@PeterGrill if you are not using any fmt file (not your own not latex.fmt etc) you can not use \input with a brace (and you can't use \documentclass) until you have defined them
@PeterGrill yes latex used to be (and conceptually still is) just an alias for virtex &latex
but if you use a tex with one format pre-loaded you can still switch it to a new format but only right at the beginning not once it has done anything, which is why it has to be on the commandline or on a magic first line comment
All my files look like \input{MySetup} \documentclass{} \input{Othersetup} followed by some token values, and then \begin{document}. So in generating the .fmt file I redefine \documentclass and the two files included via \input have loginc built in so that they don't get included twice. I asseum that this is what the second part of your answer addresses.
@PeterGrill latex is just more or less the same as initex but sticking \input latex.ltx at the top of your file there is nothing magic about the latex name. (pdf)latex.fmt is just a dump saving you the input each time.
@DavidCarlisle Ok, so it seems that the conclusion is that there is no way to do what I wanted to do -- that is somehow get the .fmt loaded via another file..
@PeterGrill On Unix systems, pdflatex is just a symbolic link to the pdftex binary, which is built so that it looks at the name by which it is called and, in this case, does pdftex -fmt pdflatex; however, the %& someformat starting line inhibits loading pdflatex.fmt and loads instead someformat.fmt. But this special line should be the first in the first input file.
@PeterGrill Oh, I wasn’t reading your discussion in deep. So it is now: Perhaps it does not suit, but do you know mylatexformat? Some days ago in one of the format file questions suggested by IIRC @Qrrbrbirlbel.
@DavidCarlisle So if I install cygwin then they will get used?
@Speravir Yeah I looked at the documentation of mylatexformat, but think it would have the same issues. We are referring to my question: Compile directive via an included file.
I can’t remember ;-) I was just going to cite this: “mylatexformat was primarily written from mylatex by David Carlisle, but it is different in many points (see 3). In particular, mylatexformat allows to put almost any package in the format, […]”
@PeterGrill well either, depending on your path, also cygwin itself has an older texlive that you might want to avoid. But I wouldn't get cygwin just for this, I use it for everything life on windows wouldn't be usable without it, but the only benefit of cygwin tex is that it plays nice with other cygwin applications, there is no point in getting cygwin just for tex
@DavidCarlisle I only need it for .tex. As it is now, some of the things I have will not build on Windows without grep so I think it makes sense to install cygwin..
texmf.cnf the default one is at kpsewhich texmf.cnf butyou can have a local one anywhere in your path I think and in the current directory in particular
@PeterGrill You can see if the option is enabled by issuing kpsewhich --var-value parse_first_line at the shell. If the answer is t, you don't have to do anything.
I was answering a question at the tex.sx site when an old friend I happened to see I introduced him to the question, and while he was answering my friend stole the checkmark from me
@ClaudioFiandrino: It seems that Uwe had asked one of us to post an answer to this question: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/78357/… , but since there was no @user notification, I think we both missed it. :) Could you please write an answer? I think your answers are fantastic! :) And we can remove this question from the list of unanswered questions too. :)
@DavidCarlisle As Florent Chervet pointed out in mylatexformat he is a MiKTeX user, so he had no chance in noticing the issue with the newer version of colortbl.
Ok, so I can save face and not post yet another embarrassing question (I am sure the answer to this is going to be more embarrassing than the earlier ones), what am I doing wrong??
\documentclass{article} \newcommand*{\MyCount}{10}% A fixed constant value % ... lot of other stuff \edef\OldCount{\MyCount}% Don't really need any expansion here \renewcommand*{\MyCount}{\numexpr\OldCount+2\relax}%
Actually, he was pretty close to the solution anyway, so hopefully not pissed of, but rather problem solved. Last he showed in comments was:
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{tikz}
\begin{document}
\begin{tikzpicture}
\draw (0,0) ellipse (4 cm and 3 cm);
\draw (1.4,1.4)--(-1.4,1.4) (-1.4,-1.4)--(1.4,-1.4);
\end{tikzpicture}
\end{document}
but he had \frac{12}{5} as the coordinates instead of 1.4, so am hoping he just went Duh when he actually tried to compiles it... Don't recall the userid, so can't ping him.
More than a year ago, a friend of mine was totally excited about microtype features in LaTeX. He was talking about it quite a bit and then said to me: "Show me your document, let me input some lines of code and it's gonna be awesome!"
What he added was this:
\usepackage[ protrusion=true,
...
\documentclass{article}
\newcommand*{\MyCount}{10}% A fixed constant value
% ... lot of other stuff
\edef\OldCount{\MyCount}% Don't really need any expansion here
\renewcommand*{\MyCount}{\numexpr\OldCount+2\relax}%
\begin{document}
MyCount = \MyCount
\end{document}
@cmhughes Yep that works. But I don't need to ever do anything with except to check that something else is equal to 2 more than the initial value \AtBeginDocument. Hence thought it not a good idea to use a counter.
It seems that the smooth option applied to lines sometimes effects the arrow tips and produces incorrect results. No problem with vertical lines, but any other seems to have a problem. Is this a known bug, or is there a reason why the smooth should not be applied to straight lines?
Updated: to ...
@PeterGrill yes indeedy, in fact it's the same problem except at the beginning of the path. Alex Jordan is a colleague of mine- he commented on Jake's answer
@PeterGrill yeah, good idea; I've stripped it down to a MWE, was hoping I could have an inspired moment and fix it myself- sadly it hasn't happened! :)
@cmhughes Yeah I know, but just thought I would try.
See, I tried to tell people in my interview that I am no where near an expert in tikz. I think @Jake, @AndrewStacey, and @percusse are the real tikx experts.
@PeterGrill I'm heading off now- please don't worry about the issue; I'll look at it tomorrow, and if I solve it I'll post an answer to your question. Otherwise I'll probably post a question :)
Will I did not know that you could edit chat message as well. I am not sure who, somehow think it was Alan Munn, posted "Is there anbody out there?" to which I replied "Is there anybody home?" And then I noticed that he had already completed the Pink Floyd quote so I thought I was hallucinating -- that is how I found out that chat messages can be edited.
@cmhughes: There is a pencil mark on the left for edited messages. I only found that out a few days ago, when someone posted that I had a typo (after I had made fund of their typo in an answer, "good" was misspelled as "god"). So I corrected it thinking I was being so smart and asked "what typo?". To which they replied "I see the pencil mark". Funny how you find out about things here.
@AndrewStacey Huh? Is u purpusly tryin 2 compose de smalliest exmple witdh the mostest nummber off mistokes?
@PeterGrill Yes, that is the case for the diagram at least. Conceptually, the arrows are between columns. The diagram is trying to show columns being merged. Two columns and three columns being merged into separate blocks.
@PauloCereda Hi :-) Sorry I was only silently lurking, my head was slowly being turned to mush by TeX's output routine. I will master my flowfram package!
@PeterGrill My usual method would be to do something like \edef\dodraw{\noexpand\draw[name path=\csname PathName#2\Alph{Counter}\endcsname]}\dodraw (untested)
@PauloCereda :-) I'm so close to cracking this, but it's like in "The Dain Curse" where the Continental Op is fighting with a misty thingy. Every time I think I've got a hold on it, it slips from my grasp!
Got to go out. Will try tackling it later. Cheerio.
@FaheemMitha I think that would make a good question as I don't really know. I do occasionally use latexmk and that seems to works fine, but perhaps that is for a different reason.
@FaheemMitha not sure what the context of that is,but other than looking for "re-run latex" log messages the other think (not sure about latexmk) tools can do is just run until log and aux files are stable. If the aux file has changed since last time it's worth running latex again.
@DavidCarlisle Not sure what it means for log file to be stable. Before the code is run there is no log file. Afterwards there is. So, by that logic all files would need to be compiled twice.
@FaheemMitha the script I use for the mathml spec only does mininimal checks that things are converging and just runs it four or five times (can't remember but a fixed number)
@FaheemMitha ah well in an editor script like auctex the tradeoff is different, most of the time you are not making a final version (that's why the source is in the editor) so getting some result quickly even if it isn't actually stable yet may be best
@DavidCarlisle Perhaps. I thought these build systems relied on cues from the output. My point wrt the tikzmark issue was whether one could add a output cue oneself, programatically.
@FaheemMitha yes it never hurts for a macro to write "re-run latex" to the log file if it knows it needs to pick up information from the aux file next time.
longtable if it detects table widths have changed does this
\def\LT@final@warn{% \AtEndDocument{% \LT@warn{Table \@width s have changed. Rerun LaTeX.\@gobbletwo}}%
The atenddocument stuff is so that rather than write every time it sees a table each table just sets a global flag and at end of document if any table has changed the message to re-run is given just once
@FaheemMitha it's just a general \if command used within the latex insides, in that case it will have been set with \@tempswatrue if any test had found anything wrong with any label
I want to change the style of font for "References". I want the title of books and Articles stay in BOLD and dont in ITALIC BOLD how stay on my document.
My style stay:
KNUTH, D. E. The art of computer programming, Volume 16: Fundamental Algorithms.
[S.l.]: Addison-Wesley, 1968.
I would like:
...
@FaheemMitha, I still recommend you post a question as this is not something I have seen discussed before and is a standard issue with tikzmark (which requires at least 2 runs, sometimes more). The correct place to fix that would be in the \tikzmark package coming up from @AndrewStacey. @DavidCarlisle: This was a discussion regarding \tikzmark.
@DavidCarlisle Damm, is it that obvious!! :-) I saw that and was wondering how you have so many enemies. Oh, the other day you had posted a similar comment (could not respond at that time due to my Mac screw ups), but noticed that I had an upvote for the same question around the same time -- so looks like your enemies are my friends. Not sure why though.. Perhaps a new user.
This question is motivated by the behavior of the tikzmark macro created by Andrew Stacy, and a recent discussion with David Carlisle on chat.
I have noticed that LaTeX code using tikzmark typically requires more than one compilation run. After the first run, a picture is drawn, but there is no ...
@NicolaTalbot that's the wrong approach, you are supposed to formally prove the code is correct, document it in literate style then extract known working code from the literate document.
@NicolaTalbot e-tex \lastnodetype but it doesn't usually do you any good as you can not remove it so normally it just means that you know you are going to die rather than just dying, which isn't much of an improvement.
@DavidCarlisle Thanks, I hadn't come across that. Well, I think that's told me it's probably not a mischievous whatsit sneaking in and causing a problem. More head-scratching is required.
@DavidCarlisle Bruno and I will try to write a test framework for LaTeX3, with an easy-to-use syntax, epic reports, error handling and probably some features. :)
@DavidCarlisle I'm trying to work out why \cleardoublepage\cleardoublepage is clearing 4 pages instead of just 2 when using flowfram[1] with multiple columns. With the standard LaTeX two column mode, the second \cleardoublepage doesn't have an effect (which is useful when you have, say, \mainmatter\chapter{Blah}). [1] I've modified the code, so the flowfram version on CTAN has a different (but also incorrect) effect.
@DavidCarlisle For the first \cleardoublepage, both are 10pt at both page breaks (first page break moves from p1 to p2, second page break moves from p2 to p3). The second \cleardoublepage pagetotal is 0pt and topskip is 10pt (page break from p3 to p4) then both are 10pt again (page break from p4 to p5).
@PauloCereda Can you please check about the Debian package texlive-pictures? A user is telling that apt-get answers "doesn't exist", after I suggested to do sudo apt-get install texlive-pictures
@PauloCereda Hello! I just answered that abntcite question... What do you say of an ABNT(-like) biblatex style? Would you be interested/have the time/etc. to help me (actually, I'd try to help you) to write one?
@henrique Hi Henrique! :) Wow, you were braver than me with the ABNT question. :) I knew I should've RTFM. :) Great answer, I'll vote ASAP (you probably know I'm out of votes every day). :) I'm not a fan of the abntex bundle (let alone ABNT in general), but I think we could benefit from a couple of biblatex styles made specially for ABNT. We could really think of something. (And we have @MarcoDaniel to pester and ask for help too) :)
@PauloCereda Not a fan of abnt either :) I'd love to learn more about biblatex styles, and I think that could be a good exercise... But everytime I read NBR6023 I give up since it's a real messy standard...
@henrique Thanks. :) The version 3.0 is ready, we are trying to finish the new manual. As soon as we define the "new" logo colour, we can think of an ad. :)
@PauloCereda I think the most troublesome part of ABNT is the way it handles anonymous entries, which must be quoted by the title... I can't think of a way of handling it...
@kan you need to check what the completion key is it was traditionally M-tab but since that's a bit hard to do on windows it is usually somewhere else as well. C-h b tells you all the key bindings in that buffer
I want to change the style of font for "References". I want the title of books and Articles stay in BOLD and dont in ITALIC BOLD how stay on my document.
My style stay:
KNUTH, D. E. The art of computer programming, Volume 16: Fundamental Algorithms.
[S.l.]: Addison-Wesley, 1968.
I would like:
...
Hmm appears tabu doesn't want to nest. This works round it:
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{colortbl}
\usepackage{longtable}
\usepackage{tabu}
\begin{document}
\newsavebox\grumble
\savebox\grumble{%
\begin{tabu}{l}
1 \\
red 2 \\
\end{tabu}%
}
\begin{longtabu} {|ll|}
a & \u...
More than a year ago, a friend of mine was totally excited about microtype features in LaTeX. He was talking about it quite a bit and then said to me: "Show me your document, let me input some lines of code and it's gonna be awesome!"
What he added was this:
\usepackage[ protrusion=true,
...
It seems that the smooth option applied to lines sometimes effects the arrow tips and produces incorrect results. No problem with vertical lines, but any other seems to have a problem. Is this a known bug, or is there a reason why the smooth should not be applied to straight lines?
Updated: to ...
I want to change the style of font for "References". I want the title of books and Articles stay in BOLD and dont in ITALIC BOLD how stay on my document.
My style stay:
KNUTH, D. E. The art of computer programming, Volume 16: Fundamental Algorithms.
[S.l.]: Addison-Wesley, 1968.
I would like:
...
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