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12:00 AM
@PauloCereda Very nice. The nests are just amazing.
 
@AlanMunn Indeed. They have a very intricate structure. :)
 
 
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1:27 AM
@Martinscharre: Thanks, I will get it.
 
 
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3:25 AM
@AlanMunn: I added some answer for MiKTeX. Can you pl. suggest modifications/ improve it.
 
 
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leo
4:51 AM
Is there a way to hide all the tikzpicture but show the space that they need? something like the draft option for document classes
 
 
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6:32 AM
@leo: you can put the tikz picture into figure environment and use graphicx with draft option.:)
 
6:52 AM
@HarishKumar draft only affects images included with \includegraphics (and it makes no difference if it is in a figure environment or not).
 
@AlanMunn great answer to the 'Update... ' question. I usually use tlmgr update --self --all , which is just a tiny bit different from what you've written (the -- are in different places)
 
7:47 AM
I've added a few more details and some headings to tex.stackexchange.com/questions/55437/…
 
@JosephWright looks great! You've used -- in the same way that I do (which the original answer didn't)
 
@cmhughes I think the confusion arises at the TL options are set up in a non-standard way (most Gnu-like *nix tools expect foo --option parameter)
 
@JosephWright ah, ok
@JosephWright I noticed that the answer doesn't mention anything about sudo or else something like sudo chown -R cmhughes /usr/local/texlive/2011 ... do you think it should?
 
I've edited the FAQ to link to the new question, rather than have the partial advice we had before
@cmhughes Would be worth editing in
You have to watch the fact that sudo may not have the same path as a 'normal' user!
On my set up, sudo is fine on the Mac but Ubuntu needs the path to tlmgr. For Windows it's easiest to simply run Command Prompt with elevated privileges (runas is not something most people know)
 
@JosephWright great, I was hoping for that...
@JosephWright yes, totally agree, which is why I think it might be worth mentioning the sudo
@JosephWright which faq? do you mean tex.stackexchange.com/faq
 
7:54 AM
@cmhughes I'll see what I can do :-) Give me a few minutes to do some testing
@cmhughes Yes
 
@JosephWright I've found that on Ubuntu it's easier just to use chown to change it to my own user name, otherwise I have to open a root shell
 
@cmhughes Well, its CW so edit it in :-)
 
@JosephWright fair point, will do :)
 
8:13 AM
@AlanMunn: Sometimes you have to set the repository explicit. In this case tlmgr option location CTAN is the easiest way.
 
We need a Cygwin user to write something for that set up
I'm also hoping Ulrike will check what I've put about MiKTeX and Admin privileges
Other distros? Anyone using KerTeX?
w32tex?
 
@JosephWright Never even heard about it.
 
I still can't get it to compile on my Mac
 
@JosephWright I think the big distributions are enough, at least at first.
 
@MartinScharrer Right, next I guess is TL on Windows using the GUI
 
8:21 AM
@JosephWright Is the post about updating the packages or the distribution, e.g. TL10->TL11, MK2.8->MK2.9 etc.?
 
@MartinScharrer I've interpreted is as 'TL10 and Tl12 are two different distributions (you can install both), so it's about for example updating TL11 to the latest available packages'.
 
@JosephWright Yes, but sometimes people have older installation, like the TL'07 guy this week, and then an distribution update is required.
So, the question is, should we have a different question for installing / updating a distribution?
@JosephWright: Also, would a general tag be reasonable for such questions?
 
@MartinScharrer Sounds okay to me
 
8:41 AM
@JosephWright Done. Added a small tag wiki entry as well.
 
@JosephWright: I found the following post. tex.stackexchange.com/questions/50111/… Is there a LaTeX3 solution?
 
@MarcoDaniel Currently no, as we've not needed to programme the sort of string tests that this requires
 
@JosephWright Thanks. I will try to create one ;-)
 
@MarcoDaniel Checking for numbers in great generality is (not) surprisingly difficult. Maybe l3regex can turn out to be convenient.
 
8:57 AM
@egreg I am trying something like \tl_set:Nx \l_tmpa_tl { #1} % full expanded argument 1
 
@MarcoDaniel I'd prefer \tl_set:Nf that's more similar to what \number does.
And in my answer I've warned against something like \textbf{1} which would break any \edef-based solution.
 
@egreg I read this ;-) Here is a pseudo code which shows my intention:
\prg_new_conditional:Npnn \tl_if_number:N #1 { p , T , F , TF }
{
\tl_set:Nf \l_tmpa_tl { #1} % full expanded argument 1
 \if_meaning:w \tex_count:D \l_tmpa_tl
       \prg_return_false:
 \else
     \prg_return_true:
 \fi
}
I know this doesn't work
 
9:16 AM
@MarcoDaniel Try this one
\usepackage{xparse,l3regex}
\ExplSyntaxOn
\prg_new_conditional:Npnn \tl_if_number:n #1 { p , T , F , TF }
 {
  \regex_match:nfTF {\A -*? \d+\Z} { #1 } { \prg_return_true: } { \prg_return_false: }
 }
\cs_generate_variant:Nn \regex_match:nnTF {nf}
I get the correct result even when the argument passed is \textbf{1} (not a number)
 
@egreg Thanks. I will add this to a complete example and show my result.
 
@DavidCarlisle I understand why you want an example for the processkv question, but you won't get one. As I've said to others, if you don't feel you can help with it then just walk away: the message might eventually get across!
 
@MarcoDaniel The regex matches zero or more occurrences of a minus sign followed by one or more digits. And it must be the whole token list, since it starts with \A and ends with \Z
 
@egreg Here the complete example:
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{xparse,l3regex}
\ExplSyntaxOn
\prg_new_conditional:Npnn \tl_if_number:n #1 { p , T , F , TF }
 {
  \regex_match:nfTF {\A -*? \d+\Z} { #1 } { \prg_return_true: } { \prg_return_false: }
 }
\cs_generate_variant:Nn \regex_match:nnTF {nf}

\cs_new:Npn \int_to_day:n #1
{
\prg_case_int:nnn
    {  \int_mod:nn { #1 } { 7 }   }
   {
     { 1 } {Mo}
     { 2 } {Tue}
     { 3 } {Wed}
     { 4 } {Thu}
     { 5 } {Fri}
     { 6 } {Sat}
     { 0 } {Son}
   }
  {error}
}

\NewDocumentCommand \weekday { m }
;-)
It would be nice if \textbf{3} worked too ;-)
 
@MarcoDaniel It depends on what applications you have in mind. If the number is given explicitly (not buried in a macro), you can strip off macros and braces from the token list with another regex and then perform the test on the result.
 
9:34 AM
@egreg At the moment I have nothing in mind ;-) Tonight I thought about a package that will compute the day of a special date. On the other hand I think about switching some internals of mdframed to LaTeX3. ;-) You see at the moment it's like a game ;-)
 
@MarcoDaniel Why setting \tl_tmpa_tl? Just \tl_if_number:nTF {#1}{\int_to_day:n {#1}}{Not~a~number}} is sufficient.
 
@egreg fixed
 
@JosephWright " David is looking at the parcolumns documentation" me, read documentation? no, didn't even read the source in this case (which would be more likely) I just guessed that the first column would be numbered 1 :-)
 
@DavidCarlisle :-)
I think the issue with the OP is that he's used to other programming languages, and rather than learn how TeX works wants TeX to somehow magically work the way he's used to. For example, on the columns question he's just gone 'index from 0' without thinking that as a author/designer you don't think of columns 0, 1, ... but rather columns 1, 2, ...
 
9:57 AM
@JosephWright C has a lot to answer for. Half my working life is spent generating C (0 based) documentation from Fortran (1-based) documentation. It's a pain in the neck but sufficiently complicated I think my job is safe:-)
 
10:07 AM
Hi guys!
 
10:22 AM
I have a TeX question:
I have a preamble which I'd like to put into every file I am going to write.
How is this done?
Will someone please help me?
 
@KannappanSampath Just write your common preamble in a file mypreamble.tex and say \input{mypreamble}. You can put mypreamble.tex in a directory searched by TeX (where precisely depends on your operating system and TeX distribution).
However, I warn you against doing this. You end up accumulating things in mypreamble.tex that may be useless in some document (and also potential compatibility issues).
 
@egreg Oh, thank you very much. I have lectures on finite fields on Monday. So, I am gearing up for Live TeXing!
@egreg I see. I don't know how to do Live TeXing then! I am looking forward to having all the fonts at one place. And things like that.
And, is it advisable to have also my document class in the common preamble? Given that I am going to do this only for one course--14 lectures and I'll hope to become better with this stuff later.
 
10:37 AM
Is there a limitation of the file extension in LaTeX? E.g. @DavidCarlisle used tocA. Can I also use toxAnnexFOO?
 
@KannappanSampath That's possible, but I usually prefer to have the \documentclass line in the document. Some editors rely on the information about some loaded package to set up themselves (Emacs, for instance, looks for inputenc and babel).
@MarcoDaniel The only limitations are set by the operating system.
 
@egreg I guess Unix has no limitation ;-)
 
@MarcoDaniel No, but DOS has. :)
And a limitation there is, actually: the extension mustn't be empty.
 
@MarcoDaniel mainly there is a limitation to my typing skills
@MarcoDaniel if you always use the latex file writing commands (and we always remembered) latex doesn't assume that the "extension" is made by concatenating name . and extension there were operating systems (weird mainframes and archimedes as I recall) that didn't really like file extensions and used a syntax something like [ext]name so the extension was more like a directory.
there is some funky code at format making time that tries to figure out the file name syntax or you can specify it by putting weird definitions in texsys.cfg before the format is made
 
10:53 AM
@DavidCarlisle First time I read about texsys.cfg.
 
@MarcoDaniel you mean you've never seen latex output \typeout{^^JDefining VMS style filename parser.^^J} what a quiet life you must lead:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle ;-)
 
@DavidCarlisle :-) What about Textures that allowed TeX files to have no extension?
 
@egreg \typeout{^^JDefining Mac style filename parser.^^J}
@egreg Art Ogawa sent in 1001 bug reports at the time to make sure the graphics system didn't force you to have extensions (which is a major reason why there is a type= key) as he was a big textures user
 
11:14 AM
Wow, it's raining a lot today.
 
@DavidCarlisle It was a nice project indeed; they lost themselves in the "Flash mode".
@PauloCereda We are expecting heavy storms, too. :(
 
@egreg Ouch. :( Not a good way of starting the weekend. :(
 
@PauloCereda The important fact is weekend. So it's equal whether the sun is shining or it rains ;-)
 
@MarcoDaniel Would you go biking when it's raining heavily? :(
 
@MarcoDaniel :P
 
11:17 AM
@egreg No really-- but I don't need to work
 
I once saw a friend of mine biking while it was heavily raining. He was holding an umbrella with one hand, and holding one side of handlebars with the other hand and also with a bread bag. When he passed by me, I waved at him. He just looked at me and said, "Paulo, if I greet you, I'm dead!" :P
 
11:38 AM
Thank you @egreg. Bye folks.
 
12:27 PM
New tlmgr translation sent! Woohoo! :D
 
12:54 PM
Good, stolen an answer to David. :)
 
@egreg Was it a Tikz one? David loves TikZ. :D
 
@PauloCereda No, the one on coloring a row in an array; he usually likes those where \noalign is the neatest tool. Which gave me rep cap. :)
 
@egreg Already?! :D
@egreg: I remembered the "Tools/Ferramentas" translation we were talking the other day. There was a funny episode of me trying to avoid English expressions in an article. I try to avoid any buzzwords (CS has a lot), but I had to mention the word framework. It's an English term which I don't like, so I used the Portuguese translation, which no one around here uses it: "arcabouço". It was funny when the reviewer wrote his/her considerations: "Are you a linguist?!". :P
And he/she added "-1 for making me look at the dictionary!" :P
 
1:11 PM
@egreg I have to eat sometimes
 
@PauloCereda Nice word!
 
@egreg oh well you needed the points (I got cap ages ago:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle Do you call "two minutes" ages? :)
@PauloCereda I'm wondering about the etymology of arcabouço
 
Hold on. :) I'll get my faithful dictionary. :)
"Dicionário Houaiss da Língua Portuguesa"
arcabouço 1. esqueleto, armação dos ossos do corpo humano ou de qualquer animal. 2. ossatura do tórax, arca do peito. 3. delineamento inicial, esboço, madeirame (arcabouço de uma pintura, de um romance). 4. estrutura (de madeira, de ferro, etc.). 5. armação de uma máquina, carcaça. 6. fig. capacidade para produzir, criar, etc.; preparo, envergadura (falta-lhe arcabouço para tanto). ETIM: arca + el. de orig. obsc.
"elemento de origem obscura". :P
"element of an obscure source". :P
 
@egreg definitely:-)
 
1:24 PM
@PauloCereda Well, I can understand "elemento de origem obscura". :) Strange how the Latin "originem" became "origine" in Italian and "origem" in Portuguese, but you have many "-em" words, I believe.
 
@egreg Indeed. :)
 
@PauloCereda But it may be a false path: in Spanish it's "origen". A number of Spanish words in "-en" have "-em" in Portuguese.
 
@egreg That's true. :) Maybe Alan can help us here. :)
 
@PauloCereda For instance you say "uma", where Spanish and Italian have "una"
 
@egreg Ah yes. As far as I can remember, some purists of the language don't accept words ending with "n" as part of the Portuguese language, but nowadays we have quite a bunch of words ending with it.
 
2:12 PM
@DavidCarlisle: Are you a member of the LaTeX3 team?
 
@MarcoDaniel He is indeed, hence comments from my about getting the OR rewritten, etc.
 
@JosephWright Interesting ;-) I read the changes of readme.markdown and thought -- David? -- It's good to know.
 
2:27 PM
@egreg @PauloCereda Portuguese lost Latin /n/ and /l/ between vowels, I think, then there was regressive nasalisation of vowels preceding /m/ and /n/ (which were subsequently lost except in spelling.)
So 'originem' -> loses the intervocalic 'n' and then the final 'm' nasalises the 'e', leaving you with the current pronunciation [oʁiʒẽ] (roughly).
 
@AlanMunn Cool! I had no idea. :)
 
 
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3:54 PM
Wow! @Patrick's Lua solution to tex.stackexchange.com/questions/55526/… is way better than mine. Better bury my code before anyone sees it. :)
I feel like a little padawan. :)
 
Found two things that are absolutely amazing and need to be shared (1) Vivaldi by Cecilia Bartoli - the quality of the video/sound in this version are beyond amazing:
(2) My life and Hard Times by James Thurber (if ever you are in need for an absolutely carefree hour of laughs: Book:sanjuan.edu/webpages/rvolzer/files/… Missing pages: sanjuan.edu/webpages/rvolzer/files/…
 
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4:14 PM
@Ariel How are your chapters coming along?
 
@ClarkKent Not bad. Not good. I am on the verge of slight mental exhaustion - hence the diversion. :)
@ClarkKent Bartoli and Thurber never fail to rev me right up!
 
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@Ariel I usually listen to tenors and not sopranos. I like Jose Carreras, though his voice declined after his illness.
 
@ClarkKent o.O mariah carey == soprano.
 
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@Ariel Oh yes, she is one exception. There are always ... many ... exceptions!
 
@Ariel She is amazing! And Giovanni Antonini is quite a good director.
 
4:21 PM
I need to find some of Carreras work. I don't remember his voice though I have heard of him. Any recommendations?
@egreg I know, that particular concert blows my mind. Not a single note out of tune. She is like a precision instrument with so much emotion. I could replay the whole hour over and over!
 
user19161
 
@Ariel Once I heard her and her voice was not in the best shape. :( But usually she's great!
 
user19161
Although Carreras does not have too high a range, his voice is one of the most expressive ones.
 
@egreg I have heard she overstrains her voice because of too many concerts. she is always in insane demand everywhere
 
She was Zerlina in the Don Giovanni duet "Là ci darem la mano" at a recent Mozart celebration in Salzburg
 
4:25 PM
@PauloCereda Some more examples of the pattern (losing the /n/ and /l/): geral < generale, sair < salire, lua < luna, saúde < salute , ter < tenere
 
@ClarkKent Lovely! thanks! :) {I wish there was no English in the song though... somehow it clashes with his singing :p}
 
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@Ariel Haha, I like his English precisely because of the accent!
 
@AlanMunn :)
 
@ClarkKent Oops sorry, I meant the female lead in the song. :-)
 
@PauloCereda I threw in 'lua' to keep it completely on topic. :)
 
4:29 PM
@AlanMunn Wise move. :)
 
@Ariel I'm at the second Aria (from L'Olimpiade): really amazing!
Vivaldi was really demanding to his singers!
 
@egreg So dramatic! it gets better and better but yes its one of the best bits! I have no idea how Vivaldi imagined something like that - wild imagination, I guess.
 
@Ariel And is it almost two hours without reading a single note? :)
 
user19161
 
user19161
Enjoy Alfredo Kraus's high C's!
 
user19161
4:35 PM
His voice never declines even with age.
 
@egreg Pretty much. :-)
I have no idea who that ONE person was who disliked it. Some deaf bloke I am sure!
 
@egreg If you remember some time ago, there was a foreach loop problem and you provided a solution using etoolbox. I tried to imitate that but I guess I'm missing a detail. Can yo please have a look what's wrong with it?
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{etoolbox}
\usepackage{tikz}
\usetikzlibrary{matrix}

\let\mystyle\empty
\newcommand{\populatestyle}{%
  \foreach \c [count=\i] in {red, green, blue} {
    \begingroup\edef\x{\endgroup
       \noexpand\gappto\noexpand\mystyle{column \i/.style=\noexpand{\c\noexpand}, }}\x
    }%
}
\populatestyle

\begin{document}
\begin{tikzpicture}[\mystyle]
\matrix (m) [draw,matrix of nodes] {
 1 & 2 & 3 & 4 \\
 5 & 6 & 8 & 8 \\ };
\node[text width=7cm] at (0,3) {The content when expanded: \mystyle};
 
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@PauloCereda The guy in the picture looks like you!
 
@ClarkKent o.O
:P
 
4:46 PM
@percusse You have to expand \mystyle before \tikzpicture reads its argument: \begingroup\edef\x{\endgroup\noexpand\begin{tikzpicture}[\mystyle]}\x
 
"Brahms spell backwards Smharb!" I lol'd so much!!!!
 
@MarcoDaniel yes although I've been something of a sleeping partner in recent years:-)
 
@egreg Ah, I see it now.... but then there is no way to expand it inside a tikzpicture?
It's strange that we don't have a command \expand :)
 
@percusse There is \expanded which will appear in pdfTeX 1.50, if it ever appears
 
@percusse The optional argument is a list of options, not the bottle containing the list of options. :)
@JosephWright Promises! But Heiko's packages always give messages about \expanded not being available. Since several years, now. :)
 
4:52 PM
@egreg I know: he wrote the code for the primitive, I think
 
@JosephWright No rush, the world is going to end in the meantime :p
@egreg Thank you. I'll try to see if I can expand it somewhere earlier :)
 
\expand, \expand, \expand, \expand, \expand, \expand! Lovely \expand, wonderful \expand!
 
@ClaudioFiandrino Just as a remark to your edit to tex.stackexchange.com/questions/55536/…. We usually don't wrap "LaTeX" into backticks and neither do we capitalize the name of packages (write beamer instead of Beamer).
 
@PauloCereda I am not sure if this is a clever algorithm.
 
@PatrickGundlach I like it. :)
I usually write longer codes. Would you like to see my version?
It's only Lua tough.
 
5:03 PM
@egreg The \pgfkeys has an expanded assignment option which solved my problem: Adding \tikzset{mymatrix/.estyle={\mystyle}} assigns the list after expansion. And then I can use mymatrix as a style container. In case you were anxious to see a solution :)
 
@percusse Not too much. :)
 
@PauloCereda Sure, and tell me if you'd like to have any comments. Either here (but you have to wait a few minutes before I can comment (I have to read something to my son now)) or via e-mail at patrick@gundla.ch.
 
5:21 PM
@PatrickGundlach Sent. :) The code is quite big, so I attached to the email. :)
If anyone is interested, I can post it here too. :)
 
5:59 PM
Our Konrad Rudolph got elected as moderator on Skeptics.SE: skeptics.stackexchange.com/election
Congratulations!
 
 
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7:03 PM
I you would like to see a live stream from my job: aida.de - starting now.
 
@StefanKottwitz Zum Hafengeburtstag ;-)
 
Exactly! Four of our cruise ships are here.
 
@StefanKottwitz I read about it. I can visit the birthday. I am on call
 
making a rally :-)
a cruise ship triangle on the river Elbe
I'm supervising satellite and internet connections, mainly for the internet stream of the celebrations
 
7:21 PM
I wanna go on a ship.
So I can record my version of "We sail the ocean blue" from HMS Pinafore and send it to Alan for appreciation. :D
 
7:40 PM
 
\documentclass{article}

\begin{document}

\def\a{0.2}
\def\b{0.2}

\if\a\b
	Yay
\else
	Aw
\fi

\end{document}
 
@Jake Yup, you probably want \ifx
 
@JosephWright Ah yes, that works in this case. In my actual application, I'm comparing with a macro argument though:
\documentclass{article}

\begin{document}

\def\a{0.2}



\newcommand{\testcompare}[1]{
\ifx\a#1
	Yay
\else
	Aw
\fi
}

\testcompare{0.2}
\end{document}
 
@Jake You need to use two macros, so \def\@tempa{#1} then \ifx\a\@tempa (or similar)
 
@JosephWright Ah, cool! Thank you so much!
 
7:47 PM
@Jake You're comparing \a and 0, which are almost certainly different, unless you've said \let\a=0.
 
So the content of #1 doesn't stay as a unit, unlike the content of a proper macro?
 
@Jake #1 represents the actual argument as a list of tokens. TeX compares just the two tokens following \ifx
 
@egreg Okay, cool. Thank you!
 
8:01 PM
@JosephWright I couldn't get \fp_compare:nTF to work, ended up using \fp_compare:nNnTF. Is that a known bug?
 
@AndrewStacey It's new code, so may be buggy: example please?
 
I tried \fp_compare:nTF {\l_my_fp < \l_other_fp} {<true code>}{<false code>} but it complained vociferously (and the error message wasn't all that helpful!).
@Jake Not that I'm begging for votes, you understand, but ... I'm quite proud of my latest answer (@JosephWright you might find it interesting too).
 
@AndrewStacey Complete MWE, please :-)
@AndrewStacey Answer?
 
@JosephWright On the main site.
@JosephWright As it's not a known bug, I'll dig one out and post it (as I had to employ a workaround, I no longer have a MWE in my code).
 
@AndrewStacey Nice :-)
 
8:07 PM
@AndrewStacey Works fine:
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{expl3}
\begin{document}
\ExplSyntaxOn
\fp_new:N \l_my_fp
\fp_new:N \l_other_fp

\fp_set:Nn \l_my_fp {1}
\fp_set:Nn \l_other_fp {1}

\fp_compare:nTF {\l_my_fp < \l_other_fp} {TRUE}{FALSE}

\ExplSyntaxOff

foo
\end{document}
 
We have another N.N. :-O
N.N., Glasgow, United Kingdom
1
 
Wow! :D
It's very suspicious. :P
 
8:22 PM
@AndrewStacey That is very impressive indeed! Not looking forward to having to decide who to award the bounty to. "All the answers are wonderful, I wish you could all get the bounty" sounds trite, but it's true.
@StefanKottwitz Works really well here in Switzerland, good job! Although the quality of the data connection somewhat surpasses that of the program. Why don't they just show footage of the ship and the harbour, instead of the entertainers that will be on the ship?
 
8:37 PM
This one should be migrated
-1
Q: How to choose an appropriate mathematical journal?

JuanWhat does it mean when a journal rejects a paper because it is not of sufficient interest for them or because it does not meet the standards of the journal? When a paper is rejected, do reviewers let you know if they found any error or they will never tell you even if they found one?

 
8:54 PM
@MarcoDaniel When I replace the \fp_compare:nNnTF code by \fp_compare:nTF then I get:
! Argument of \fp_compare_aux_v:w has an extra }.
<inserted text>
                \par
l.561 ... through={(6,4) .. (4,9) .. (1,7)}] (3,5)
                                                  ;
Runaway argument?
\q_nil \q_stop \c_zero {\fp_add:Nn \l_hobby_tempa_fp {\c_pi_fp }\fp_add:Nn \ETC
.
! Paragraph ended before \fp_compare_aux_v:w was complete.
<to be read again>
                   \par
Here's an example that doesn't work for me:
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{expl3}

\ExplSyntaxOn

\fp_new:N \l_hobby_tempa_fp
\fp_new:N \l_hobby_tempb_fp

\fp_set:Nn \l_hobby_tempa_fp {0}
\fp_set:Nn \l_hobby_tempb_fp {0}

\fp_compare:nTF {\l_hobby_tempb_fp > \c_pi_fp }
{
  \fp_add:Nn \l_hobby_tempa_fp {\c_pi_fp}
  \fp_add:Nn \l_hobby_tempa_fp {\c_pi_fp}
}
{}

\ExplSyntaxOff

\begin{document}
\end{document}
@MarcoDaniel In fact, your example doesn't work for me either. I get:
Runaway argument?
\q_nil \q_stop \c_zero {TRUE}{FALSE}\ExplSyntaxOff foo\end {document}\ETC.
! File ended while scanning use of \fp_compare_aux_v:w.
<inserted text>
                \par
Am I using the wrong version of expl3?
 
@AndrewStacey Both are Works For Me with the latest SVN
What does \listfiles show?
 
@AndrewStacey Great answer! It's a major accomplishment indeed ! Did you manage to get the path closing even in your experiments? I can't think of a way to use the cycle or \pgfclosepath after a ..controls (a) and (b) .. command. I'm only asking for a nice line join, of course we can simply repeat the last coordinate.
 
9:41 PM
@JosephWright It doesn't work for me (with the current TeX Live version). OTOH, \fp_compare:nNnTF { \l_hobby_tempb_fp } > { \c_pi_fp } {...}{...} works. :(
l3fp.sty 2012/03/04 v3490 L3 Experimental floating-point operations
 
@egreg Not necessarily surprising :-)
 
@JosephWright Well, it's not very funny. :)
 
@egreg We're in the middle of an overhaul of this code, so the bug is fixed in the SVN is all I can say
 
@JosephWright I understand, of course. Let's wait for TeX Live 2012. :)
 
10:01 PM
@egreg Sorry, this won't go to CTAN before the TL freeze
 
@JosephWright Indeed I use the svn-version ;-)
 
@JosephWright When do you plan to release it?
 
@egreg After the freeze. It's too close to the final date for us to update CTAN, let others update their packages, fix any issues, etc.
 
@JosephWright Yes: some packages might break making the initial release unstable.
 
@egreg Quite
We also have some other changes which need a decent lead time. I'm working on those at the moment.
 
hhh
10:10 PM
PDF -document has 10 pages. The title is coming from the tex -document. How can you do

\section{My pdf -thing below included}
\includepdfs[pages=-]{./PDFs/manyPDFpages.pdf}

<--- now I get a separate page with "My pdf -thing below inculeded"} while I want the PDF to start straight below the title, how to get it?
 
@hhh You must work with \includegraphics.
 
leo
10:27 PM
hi there
 
@leo Hi!
Any module theory problem?
 
leo
@egreg Hi. Actually, I'm with the Fundamental Theorem on Finite Abelian Groups
trying to understand
 
@leo Quite tough indeed.
 
leo
@egreg Could you recommend me some enjoyable lecture on it?
I'm with Hernstein right now
 
@leo One of my favorite anecdotes is about Herstein's book. A professor from Oxford was visiting my advisor, who told him that the book had been translated into Italian. "I'm very pleased", said prof. Corner, "it's a shame it hasn't yet been translated into English."
My textbook was Jacobson's "Basic Algebra", I'd recommend it.
 
leo
10:38 PM
:-)
 
@leo Are you reading it in the American version?
 
leo
Let me see
@egreg Yep. so the book was already in english
 
@leo Well, not what an Oxford professor would consider /English/. :)
3
 
leo
:-)
may be other kind of english, not the oficial one
:-)
 
anyone know scrartcl and nomencl ? and could look at tex.stackexchange.com/questions/55501/… ?? I asked for the OP to provide a MWE and one supplied that looks plausible but when I run it I get an empty nlo file, but I'm not sure I've got a good setup and haven't used the class before:-)
 
leo
10:49 PM
@egreg Nathan Jacobson?
 
@leo Yes.
@DavidCarlisle The index entries are written when a page is shipped out.
 
leo
@egreg 2 volumes?
 
@leo Yes, but the first one has much more that can be done in a first year course.
 
leo
I see
 
@egreg well that's what I'd expect but I got pages but no index entries written, just an empty file. But I'm using whatever text came with cyygwin since I switched machines this week, don't really trust the package setup, I think I'll get a real tl install:-)
 
11:04 PM
@DavidCarlisle Answered. :)
 
@egreg, I thought using delarray (a package that's not used much I suspect) looked good, presumably someone disagreed?
@egreg thanks I;ll go and read:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle I don't see why! It answered the question.
It seems that a low rep user thinks that one has to downvote concurrent answers.
 

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