Polyglot Development

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ais523

01:26

@WheatWizard: Deadfish~ doesn't care about parentheses at all, so I doubt you'll need to worry about that one

Thutu likes parentheses to be matched within /-delimited sections of a line, although I'm not sure that's mandatory; it also likes lines to end with / unless they start with #

I don't know that much about Japt but IIRC it cares about what goes inside braces; you could try using single quotes inside the braces (i.e. change {…} to {'…'}) to see if that helps

SNUSP has its own entry point so should be very hard to break if you don't break up its code

unbreaking Incident is something of an art form of its own, typically you do that last

and Reng is a 2D language that doesn't parse anything other than the first and last few lines, it tends not to break often; I wonder what you did there?

btw, less than a week left for the next answer

whether zsh or brain-flak classic or something else, I look forward to it :-)

Wheat Wizard

01:43

@ais523 I now realize that some of the languages I claimed I had "broken" are just not available on TIO

how long exactly do we have?

ais523

02:02

until May 1 (next Monday)

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Wheat Wizard

20:51

Ok it looks like chance has posted his/hers so I will get to work on mine

ais523

A: Add a language to a polyglot

54. Zsh, 1206 bytes #16 "(}23!@)(" 3//*v\D@;'[af2.qc]'#)"14";n4 #/*` PkPPX (22)S"[!(>7 7*,;68*,@;'1,@␉␉␉␉ P''53'S^'q #>␉ # >36!@␉ #`<` #<]+<[.>-]>[ #{ #z} # #=x<R+++++[D>+++++++EAL+++<-][pPLEASE,2<-#2DO,2SUB#1<-#52DO,2SUB#2<-#32DOREADOUT,2PLEASEGIVEUPFACiiipsddsdoh]>+.-- -. >][ #x%+>+=ttt Z_*. #D>

@Chance: Are you running the Incident interpreter locally now? Or did you just copy that bit from my post without realising it had changed?

Chance

I'm not actually testing it. I've mostly just got a feel for the rules.

ais523

right, you said you tested it in your post, I'm assuming that's a typo (as you also copied the VIP score from my post in addition to the new one)

Chance

I think my starting point was answer 54, so I think everything should be included.

ais523

"Incident was verified to test 33 by running the official interpreter on my own machine."

Chance

20:54

typically I compare the incident business tokens to the prior answer as part of verification.

ais523

I tested it on mine, just to be sure; it works

Chance

cool

Wheat Wizard

ok well the zsh really messes up classic

Chance

dang. really?

I just came over here after posting. so I didn't realize there was another answer cooking

Wheat Wizard

yeah [[[]]] prints -1, -1 so I'll have to rewrite zsh/bash

no problem though

ais523

20:55

hmm, I just realised I had an HTML Incident syntax highlighter lying around

here's the polyglot in all its Incidenty glory: nethack4.org/pastebin/polyglot.html

Chance

oh wow! cool.

I'm editing that in!

ais523

that's a temporary link

we can try to find a more permanent home if you like, though

Chance

oh. yeah

THat's probably best.

ais523

btw, the highlighter is in the official Incident distribution

I keep running the HTML by mistake (meaning to use a VT100 version to view it in my terminal)

Chance

I'm in a location where doing anything that's not web based isn't really an option, so HTML is best.

BTW, I didn't check Deadfish~ either. I kinda just stayed away from that space and assumed it would work.

ais523

21:00

maybe I should finally write that online Incident highlighter I've been working on

also, anything that changes only text after the Deadfish~ code can't affect it, IIRC it isn't even parsing after the first h in the program

I'm not 100% sure it even reads in the input

Chance

Anyon know if it's possible to get Deadfish~ in Tio?

Wheat Wizard

Ask @Dennis

Chance

I sent him something once, but I don't want to pester him if anyone else has talked with him.

ais523

we'd need to modify the interpreter to not spam prompts

after doing that, I don't see any reason it wouldn't be addable

I'm slacking on writing that SNUSP interpreter I was planning to write…

Wheat Wizard

Ok I made this bash zsh polyglot which contains less [...] but is unbalanced

This works in the two and does minimal damage in Brain-flak and classic

Oh hey its even shorter than the original

ais523

21:20

I don't think you need the quotes around "1"

Wheat Wizard

^ good point

Now zsh is complaining about something

ais523

oh, that's because bash/zsh start an unmatched string in their line

and only end it on a later line

Wheat Wizard

hm.

Oh I see

Chance

wow. well done

Wheat Wizard

Ok currently broken are:
Japt
Pyth
Thutu
Alphuck

Unknown are:

Deadfish~
Incident
SNUSP

Chance

21:34

alphuck is easy. your solution zsh solution has 2 s to in needs 2 preceeding ps

just one additional

Wheat Wizard

thanks!

how does that work?

ok I see

Is there any resource for learning how japt works?

Chance

this is the japt resource ive used

ethproductions.github.io/japt

for japt, most of the ployglot lives in a string

it's a backtic initiated string

curlybraces in japt are a way to include code within the string. think string variables.

Wheat Wizard

Where is the actual code that does stuff located?

Chance

I think literal numbers within the curlybraces are the easiest way to deal with japt

Wheat Wizard

I assume on the line I'm edditing

Chance

21:44

no, it's way at the end.

Wheat Wizard

currently japt has a problem with the )s in the zsh/bash

Chance

|1|6$

this is the japt answer

Wheat Wizard

Chance

japt seemed ok with the )s from my view. this seems like a problem tho: {(<{}(({}){})>)}

Wheat Wizard

yeah I just figured that out myself

I wonder what it thinks is going on

Chance

21:51

lol

Wheat Wizard

Oh it shows the decompiled JS

thats helpful

(for people that know JS)

Chance

yeah, that hasn't been as helpful for me. :P

Wheat Wizard

Ok so Thanks to ETHproductions I found the problem

Chance

Pyth seems like a problem

Wheat Wizard

I actually have not fixed Japt yet anyway

there is another place where it is encountering a problem

Chance

22:06

my old brainflak solution threw a bunch of \ to escape out curly braces.

Wheat Wizard

I think that is for Thutu

Ok I'm going to take a break

Thanks for the help

Chance

both actually

np. :)

2 hours later…

Wheat Wizard

23:40

Japt is done

Up next is pyth

Chance

nice

Wheat Wizard

What does pyth care about

Chance

from what I saw, pyth's error was due to the "(("

Wheat Wizard

Oh ok

((((((

Thats probably not good then

Chance

actually just the "(("+...

I believe it's dropping out of a string and parsing 2 un matched open parens

Wheat Wizard

23:48

Oh ok yeah I see

Chance

I think the trick is to find a place to put the (( that's not in quotes and doesn't break prelude

Wheat Wizard

Yeah

I think I can move (( to the beginning of the line by the pp

Chance

cool. that was my thinking too

Wheat Wizard

Seems to work

Chance

Prelude is gonna be tough.

Wheat Wizard

23:54

I can't decode the current error though

Chance

current error?

Wheat Wizard

tio.run/nexus/pyth#PU6LCoJAEPyVQ4PbTUzPNIg7L/…

It says its errorring on "Psum" but I am not sure how that is possible

Oh no thats not it

It doesn't like the *

Chance

pyth works when you run that line in the full polyglot

pyth is another one that parses the whole thing and believes most of it is a string.

Wheat Wizard

oh cool

I should have tried that

It looks like adding pyth saved bytes

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