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12:00 AM
Hello..
I wrote an answer that is not useful anymore because a question update. Should I delete it? gardening.stackexchange.com/a/13657/6910
 
@ondoteam you could edit it to be correct if you wanted, but yeah, you can delete it if you need to.
 
@waxeagle thank you. Is it a best practice if I don't want to update it?
Hi @J.Musser
 
12:19 AM
@ondoteam hi
 
How are you?
 
@ondoteam Awesome. Got up at 4:00 am today and worked 13 hours...
@ondoteam How are you?
 
that is a lot of working hours :(
I am fine too..
I aslo have many waking hours in my back
 
@ondoteam I do lawn care, plant health care, landscape designs and installations, specialty pruning, on-site diagnosis, among a number of other various fun stuff. it keeps a guy busy.
@ondoteam How long have you been up?
Plants are fun.
 
you are a professional in the field
I wope up at 06:00 (now it is 01:28)
woke*
 
12:29 AM
@ondoteam Yes, this site gives me a good break from work.
You know, you can edit your chat posts if you want, if you are fast enough.
 
hahaha really? You love plants!
 
@ondoteam What is your proffesion?
 
Yeah I know, but it took to me a lot of time (lost in translation).
I am a software developer
but I love plants..
 
@ondoteam Cool! I can only write software one way.
 
I have more books about plants than code :)
 
12:33 AM
@ondoteam That's cool. I also have a good sized reference library.
 
What do you mean with "one way"?
 
@ondoteam Like this: S-O-F-T-W-A-R-E. There, I wrote software. =)
 
hahaha ok :D
hey.. one non related question..
 
I am planning on returning to the United States
 
12:36 AM
ok
That's where I am
 
last time I was in CA (Los Ángeles > Ventura > Ojai) and the truth is that I loved those places..
 
@ondoteam I've never been that far west.
 
What place should I go for next time?
 
@ondoteam Hmm, if you like the smell of dairy farms, you could try PA, where I am. :)
 
for sure! Any small place?
I mean.. where you can speak with people.. not big cities :)
 
12:41 AM
@ondoteam I live in Lancaster county, surrounded by woodland and Amish farms. All hills.
 
Ok, I will point it in Google Maps
thank you!
@J.Musser I will not bother you anymore :D I am going to sleep!
see you!
Bye bye room!
 
@ondoteam See ya! (And I do like to chat sometimes, you didn't bother me at all)
 
 
14 hours later…
2:43 PM
@Bamboo you have five minutes to spare?
 
2:56 PM
hehe you found the way @Bamboo
 
@ondoteam Yea, got about 8 minutes! I grew this in my garden and a client's, but it certainly wasn't scented at all - and I have a strong sense of smell. Maybe its the heat where you are that means it has a scent
while I'm here, can you tell me how to get into the Garden Shed - the only way I got here now is to click on Niall's response to me about another subject but there must be a way of getting in here that I don't know about...
 
I write in English quite slow, do not despair..
I think that I have pictures of a J. humile in my archive.. but it was scented (sticking my nose to the flower)
yes, of course, I can help you.
 
@ondoteam - were you wearing aftershave at the time;-))
 
Open gardening.stackexchange.com in a new tab or window
 
@Bamboo From the main site, click on the "Stack Exchange" at the top left, then there's a link to chat on the right of the first row.
 
3:03 PM
@NiallC. a picture is worth a thousand words
 
@ondoteam -0h yea, I just tried it, and its easy peasy, knew it must be. But I'm much more a horticulturalist than computer savvy!
 
Nice!
Now I have a question for you :D
 
ok
 
Any advice for J. humile?
 
well drained site in full or half sun, in the UK best planted in the lee of a wall (sheltered) but probably where you are, doesn't matter cos its warmer year round. Plenty of room required - gets 8 feet by 8 feet. By the way, book says it's fragrant, but mine certainly wasn't.
How disappointing that mine wasn't - when yours flowers, I'd like to know if its fragrant. I grew mine from a cutting taken in the client's garden, and hers wasn't fragrant either...
 
3:10 PM
thank you!
Maybe yours is not the same cultivar?
I am searching for the picture... give me five minutes
 
There isn't another freestanding cultivar, well not that grows in the UK anyway 'revolutum' is all there is. Probably variable scent, some fragrant plants are a bit variable
 
Yep, that's it, although I've moved now and don't have a garden just a balcony, so haven't got this plant now anyway. By the way, just in case when I said freestanding, I meant its the only one that doesn't climb or need support
Your English is good, but I don't want you to have to work too hard to understand what I'm saying...
 
Thank you! I have learned English in Internet forums and my grammar is not good
I will do one thing. I will wait until the plant blooms. If it is scented I will do a cut for you and if it is not scented I will try to get a cut from the plant of the picture :)
if you like one.. of course
 
3:26 PM
Well that'd be great,thanks, but lord knows how I'd get it, given where I am and where you are
Funny thing is, I'm doing a replant in a client's neglected garden, and I'm considering using this plant there - maybe, if I do, that one will be scented!
 
mmm sorry but I don't understand the phrase
you mean that we are too far away and it will be a shipping problem?
 
Yea - I'm pretty sure there are lots of rules these days about shipping plants because of all the new diseases/infestations spreading everywhere
 
I have imported some D. Austin roses without problem from U.K.
by the way I have experience buying thing on eBay from U.K. and normally the shipping is pretty fast
 
Oh, okay, maybe it won't be an issue then
Although I know David Austin has an export licence, which means they're checked and certified by the authorities. Not sure about ebay suppliers though....
 
I think the worst is the money because the packet should be a box
Shipping roses was expensive.. but this packet will be small
 
3:33 PM
Ah well, I'll have to pay for that, so depends how much it might cost - we can talk about that if/when you get a cutting
 
Yes, of course..
 
Do you buy plants on Ebay? I've never risked it yet, not sure what the quality's like
 
It will take time until I can get a cut
no plants, just electronic
 
Ah, okay, that's all I've bought from there too, except for one medical item
 
I have some Internet shops for plants and seeds
 
3:36 PM
I have a nursery I use online a lot, one particular one I like, in the UK. The days when you could find what you wanted at the garden centre are long gone - they only sell what's in flower at the time.
But really I like to examine plants before I buy, turn them out of their pots and look at the roots, overall shape, that kind of thing. Not possible on line...
 
thats true..
 
the RHS at Wisley sells plants with a better choice, but its a long way to go from West London, where I am
Do you have 'garden centres' there?
 
Yeah, you mean nurseries?
 
Not really, though that might be what you call them. In the uk, a plant nursery is where they grow their own plants and you can buy them - a garden centre sells plants they buy in, and also loads of other stuff like furniture, candles, books, christmas trees at christmas instead of plants, more like a shopping emporium with plants
 
We have a lot of nurseries.. but normally only sell the most common plants
 
3:40 PM
For sure, if you want something unusual, you won't find it in the usual retail outlets
 
Ah ok.. something like Leroy Merlin
 
I forgot to say that garden centres also sell composts and pebbles, which nurseries generally don't. I'm going to have to look up Leroy Merlin now...
Yes, something like Leroy Merlin, but lots of plants too
 
We here call them nurseries, is the same.. I mean if I search for "viveros" in the dictionary I found "nursery"
but it is like a Garden Center
plants, substrates, fungicides, insecticides, tools.. everything :D
 
Ah, I see. You have to be careful here with 'nursery' - I once drove 5 miles to a nursery to find it was a children's day care centre
I was very disappointed!
 
xD haha nurse.. nursery
 
3:46 PM
Yup... same word. I think nursery for plants is accurate - they grow them from babies and then sell them on, and nursery for children, you get my drift. Whereas garden centre is different here.
 
okey, noted
In my island (Gran Canaria) we have one of the largest botanical gardens in Europe
 
I think I've seen that garden on the tv, or saw a programme about it some time back BBC did a series on gardens of note all over the place
Including Hidcote and Sissinghurst Castle of course
 
:D
We must advertise our land
 
I vaguely recall there was one in the Middle East somewhere too, and obviously, Italy
I have to shoot off now... nice chat, thanks...
 
I have to visit London one of these days and take a load of Joseph bentley tools :)
my pleasure!
see you, and thank you for the answer
bye bye !
 
 
3 hours later…
6:31 PM
@MattS. Every year, Gurneys sends me about 10 $25 off of $50 catalogs, 3 $75 off $150, and 2 $25/$50, $50/$100, and $100/200. Whenever one sale expires they send me the next one.
I buy a lot from them, and the half offs are nice (they'd be twice as expensive as their competitors otherwise).
Another nice thing is when gardens alive! Sends a $25 off anything offer.
 
@J.Musser Yeah, I bought a lot of flowers the last time they had a sale like that.
I had almost gotten blueberry plants then, but the shipping was turning out to be more than the coupon was worth.
I might have gone a bit overboard though, now I have five blueberry plants coming next month :P
 
6:48 PM
@MattS. nice
Hopefully you don't know what you're doing, and have to ask some questions on GL. =)
 
I think I have a good idea, but I might ask some anyways.
 
@MattS. Jung seed co. has a sale each spring where orders of $75 or more get free shipping. They are a very good supplier.
 
I was looking up ways to test soil and came across a method using juice from boiled cabbage I need to remember to ask about.
 
@MattS. Another nice thing about Gurneys is their lifetime guarantee on all their nursery stock.
@MattS. Oh yeah. That is fun, but not too accurate.
@MattS. does your bearded dragon have a name?
 
@J.Musser Smaug.
I'm not very good at names :p
 
6:56 PM
@MattS. But Smaug is an awesome name! I was just hoping it wasn't Phil Robertson.
 
I don't watch duck dynasty. I had to look up that name to know what it was from :P
 
@MattS. Yeah. I don't watch it either.
 
The only name I refused to use was Charmander, because that's what everyone names their bearded dragon.
 
@MattS. How long have you had him? (i'm guessing its a him)
 
A year now.
 
6:59 PM
@MattS. Was he full grown?
 
Nope, I got him when he was a wee baby. Like 4 inches long.
He's now getting to close to a foot.
 
@MattS. Wow! that's way more cool.
@MattS. What do they eat? I wish I had a pet that would eat bits of unwanted visitor, until they left.
 
Cool, but time consuming. Lots of scheduling feeding times to make sure he grew properly.
@J.Musser they're omnivores, so I feed him crickets and superworms, then mustard greens, squash, sweet potato, and some commercial food mash.
 
@MattS. I need a very fierce pet, that will rip people to shreds on command.
 
Tegu?
 
7:07 PM
@MattS. Sounds what most little boys eat. :)
 
They're pretty much komodo dragons without the infectious spit
 
@MattS. I just looked 'em up on Wikipedia.
@MattS. I think I'll get a tardis, and go back in time to get a T. rex.
That'll be impressive.
 
@MattS. Yes!
 
Those have always been my favorite. But I have yet to find one and have the space for it at the same time.
The last time I saw someone with babies to sell, I was in a 1 bedroom apartment.
 
7:20 PM
@MattS. You'd have to share! =)
 
7:30 PM
@J.Musser If it ever happens :P The problem is that once kids come around, large, potentially dangerous pets are the first to go.
I met a guy who used to have all sorts of snakes, some poisonous, all had to leave once he had a baby.
 
@MattS. A guy had a baby? How disturbing. :)
 
What you didn't hear? It was pretty impressive. :p
 
@MattS. Hmm.
Not too impressive to me.
 
7:49 PM
@MattS. I have a dark sense of humor. Don't mind me. :)
 
8:01 PM
@J.Musser No worries
The problem with renting a house now, is that I want to start building an awesome garden, but then I can't take it with me when I move in a few years.
 
@MattS. Start a mortgage.:)
By the way, here Is the question where I identified the false strawberries by comment. (like I thought I did) :)
 
The problem is I don't want to invest too much into the house since I don't actually own it.
 
@MattS. But you will own it at some point.
 
@J.Musser Nope, just renting.
I have a landlord that owns it.
 
@MattS. I meant if you were paying a mortgage.
@MattS. That's what landlords tend to do...
...own houses, that is.
 
8:11 PM
Ah yeah, if I owned a house I'd have no problem with planting things. I'd just be complaining about not having enough space. :P
 
@MattS. You could get something real cheap (like under $300,000) out of pocket, and fix it up some. It'd be an investment, but you could build from there.
 
@J.Musser Actually housing market in the midwest, I could get a pretty decent house for $100K, but but the problem is selling it in 2-3 years, I didn't want to be tied down.
 
@MattS. You could rent it out. If you did a good fix-up, you'd get quite an income.
 
I considered that. I almost bought a duplex, but I'm planning on moving up a few states, so It would be hard to rent out. I'd have to get a property manager or someone in town to watch it, and then it's not so profitable.
 
@MattS. Yeah, you'll probably not want to invest in too many trees and things, then.
 
8:32 PM
@J.Musser Yeah, I'm probably going to be leaving the one blueberry bush that will be too tall to take with. And most of the raspberry and blackberry bushes.
But I should be able to split the raspberries/blackberries before I leave and regrow them.
The blueberry bush was called a kabluey blueberry, so I couldn't resist getting it anyways.
 
@MattS. Kabluey is one of Gurneys biggest products. Great bush.
 

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