I'm falling asleep, but @AlexanderRossa @Niitaku my personal feeling is, the specific workplace details are perhaps not a good thing in that question, unless we want a question like that for every type of workplace?
I think, it's not necessarily all about getting a perfect tailor made answer for the OP - the post should be useful to others in the future etc... but I should read it again, probably I am wrong
@Zanna @Niitaku I felt that the question could be made more specific by adding those details and that they would influence what the answers would be like - it is much different to influence what your workplace offers if it is a big company than if it is a small one.
But perhaps you are right that it would introduce a lot of similar questions for every type of workplace - on the other hand, my understanding was that Stack Exchange sort of encouraged fine-grained and specific questions so I suggested to specify these things. :)
@Niitaku I am quite good, thanks :) Comment ca va? :)
@Zanna well, point out to the people who vote for closing them that they are specific and different and vote not to close them.. it will all ultimately be decided by the community
Also, as indicated here stackoverflow.blog/2010/11/…, duplication is not always that bad an generally what I saw on Stack Overflow was what Jeff mentions - questions that, although duplicates, covering most common permutations of the question and each having their specific and good answers - that is the sort of duplication I can get behind
@AlexanderRossa sure duplicates are good not bad... but hmm how it plays out in practice in my experience is, you need a pretty solid justification to avoid dupe-closure (close voting has a certain momentum) and once a question is closed, it usually rather dies. So I'm wondering if we should put something in the title... like "how can I get my workplace (a large company)..." but idk
Maybe I should stop worrying about the problem that has not happened :)
@RamonMelo it's really up to you whether you want to answer or not, but I would honestly encourage you to write your comment up into an answer. It is certainly good enough
I have an adblocker, maybe that's why. But it only makes everything worse, then. The website is basically a search engine hijacking Google results and trying to milk ad revenue.
I won't assume the worst, but I have downvoted just to grey it out, I'll remove it if it happened to be a mistake. I tried not to be so harsh in my comments, but I'm really clueless about how to deal with it.
@Zanna ok thanks for the link, I'll check it. and then also, yes, I use "he", I recognize myself as a male human, and I'm not attached to "traditional" genders..
Summarizing as best as I can: here, there are some state-funded universities (such as mine), and some private-owned but state-subsidized universities, and people have to compete for a chance to enroll in one of those without having to afford really expensive tuition fees. Our goal is to level the field: to have socially marginalized people stand a chance against middle-class/rich kids who have prepared all their lives to take these tests and excel.
@Zanna Thanks! It means a lot to me coming from you, really! I asked last year students to come visit us and take a picture, I'll show you them when they arrive
@DavidS Yeah, it's a bit complex to explain... we don't actually exclude anyone from joining us but, at the same time, upper-class students don't really feel inclined to seek us. Speaking only for myself, getting to college was never at risk for me. Worst case scenario, my family would afford my studies and I'd eventually pay them back, interest-free (if they'd accept, which I don't think they would).
At the project, I often see the opposite: getting to college was never an option to many of them, they are only here because they want to at least try once before giving up.
This mindset is terrible by itself: we have a team dedicated exclusively to make them believe in themselves.
@Zanna Here, we have a Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/purubemalves/?hc_ref=PAGES_TIMELINE (I don't think you'll understand anything, but at least we got pictures)
@RamonMelo Yeah I bet, even hope is something that some of them might just never have entertained the idea of.
I was fortunate that I didn't have to pay tuition fees because my family were below some financial threshold but I only did a year of university and then left because I didn't enjoy it.
And now I'm back at one ;)
Though, as I understand it, my progress is likely to be limited without having a degree, which is interesting.
@DavidS Here, the system is just disgusting: you either pay full tuition, or it's free. Family income doesn't matter. There are several studies showing that, the highest your family income, the lowest you pay, on average (since you are more likely to get subsidized). I have never paid a dime for my college education, not even when I became a visiting student at UBC.
@DavidS I think talent and work ethics still hold a lot of value, and none of them are taught (or even recognized) in college.
I work in IT Services in Platform Engineering which means we provision servers and things like that, and I've heard (though I can't be sure it was accurate) would need a degree to be considered for roles in the grade above.
@DavidS Well, in theory, the bar is the same for everyone. In practice, I've been trained to take those access tests since I was 4. By the time I was 17 and actually took them, I had over 12 years of preparation.
@Zanna Yes, last year results have just come in (hence the parabéns)! I'm still grabbing the data, but I believe we have 30+ of them approved for subsidies already.
@RamonMelo I don't think anything is off-topic in this room. You should see the junk we talk about in Ask Ubuntu General Room :D I loved hearing about your work
@DavidS really? what do they put in there? I only eat it from Planet Organic etc - definitiely vegan
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