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Sisir

07:58

morning all

Aahan Krish

09:48

Ah! Finally moved personal blog from WordPress (self-hosted) to Google Blogger

I haz peace!

Sisir

@AahanKrish you moved from wordpress?

Aahan Krish

@Sisir Just my personal notes blog. I just want to be able to write notes... don't want the extra maintenance.

I already manage two WordPress blogs :(

dont' want another

Besides Blogger has a kewl new template... Dynamic Views aahan.me

Sisir

i should have a personal blog too

where i can share my craziness :)

Aahan Krish

yeah :D

Sisir

.me domains are too costly :-/

sisir.com is already taken..

Aahan Krish

09:53

@Sisir Yeah... but I got my name!

Tom J Nowell

@AahanKrish weird, not a fan of the vertical tab sidebar

Aahan Krish

@TomJNowell You have two more options! (actually there are 7 in total, I hid the others)

@TomJNowell try this-- aahan.me/?view=classic

infinite loading, lazy loading... all kinds of craziness jam-packed!

Sisir

sisir.me is available but $20/yr is crazy

i have this site where i add things i tends forget quite often quickhow.net :)

Aahan Krish

@Sisir is that yours?

Rarst

@AahanKrish you don't admit such things in public :D

Sisir

10:02

@AahanKrish yea..

Aahan Krish

@Rarst :D

@Sisir As for me, I post things on my personal blog, and if stuff is too complex (for me), I create a video and post it to Youtube

youtube.com/user/TutHorror

Sisir

i wish my spoken english is good..

Aahan Krish

@Sisir I never spoke in my videos... not until now at least

But I plan to... yeah, my speaking skills are kinda weird

:P

Sisir

i am sure mine will scare you away.. :P

Aahan Krish

@Rarst do you have a public video where I can hear you speak? :)

Rarst

10:06

@AahanKrish nope, why?

Aahan Krish

@Rarst Just asking :)

@Rarst I get tensed when I start making a video in which I plan to speak

the end result...it's scrapped

@Sisir by the way, You can actually change your YouTube channel to work a little bit like wordpress -- tagging and stuff. Look at mine

XHTML & CSS: youtube.com/user/TutHorror/videos?query=%28X%29HTML%20%26%20CSS

Sisir

@AahanKrish true.. same here. Most of the time i loose words to tell which never happens when writing.. lack of practice i guess

Aahan Krish

that's right... lack of practise

Sisir

so, we need a chatroom where we can speak :)

Aahan Krish

hehe!

Sisir

10:12

finally i signed up for G+

Aahan Krish

@Sisir why anyway? :P

Sisir

just catching up with google..

Aahan Krish

$1

@Sisir is the comment here by TomJNowell ??

Sisir

hey guys, what other domain extension you recommend if not .me

Aahan Krish

@Sisir .im is also good IMO

and it's like $13.xx

name.com/pricing

Sisir

10:16

@AahanKrish not sure.. i think it was some other tom lost in the wild and then got dumped on my site..

Aahan Krish

hmm...

Which domain registrar offers the max. number of TLDs? Google failed me

Rarst

clientsfromhell.net/post/23872298884/…

ROFL

Brady

@userabuser my i7-2600k got bid up to £100 after a few hours. So turning down the £100 offer from the other guy hasn't been a mistake. still 5 days left on the auction

@kaiser you around?

Rarst

@Brady I missed that day, why are you selling CPU now?..

Tom J Nowell

@AahanKrish no, no it isn't

Brady

10:22

@Rarst because I've bought a CPU that supports Intel Vt-d so I can do some nice virtualization stuff

Thats if I ever get a working Dom0 system up and running. It's proving difficult.

Sisir

@Rarst I know you have nothing going on in your life - see this as an opportunity to finally do something useful LoL!! :D

Rarst

@Brady is that like meaningful difference for home computer?

Brady

@Rarst i7-2600k is a beast for speed, and great for gaming (the one Im selling) but problem is that it doesnt support vt-d

Rarst

@Brady I got that part. I am asking what so fantastic you need on non-data-center-scale that vt-d makes difference?

Brady

@Rarst I'm combining my NAS with my gaming rig

vt-d allows hardware to be dedicated to a DomU (guest OS)

Rarst

10:26

okay... I acknowledge inclinations to want strange things :)

Brady

so I run Dom0 and pass through GPU to gaming rig and pass through raid card to NAS

Even cooler stuff you can do is install two GPU's and run to separate gaming rigs in one box.

But the end game is to get a stable virtual environment up and running so I can spawn other OS's to mess around with.

Rarst

damn... the problem with eliminating airflow noise (pain), hard drive noise (huge pain)... that what is left is electrical noise (insane pain)

Brady

@Rarst electrical noise... where from?

Rarst

@Brady PSUs tends to produce plenty, rarely motherboards

Brady

@Rarst You need a better PSU then

I've never had a PSU make noise

only fan noise

Rarst

10:31

@Brady any PSU produces some electrical noise usually. you just don't hear it because all other stuff (even as quiet as hard drive) masks it. but if PSU is only thing that makes sound it gets noticeable

for the record I have crazy expensive fanless seasonic for PSU

Brady

I dont notice any sound from my rig atm. Got a sound proof case with PWM fans running at 400-600rpm

Rarst

@Brady well if it's sound proof case how do you expect to hear anything outside of it? :)

Brady

@Rarst well its not 100% sound proof

its got sound proofing material on the inside

but ambient noise from surroundings means you cannot hear anything from the case

Rarst

anyway it happens... doesn't help that I hear crap in frequencies people tend to miss... once PSU had started to whine like crazy (for me), dragged it to work, electrical people said it doesn't make a sound... then tested it and it was half-dead with unstable output

Tom J Nowell

@Rarst my home monitor has a nightmarish buzz, I had to unplug it of a night when it was in the same room as me

Rarst

10:36

fortunately hearing supposed to get worse with age :)

Tom J Nowell

@Rarst how many eons old are you?

Rarst

@TomJNowell oh, yeah displays can do that also... I was lucky so far to not land one of such. really anything with powerful enough power brick is inclined to make electrical noise

Sisir

@TomJNowell how (the hell) a display make noise? They don't have rotating parts (fans)..

Rarst

@TomJNowell there is cool feature on my new UPS - it has couple of outlets that it can de-power when you turn off computer

Mains hum

Mains hum, electric hum, or power line hum is an audible oscillation of alternating current at the frequency of the mains electricity, which is usually 50 Hz or 60 Hz, depending on the local power line frequency. The sound often has heavy harmonic content. Causes of electric hum Electric hum around transformers is caused by stray magnetic fields causing the enclosure and accessories to vibrate. Magnetostriction is a second source of vibration, where the core iron changes shape minutely when exposed to magnetic fields. The intensity of the fields, and thus the "hum" inten...

@Sisir physics :) there are no purposely moving parts, but electricity passing through bunch of stuff is also thermal and magnetic events

Sisir

@Rarst i see.. fortunate for me i never heard any hum noise on my pc other then fan rotating parts.. I always have a big fan on ceiling which make some sound..

Rarst

10:43

the pain with PSU is that it can show with age and swapping PSUs in search of quietest one would get crazy expensive very fast...

Tom J Nowell

@Sisir cheap chairs and window frames on trains don't have moving parts but they still buzz and whine like made when the carriages start moving

Rarst

"it makes noise you probably can't hear" is not a very valid complaint :)

and the problem with sound proofing that it impedes airflow... and when you can't get enough passive airflow you need to go back to active... silent computing is pain :)

I pity people who need to build such systems for professional purposes

Brady

@Rarst just dont use such high powered computer equipment and then passive computing is very easy

@Rarst get a Raspberry Pi and turn that into your dev rig. All you need is a programming IDE ;)

Rarst

@Brady yeah, much easier that way... also proportionally less performant and needs to be changed more often

@Brady I could just turn off computer and code on my tablet :)

Brady

@Rarst even better, turn off your PC and go outside and play ;)

Rarst

10:49

@Brady outside? play?

Tom J Nowell

@Rarst he means minecraft

Rarst

@TomJNowell I don't do minecraft...

Sisir

@Rarst i see your point.. but i only heard them on high power instruments (like transformer) and never on electronic devices though..

Tom J Nowell

@Sisir cheap mobile chargers do it too

my electric trimmer does it when its charging, quite loudly too

Brady

@TomJNowell yup my charger makes a very high pitch squeal when not charging my phone or once the battery is fully charged

very annoying

Sisir

10:59

i seems to be lucky.. :) most of my things are cheap and yet i never experienced those problems :) my CRT 21" TV does a little noise but its very mild and expected..

Tom J Nowell

@Sisir or your hearing is rubbish

Sisir

@TomJNowell or humanly.. my ears don't care about ultra sound..

Tom J Nowell

@Sisir you just have bad hearing, or you're showing your age

Sisir

@TomJNowell perhaps my brain filtering them out

Brady

11:29

@TomJNowell remember at school kids would put that high pitch sound as their ringtone so only they could hear it ring in class and the old teachers couldnt :)

but as for noises I can sleep with computer fan noise fine. Its high pitch noises that irritate me.

If a weird noise is keeping me up I just use an app on my phone that plays a number of sounds to drown it out

gowri

12:16

Hi to all

i written simple wordpressplugin

i would like to host it

i have doubt in read me file change log

this is my first release. so what should i add in that

Rarst

@gowri change log is not required. and by definition it's what had changed between versions :) just look at examples in repo, I do something like this wordpress.org/extend/plugins/codex-generator/changelog

gowri

Thanks . i have send request to my plugin. how will i notify about svn details

by mail or what

Rarst

yeah, I think you get email when approved. login details same as WP account and in repo created with generated slug

gowri

Thank so much for the clarification

userabuser

12:42

@Brady Sweet, auction still going then or finito?

Brady

@userabuser 4 1/2 days left

was at £100 when I last looked

ebay.co.uk/itm/…

£104 now

userabuser

in good shape man

Aahan Krish

@Brady how do you send the item?

Brady

@AahanKrish huh?

Aahan Krish

@Brady By what means do you send it to the buyer?

Brady

12:45

@AahanKrish by post...

Aahan Krish

Ah... okay. And how much do you lose there? ($x)

nvm I see it

Brady

13:45

anyone know if you can serve google maps v3 api javascript file locally rather than: maps.googleapis.com/maps/api/js?sensor=true

headsethotties.com check out these headset hotties

Aahan Krish

lol, there's a site for that as well!

Rarst

@Brady I think google formally forbids hosting their JS elsewhere

Brady

@Rarst bah I need to use google maps in an app

I just didnt want to pull the framework on app load

I rather have the framework local

and then the tiles load from google

Because if no network connection then no google map framework to use...

Rarst

digwp.com/2012/05/post-navigation-author-category started week "nice" :) it's monday, what's horrible today?

userabuser

web app or mobile app? can't you maybe pre-load it during start up... in the event you have some kind of start up sequence before app loads fully... (thinkin aloud)

Brady

13:59

@userabuser mobile app

at the moment its loaded at the top of the document and holds the page from rendering untill the framework is loaded. Makes my app take ages to load over 3G

@Rarst That's David Powell on my shit list ;)

userabuser

hrmm... well look google may "forbid" it, as Rarst suggested, but that still wouldn't stop me from loading it locally if it were causing that much drag on my app. Unless the framework baulks if not called directly from their server I'd personally press on and do it.

Rarst

@Brady digwp folks have nice rep, but sometimes they just do things that are waaaat?

Brady

@Rarst Yeah I know. Guess post though...

userabuser

@Rarst I'm too tired to figure out whats up with that post - whats the gist?

Brady

@userabuser edits core

bad move!

userabuser

14:03

yep nevermind.. just got it

lolllll

saw in comments

why did they allow such a post? beats me

Brady

support.google.com/googleanalytics/bin/…

you can host ga.js locally

although not recommended

so need to find the same for maps

Rarst

I think it's even more dangerous when folks with cred post crap than random ones ... :( I think Nacin went pale on Twitter over this :)

userabuser

agree, this spreads bad praktice

Rarst

bad practice spreads just fine on its own... THIS gives it false cred

userabuser

if editing core were acceptable then fk having an API, may as well make it a free-for-all hack-a-day festival...

Brady

14:07

yey @userabuser has joined the show us your face club!

userabuser

@Brady limited time special only

Brady

@userabuser better than that grey box to make it look invisible in chat

userabuser

mmm I was kind of partial to that invisible box...

showing your face is so cliche

Brady

@userabuser then do what @TomJNowell does then. Be cool and just show half of your face

Tom J Nowell

@Brady worked well for me so far

userabuser

14:11

I thought about taking it a step further, showing half my face - but up side down.

Tom J Nowell

<-- see!

userabuser

@TomJNowell no doubt its your better half anyway

Tom J Nowell

@userabuser I didn't realise you had a corporeal existence

userabuser

technically I don't, I've just taken over this entity temporarily.. Its incarnation thing.

toscho

15:45

►

Brady

@toscho JENGA!!!!

Could see it from a mile off when he was yanking on that mic cable.

toscho

Yeah, it had the smell of inevitability from the start.

Sisir

16:55

@userabuser: finally! :)

userabuser

@Sisir Hoorah!

Brady

17:28

cry :'(

people have had luck pushing the i72600k to 5.8GHz stable...

@userabuser have a look at this: ebay.co.uk/itm/Intel-Core-i7-2600K-3-4-GHz-Quad-Core-/…

the voltage on that thing is scary...

userabuser

18:13

thats crazy man... burn that sucker out quick

Jared

18:23

I have a question about scribu's framework if someone can help. Where does he define $GLOBALS['_scb_data'];?

Oh jeez nevermind :)

Jared

18:45

Another thing though, what's the significance of this? do_action( 'scb_activation_' . $plugin );

toscho

@Jared That's there to make the code look smart. I do this all the time.

Jared

Ah okay, just allows them to hook into it?

If needed

toscho

yep

Sisir

21:14

@brady looking at your WP updates plugin. What is the scope for a plugin to initiate/trigger the update automatically?

meaning can/should it be done?

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