Thanks for the edit as I had copied/pasted from my WordPad doc. and it was jumbled up somewhat. The footnote relates to the 3td paragraph. I am new to posting and starting a web site as well. I should add a statement about John 12:1-12 , in relation to the sign of Jonah . I had looked at this passage before but decided not to include it in the study. John 12:1 says Jesus arrived in Bethany 6 days before passover. Some might jump to the wrong conclusion in counting 6 days from the supper in verse 2 which was Saturday night as verse 12 makes clear. Most likely Jesus and His disciples did not tra

...vel much on the sabbath and were in Bethany before the sabbath began Friday evening. Friday during daylight hours was the 8th of Nissan and 6 days before passover on the 14th. We are not told that they(Martha) made Jesus a supper the evening He arrived. The time of arrival and the time of supper are not stated to occur on the same day. John 12:1-12 does not contradict my view on the sign of Jonah unless one jumps to conclusions on time from verse 1 to verse 12.

Thanks also to Jack Douglas for adding my comment in the right place. I was not registered at the time I tried to add. I will try to continue and refine my answer about the sign of Jonah on my web site. I think it is an important 3 days to get right. If it proves to stand as true understanding then perhaps it may help convince the Jews one day. I hope someone will challenge my view based on Exodus 12:15-20 as being contradictory. I do have an answer but just can not put everything in footnotes right now. Thanks again.

Ex 12:17 seems pretty clear that Passover and the feast of unleavened bread are the same. I've not previously heard an interpretation that the Passover meal is on the 14th as you have here; I'm not seeing that in the text and it's counter to actual practice. Can you say more about that?

Exodus 12:17 says the feast of unleavened bread. This not the same feast as passover. Feast of Unleavened Bread is to observe the day the Lord led Israel out of Egypt. The day they traveled was after Passover had occurred. See Lev. 23:5-6 for the 14th as passover and the 15th as Feast of Unleavened Bread. This is not the verse that I think some would say contradicts my view of a Good Thursday instead of a Good Friday. But you are close. Thanks for looking. I think you see the importance of getting the day Jesus died correct.

@DWT, actually, it looks like Lev 23:5-6 supports my reading, not yours. "On the 14th at dusk" is Passover and "on the 15th day" is the feast of unleavened bread, raising the question: does the former mean "dusk going into the 14th" or "the end of the 14th, at dusk"? (The day begins at nightfall, but dusk is an ambiguous time.) But Ex. 12:17 says it was the "selfsame day", supporting "end of 14th, at dusk, going into the festival on the 15th". As for what day of the week any of that was, that's a separate question that depends on what year we think this happened.

@MonicaCellio :Ex.12:17 says the same day I brought you out of Egypt. It is not saying I brought you out of Egypt on passover the 14th but that the Feast of Unleavened Bread is to observe the day I brought you out of Egypt on the 15th. Passover is an evening memorial meal for when the angel of death passed over those in Egypt. I covered the meaning of twilight as being between the evenings in the study and there were some disputes over which evening was the right time to eat. But passover is on the 14th and not on the 15th no matter which evening you set down and eat.

@MonicaCellio :At the start of the study I stated that there are not two nights between Friday night and Sunday morning. You had noticed this yourself. It is the darkness that shows the light. The Bible shows what day of the week and that is my source of focus. I do not think you will find any man made calendar as accurate or trustworthy as God's plan revealed through His people and feasts in these passages. It is a complex study and maybe I am not very clear but thanks for your comments.

@DWT, according to Exodus the meal was the same day as the angel of death passed over their houses, which was the same day as leaving Egypt, all of which occurred after night-fall. That's all one day in the Jewish calendar, even though it spanned two secular-calendar days. From these texts that day seems to pretty clearly be the 15th, not the 14th (and that's certainly how the rabbis understood it). They slaughtered the lamb during the day on the 14th, but they didn't eat it until that night, which was the 15th. (Lambs are pretty big; they take a while to cook.)

@MonicaCellio Thursday night is passover the 14th? Kill the lamb, put blood over the doors ,the destroyer comes through at midnight still on the 14th, pharaoh's son dies and he lets them go. It is still night of the 14th, 1 million people load up all booty/belongings and livestock and leave out, verses Ex.12:29-41, ? It is still the 14th unless Moses switched to a Greek calendar. Ex. 12:17 says and Lev.23:6 says the 15th is the day they were led out? That would be Friday evening the 15th. And this timing doesn't work as you still have not found the third night with a Thursday night passover.

@DWT, no, I'm saying all that happened on the 15th, starting at the beginning of the day (nightfall) with the blood on the doorposts and eating of the meal, then a few hours later the last plague and Paro kicking Israel out, and them leaving by morning (not sure exactly when they left, but within hours, not another whole day later). The festival is on the 15th, aligning with that final, hurried meal in Egypt.

As for days of the week, I'm not saying anything. I'm only talking about the timing of Passover and its associated observances. Passover already existed at the time of the gospels and I'm not aware of anyone saying Jesus moved it, so the gospel account has to be consistent with the calendar, not the other way around.