@Simply :) spaceengineersgame.com

O.O

@Simply how would you rate my proof in the specific case of $\int_{T}f(z)=0$

@Zophikel It's incomplete, isn't it?

@Simply I added a remark putting the Bounds on $T$

therefore making the proof correct in the specific case :(

@Simply also when I copied the question it didn't include any constraits on $T$ :(

@Zophikel But I don't think you ever finished the proof?

@Simply how come I thought adding the remark would be enough, also I did omit some computations

Oh, okay, then I suppose you are done then

@Simply also I see another mistake I didn't see at first $T$ is supposed to be a triangle but a curve would be better for visualization purposes

@Simply how would you rate my attack on the question

I'll give 2/5

@Simply :(

why a two if I may ask

Idk

@Simply at least offer some feedback man was it the flow of writing not fully addressing the question what ?

oh

@Simply so a 2/5 is needs improvement

That's how I feel

@Simply what could I improve on

I feel like your vision is too narrow

@Simply elaborate plz

I feel like when you tackle the problem, you... tackle it

but you don't think around it

and you don't try to understand the big picture

@Simply usually I came up with an idea on why somethings true and then drill down the details

^ But that only happens when I fully understanding something

@Zophikel When you started the problem on Cauchy-Riemann + Green's theorem, what did you try outside of what you had on your math.SE post

@Simply nothing else :( usually I use the hints as steeping points

@Simply your saying I should have my "eyes" on a problem

I'm saying that perhaps you should take a moment and go back to older problems and see if you can solve them in ways you hadn't solved them before

ahh ok @Simply

@Simply that's what you be expanding your vision

It's one of the reasons I love m.se. I get to read what other people try to solve problems I already know how to solve, but in different ways.

@Simply usually that way I do this is search for alternate proofs and work through them

But @Simply but usually understanding the "Big Picture" comes with breaking a concept down

I don't think breaking a concept down can be done by tackling a problem with only one line of vision

And its okay if you fail to see the end of the road. Tackling the problem multiple ways often gives insight

@Zophikel Did you know that I don't always know how I'll solve the problem when I see one on the main site?

@Simply no I didn't know that I've picked up new tehcniques from the main site

@Simply and when the books I use give hints sometimes I try to crave out my own appoarch

When I have an unusual problem I'm faced with, I take a moment to absorb the question

Then I just start typing

And I kinda let everything go between intuition and a sort of "in the moment" kind of thing

But I keep my eyes open

And often the answers I post on m.se aren't my first thoughts, or even my second

@Simply when i'm faced with something unusual I usually break down the question inutution and build up any thoughts rigously

or play with it and see what breaks

also I have backup plans for when things don't play nice

                     ^ lol

Mmm... but my point is that half the goal is figuring out how to figure out

yeah

@Simply for me it's different every time

sometimes you just know what to do other times not so much

and that's a game you get good at by looking at problems and solving them in multiple ways

@Simply yeah

I've gotten good at having a backup plan now I need to learn how to use my tools In more creative way s

@Zophikel Well even when you think you know what you are doing, don't let it get to you

There is plenty to learn from each problem, and I don't think you've spent enough time going over problems after you've finished them

@Simply yeah that is true.

@Simply usually I reflect on the problem

@Simply what do you mean by don't let it get to me

@Zophikel Have you answered any questions on m.se?

@Simply no :(

I should but I haven't

@Zophikel Don't believe you understand a problem just because you've solved it. Most problems hold more to them than one solution reveals

@Simply interesting, also some problems lead to bigger questions

Well, on the occasion, did you know I'll post multiple answers to the same question?

@Simply yeah

oh, well, I post multiple answers to the same questions because I often look for ways to solve problems I've already solved

@Simply so your trying to extend your range

Absolutely, and I believe you should too

@Simply what i'm trying to do is coming up with new ideas to solve problems

@Simply hmmmm I should extend my range a little bit more maybe that's what's been missing from my development

@Simply terrytao.wordpress.com/career-advice/…

lol, yeah

@Simply usually for me to understand a problem better is to make mistakes

@Simply you should note that I don't really have a "Style" yet

:/

@Simply i'm still trying to mathematically find my style I mean I've kinda figured it out

I start of by making observations and deducing moves from those "observations" and eventually keep making observations until the problem is solved

       ^ But the observations made can differ depending on the point of view you take

Well, that's good

@Zophikel Then take a broader view

@Simply that will require more time and knowledge

@Simply anything else or is that the only thing

@Zophikel What do you think makes me a seemingly good mathematician?

@Simply hmmm... I'd say it's your current understanding

could you be more specific?

@Simply your intuition with $\mathbb{C}$

@Simply how you take apart and understand things

I don't think its my intuition with $\mathbb C$

@Zophikel I do think I take things apart well though

@Simply i'm not sure

@Zophikel What do you think it takes to take problems apart well?

@Simply it requires a very deep understanding of the problem and concept realted to the problem

@Zophikel Then what allows me to tackle problems on m.se that I've never seen before?

@Simply understanding

But I don't always understand the problems well when I first look at them

@Simply hmmmm..... For me when I see a problem I haven't done before I look through lots of examples to gain as much eyesight into the probelm

I'm not sure what you do

Well I'd say I gain understanding of the problem by trying it myself, even if I can't solve it

In fact, I don't finish lots of the answers that I start

@Simply interesting I didn't know that

@Simply but is it a bad idea to look at examples

@Simply so you try to make as much progress as possible that what I try to do

also I haven't had a chance to answer on MSE because of the time it can take

@Zophikel of course its not bad to look at examples. My equivalent is looking at lots of answers on m.se

@Zophikel perfectly reasonable

@Simply but I do try to border my range it's just that making observations takes a lot of time

I have to rip apart the concept behind the problem look at defintions to make sure i'm on the right track

All I'm saying is you get a lot out of trying a problem, even if you don't solve it, or if you've already solved. Just try the problem again a few more times

@Zophikel Maybe you should try solving a problem without looking at the definitions

Be gone, nearly closed question, be gone! @SimplyBeautifulArt math.stackexchange.com/questions/2308239/…

@Simply yeah

o/ @amWhy

They say blind men see more than what we can see with our eyes in some ways

o/ @Zophikel

@Simply I have tried problems without looking at definitions I make the right plays I just can't justify them

@amWhy :P

@Simply 8P Fly-swatter question math.stackexchange.com/questions/2304842/…

@Zophikel Then try justifying something other than the definitions you're given. Don't try solving the problem in the way your first instinct guides you, find a new path.

ahh ok @Simply

@amWhy D: I already voted lol

@Simply but I've gotten better at solving problems, but I sometimes find it hard to fight my intuition

@SimplyBeautifulArt :<)

@Simply usually when I broke down a problem to intuition it becomes easier to find a solution

@Simply thanks for the advice I think this was the one thing missing form my mathematical development

:<)

Community advisory (@SimplyBeautifulArt, or any user with close-vote privileges on MSE - I see you @Mithrandir ) math.stackexchange.com/questions/2318883/… ... the suspense is getting beyond bearable, so, "raise arms against a sea of troubles!" (per Hamlet) and close.

:D

@SimplyBeautifulArt Glad you back!

o/

lurking around

lol

Oh no! I've been discovered!

@shredalert :p

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@amWhy :O One moment

I see messages moved to the rubbish bin

@shredalert I didn't think anyone was too keen on my plea for a star or two of the comment I made in Constructive Feedback chat, (it is a self-reminder comment), no biggy.

Actually, thanks to @SimplyBeautifulArt I learned about "pinning" a comment. I feel so silly now!!

o/

@shredalert So... I never heard about the outcome of your exam on Friday.... or at least how you experienced taking it and how you think you did!? Hmmm Maybe I should scroll back to see any posts you made about it post-exam.

@amWhy 95% at least.

More concerned about these modal logic exercises lol

I keep noticing MSE is much like reddit how do questions with enough work get downvoted

I had a little discussion in the logic chatroom about it earlier today @amWhy. :)

@shredalert Awesome. Yeah, modal logic kind of turns everything one's learned about classical logic tipped askew!

I'm embracing the madness.

Not entirely turned upside down, hence "tipped over, askew"... Embrace the madness indeed!

@shredalert i'm really enjoying the theory of Harmonic Functions

@SimplyBeautifulArt One more plea for the (MSE) day: One more delete vote needed here

:P

@SimplyBeautifulArt You are my hero, today, bro!

:)

@Zophikel all you analysts

@shredalert hmmm i'm not sure what I am yet

You are possibly an analyst

@shredalert interesting

if i'm a good analyst then why do I keep getting downvoted on MSE

:P

@shredalert how can you tell