The Loop

bungeshea

00:39

I've just been creating git commits using -amend with one dash, so now I have a whole lot of commits called 'mend'. /facepalm

4

Sisir

06:54

What tool you use for monitoring site performance (on a dedicated server)?

Rarst

07:27

broad Q :) which performance?

toscho

F5

Rarst

> Added WP_Field_Base::TRANSFORMS() to support transforming field $args...

Metadata thing is going to be fun :D

userabuser

07:46

@Rarst is that coming anytime soon?

Rarst

no idea. I reason they need to finish it, then make a case for including into core

metadata-ui-api / base / class-field-base.php

Sisir

@Rarst ah yes, like query time, server uses etc.. Not browser side performace..

Rarst

Munin, NewRelic

Sisir

08:19

Looks like FF v29.0.1 doesn't support switching tabsOnTop :/

Lexi R

@Sisir Yeah, while introducing "the Most Customizable Firefox Ever" they removed all the customization options for the ui :/

userabuser

09:06

@Sisir try TabKit 2 instead, vertical tabs, most useful addon, ever.

Tom J Nowell

10:09

@lkraav you've been spotted, run!!

lkraav

10:39

i no understand ja?

Tom J Nowell

it was noticed you popup a lot on notification feeds for cftp stuff

> "This Estonian chap seems interested in our stuff. I keep seeing him crop up. Stack Overflower, so perhaps Tom knows him? leho.kraav.com/";

lkraav

:)

that's me. and i already made a preliminary run basically to the edge of the world

google.com/maps/place/Fr%C3%B8ya/@33.3794289,31.0030283,3z/…

well what can i say, your stuff is well made. i don't have time for crappy things anymore.

Rarst

11:25

the amount of translation crap WP does on boot still drives me nuts :(

kaiser

> The amount of [insert topic in here] crap WP does on [insert part here] drives me [insert swear words in here].

Rarst

yes, but this one I can't figure out how to carve out

__() 617 calls, 10% of wall time... translating english to english

kaiser

too many places to carve out - I've given up on core replacements

@Rarst let's just lol and done

Rarst

actually not many places left in properly hacked up stack.

registering defaults is bad because of this :\

kaiser

yeah? got a list of things?

or are you just talking about "performance"?

Rarst

11:39

core boot performance

kaiser

you measured it with XCacheGrind?

(I suppose)

Rarst

I have 2-click xhprof profiling :)

I suppose I should get rid of second click, it's too much workflow... :)

kaiser

he

Hm. On one site, there's %post_type_name% in the permalink of some posts. Can't find that in any plugin... updating that problematic posts does not help. Any idea where to search that?

Rarst

normal posts or CPTs? check registrations, dump rewrite

kaiser

custom post type

checked registration already.

oh. got @toscho rewrite plugin installed... maybe that's the culprit

nope, doesn't seem to be the problem (or it hides it too good)

Rarst

11:55

wait, isn't that default? otherwise it would be clashing with normal posts

kaiser

Im my case it's a post type called knowledge_base. The URL prefix is kb. So (most) posts in the archive point to example.com/kb/post-slug-foo. But some point to example.com/kb/%knowledge_base%, so something isn't parsing. I just dunno where to start searching. :/

Rarst

do you mean latter literally ? they point to link with rewrite tag percent signs and everything?

kaiser

literally -> yes

Rarst

weird

dump rewrite

kaiser

exactly

They got a custom taxonomy attached. When I open a CT term archive, the links display fine.

When I open them in admin, they display fine and have the right slug. When I hit "View" I get to the right page.

When I change the slug, they still work fine, but also still have the %rewrite_tag% attached.

> Only one thing is impossible for God: To find any sense in any rewrite concept in WordPress.
> - Mark Twain

Rarst

12:04

concept isn't the issue, implementation is :)

kaiser

well, concept is a bit of an issue as well. the concept is to hide rewrites in the middle of everything vs. having URLs as common entry point for module controllers :P

Rarst

where had you seen module controllers in WP? :)

kaiser

plugins

in here

wait

I'm going to change our rooms name to Illuminati Lounge 187

The enlightened

...

damnit ... Only chance to get rid of that mess easily is to copy/paste contents from not working posts to working posts.

How US American churches try to get their sheep back in http://m.kurier.at/kult/wenn-die-kirche-ihre-schaefchen-lockt/65.304.360/slideshow

Tweeted by unserkaiser on May 14, 2014 at 12:15 PM

kaiser

13:04

php --rf var_dump

Outputs info about a specific function ... I wonder if --rf is short for read (the) fucking (manual).

Rarst

Reference Function

kaiser

where humor doesn't work

:D

Rarst

or maybe Reflection

kaiser

php -l /path/to/file.php

That's one that I did not know: PHP CLI Lint

Wyck

15:16

totally forgot I bought a wootheme like 5 months ago ../goes to check cc statement

UzumakiDev

22:40

it seems my script isn't loading jquery in time. They're being enqueued in the footer, I can see them in the source but $ is undefined.

ignore the deregisted of jquery

wp_deregister_script('jquery');
wp_enqueue_script('jquery','/wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.js','','',true);
wp_register_script( 'media-match',get_template_directory_uri() . '/js/matchMedia.js','', '',true );
wp_register_script('main-js',get_template_directory_uri() . '/js/main.min.js', array('jquery','media-match'),'', true );
wp_enqueue_script('main-js');

this is giving me "undefined is not a function" at $(document)

not sure why that wouldn't work though

Tom J Nowell

have you tried using jQuery() instead of $() ?

UzumakiDev

No, that did cross my mind, but does it want me to do that?

Tom J Nowell

it's safer to do that

why are you deregistering jquery anyway?

you're not re-re-registering jquery are you

UzumakiDev

I threw it in trying to troubleshoot, i see the sillyness of what im doing :p

@TomJNowell also, that way seems to be the only way i can get jquery to load in the footer

Tom J Nowell

22:58

@UzumakiDev why do you need it in the footer? the header seems fine

you're micro-optimising

stop that

UzumakiDev

google page speed

Tom J Nowell

go make things actually work before you optimise

UzumakiDev

things do work, well they did before I started moving things into the footer.

Tom J Nowell

are you doing it to make it faster, or to please a metric in google pagespeed?

UzumakiDev

purely for metric page speed because I'm doing work for an SEO guy :)

Stephen Harris

23:01

@UzumakiDev most likely the plug-in/theme will be loading jQuery as a dependency of other scripts (loaded in the header). If so, you ain't going to get it in the footer unless you move them also. Personally, I wouldn't bother...

Tom J Nowell

agreed compatability issues abound

the client would probably be better served having a sane accessible markup hierarchy and heading hierarchy followed by an extensive interaction with a copywriter to rewrite all the stuff

UzumakiDev

probably yes. it's not any js im using as a dependency, it must be a plugin.

why are we told to load all of our scripts in the footer yet most of the time I try and do it the wordpress way it never works.

it's one of those things I always have trouble with.

ah fixed it lol forgot to put the $ in jQuery(document).ready(function($)

cheers @TomJNowell and @StephenHarris

I also stopped de-registering jquery :)

toscho

@UzumakiDev and when you register scripts, pass the correct types, not a bunch of empty strings.

UzumakiDev

@toscho you mean instead of ' ' put an actual value in there like '1.0'?

toscho

function wp_enqueue_script( $handle, $src = false, $deps = array(), $ver = false, $in_footer = false )

the first two are strings, the rest is not

UzumakiDev

23:16

ahh got ya

so instead of '' i should put false when it wants a boolean value?

toscho

$ver is terrbly designed, it accepts any scalar

yes, exactly. easier to read, and more likely to be forward-compatible

UzumakiDev

Got ya. I do love this place :)

kaiser

Worry about 30+ meta key values when you have 100,000+ posts, not when you only have 100+ posts. At only 3000+ meta records, MySQL is blisteringly fast. IOW, don't worry about it. If you do get to 100,000+ records, move to a better server and start leveraging intelligent caching. — MikeSchinkel yesterday

Mike... yesterday... wat?

toscho

also note, you should call wp_enqueue_script without an URL, see wordpress.stackexchange.com/a/143164/73

UzumakiDev

are you referring to when you say, in the link, that you shouldn't use so many parameters with wp_enqueu_script, such as using a url and that you should just call wp_enqueue with it's handle wp_enqueue_script('stuff') and keep all the parameters in wp_register?

toscho

23:25

yes

UzumakiDev

got ya :) thanks for the tip, also I noticed that I should load wp_register earlier than wp_enqueue

toscho

use wp_loaded

UzumakiDev

yup, I see. Why do we do that?

toscho

23:47

explained in the answer I linked earlier

Transcript for