Say, how much did the JS actually change?

I'm trying it on my phone right now

When I look at the front page of the 'full site' interface on my iPhone, it pauses a little bit right after the page loads

It seems pretty responsive on actual question pages

But furigana now renders properly on my iPhone

@Anthony I thought of another example to explain performative utterances

I was remembering how you had trouble understanding the usage of 礼を言う

So I thought of this English example: when you say "I refuse", you're actually refusing by saying those words

Just like how you welcome someone by saying the word "Welcome!"

So that's like in Japanese, when you say 断る！

By saying 断る, you are actually 断るing

I thought that parallel might be easier to understand :-)

And Tsuyoshi Ito posted on meta!

I'm happy to see that some of our more knowledgeable users are still around :-)

Oops, had to edit the URL to http :-)

I make browsers not do that

But I can't make chat not do that.

Well, I suppose technically I could :-)

Done

Heheh

@DariusJahandarie They might find it easier to participate in Japanese than English, depending on what their native language is

Yeah

I wouldn't be able to explain that sentence any more simply in Japanese, myself

I guess I could make it more complicated... :-)

Now it has a close vote under "We don't do translations"

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@DariusJahandarie I use attributive as a purely syntactic concept in the discussion of English

Prenominal is unfortunately easily confused with pronominal

@DariusJahandarie It's worse than that―what's the difference between apposition and adposition?

They both have ad-!

But it's only assimilated in the former.

And of course, although they both have the same literal meaning, they're used differently.

In Japanese, people use 同格 'apposition' to describe the copular use of の, as in 学生の太郎, which is of course not traditionally considered a separate word from genitive の, and they also use it to describe the pronominal apposition construction as in 「われわれ日本人」

Hey, it's a prenominal pronominal!

Whereas an adposition is generally either a preposition or a postposition

Linguistics has too many terms.

@DariusJahandarie Attributive and predicative is a natural pair for adjectives. 赤いリンゴ and リンゴが赤い

I guess adnominal and conclusive work just as well

When I use adnominal for 連体, I naturally want to use adverbial for 連用

And then I feel like I'm going to cause confusion between 副詞 and 連用修飾語

I haven't settled on a set of terms I'm totally happy with

Martin uses adnominal everywhere

And his term for 連体詞 is adnoun

It's the class of word whose main function is 連用修飾

I used to wonder why it wasn't 連用詞

Well, they do have other functions

They modify other 副詞

And 副詞 aren't 用言

And they can in some cases be adnominalized and modify other kinds of 体言

> 「主として文の成分上連用修飾語に用いられる」といわれるのは、「もっとゆっくり歩け」のように、他の副詞を修飾したり、「やや東の方」のように、体言を修飾したり、「い‌​ったい、誰がそんな事を言い出したのか」のように、下にくる文全体を修飾することがあるからである。

(日本文法大辞典, p.720)

Um, let me double-check that I typed that right

:-)

That's what I get for distracting myself!

So they list 3 other uses, modifying another adverb, modifying a nominal, and modifying the following sentence as a whole

None of which are modifying a 用言

I don't know.

Martin lists a number of uses of sentential adverbs

"adverbs of SENTENTIAL RELATION or modality―such as assertion (and prediction), prohibition or refusal, doubt, conjecture, desire, supposition, comparison."

He includes どうしても・かならず・かならずしも・きっと・さすが・果たして・まったく in that category

He lists a lot of them!

Many of them he notes are also in other categories, like まったく (which is also in the degree category)

It looks like he lists about 50 of them