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userabuser

04:41

@ungestaltbar 6th...

Sisir

05:34

userabuser

Sisir

So, basically view never connects to controllers or vice-versa?

userabuser

right

You can also have view-models between your model and view layers too

depends on the complexity of your app...

Sisir

this is very helpful

userabuser

@Sisir Try playing around with the Laravel framework as a standalone and get some experience there... you will learn a lot quickly.

Sisir

05:40

I was thinking to work with raw PHP only. Long time ago I was learning PHP then one day I start playing with WP. Now here we are..

userabuser

WP will fuck your mind up as a developer... it's like saying jQuery is a language. No its not.

toscho

05:53

@Sisir The View can update the Controller with a new status, but it doesn’t get data from it.

userabuser

@toscho not according some I've argued with... apparently it can - L O L.

toscho

What the sitepoint article doesn’t mention: one controller can handle multiple views. It has to knwo when to call which view, and that information must come from the views

userabuser

the request/route.

toscho

well, no, I mean something different.

Hard to explain in a chat window :)

userabuser

explain your example so we don't confuse the two concepts

toscho

06:02

One view can draw just the settings page frame: <form action …>, nonce, submit button. It doesn’t show the actual form field content, but it calls $this->controller->update( 'content' ); instead, and the controller calls the the next view(s) to create the form input fields.

userabuser

yeah

ok now i get you

toscho

You have to separate the form input view classes from the settings page view class, because both should be reusable.

userabuser

a little more work but if your app calls for it and is complex worth it in long run

toscho

For a more complex app, you don’t implement the update() in the controller; you use a mediator instead and let the controller register the view method to certain events.

like add_action(), but in OOP.

Sisir

you both lost me, so, I will stick with basics for now..

Power interruption all morning :/ sometime I really have urge to get out of this country!

userabuser

06:17

or surge to get out...

why dont you leave? family? wife? other?

toscho

add_action( 'wp_head', 'disable_things', 20 );

toscho

06:31

I’m having a conversation with a Chinese company. They write in English, but they add an automated German translation to each mail. The result is a mix of weird, overly devote or unfinished sentences. So much fun.

userabuser

So they may as well have been writing in Chinese.

Rarst

07:09

MVC on saturday morning? you people are unreal... :)

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userabuser

08:56

I MVC when I wake up and MVC just before I go bed, you know like you're supposed to brush your teeth.

Rarst

you must be an expert on it then. write a blog post about that everyone will disagree with.

userabuser

That's exactly what I want. To write something that no one will ever really agree upon. I have enough architectural debates with my current boss as it is... :)

Rarst

spice of life

or toxic sludge of life

userabuser

haha yeah latter sometimes

ungestaltbar

everyone agrees with jquery, and there are objects too.

Rarst

09:04

on current project I can architecture whatever I want, so it's all my fault too :)

userabuser

@ungestaltbar meta-objects :)

@Rarst I bet you argue with yourself.

Rarst

there was an interface tab in the initial spec, which called for Design_Tab class. now there are two tabs in interface, controlled by Design_Tab class.

ungestaltbar

sleepless Rarst, lost in endless discussion with himself

userabuser

Do you Interface?

Rarst

well, as long as it's not exploding mess detector...

no, no interfaces in it yet. I don't know them enough to be adding them in 1.x really

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Stack Exchange

10:35

SE network updates: Comment threads show a choice between revealing all comments and directly adding a comment. The l…

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Stephen Harris

12:22

Q: To whom do emails get sent via the Wordpress comments form?

I am working on a Wordpress 3.9.1 site, specifically the comments form. I have a copy of the site on my server and I want to test the form in the following three ways: Adding a new comment Replying to a comment Replying to a reply of a comment To do so, I want to be careful not to send man...