@JosephWright I was thinking the same

@barbarabeeton You have mentioned this before on chat, I believe. It has cured me of any ambition to try contributing to the wikibook. I should be grateful – as I get older, time is becoming progressively more precious.

quack

@DavidCarlisle oh no

@PauloCereda We have been thinking way too complicated. See my last edit here ;)

@TeXnician WOW

Damn this software :)

@PauloCereda Well, I guess it would be easier if it was obvious that everything there is a Java object :D

@TeXnician it's possible to use full qualified classes, so java.io.File works. :)

@TeXnician ooh :)

@PauloCereda Well yes, but it's clear that it is a file from the docs (no need for fqn). But I still do not expect working with a file object if I just edit some plain text embedded in YAML which can be swapped with strings everywhere I can use it…

@TeXnician oh I mean we can access any arbitrary class from the Java stack provided we use the full qualified name. :)

@PauloCereda Oh, really? I thought you provided some restrictions. That way arara can easily be used to execute any arbitrary system command…

@TeXnician Sadly I don't think the restrictions can be explicitly imposed. :(

@TeXnician and yes, arara is a can of worms. :)

@PauloCereda and the early bird gets it

@PauloCereda Yeah, that's actually a problem...

@yo' It seems to be on Paulo's issue tracker for a future version ;)

or should i better make a question for this?

@HaraldHanche-Olsen ooh

@yo' @TeXnician we are working on it. :)

@PauloCereda Are you? :D

@TeXnician no :)

@PauloCereda ^^ newly in TikZducks manual :)

@yo' ooh

PAID CONTENT

:D

@PauloCereda the footnote says: "added to celebrate that TikZducks are now also available on overleaf, see overleaf.com/blog/tex-live-upgrade-september-2019";

@yo' :)

@PauloCereda however, funnily enough, \duck[overleaf] is not available on Overleaf itself...

@yo' oopsie :)

@yo' checking the new doc as we speak. :)

@UlrikeFischer, @yo' ^^ this is brilliant

@PauloCereda The best option! :)

@mickep Claude Rains would be proud. :)

@PauloCereda The invisible duck (2019), soon in a theater near you!

@mickep ooh

@PauloCereda :)

Wow, there's a lot of new options!

@PauloCereda menuduck?

@DavidCarlisle oh no

@DavidCarlisle there's the chef one. :)

@PauloCereda that chef probably doesn't do roast duck, unfortunately

@DavidCarlisle oh no

@JosephWright confused about state of auto deployment, I don't see any deploy keys in latex2e/.travis.yml but there are release zip files here? github.com/latex3/latex2e/releases

don't we have a package that can write stuff to the aux so it can be reused on the next pass? I have a length that needs to be reused at the start of the toc. I'd done this by hand in the past, but that might be oldfashined

@daleif I don't think so just do \immediate\write\@auxout{whatever}

@DavidCarlisle hmm, I would have almost bet on it. Oh well, I;ll jut copy some old stuff then

@DavidCarlisle That's ... weird

@JosephWright ah they are from develop (which has deploy keys)

@JosephWright so for a PL2 make locally or update .travis.yml on master?

@DavidCarlisle Ah, right

@DavidCarlisle Hmm, it wasn't just the .yml file: I'd be minded to build locally. I'd imagined that we'd switch for the 2020 release

@JosephWright Ok, which leads to the question are we done for PL2...

looks like that's base, graphics grffile, oberdiek and iftex to release this evening:(

@DavidCarlisle Yes, I think so

@barbarabeeton twitter.com/opentype/status/1191701231523250177

@PauloCereda -- Lovely! Thanks.

@barbarabeeton :)

is it possible to format the numbers of an axis in a tikz plot with \si (or in this case \num)? or is it maybe possible to specify a different 1000 separator?

@sollniss tex.stackexchange.com/search?q=pgfplots+siunitx+%5Cnum

@UlrikeFischer i found tex.stackexchange.com/questions/286073/… right after asking here

searched the wrong things

typical xy problem

@StefanKottwitz I apologize to you and all the moderators for some of the wrong flagships. A very dear greeting from Sicily. Here there are still many tourists who go to the beach. Temperatures are summery.

@JosephWright PL2 gone out but I think CTAN team have a life and have gone to bed:-)

@JosephWright I'll hold back oberdiek+grffile until I know the PL2 uploads have been accepted

@DavidCarlisle Not if you're in UTC-3 or if you have a dissertation to write :-)

@DavidCarlisle :)

@DavidCarlisle Good plan

@PhelypeOleinik but the ctan team are all an hour ahead of me so it's tomorrow already

@DavidCarlisle More fun than some other topics

@DavidCarlisle Ah, CTAN. Wrong team

@JosephWright had to do something while waiting for oberdiek/mkctan to trundle to the end.

@DavidCarlisle Get it set up for deployment ;)

@JosephWright no I have a better plan (grffile test case this time) shred it into bite size pieces.

@JosephWright although if I get a minute I may try to retire my mkctan bash script and switch to l3build (would mean testing that tds mapping facility that you added)

@DavidCarlisle :)

@DavidCarlisle Sounds like fun

@JosephWright although actually I think in most cases once it is cut into small distributions the l3build in each case will be trivial as each package is usually either latex or generic or plain, it is the combination of all the different types that made l3build tricky as it couldn't guess the final locations.

@DavidPurton Nice to meet you! Actually we have much greater uptake of LaTeX now than in the past as tools like Overleaf make collaborative editing (much) easier than writing in Word. But with greater uptake means more training needed :)