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1:22 PM
Just realized that on ~/wp-admin/plugin-install.php, there's a "favorites plugin installer", which queries all your favorites on wp dot org. 8|
I wonder how this connects my login to the dot org login.
 
email
 
NSA API
 
wait, doesn't it actually ask for username first?
 
oh. yes.
 
2:10 PM
@GhostToast your sock puppet is too obvious.
 
> hackday — A competition where the entry fee is sleep deprivation and the prize is vendor lock in.
hehe
 
 
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4:36 PM
 
three years on it and nothing found? I kinda doubt that. three years is a lot of time to tear computer apart.
 
5:10 PM
I tried to find the original source of that research (in other words: not a journalist written article about that), but I couldn't find anything aside from the Twitter account. It seems real, but either that guy is really, really lazy and slow or that thing is far from the future. What makes me wonder is why no one else has seen and reported this so far.
 
they could have taken the BIOS off of the board and read the memory bit by bit, compared it to a new motherboard and done a diff
 
nothing sci fi about bios viruses or even data over sound, however all that three years on it and nothing sounds meh
 
as for containment, thats easy, don't use removable media
 
yep, that. if it's in hardware it can be knocked out and captured
heck, you can freeze and read RAM offline
 
and you can test and record the 'airgap' sound communications with recorders and cutting out the speakers
 
5:13 PM
this one they did
 
hmmm but if you were to do malware, why use IP6
 
plugged out microphone and speaker and communications stopped
plus: three years ago + IP6 = ...?
 
also when receiving out of the air why bother with moving it into detectable network layer at all? just read it out of sound stream
overall reads like scary story with a lot of "bit it could be real"
which is not incorrect
 
Aaaaand data via audio on GitHub as Python project.
 
heck, there is nothing complicated in data via audio :) see dial up modem :)
there were perverted dial up modems which actually hooked to microphone and speaker of the phone rather than phone line
 
5:25 PM
I wonder if one could start using that to hack mobile devices like intercepting and re-routing data.
I mean when on a web application.
 
lost me... hack how? there needs to be something listening for this to work
 
anu
@Rarst my first computer was a TRS-80, saved programs onto cassette tape as audio signals
 
oh, I remember those :) or something like
 
anu
loading was very tricky, had to keep watch on VU meter and keep volume within range
fun :)
 
@Rarst "hack" is much too much for what I was thinking about: Let two computers communicate via audio when on a webapp
 
5:30 PM
there should be something for native audio in recent stuff, right? or flash it is
 
5:56 PM
Installation with exactly one plugin (registers post type) and default Twenty11 theme goes blank in admin when "edit"-link is clicked. WTF?. WP_DEBUG and PHP lvl error log to full... any ideas how to trouble shoot that one?
 
write better code
 
disable the plugin?
 
Well, it's my own :)
 
of course
hence the blank page
 
we assumed so
 
5:59 PM
ask loopchat for ideas. get trolled as answer. that's how it works.
 
toscho is trolling, mine was absolutely serious :)
is it the plugin that blanks it?.. first step is first
 
yeah, of course it is that plugin. as I said: there's only one plugin (disabled all others, switched to TwentyEleven).
 
It is unclear what you’re asking, because your question is overly broad. And if you need serious advice, it is off topic here too.
 
badBIOS is hard to beleive (audio hacks)
 
@kaiser are there redirects? is there any output in page?
 
6:12 PM
nope. nothing. no redirects.
 
reproducible on different install? flushed cache / restarted web server?
 
not restarted server (not local), but flushed cache. WP and PHP error is on max. Can still echo stuff from wp-config.php file.
but no error output given. just a blank page. never seen a thing like that before. logs are all empty as well
damnit...
found the problem.
if ( ! class_exists( 'RW_Meta_Box' ) ) return;
"Deactived" file killed it
Thanks for holding my hand @Rarst
 
this is a good read groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/php-fig/ogp03OHbVJ0 wordpress's leverage (asking fig to force hosts to upgrade php)
 
6:31 PM
I had perfect clairvoyant vision of how that thread will go as soon I started on it
I wonder if there is even one teeny tiny [even private] precedent of core team doing something explicitly against what Matt said
 
6:56 PM
Matts blogpost seems horrendously shortsighted and out of touch
hosts already have the incentive of fitting more customers on shared hosting instead of buying new equipment from gains in speed/memory
 
for Matt PHP seems to have always been annoying historical dependency that is somehow tough to get rid of just by willing it
 
7:18 PM
his attitude seems irrational, other people oppose the whole upgrade PHP boat without sounding like they're uninformed children throwing toys out of the pram
 
it's from 2007 though, things have changed considerably in 6 years
 
he is not really opposing, just considers it radically unimportant and uninteresting
@Wyck that's why we are still on PHP 5.2, right
not to mention good chunks of core code are still pretty much PHP4
 
I tried to find Nacin's php|tek talk but I couldn't
 
8:17 PM
One thing all the people (like Matt) completely forget when they want to "JavaScript all the things" is, that there's ECMA Script, JavaScript and a whole shit load of browser specific stuff that's much harder to work around than all the CSS trouble we constantly have. All those people screaming for more *Script seem to forget what's so cool about PHP: It's server side and it's easy to get a common base to work off.
 
8:37 PM
it's not Matt who is doing the coding nowadays :)
 
Even if you look at the bigger picture, the reason for Ghost not rocketing away exactly is that problem. :)
 
8:59 PM
ya I agree, how many people actually know the backbone parts in WP really well, it's not comparable to the PHP bits
 
Ghost rocketing away is because it's node
 
next to none. still zilch Backbone docs (for WP)
 
as fashionable as it is, you cant grab a cheap shared host and do a quick install
 
I heard node was great at making todo lists..
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