Polyglot Development

12:24 AM

I didn't even expect Prelude to cause trouble when I added it

I blame people for adding too many lines rather than putting things on the ends of existing lines, which is typically easier

Wheat Wizard

Its also because Brain-Flak added way too many parens

MD XF

1:44 AM

@WheatWizard Does the interpreter for python 0.9.1 work for you?

Wheat Wizard

No I need to get my other computer

ais523

I like the way that we have python 3, almost immediately python 2, much later python 1, and now people are talking about adding python 0

Chance

Hmm. I think I probably added most of the unnecessary lines, and added brain-flak. :/

MD XF

2:40 AM

I haven't added any lines *yay*

MD XF

3:50 AM

Maybe we could add Memescript, too

I wrote that when I was bored

I just clarified the README so that I'm not the only one who knows how to use it :P

MD XF

4:41 AM

All right, four languages waiting. Someone ping me when another one gets added.

Potato44

7:20 AM

Is there any particular reason the 3rd last line is nearly empty?

also are empty lines dangerous to any of th elanguages?

I've found an interpreter for archway 2, so I'm going to have a go at trying to add it.

Potato44

8:05 AM

Don't you just love errors in interpreters.
Why does this cast even exist? ((int) mem[cell])++;
This bug wasn't in the original archway either, and they have nearly identical code

Wait, I could probably use the original Archway if I don't need looping. I shouldn't for a simple print and i wasn't going to use looping anyway probably. Just means a long line of increments. Is that okay?

Potato44

12:57 PM

Has something changed about japt on TIO? I was trying out my next answer and noticed japt was failing with (}o+?23!@)-( as output. I checked the last few answers and they all pass if the output cache is there. But they fail with the same error if I ignore the output cache.

SnoringFrog

1:38 PM

@Potato44 Looks like an Octave block comment, which has to be on it's own line, iirc.

Potato44

@SnoringFrog ended up not being able to use that line as its one of the ones where retina doesn't like +

but the line a few above that ending in s ended up being good for not breaking stuff

only problem is archway won't work unless the file ends with a newline, but adding a newline breaks Retina and SMBF

SMBF probably wouldn't be too hard to fix, but i have no idea for Retina

SnoringFrog

Retina generally wants you to add two lines if you add any

Beyond that, all I know is it's something about regex

Potato44

Do we know of the languages on the last line which must absolutely be there?

SnoringFrog

I don't have the slightest clue. Chance did a detailed write up that addressed every line to some degree back in answer 47. Little outdated now, but might be a good starting point.

V/Vim probably needs to stay on the last line.
rk could be moved.
Algol could probably be moved with sufficient commenting.
Not sure about Trigger.
SMBF could, in theory, be rewritten/moved, but I think depending on the end of the file is the shortest solution.

Removing Algol would also give you some leeway to remove various padding characters that are just down there to keep Prelude happy (although the space after the initial s is needed to detokenize s<space>, afaik.

Looks like Pyth and Pip are both down there, no clue how moving them would work. Not sure what the pipes or the $// are about, or the *///~-<~-<~-<<<~-X, or our emoticon

Potato44

1:59 PM

the ~-<~-<~-<<<~- thing is wise I think.

the emoticon is incident if you mean _^_^.

Wheat Wizard

^ it is wise

Potato44

2:27 PM

Unless someone else has an idea how to get a linefeed as the last character of the program I don't think I'l be adding archway. Here is what i got so far anyway.
https://tio.run/##zVvNcttIkj43XmEuZZBtACIBEKQkS@KPJNvyrHvsltaS7QmTtAyBIAkLfw2AImWZjr3uxh7mPpc9znvMdZ9iXqT3yyrwRyIld0/sRiwkEQVUVmZWZlZmVhZ1YafDX38t0MVOIv964EcZy9w0Y73Eu3ITgz29Zge2l25Va5LEoZKoN3K8cMCyocu8MB5lrO/5bio5dsZaLM6xGNRgBZa4dk@ASf0oYTSEBZc@85gTx@zCt4eGw3yPw6ZRQP2Zm8SJi8@Uha7bY2nsOl7fczgd5k4yN0y9KEwN5jmXbOz5Puu5PgYsiDtlIGOjdOmVIGVIvUhiuJz4Dqvzp6ILmNCdTdeN7YRPN2Ixn/ts1uPEjmMwKRXYKRjPvMBNmZcpKXPt1CMZYkjqhj0uqXgu3YjZ4fIs2ZVnMxv8j…

Chance

3:49 PM

@Potato44 actually, I think adding a linefeed to the end isn't too difficult.

looks like only Retina would be a problem.

If you add 2 lines to the end, Retina returns 198. THat should be fixable.

Potato44

@fixable, but I have no idea how Retina works

@Chance ^

plus Archway must start on the second last line with the last line being empty

Chance

still probably workable.

could throw a line at the end, and a line somewhere else.

It just needs to be in pairs

Line after }<> and a line at the end works.

Can Archway's code co-exist with the other code on what is currently the last line?

@Potato44 ^

The way I've fixed Retina in the past is to kinda just guess and check at removing large chunks of code.

In this way, I whittle down the polyglot to just figure out where the output is coming from.

The 8 near the beginning of the last line is part of Retina's answer.

Potato44

archway is perfectly fine in current last line, works perfectly in archway if you just add a linefeed to the end of what I shared in my last link

Chance

And the long python line was/is important to it's answer.

oh, I didn't look at that. I'll review

Potato44

I swapped one of the spaces for a + to increment archways first memory cell, then it gets deflected upwards by the next /

Chance

4:01 PM

is there no BF like [] type loops?

Potato44

nope

you may be able to make a loop with reflectors though

they only reflect if current tape position is non-x=zero

non-zero

Chance

oh, that's cool. sounds a lot like Minimal-2D

Potato44

oh, if I haven't mentioned yet control flow starts in the lower left gong rightward

Chance

oh, right! I remember you mention that.

Potato44

Just checked adding a formfeed in a random position in the code, no languages in the test driver barfed at it. We may be able to get trefunge in

Chance

4:06 PM

cool

I see why Retina was having a problem with that location. consecutive +'s on I think odd numbered lines error out

Potato44

I think I put it on that libe because it was erroring on a line of opposite parity

Chance

https://tio.run/##zVvNcttIkj43XmEuZZBtACIBEKQkS@KPJNvyrHvsltaS7QmTtAyBIAkLfw2AImWZjr3uxh7mPpc9znvMdZ9iXqT3yyrwRyIld0/sRiwkEQVUVmZWZlZmVhZ1YafDX38t0MVOIv964EcZy9w0Y73Eu3ITgz29Zge2l25Va5LEoZKoN3K8cMCyocu8MB5lrO/5bio5dsZaLM6xGNRgBZa4dk@ASf0oYTSEBZc@85gTx@zCt4eGw3yPw6ZRQP2Zm8SJi8@Uha7bY2nsOl7fczgd5k4yN0y9KEwN5jmXbOz5Puu5PgYsiDtlIGOjdOmVIGVIvUhiuJz4Dqvzp6ILmNCdTdeN7YRPN2Ixn/ts1uPEjmMwKRXYKRjPvMBNmZcpKXPt1CMZYkjqhj0uqXgu3YjZ4fIs2ZVnMxv8jhKOO3WTDNMzOF42dBMXKG0iPkjsgKnjxMsgAhLkITtx7YSdJa6rgQoU4KaOHYOPWyRBLCIKGU3E4IpqNJSj4xcKFCZGGHacSYWkdvavP0k2M5qseF7HX1OW69LRz8/ZTbFDbXABZFBqnKi2xprfWGp2Oi7@JtaFOUi…

I swapped the lines around a little so retina would be a little more sane

still gotta figure out where the answer is coming from.

I'm gonna look into Japt's fail. probably got updated.

Potato44

yeah, probably an update because it is failing in some of our current answers

I was getting different output from TIO depending on whether I used the output cache or not

Chance

we have been exploiting a bug with japt, so I've kind of been expecting this. :P

Potato44

yeah, now it outpits the stuff in quotes on the first line

@Chance how you rearranged the lines is looking good, works in archway. Now just need to find out how it is breaking retina. I think cubix is broken because we went up a cube size.

Chance

4:23 PM

cool. hopfully you can figure out a retina fix.

Potato44

I have to work out how retina as a language work before i can do that

Chance

maybe. I have't had to... yet. :P

Potato44

Is there a pretty printer for cubix?

SnoringFrog

@Potato44 Even better: ethproductions.github.io/cubix

Potato44

Nice

SnoringFrog

4:32 PM

Cubix, Hexagony, and Cardinal (or was it Fission?) all have some sort of visualizer that I know of, though I have no clue where I found the last one.

Potato44

Does the IP for cubix start on the topface or the left face?

Chance

left face I think

Potato44

yeah left, I just found that the webpage can run the program

Chance

so it looks like Japt is transpiling to put everythign on one line, and the java script line comment on line 1 is causing most of the JS top be commented.

My Fortran answer changes this comment to a block comment though, so maybe it will allow us to keep using the current version.

oh, nope. the parser block also got fixed.

looks like we'll have to run Japt manually from now on.

Potato44

@Chance yeah, that sucks, do we know what version of japt we were using?

Chance

4:46 PM

not sure.

I suppose we'd have to check the dates.

Actually, I think I might be able to make a test abstraction for Japt.

Potato44

how so?

Chance

I'll regex out all the stuff that get's removed via the parser block before feeding it into current japt.

Luke

5:46 PM

The Japt interpreter at ethproductions.github.io/japt has a versioning system

2

This link will use the correct version of Japt forever

@Chance ^

@SnoringFrog I'm creating a visual interpreter for Fission (2) in JavaScript now.

Chance

@Luke Good find. thanks!

This is the Japt version that was current at the time it was added to the polyglot

ethproductions.github.io/japt/?v=1.3.0&code=&input=

Luke

6:02 PM

Maybe we should pin the message with the link to the correct version...

Chance

I updated the last answer with the updated test driver and a link to the correct japt interpreter.

MD XF

@Chance Thanks

Potato44

7:31 PM

I got some help from Martin with Retina and now we have a program that only breaks pip and the C family of languages, but it ends in a newline.
https://tio.run/##zVvNcttIkj43XmEuZZBtACIBEKQkS@KPJNvyrHvsltaS7QmTtAyBIAkLfw2AImWZjr3uxh7mPpc9znvMdZ9iXqT3yyrwRyIld0/sRiwlAQVUVmZWZlZmVhZ1YafDX38t0IedRP71wI8ylrlpxnqJd@UmBnt6zQ5sL92q1iSJQyVRb@R44YBlQ5d5YTzKWN/z3VRy7Iy1WJxjMajBCixx7Z4Ak/pRwmgICy595jEnjtmFbw8Nh/keh02jgPozN4kTF9eUha7bY2nsOl7fczgd5k4yN0y9KEwN5jmXbOz5Puu5PgYsiDtlIGOjdOmVIGVIvUhi@DjxHVbnT0UXMKE7m64b2wmfbsRiPvfZrMeJHcdgUiqwUzCeeYGbMi9TUubaqUcyxJDUDXtcUvFcuhGzw@VZsivPZjb4HSUcd@omGaZncLxs6CY…

MD XF

@Potato44 Yay

Potato44

well actually I meant those are the only extra langauges it breaks

okay, fixed the C family by adding in a // comment

Chance

hmm. why the second to last line?

MD XF

Wait so are you almost ready to add another language?

Chance

7:51 PM

I'm getting close. I'm just trying to golf now

MD XF

Yay

Potato44

@Chance I needed to modify the program so that the last character is a newline without breaking Retina

MD XF

@Chance Actually, if you wouldn't mind posting and then golfing, that'd be great... so I can start working in one of my langs

Or just send me the TIO link

Potato44

@chance yeah, i'll wait for you to be done.

MD XF

@Potato44 Wait... you're waiting to add a language too?

Chance

7:57 PM

@Potato44 I'm wondering about why you have the second to last line in your code. I'm playing with C comments too.

Potato44

@MDXF I'm planning on adding archway

MD XF

@Potato44 I'm waiting to add three or four languages; would it be all right if I answered after Chance, and then you answer after me?

Potato44

@chance if that line doesn't start with a # it breaks the some # comment languages and i need the + and / for archway

MD XF

Just so we can get as many langs as possible, and I can't answer twice in a row

Potato44

@MDXF sounds fair to me

Chance

8:00 PM

can you not reflect up at the first / in the current last line?

Potato44

that is how i had it planned originally, but it was breaking retina only adding one extra line for the linefeed at the end

Chance

oh I see

MD XF

@Potato44 Thanks :D

Potato44

does anyone have any idea what would be breaking pip here, if i remove the contents of the last non-empty line pip works, but how I have it now, it breaks.
https://tio.run/##zVvNcttIkj43XmEuZZBtACIBEKQkS@KPJNvyrHvsltaS7QmTtAyBIAkLfw2AImWZjr3uxh7mPpc9znvMdZ9iXqT3yyrwRyIld0/sRiwlAQVUVmZWZlZmVhZ1YafDX38t0IedRP71wI8ylrlpxnqJd@UmBnt6zQ5sL92q1iSJQyVRb@R44YBlQ5d5YTzKWN/z3VRy7Iy1WJxjMajBCixx7Z4Ak/pRwmgICy595jEnjtmFbw8Nh/keh02jgPozN4kTF9eUha7bY2nsOl7fczgd5k4yN0y9KEwN5jmXbOz5Puu5PgYsiDtlIGOjdOmVIGVIvUhi@DjxHVbnT0UXMKE7m64b2wmfbsRiPvfZrMeJHcdgUiqwUzCeeYGbMi9TUubaqUcyxJDUDXtcUvFcuhGzw@VZsivPZjb4HSUcd@o…

Chance

pip's line comment is double space

maybe lead that line with ` `

MD XF

8:09 PM

Btw (since I opted out of seeing deleted posts), why are there 7 deleted answers?

Potato44

cant have backticks i don't think, because of retina

also adding a double space before the C comment didn't fix it

Chance

i just mean lead with double space

Potato44

double spacing the whole line didn't work either

Chance

might be that M near the end?

Potato44

it still works fine with the M if i remove the last line

it might be the fact # means length of in pip, testing that now

yay fixed pip, but broke trigger

Chance

8:17 PM

you could probably fix trigger by moving the X222999 into you'r second to last line

Potato44

I decided to take the length of the literal 5 and then put a lieral 25 for implicit output followed by a double space

Chance

cool

Potato44

moving that fixed trigger, but broke the C family, and prelude, but I know why prelude broke, vertical parenthesis

MD XF

@Potato44 If you send a link, I can help with the C family

Potato44

@MDXF Here you go, Reticular also broke
https://tio.run/##zVvNcttIkj43XmEuZZBtACIBEKQoS@KPJNvyrHvsltaS7QmTtAyBIAkLfw2AImWZjr3uxh7mPpc9znvMdZ9iXqT3yyrwRxIld0/sRiwlAQVUVmZWZlZmVhZ1bqejX38t0IcdR/7V0I8ylrlpxvqJd@kmBnt6xfZtL61Xa5LEoZKoP3a8cMiykcu8MB5nbOD5bio5dsbaLM6xGNRgBZa4dl@ASYMoYTSEBRc@85gTx@zct0eGw3yPw6ZRQP2Zm8SJi2vKQtftszR2HW/gOZwOc6eZG6ZeFKYG85wLNvF8n/VdHwOWxJ0ykLFxuvJKkDKkfiQxfJz4FquLp6ILmNCdT9eN7YRPN2Ixn/t81pPEjmMwKRXYCRjPvMBNmZcpKXPt1CMZYkjqhn0uqXgh3YjZ4eos2aVnMxv8jhOOO3WTDNMzOF42chMXKG0iPkzsgKmTxMsgAhLkATt27YSdJq6rgQoU4KaOHYOPGyRBLCIKGU3E4IpqNpXDoxcKFCZGGHacSYWkdvqvP0k2M1qseNbAX0uWG9L…

MD XF

8:25 PM

Hm, looks like SMBF and Japt broke too

Potato44

we, already knew thay were broke

MD XF

Oh darn did you add the /++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.-----. line?

Potato44

japt is because of an interpreter update

MD XF

What does Archway care about?

Potato44

yes, that line is for archway, though i can move it up 2 or down 2

MD XF

8:26 PM

i.e. if I add an extra / to the start, will it care?

And was that the only line you added?

Potato44

brain fuck characters besides [] plus /\ when current tape cell is non-zero

MD XF

You broke C by adding /* after the .int ...

Potato44

if you add the / before the current / it would be fine

i never added a /*

MD XF

I'm wrong. It was

Potato44

the archway can be moved any distance further right if you want as well, as long as you move both lines it cares about

MD XF

8:29 PM

What else did you add?

Potato44

it only cares about the + and the next / after that in the last line

an M in the formerly last line

MD XF

The //++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.-----. isn't screwing C up

Potato44

i think i changed a space to a + in the formerly last line

nope,

it was moving the trigger into the last line that screwed C up

MD XF

Yeah

Oh and you borked SMBF because the second-to-last character in the file needs to be 6

Potato44

i know, but that should be easy to fix, I think

even if we have to change to reading the 3rd last character

MD XF

8:32 PM

Okay yeah all this is what's messing with everything

#5 25 //X222999 +/#

is it completely necessary to be there?

Potato44

give me a sec and i'll show you one that works for the C family buy not trigger

MD XF

All right

That should be easier to fix

'cause there's no chance you're getting #5 25 to work with C and the other langs

Chance

there is a */// in the former last line. that can be moved to the new last code line

Potato44

this works with the C family
https://tio.run/##zVvNcttIkj43XmEuZZBtACIBEKQoS@KPJNvyrHvsltaS7QmTtAyBIAkLfw2AImWZjr3uxh7mPpc9znvMdZ9iXqT3yyrwRxIld0/sRiwlAQVUVmZWZlZmVhZ1bqejX38t0IcdR/7V0I8ylrlpxvqJd@kmBnt6xfZtL61Xa5LEoZKoP3a8cMiykcu8MB5nbOD5bio5dsbaLM6xGNRgBZa4dl@ASYMoYTSEBRc@85gTx@zct0eGw3yPw6ZRQP2Zm8SJi2vKQtftszR2HW/gOZwOc6eZG6ZeFKYG85wLNvF8n/VdHwOWxJ0ykLFxuvJKkDKkfiQxfJz4FquLp6ILmNCdT9eN7YRPN2Ixn/t81pPEjmMwKRXYCRjPvMBNmZcpKXPt1CMZYkjqhn0uqXgh3YjZ4eos2aVnMxv8jhOOO3WTDNMzOF42chMXKG0iPkzsgKmTxMsgAhLkATt27YSdJq6rgQoU4KaOHYOPGyRBLCIKGU3E4IpqNpXDoxcKFCZGGHacSYWkdvqvP0k2M1qseNbAX0uWG9Lhz8/ZdbFLbX…

MD XF

@Potato44 How many other langs does it bork?

@Chance When do you plan to add your language?

@Potato44 I think that one will be much easier to fix

Potato44

8:38 PM

@MDXF reticular and haystack

@Chance i'll investigate that

MD XF

Well, and Cubix, and Trigger, and SMBF @Potato44

Potato44

Cubix is broken because we went up a size, I think

MD XF

Crud, SMBF isn't happy

Potato44

I wanted to get the lower few lines sorted first

how so?

MD XF

Nvm

SnoringFrog

8:40 PM

@MDXF They got deleted for various reasons. Mine were invalidated, or ended up being broken when I knew I wouldn't have time to fix them. I had at least one answer that I deleted/undeleted at least 5 or 6 times before it ended up in...whichever state it's in now.

MD XF

I don't think having a newline at the end will work; why is it necessary?

Potato44

For archway. why don't you think it will work?

MD XF

@Potato44 The second-to-last character has to be a 6 to work with SMBF, but the last character has to be a # to work with ALGOL

Chance

I'm very close

Just solving cubix

MD XF

@Chance Good job

Potato44

8:43 PM

How hard is the SMBF to change?

also, algol doesn't mind last character being line feed

MD XF

Quite hard AFAIK

@Potato44 Well yeah, but only because the second-to-last is #

Chance

naw, SMBF can be changed

it has a private code space.

infact, it doesn't have to look at the second to last char if you dont want

MD XF

@Chance Oh really?? How can we move it back to the third?

Chance

but it would ovbiously be more verbose

I wrote about it in algol

SnoringFrog

Yeah, changing it to 2nd to last was a pretty recent switch

Potato44

8:45 PM

@Chance i'll take a look once i get trigger and stuff working

MD XF

@Potato44 You probably also messed up Incident 'cause there are three 25's now

SnoringFrog

Also, the third character is currently 6. Is accessing the front of the program as simple as the end for SMBF?

Chance

@MDXF you're always going to mess up incident. :p

Potato44

@SnoringFrog should just be a few > commands, depends more on the other languages

MD XF

@Chance True

@Chance Did you mess up Incident with your new lang?

Potato44

8:48 PM

i think the 25 in the old last line i ssuperfluous

MD XF

OH I just added Morse and guess how many langs were borked?

Potato44

lots

Chance

OOOOh yeah

MD XF

None

I borked zero langs

Chance

I went through the last several posts and removed all the incident de-tokenizing strings

then added back as few as I could

ok. Job's done.

https://tio.run/##zTrLcttIkmfjF@ZSBtkGQBIvUqQlgaQk29Ksu@2W1pLtCZO0XAKLJCy8DIAiZZmOve7GHuY@lz3Of8x1v2J@pDezCnxIpOTuiN2IhUSwgMrKd2VlZfGCpqPffivgRU4i/3roRxnJWJqRfuJdscQgz67JPvXSerUmSRwqifpj1wuHJBsx4oXxOCMDz2ep5NKMtEmcYzGwQQokYbQvwKRBlBAcQoJLn3jEjWNy4dOR4RLfA9gjaxvg0yhAmIwlccLgnpKQsT5JY@Z6A8/ltAibZixMvShMDeK5l2Ti@T7pMx8GLBlwK4CMjNOVV4KcIfUjicDlxnfYXTwVGcCEbC4yi2nCRY5IzOWfSz5JaBwDk1KBnALjmRewlHiZkhJGUw/1CENSFva5tuKFhiNCw1UpyZVHCQV@xwnHnbIkA/EMjpeMWMIAJUXiw4QGRJ0kXgYqQGUekBNGE3KWMKYBFTACS10aAx@3SAKxCClkKIjBjdVsKofHRwoYTYwwaJxJhaR29q8/S5QYLVI8d@DTkmVHOvz1BbkpdrENXAAyMGycqFQjre8kNbtdBp@pfWEOk5kEWCX…

feel free to build off of this answer.

I'll post it this in a few hours after I finish writeup.

gtg for now

MD XF

8:54 PM

@Chance Yay! Thanks

Oh jeez you changed a lot

Potato44

yeah, i'll have to rearrange mine a bit

MD XF

Welp looks like mine is ready to post too

Morse is 100% compatible with everything

Luke

O.o

We literally have two answers in the queue now.

Well done

Potato44

I've managed to get mine down to just SMBF and cubix broken in the wrapper, Haven't checked the other langs

MD XF

@Luke I've got four languages waiting

Potato44

8:58 PM

and cubix might be fixed by using chances changes

MD XF

@Potato44 You know, there's really no point doing what you're doing rn...

since two more languages will be added before yours can

Potato44

only somewhat true, I've worked out how to get the newline at the end we need, and the only one of the two I see messing that up is the Fortran

MD XF

Ohh okay

Potato44

*possibly see

MD XF

Nothing will mess Morse up

You'll have to be careful about what, though

It reads three characters at a time, so if the long line of ?s and !s doesn't start on a first character, it'll bork

Potato44

9:03 PM

I don't plan on moving what

MD XF

What don't you plan on moving?

(*ba dum crash*)

MD XF

9:19 PM

@Chance Ping me when you finish the post, I've got a meeting with a 20-minute break at 4 so I'll have time to write my post if you've done yours. Thanks :-)

Luke

@MDXF Remember we're not all in your timezone ;-)

MD XF

@Luke Oh yeah :P 11:00 UTC

The whole world should just convert to UTC

Potato44

woo, modified the Chance's Fortran one to be in the same state as what mine was before. Even get a bonus of not having t fix cubix myself.

now for the SMBF

MD XF

9:37 PM

@Potato44 Wow, so we might have 3 langs in the queue! Nice!

Oh my, rk should be so messed up right now

what probably is too...

rk:end?(???!?!??!??!!!!???!?!??!!?!?!!!!!?!!!!?????!????????????????????!) prevents rk from ending its code

Potato44

@MDXF the SMBF turned out to be trivial to fix, besides breaking cubix, which i'm working on now

MD XF

@Potato44 Hmm, I've never broken Cubix so I can't help, sorry

Wheat Wizard

@Potato44 Cubix is not too hard

We have a capsul

4O6O@

just move it around so it is executed

Use the online interpreter to get a view of how it looks

Potato44

9:53 PM

yeah, found the online interpreter, forgot reading the 4060@ is movable

Cubix fixed, prelude broke, time for space shuffling

MD XF

@Potato44 watch out for what

Potato44

@MDXF , I have to make sure i add or remove in multiples of 3, right?

MD XF

Yep

Wheat Wizard

Maybe what was not a good idea

should be fun though

MD XF

How come? @WheatWizard

Wheat Wizard

10:07 PM

The shift by 3 rule is going to be a pain

We could probably harden it, but that would cost bytes

MD XF

@WheatWizard Well hey, it's not Incident

or Prelude

Wheat Wizard

or cubix

MD XF

Yeah

If anything was not a good idea it's those three

Wheat Wizard

The funny thing is those three are really easy to break, but probably wont ever prevent us from adding a language

Potato44

@WheatWizard, can you test the non-TIO langs?

MD XF

10:10 PM

@WheatWizard what won't, right?

Wheat Wizard

@MDXF Probably not

MD XF

Okay good :P

Wheat Wizard

@Potato44 Gimme a link and I'll test Moorhens, deadfish and Incident

I don't have commercial yet

Potato44

here it is
https://tio.run/##zTrbdtpKls/RL/RLRXAiCdANDLEtwHYSuyfnJG1P7CS9AsQpiwIU6xZJGByHrHmdWfPQ7/0yj/0f/Tpf0T9yZu8qcbHBzjm9ZtYa2YiSalft@65du7ig6ejXXwt4kZPIvx76UUYylmakn3hXLDHIs2uyT720Xq1JEodKov7Y9cIhyUaMeGE8zsjA81kquTQjbRLnsxjYIAWSMNoXYNIgSggOIcGlTzzixjG58OnIcInvAeyRtQ3waRQgTMaSOGFwT0nIWJ@kMXO9gedyXIRNMxamXhSmBvHcSzLxfJ/0mQ8DlgS4FZiMjNOVVwKdIfUjicDlxnfIXTwVGcCEbM4yi2nCWY5IzPmfcz5JaBwDkVKBnALhmRewlHiZkhJGUw/lCENSFva5tOKFhCNCw1UuyZVHCQV6xwmfO2VJBuwZfF4yYgmDKSkiHyY0IOok8TIQAQrzgJwwmpCzhDENsIASWOrSGOi4hRKQRYghQ0YMrqxmUzk8PlJAaWKEQeNMKiS1s3/9WaLEaJHiuQOfliw70uGfXpCbYhfbQAVMBoqNE5VqpPWdpGa3y@Az…

Wheat Wizard

and you can do SNUSP and Reng online

Potato44

10:12 PM

I could probably golf off some spaces in the second last line

Wheat Wizard

@Potato44 What happened to what?

I added it to the driver before

Potato44

I'm using the version of the driver Chance had for his fortran

Wheat Wizard

Could you use the new one? I added some useful stuff inclduing what

Potato44

I think i can copy it over from the other driver i was working with before

Chance

did I miss some things?

Wheat Wizard

10:13 PM

Did chance add anything to the Fortran one?

Chance

I addressed Japt

just small stuff tho

https://tio.run/##zTrbdtpKls/RL/RLRXAiCdANbGJbgO0kdk/OSY49sZP0ChCnEAUo1i2SMDgOWfM6s@ah3/tlHvs/@nW@on/kzN5V4mKDnXPWmllrBEilql21r7Vr1y56NB399lsBL3Ia@ddDP8pIxtKM9BPviiUGeXZNDqiXbldrksShkqg/dr1wSLIRI14YjzMy8HyWSi7NSIvE@SgGFkiBJIz2BZg0iBKCXUhw6ROPuHFMej4dGS7xPYA9tnYAPo0ChMlYEicM7ikJGeuTNGauN/BcjouwacbC1IvC1CCee0kmnu@TPvOhw5IAtwKDkXG6UiXQGVI/kghcbnyH3MVbkQFMyOYss5gmnOWIxJz/OeeThMYxECkVyBkQnnkBS4mXKSlhNPVQjtAlZWGfSyteSDgiNFzlklx5lFCgd5zwsVOWZMCewcclI5YwGJIi8mFCA6JOEi8DEaAwD8kpowk5TxjTAAsogaUujYGOWygBWYQYMmTE4MpqNJSjk2MFlCZ6GDTOpEJSO//XnyVKjCYpXjjwa8qyIx39@oLcFDtYBipgMFBsnKhUI83vJDU7HQa/qd0zh8lMglE…

Wheat Wizard

@Potato44 Incident is broken

I'll test the others

Chance

made a small change to move the 59 in the last line

@MDXF^

Wheat Wizard

I can combine the two in a sec, I'm just testing for potato rn

Moorhens outputs 60

deadfish is good

I don't have surface anymore

Chance

I updated my version of the driver.

can you test my code in moorhens/incident/deadfish?

Potato44

10:17 PM

@Chance was the 59 removed or moved?

Wheat Wizard

Ok

Chance

moved. only effects incident tokens. it replaces the 5 in brain-flak's space.

Wheat Wizard

We need version control for the driver

Chance

lol. yep

Wheat Wizard

deadfish works

moorhens works

Incident prints nothing

Chance

10:29 PM

dang. thanks. I'll fix

Potato44

I just realised my rearranging at the end really does stuff to the incident tokens

Chance

that's bound to happen.

ok, whatever I did with that incident token move for 59 caused incident to misalign. reverting.

https://tio.run/##zVtLc9tIkj4bf2EuZZBtACIBEKQkS@JDkm1p1j3tkdaS7YkmaRkCQRIWXg2AImWZjr3uxh7mPpc9zv@Y6/6K@SO9X1aBD4mU3B2xG7G0CBRQWZXPysrMoi/tdPjrrwX6sNPIvxn4UcYyN81YL/Gu3cRgL27Yge2lW9WaJHGoJOqNHC8csGzoMi@MRxnre76bSo6dsRaL81kMarACS1y7J8CkfpQwGsKCK595zIljdunbQ8NhvgfY48oO4NMoIJjMTeLExTVloev2WBq7jtf3HI6LuZPMDVMvClODec4VG3u@z3qujwELApwyJmOjdOmVQGdIvUhi@DjxPXLnT0UXMKE7Y9mN7YSzHLGY8z/jfJzYcQwipQI7A@GZF7gp8zIlZa6deiRHDEndsMelFc8lHDE7XOaSXXs2s0HvKOFzp26SgT2Dz8uGbuJiSpuQDxI7YOo48TKIgIR5yE5dO2HnietqwAIluKljx6DjDkogiwhDRowYXFmNhnJ0cqxAaWKEYceZVEhq5//6o2Qzo8mKF3V8m7Jcl47@/IrdFjvUBhWYDIqNE9XWWPMbS81Ox8V3Yl2…

Potato44

This SNUSP interpreter we are using is confusing me

@Chance change the code for running what to "/opt/tio-transpilers/brainfuck what.bf"

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