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05:39
Hi everyone! The following question is an "assertion and reason type question" from the chapter gravitation:
The answer is both statements are correct and statement 2 is a correct explanation of statement 1.
I wanted to know whether are there any hidden assumptions in this question, like the inclusion of air resistance or local gravity variations in different places on planet earth.
I assume they mean you to ignore air resistance and local variations in gravity. The variation the question mentions would just be the variation with height due to the 1/r^2 law.
Ok sir. But they say the velocity is not very large. Doesn't that mean the height attained by the projectile is not comparable to the radius of earth?
Yes. Presumably they mean you to ignore the curvature of the Earth's surface.
Ok sir. Do you remember having a conversation with someone else, regarding projectiles with non-uniform acceleration? If so, could you direct me to that specific transcript, if possible? Google wasn't helpful in this regard. Or maybe even specific keywords would help.
If we were not allowed to neglect the curvature of earth, then I think we can't decompose the velocity components into vertical and horizontal parts as the reference frame itself rotates about the earth's cenrtre.
@GuruVishnu I don't remember I'm afraid.
05:49
Ok sir. No problem. Thank you!
@GuruVishnu yes, it gets complicated if you cannot neglect the curvature. The trajectory is then an ellipse not a parabola and you have to account for the Earth rotating underneath the particle as it moves.
@GuruVishnu id say that even if you have a small velocity, and even a small height of projection, the acceleration definitely varies. The variation is quite small, but not zero. so the path will be extremely close to a parabolic one, but will not be exactly a parabola
But that would be more advanced than the JEE would ask.
@JohnRennie Ok sir. A small clarification, is the trajectory an ellipse even though the trajectory isn't a complete orbit around earth? If so how can the earth's COM be at one of the foci as per Kepler's first law?
@satan29 Thank you. Sounds reasonable. Maybe that's what we're expected to reason.
@GuruVishnu yes, thats what i thought
05:54
@GuruVishnu Outside a sphere the gravitational field is the same as it would be from a point source at the centre of the sphere i.e. Newton's shell theorem. Yes?
Yes sir. So are you saying that still, Kepler's first law is valid but before the orbit gets completed the particle bombards with the earth?
Yes, exactly.
Ok sir. Thank you!
06:43
Hi! Can anyone explain Davisson–Germer experiment to me? Like how do electrons show diffraction pattern there? I know about wave particle duality but how is the experiment similar (or different?) from the one with light(single slit)?
@HrishabhNayal hi.
The Davisson–Germer experiment shone a beam of electrons onto a metal surface.
Each atom on that surface reflected some electrons, so each metal atom on the surface behaved like a point source of electrons.
So in effect the metal surface was behaving like a diffraction grating behaves when you shine light on it, and the reflected electron intensity showed a diffraction pattern.
@JohnRennie Oh alright
@JohnRennie one more thing why did they design their equipment to detect only elastically reflected electrons?
The wavelength depends on the electron energy. If they included inelastically scattered electrons they'd be receiving electrons with a range of energies and therefore a range of wavelengths
All those different wavelengths would produce overlapping diffracton patterns and the result would be a smeared out mess.
It would be like trying to do a Young's slits experiment with white light instead of a single wavelength.
06:58
@JohnRennie Oh I get it
@JohnRennie Thanks for the help :-)
 
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08:10
@JohnRennie Are you free to answer a question?
@Ohw I'm just answering another question, but I should be free soon.
 
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12:18
@DavidZ hi :-)
 
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@FakeMod This part was already included before the edit. Sir answered the previous part in the chat.
Moreover her answer is wrong as "It is not that field penetrates into the sphere. This is the way of representation of direction of field"
user434058
17:31
@Bhavay I concur.
Here answer was even before out of context.
I can show it to you if you want ?
user434058
@Bhavay That doesn't really give you the power to change the question to invalidate the existing answers, however, in this case, sincethe existing answer is not a good one, we can ignore the policy as of now :-)
user434058
@Bhavay Nah. No need :-)
Thank you.
user434058
No worries :-)

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