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122. Monkeys, 4537 bytes #16 "?63(o?23!*# #@"/*"r"{\Dv;'[af2.q]PkPPX)\('#CO"14" ^; */ #/*0|7//```"` [>.>.])[-'][(x>77*;,68*,@,1',;# l1011)(22)/ \S \7aa*+42@n;iiipsddpsdoh coding=utf8␉␉␉␉(1P''53'S^'?????!?!??!??!!!!???!?!??!!?!?!!!!!?!!!!?????!????????????????????!) (qx #>␉QQxQxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx...

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A: Add a language to a polyglot

123. Mycelium, 4540 bytes #16 "?63(o?23!*# #@"/*"r"{\Dv;'[af2.q]PkPPX)\('#CO"14" ^; */ #/*0|7//```"` [>.>.])[-'][(x>77*;,68*,@,1',;# l1011)(22)/ \S \7aa*+42@n;iiipsddpsdoh coding=utf8␉␉␉␉(1P''53'S^'?????!?!??!??!!!!???!?!??!!?!?!!!!!?!!!!?????!????????????????????!) (qx #>␉xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx...

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Wheat Wizard

04:56

Ok V's mysterious character seems to be !. I'm not sure what it does yet

Ok good news! It seems to completely terminate reading. Meaning I'm going to have to remove a bunch of !s from the program! Yay!

Potato44

05:19

How many are you going to need to remove?

Wheat Wizard

enough so that I can place the code before the first one

looks like only the first ! needs to be removed

Potato44

which languages does it do work for?

Wheat Wizard

What do you mean

Potato44

well, there is probably a reason the ! is there, which langauge(s) use it?

Wheat Wizard

Oh yes

Its for hexagony

and evil seems to need it too

Oh wait no

I broke evil a different way

Its just Hexagony

And somebody deleted the hexagony formatter

Potato44

05:28

I thought it was just commented out

Wheat Wizard

yeah just means I have to run the driver again

takes a while

Oh no

Hexagony really wants that !

Yeah this is not going to be doable without a hexagony expert

Potato44

What have you got it doing so far?

Wheat Wizard

So far I've just broken hexagony. I haven't even added any code I just broke hexagony

I tried a couple of quick fixes but it seems that something more complex is going to be required to fix Hexagony without a ! on the first line.

Potato44

05:48

does any language besides hexagony use the @?

if not we can deflect it around to the bottom of the program

but then we get the same problem we had earlier on ehere we needed to keep moving hexagony around

but it should be easier now since we have the bytecount freedom to move things around now

Wheat Wizard

I had that idea. Wasn't able to get it to work

but I'm not that good at hexagony

@Potato44 Incident uses it :P but no one else.

Whats your idea here?

Potato44

@ ends the program in hexagony. If we remove it the / would reflect the hexagony onto the bottom of the program

I think anyway, haven't tested anything and I don't know all the commands in hexagony

Wheat Wizard

/ is a mirror

we just need to catch it

Chance

I noticed something is the original hexagony post.

There are 6 IPs, which start at the 6 corners. Only 1 is active at a time, and are switched by using #][

We could cut the hexagony module and paste it at the end.

And replace it in line 1 with a command to change to one of the other IPs.

Wheat Wizard

in reverse though

Chance

06:00

Maybe

Right

Wheat Wizard

the problem is that we need the byte count to be a central hexagonal number

so some padding will be needed

Potato44

not really, we can just pad with no-ops

Wheat Wizard

well it needs to be close

right now the last 4 lines of the hexagony program are empty

Chance

Dang. Then we be back to the module solution. That's kind of a bummer.

Wheat Wizard

Is it not worth it?

Its better than Cubix's module

Chance

06:04

Are we trying to get rid of the ! Or the @?

Potato44

not having the @ in the first line would be nice, so many languages use it as an exit command

Wheat Wizard

just need to remove and add padding every so often

the !

I tried using Hexagony's ; to output by char code. But the change broke more than half of the languages

Chance

Yeah, that area is sensitive.

Wheat Wizard

I thought it might be doable but ><> uses ; to exit and It swiftly became apparent it was not going to work

Potato44

but ><> only sees the end of the first line

Wheat Wizard

06:07

Huh

Potato44

plus the #

Wheat Wizard

must have been misalignment then

I'll take a look back at changing to ;

might be doable but hard

I don't mind changing Hexagony to a capsule myself. Do you guys mind? Should I wait? We are getting close to the point where we can add another Klein so I can do that instead for the time being.

Potato44

I wouldn't mind a capsule since we have the room to shuffle it around.

Which Klein?

Chance

; looks doable to me

Wheat Wizard

@Potato44 I don't know I'd have to pick one

Chance

06:12

Change 23 to 50 and ! To ; and it out puts 2

Wheat Wizard

yeah the 3 is where things get messy though

you could use a ) to increment it but that's kind of bad news. You could try to move to a new memory cell but most of those commands are pretty dangerous too.

Potato44

Is the messy thing mostly just 2D realignment?

Wheat Wizard

A good deal of it is

but there were some other langs that were failing

Potato44

@ASCII-only I know you suggested Charcoal earlier, do you want to add it yourself or leave it to one of us?

ASCII-only

Too lazy to do it myself lol sorry

Wheat Wizard

06:17

Here's the list of breaks:
https://tio.run/##rb3bcuvKkiD2vBD@g37BorQ3SfECgndKotbiVaJEkRSvoi5bGwQBEiQIQAB4XVsn2i8z3e0Je9zT7ujpGfeZ7hhHdIT9NA5HjGM6whGe1/mK8wM@f3CcWQB4kai11u5uSiQKVVlZWVlZWVlViUKPM4Z/@MMBfuiaKi8HsmrSpmCYdF@XZoIepLNL@jMnGbFwhKIQKqMPphNBMY1j6oBmaUnhpT7c0qY6FhRpJegQHaY1XR3o3IQ2h5xJCwbPaYJBq1NTm5q0Ku7PFaELE3UkBTDjRFIGAGUKuqYLJkmO0i1F5ia9PvcqIbZbmqZDskHnBfmXyS8mzauTCaf0DQCM0/lqtlDOvMqfoK9V3RAQCy8YhopxSXpREPhXgCn6mtMltZypnO@kWIyp6Wp/yiPd5lCAdKyqKMmCQfFA1Rmt2ewNYoA@oHWB61tglKjqNGahJ2OZlmhe0@iezA2DPC1LAFsMJWkBWUOvIP2ANtSJsE2AQSuC0KcNTeAlUeJJqbSwMAXFkFTFCNISP6bnkizTfUGGDBtSeD8go6fGVpRV…

ASCII-only

woah that's a lot

Wheat Wizard

python3 /opt/fish/fish.py polyglot.poly                               FAILURE   : 0
mono /opt/retina/Retina.exe polyglot.poly                             FAILURE   : 1
/opt/befunge/bin/bef polyglot.poly                                    FAILURE  : 141
/opt/befunge-98/bin/fbbi polyglot.poly                                FAILURE  : 152
python3 /opt/haystack/haystack_new.py -f polyglot.poly                FAILURE  : 120
node --harmony /opt/reng/reng.js polyglot.poly                        FAILURE  : 0

Potato44

a lot of them appear to have failed because of the closed STDERR stream because befunge 93 appears to have infinite STDERR output so TIO closes the stream

And the other half because they are misaligned 2D languages

Chance

Befunge is because misalignment too I believe.

Retina is the sticking point. U balanced ) is probably the problem.

Might need to hit 51 a different way.

Wheat Wizard

we can rebalance it by adding a new ( after the ;

Chance

06:31

That might work, tho I though I had a problem doing so.

Alternatively, we could look at moving the memory pointer.

Wheat Wizard

yeah thats also tough

Chance

This is another way to hit the magic number

50;'51;

Wheat Wizard

Oh that looks promising

Chance

Prelude might not allow this. That's a tricky one to

Work with

Gonna gang it up for now. Good luck.

Potato44

I think prelude will probably just be a game of parenthesis shuffling lower down

Wheat Wizard

06:39

I'm going to put this answer on hold for the time being. I'll look into the viabilty of Kleins tomorrow

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