@stormy Are you around? I don't have time to chat, but really want to ask you to delete that comment on @Shule's (hi Shule!) hose question, especially because he also agreed some of it was unnecessary. Much of it is off the subject, and "p...ed me off" isn't family friendly. What if I showed up here for the first time and saw that? I'd definitely get a wrong impression of the site! That's one of the reasons they invented these chat rooms, for venting, etc.