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12:01 AM
@PeterGrill Ask which editor he uses. We know what editor our David uses. :)
 
@PeterGrill my usual user name is DavidCarlisle (no space) with David Carlisle being the name the system knows by, but for one line chat messages the system truncates it so it fits next to the image without taking more space than the text line
 
@PeterGrill I see the very same monochrome icon as he uses eveyrwhere else.
 
Well if this the real David Carlise, I have some good news, and some bad news. Bad News (well bad for you,good for me), I have passed you again!! But it seems that you are an expert in format files, and so if you can answer Can't get real currfile if used in precompiled .fmt file, you can get ahead again.
 
@DavidCarlisle And this message gets the full name displayed because it's longer and the name fits in there ;)
 
12:03 AM
@tohecz Ok, that explains that, but still why would the icon be displayed differently?
@DavidCarlisle No that did not get your full name.. The link also has the other David.
 
@PeterGrill ok, I suggest you to "clear cache" once more ;D
 
@PeterGrill that's your icon. I'm not a green square like you and egreg
 
@PauloCereda btw, Hi Paulo!
 
@DavidCarlisle Nope, its different from mine. All other icon are showing up properly. Paulo's large and small one are displayed properly...
 
@tohecz Hi Tom! :)
 
12:06 AM
@PeterGrill ah no perhaps I'm being overtaken by the green square clan
 
@DavidCarlisle nah that'll be ok. Green looks sexy on you I think ;p
 
@tohecz What image do you see in the left for David's last message about the "green clan"?
I re cleared the cache and still see same images.
 
@PeterGrill the monochrome one
 
@tohecz Wow, So I am the only one that is affected by this bug??? Talk about too localized. :-)
 
@PeterGrill LOL
 
12:09 AM
@PeterGrill Probably a blip with Gravatar; Try hard reloading the chatroom.
 
Wow, this just keeps getting worse. This is what I see when I hover over my userid:
 
@PeterGrill since I am clearly morphing in to you we can combine rep, and almost catch up with egreg
 
@DavidCarlisle Oh wait, that is due to the time change!!!
I thought I had another hour to hit the rep cap!!
 
@PeterGrill yes its 10 past 12 GMT
 
@DavidCarlisle Hey, that is a good idea. So you prefer "Peter Carlisle", or "David Grill"?
 
12:12 AM
@PeterGrill The first is my brother would be too confusing
 
@DavidCarlisle I guess I will just have to get used to recognizing you with two different icons.
 
@PeterGrill the usual image is from my google log on, is there a chance that your connection to the google servers is flaky and so the sx network is filling in an icon?
 
@DavidCarlisle unlikely, as this is only affecting your icon on the left side of the chat. The one on the right shows up properly. And you longer (multi line) messages are displayed correctly.
 
:678013 strange
 
@DavidCarlisle What icon should we see?
 
12:21 AM
@Qrrbrbirlbel a grey me
 
@DavidCarlisle Everything's ok than. :)
 
12:43 AM
how do I make text smaller in math mode
I'm placing text above something to indicate a charge, and I just want it to be slightly smaller
 
\scriptsyle (but mostly you'd expect that already so perhaps \scriptscriptstyle)
 
@DavidCarlisle thanks
 
 
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7:01 AM
Uhh. TikZ is weird sometimes.
 
user19161
7:48 AM
@Qrrbrbirlbel Switch to PSTricks!
 
8:58 AM
@PeterGrill's interview. :)
 
@PauloCereda Wow, nice customization.
 
@PeterGrill Movie director!
 
@egreg Yeah I saw that... Nice and subtle.
 
@PeterGrill Orson Welles on directors: "I prefer the old masters; by which I mean: John Ford, John Ford and John Ford."
 
@egreg :)
 
9:09 AM
@PauloCereda And personally I approve every single director in that list. :)
 
@egreg Never heard that one, but it is a good quote. But, not sure that today's audience could handle the slow paced movies of John Ford. Just saw Orsen Well's Touch of Evil the other day, boy was it a slow movie -- and besides the opening shot not sure I'd recommend it.
@egreg :-)
But the opening shot is defintely one to see -- no edits for a looooong time.
 
@egreg Me too. :P
 
@PeterGrill Too much MIB or Matrix and special effects, nowadays.
 
@egreg Yeah.. But if you want to see an example of modern editing techniques, Requiem for a Dream is the one to watch.
 
Speaking of movies, did you guys watch the new "The Three Stooges"?
 
9:15 AM
@PauloCereda Hard to admit, but that is one of the classics that I have not seen.
 
@PeterGrill I watched it. There are very funny parts, but I didn't like the plot. :)
 
@PauloCereda My favorite comedy still is "The Party" with Peter Sellers.
 
@PeterGrill Do you remember some long shots by Hitchcock? For instance the theatre scene in the first version of "The man who knew too much".
@PeterGrill That's "Holliwood Party": great movie by Blake Edwards who did also "Operation Petticoat" and "Victor Victoria". But the greatest comedy of all times is "Some like it hot".
 
@egreg I don't know that one, but Touch of Evil is the one that is used as an illustration in film classes. And if you are don't know that it is one shot you probably would not even notice it.
@egreg Not sure if I have seen "Some Like it Hot". Will have to add that to my queue.
 
@PeterGrill /me screaming in pain Billy Wilder is surely one of the greatest directors.
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9:32 AM
@egreg Wow, I don't recognize any of his movies, except for "Some Like it Hot"!!
 
@PeterGrill "Sunset Boulevard", "The Apartment", "Sabrina", "Witness for the Prosecution", …
 
@egreg Sabrina is good, but I think I only saw the remake. The Apartment sounds familiar...
 
Hello there
 
@ℝaphink Hello!
 
What's up here?
 
9:39 AM
@ℝaphink Hello, we were discussing movies, but sadly I have to go to bed.. Good nite everyone..
 
ah, good night @PeterGrill
If anyone's interested in commenting, here's my latest little project: github.com/raphink/panlettre
 
@PeterGrill Have a nice sleep ;)
 
Dear friends, the interview with Peter is ready for review. Could you guys take a look? :) Sorry if there are some capital mistakes, I formatted the interview, offline, with a netbook, no internet, sit in the cold ground, while waiting for the bus.
 
9:57 AM
I'm guessing from the following question that there's no way to globally define an environment. The reason I wanted to was that I wanted to define an environment with certain catcodes in place, whence in a begingroup ... endgroup. I ended up gdeffing the command and endcommand as that seemed the simplest way to achieve what I wanted.
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Q: \global\renewcommand equivalent of \global\def

Peter GrillThe following MWE works just fine, but I had to resort to using \global\def (not that there's anything wrong with it). The intent of the MWE is to provide access to the value of macro as set in an external file, but don't want it to effect the current values that have been set in the parent file...

 
@AndrewStacey \gdef\foo{....} \gdef\endfoo{....} globally defines \begin{foo} \end{foo}
 
@DavidCarlisle I worried about optional arguments and whether there's anything extra that gets defined in environments.
 
@AndrewStacey the latex begin/end code is a very thin wrapper around csname it doesn't do much, you can define optional arguments on \foo and they are optional arguments to the environment. Or of course you can not use a group then it doesn't need to be global. \begingroup\catcode....\lowercase{\endgroup \newenvoronment{foo}.......} will define the environment with your locally set catcodes
 
@DavidCarlisle Ah, yes. The \begingroup\lowercase trick! I'd forgotten that. In this circumstance, is \lowercase doing anything other than reading in its argument and so freezing the catcodes? If I wanted to define an environment FoO then lowercase would make that foo, wouldn't it? (So shouldn't I use a non-@ version of \@firstofone?)
 
10:16 AM
@AndrewStacey that's all \lowercase ever does (it is useless and linguistically incompetent at lowercasing text:-) well yes you could use firstofone but I think lowercase is a bit quicker as it doesn't have to grab the macro argument and you can close the } group in more interesting places . After th e begingroup you are of course free to locally play with the lccodes so making \lccode`F=`F would mean that the lowercase of Foo was Foo if you needed that
 
10:34 AM
Are \newdimens local or global in scope? If I do a \newdimen inside a group then does that have any effect outside the group (even down to using up a register of some sort)?
 
@AndrewStacey best not to allocate inside a group (most of the effect of \new... is global)
 
@DavidCarlisle So then there's a play-off between speed and flexibility versus hassle. Since if I use \lowercase then any uppercase letters have to be protected via \lcode but if I use \@firstofone (or equivalent) then they don't.
 
@AndrewStacey yes but speed may not actually be measurable, remember when I learnt this stuff I had the luxury of a sun 3, trying to keep code working on people running emtex on an 8086 PC, speed and token use are less of an issue now, but my brain hasn't been reconfigured
 
@DavidCarlisle Exactly, whence \@firstofone wins on the basis of not doing anything weird.
Okay, next question. In LaTeX3, what's the proper way to execute the decision of a conditional outside the conditional group? Sort of \ifx\this\that \let\next=\same \else \let\next=\different \fi \next
 
@AndrewStacey All of the TF conditionals insert the result after the code, so nothing special needed
\tl_if_eq:NNTF \l_tmpa_tl \l_tmpb_tl
  { THIS }
  { THAT }
 
10:46 AM
@JosephWright Thanks.
 
 
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11:48 AM
Guys, what do you think of tufte-book?
 
12:22 PM
@PauloCereda I think it exists, I ran a MWE once that used it.
 
@DavidCarlisle ooh! :)
 
1:17 PM
(Sing to the melody of the "Tennessee Waltz")

I was answering a question at the tex.sx site
when an old friend I happened to see
I introduced him to the question, and while he was answering
my friend stole the checkmark from me

Dedicated to @egreg ;-)
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@lockstep Sorry. :) That checkmark has been dancing between the two answers
 
@egreg If the questioner only would upvote anything. ;-)
 
@lockstep I upvoted yours, of course.
 
@lockstep OMG! <3
Tennessee Waltz sung by Almir Sater, a Brazilian "violeiro". :)
 
J G
By chance have any of you heard of the software GIS? I made a map in it and am having a very difficult time incorporating it into LaTeX. I just cannot center the darn thing. Not sure if the problem I am having is with GIS or LaTeX since I'm not fully comfortable in either. I have incorporated .pdf files using includegraphics so I know I can incorporate docs into LaTeX. Just curious if anybody every heard of GIS and there being a fundamental incompatibility with it
 
1:24 PM
@JG Try using \fbox{\includegraphics[...]{file}} so that the presence of white padding becomes evident. Some softwares export "full pages" and not only the cropped picture.
 
@egreg I was writing that :-(
 
@DavidCarlisle You're slow: signs of aging.
 
J G
@egreg Thanks. Will give that a try now.
@egreg I tried adding hspace or vspace before the map, and it moves discontinusouly.
For example, putting hspace{1.0cm} might make no movement, neither might hspace{1.1cm}, and then next thing you know, hspace{1.2cm} made it move like 5 cm.
same with adjusting the width and height within the includegraphics
 
@JG you add space but TeX is stretching the page to make things fit so the effect is deterministic but not always obvious
 
J G
@DavidCarlisle I did not understand that comment.
 
1:27 PM
@JG If there is white padding around the picture the best is to crop it with some software or within LaTeX: \includegraphics[trim= a b c d,clip,<other options>]{file} where a b c d are the length you want to trim at the left, bottom, right, top.
 
J G
Say I do includegraphics[width = 8.5cm] then I do width = 8.6cm, it might jump diagnoally to the bottom of the page all of a sudden
@egreg By white padding, do you mean extraneous white space?
 
@JG Yes
 
@JG well to take a simpler example, if tex is trying to make everything move up as far as possible and leave space at the bottom, adding \vspace{1cm} will move it down a centimeter but if it is trying tio flush everything to the bottom it may make no difference, if it is vertically centering the page it will move the image by 0.5cm as it will center the space and the image.down
 
J G
@egreg And you are saying that might be the cause of the jumping when I make a slight perturbation in the includegraphics dimensions or the lack of a movement when I make a small increase?
 
@JG As David remarked, if you use \hspace{...}, you're typesetting a paragraph, so the object can be sent to the next line if it doesn't fit.
 
J G
1:32 PM
@egreg Iwas just having no idea how to center the graphic in beamer
 
@JG both, TeX will stretch all the white space on a page (typically) to make things fit according to its algorithm to minimise the badness on the page. If you change the image size or add explicit space before it you change the input to that algorithm so TeX will find a new best way of splitting the page and distributing space, which doesn't necessarily fit human intuition.
 
@JG \begin{center}...\end{center}?
 
J G
@egreg oh, good point!
 
@JG going back to egreg's first comment, what happens when you use \fbox{\includegraphics...} is the box tight round the image?
 
J G
and what does the fbox do?
 
1:33 PM
Dangerous things. :)
 
J G
I'm cropping right now using a .pdf software . . .
 
@JG it puts a visible box around the image so you see any white space included, as it is that total area that TeX will center if you use \begin{cemter}
 
@JG It draws a box around the graphic object, according to the dimensions it has to TeX's eyes (possibly including large white space, if so the software exported the picture).
 
It inserts a box around... oh wait.
 
J G
So to center the image, I should do the begin{center} ?
It also takes an abnormally longer time to click through it in the .pdf
Even though the file is only 500kb or so, which is on par with other images I've included before.
 
1:36 PM
@PauloCereda you need to be quicker if you don't want to seem as old as @egreg
 
J G
Ok, this is MUCH better!!
Now, suppose I'd like to move the image up by say 0.5cm? How should that be done?
I normally would put a \vspace{-0.5cm} before it.
 
@DavidCarlisle You are mean. :)
 
@PauloCereda completely unlike this totally reasonable and true comment I suppose :( : chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/6785229#6785229
 
@DavidCarlisle hahah
 
@DavidCarlisle Oh my! @egreg is mean too! :)
 
1:50 PM
@JG That changes the effective size by 0.5cm so will move it up by that amount normally but if you are using a theme that is vertically centering the page it will only move by half that amount (which sounds complicated but it's obvious when you see it happening)
 
J G
@DavidCarlisle so then how should images be moved directionally without changing its proportions?
 
@JG vspace is fine, or you could use \raisebox{-1cm}{\includegraphics...} or you can (if you are not clipping to the viewport) modify the bounding box dimensions in the includegraphics options so the image over-prints its alloted area. It all depends.
 
J G
@DavidCarlisle This is working sooo much better! I can't believe I forgot about cropping. I used to crop all of the time.
 
J G
2:08 PM
Does anybody know how to make an image like this in tikz: southalabama.edu/coe/bset/johnson/lectures/lec10_files/…
I think I can do all parts of the image, but am only stuck on how to add the lines.
(Given that I've calculated the lines and am not asking LaTeX to do it for me)
 
@DavidCarlisle: You are the table expert: which length should I change to increase the space between columns?
 
@PauloCereda \tabcolsep
 
@egreg ooh grazie! :)
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Soon! :)
 
@PauloCereda I'd answer \tabcolsep but egreg would only be smug that he answered quicker so i won't answer
 
@DavidCarlisle <3
 
J G
2:17 PM
Anybody know how to add a trend line in tikz?
A trend line that I know the equation of?
 
@JG I believe that pgfplots can handle that
 
J G
@egreg Is that different from \begin{tikzpicture} ?
 
@DavidCarlisle: can I quote that? :)
 
@JG texdoc pgfplots: it's a package built on top of TikZ
 
J G
@egreg What about pgfplots?
 
2:31 PM
@PauloCereda google would back you up so there would be no point in denying I said it:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle You couldn't deny that, not even if you tried with both hands.
 
J G
Adding a MWE is really difficult with a plot that depends on known points from a .csv!!
 
@JG why can't you post the csv file?
 
J G
Oh, I don't know how.
 
@DavidCarlisle :)
 
2:44 PM
well just cut and paste it in and then click the {} button, or actually better for anyone trying to help put it at the start of your latex document between \begin{filecontents}{\jobname.csv}...\end{filecontents} then latex will create the file when anyone runs the MWE
 
J G
I'm a little confused by that
 
@JG hang on, I'll find an example on site
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Q: Adding values to pgfplot legend

scitexterAs a follow-up to my earlier question (here), here is a question that is perhaps a little more latex than gnuplot. having used gnuplot and pgfplots to generate a fitted curve, is there an easy way to have latex automatically report the fit parameters (in this case: Ymax, EC50, nH) from the gnupl...

see the example there writes out a .dat file and then reads it back in for plotting
 
@PauloCereda When I kill arara, it doesn't seem to pass that kill signal on to the underlying process (and sometimes therefore doesn't die).
 
J G
is drc1.dat the name of the data?
so that is 8 data points in the (x,y) space?
 
@AndrewStacey hmm I'll take a look. If I recall correctly, Brent mentioned something similar the other day. Thanks for the hint. :)
 
2:48 PM
@JG in that case yes, the filecontents environment just writes its content verbatim to the file named in the argument. I didn't look what that actual question was about just searched for an example of a pgfplots MWE using filecontents to make it self contained
 
@PauloCereda Great. Not that I like killing araras, but sometimes it's necessary to put them out of their misery.
 
@AndrewStacey :)
PETA will write us angry letters. :)
 
J G
@DavidCarlisle Thanks!
 
@PauloCereda Tell them it's due to buggy Brazillian software ... lua.
 
J G
@DavidCarlisle I didn't quite do it correctly though:
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Q: Adding a Known Trend Line to a tikz plot rather than connecting the points

J GThe graph below is currently plots a point at each value of x that is an integer between -10 and 10 and connects them. What I'd like to do instead is more like this: http://www.southalabama.edu/coe/bset/johnson/lectures/lec10_files/image013.jpg First, I'd like to add a red, light line at x = 0....

 
2:51 PM
@AndrewStacey oh that was close! :)
 
J G
@DavidCarlisle I don't mean to be lazy. I just don't fully see how to change the syntax to get the data that I typed to be the data that is plotted since I don't normally use that function but rather I use the .csv.
 
@JG all I meant was that if you have a working example of something that has a tex file and a csv file you can post a self contained tex file as a MWE by putting the contents of the csv file into filecontents and getting latex to create the file.
 
J G
I posted the two separately because I was not sure what to put in place of \addplot
table [col sep = comma, y index = 1]
{data/File.csv};
 
or even if it is not working and the question is "how do I plot the data in this file?" it is helpful to make a MWE that generates the csv file even if it does nothing else.
 
J G
@DavidCarlisle I don't know how to do that.
@DavidCarlisle I added the usepackage that you showed me and typed up the data. From there, do you know what I should put into the addplot part?
 
2:59 PM
@JG you mean instead if {data/File.csv}; ? You just put whatever filename you used in the filecontents, if filecontents wrote the data as the file wibble.foo and you want to read it back you would use wibble.foo as the file name>
 
J G
@DavidCarlisle I called it drc1.dat because that is what it was called in the exmaple you showed me!
\begin{filecontents}{drc1.dat}
 
@JG you don't need to use that filename anymore than you need to use the same code. the filename is entirely arbitrary. \begin{filecontents} (which doesn't need any package, it is part of latex) just writes to the specified file.
@JG so you can delete the Here is the code: bit so it is all one section change drc1.dat to \jobname.csv and change data/File.csv to \jobname.csv then it will work as a self contained tex file without needing a data subdirectory to be present before it is run
 
J G
@DavidCarlisle Ok, I think I fixed it all. I think the MWE incorporates the .csv data and works correctly.
 
@JG Of course, I can't help with your actual question as I know nothing at all about tikz:-)
 
J G
@DavidCarlisle Thanks!
 
3:14 PM
@AndrewStacey: I think I found a possible solution. If I generate a test .jar file, could you reproduce the same steps and see if the process is correctly terminated?
 
@PauloCereda Sure.
 
@AndrewStacey I'll implement this "bugfix" and then send you via mail. :)
 
Oooh, braces are important. \only<{\numexpr3+1\relax}->{what frame?} works but \only<\numexpr3+1\relax->{what frame?} is beamer's version of the fork bomb.
 
3:37 PM
@AndrewStacey: Sent. :)
 
@PauloCereda Received. With a big warning *** UNCHECKED ***.
 
@AndrewStacey Oh! Where?
 
@PauloCereda In the subject line. Presumably at some point it went through a spam filter and the filter gave up in disgust. (One of these days I'd like to get hold of our spam filter and feed it some genuine spam just so that it knows what it looks like as it clearly has no idea.)
 
It turns out Chem structures are way easier when you define some of your own commands and indent:
    \myresfig{%
      \chemfig{%
        P%
        (-[:270]\chargebelow{\lewis{0:4:6:,O}}{-1})%
        (-[:180]\chargeabove{\lewis{2:4:6:,O}}{-1})%
        (-[:0]\chargeabove{\lewis{0:2:6:,O}}{-1})%
        (=[:90]\lewis{0:4:,O})%
      }
      \resarrow
      \chemfig{%
        P%
        (-[:270]\chargebelow{\lewis{0:4:6:,O}}{-1})%
        (-[:180]\chargeabove{\lewis{2:4:6:,O}}{-1})%
        (=[:0]\lewis{2:6:,O})%
        (-[:90]\chargeabove{\lewis{0:2:4:,O}}{-1})%
      }
      \resarrow
      \chemfig{%
I had this on one line before
I had to edit it once and figured it was time to indent
@JosephWright ^.^
 
3:53 PM
@Gnintendo :-)
 
@JosephWright Did you know about the electron configuration for Fe2+?
I didn't quite understand that one when I looked up the answer
I would think it would be [Ar] 4s^2 3d^4, but the book says [Ar] 3d^6. Do you know why it's taking electrons out of the 4s shell instead of the 3d shell?
 
@Gnintendo Ah, the s/d business :-)
@Gnintendo You have to remember that the neutral ground states and those for ions are different
@Gnintendo Book is right :-)
 
@JosephWright Oh. Is that the only difference? I'm afraid our professor never touched the topic
Will it always lose electrons from the ns shell before the (n-1)d shell for an ion?
 
@Gnintendo [Chemistry lecture] The energies of the 4s and 3d orbitals in neutral atoms are similar, and you may partly fill the 3d and also fill the 4s. However, in the ions you always find the 3d lower in energy than the 4s.
@Gnintendo Yes
@Gnintendo Fe(II) is a 'd6' metal ion
 
@JosephWright Will np deplete before ns in ions?
 
4:00 PM
@Gnintendo Yes
@Gnintendo There's quite a big gap between s and p orbitals, when you do the MO calculations
 
@JosephWright Finally, if I'm adding an electron, do I fill the (n-1)d before the ns?
(in ions)
(or would I never run into that?)
 
@Gnintendo For d-block metals, you always do 'chemistry' with the d orbitals. The frontier s orbitals are only occupied in the isolated atoms
 
@JosephWright All right. Thanks for the clarifications
 
I knew I never liked chemistry
well apart from the bits that involved dropping things into water that go bang
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5:58 PM
@JosephWright What was the way you were drawing the figures with the electron pairs? You indicated you were doing it with a different method than I was?
 
6:16 PM
@DavidCarlisle: Hey, it seems that your answer to How do I suppress the whitespace above an equation block at the page top? is the cure that @egreg has been holding out for Spurious space above align environment at top of page/minipage?
Can't believe it was that simple, and eluded me for so long!!
 
6:45 PM
@JosephWright Also, I can't figure out why this shifts the N downward: `\chemfig{\Lewis{4:,N}~\Chemabove{\Lewis{0:,O}}{\scriptstyle(+1)}}`
One would expect a simple triple bonded NO with the charge, but the N is shifted awkwardly downward unexpectedly. Am I doing something wrong?
It shifts the O downward, I mean
we really need a package for making lists and whatnot where each item is unbreakable
 
7:05 PM
@PeterGrill If you try changing the kern commands I suggested with \noindent it doesn't work in the minipage.
 
@JosephWright Should I always typeset all chemical formula in sans serif, or only in pictures
 
It works at the start of a page, yes. However it's very poor style to begin a page with an equation.
 
7:17 PM
@Gnintendo If you look at published works, the running text is always all serif. It's only the schemes which may not be: some books use serifs for everything, but most journals use sanserif for these.
 
@JosephWright Would you recommend just sans serif for just my lewis structures, then?
(this is for my homework)
 
@Gnintendo Would be usual
 
@JosephWright There isn't a simple way to line my electrons up along the axis of the bond (using angles other than the 8 positions given to me), is there?
 
8:00 PM
Damn, you lot were talking about chemistry and I missed it :(
 
@Canageek :-)
 
:<
@JosephWright It's driving me insane that the electron pairs aren't lined up; they really need to add support for angle specification to the package
 
@Gnintendo The guy who writes it is not actually a chemist!
 
@JosephWright No excuses! ;)
 
8:21 PM
Hello
Does anyone know an alternative to latexdaemon that works on OS X?
What latexdaemon does on Windows is two things: 1. automatically recompile when the tex files or any dependencies change 2. speeds up the compilation significantly somehow (by precompiling the preamble? I don't really understand the details)
I found that latexmk should be able to do 1., but what about 2.?
 
I think so @Szabolcs
 
I'm still fighting with latexmk to do 1. my way, so not sure ...
 
@Szabolcs Just use arara for 1., 2. sounds like hot air
 
@Gnintendo what do you mean by "sounds like hot air"?
 
I highly doubt this "latexdaemon" thing you are referring to actually does this; you are likely misunderstanding something you read.
 
8:28 PM
@Gnintendo: I think it does, and latexmk aswell
 
@Gnintendo All I know is that subsequent compilations are really much faster. It makes a huge difference. Also, there's some emacs package that is able to do the same, but I really don't want to use/learn emacs.
I need to find the correct term for what it does though, so I can google it ...
 
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Q: ultrafast pdflatex with precompiling

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Q: Custom format file: How to automate the generation of the "precompiled preamble" whenever one of the files that are used there are changed

user946850I would like to speed up compilation of my LaTeX documents using the precompiled preamble approach, and I was wondering whether any of the Tools for automating document compilation have support for this. The main idea is: split the document into a "static" and a "dynamic" part, preamble.tex an...

 
oh, those are useful, thanks!
 
@ℝaphink shrug cool.
 
Gnintendo - the point is that with this I can get a near real-time preview by setting up Vim (my text editor) to auto-save whenever I stop typing.
 
8:39 PM
sounds like a nice idea :-)
I wish I would find time to do that, too :-)
 
@PauloCereda Where can I review this?
 
I know this is off topic, but I just wrote this: wp.me/pAv3J-dX
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It is about my sick brother, and a charity I just donated too on his behalf.
 
8:54 PM
@egreg Yes, the automated solution does not work, but manually adding \noindent does the trick.
Who would have thought that \noindent woulld affect vertical spacing?
 
@PeterGrill That's because of how LaTeX does when \[ is found, mainly.
 
@egreg Was very surprising. Wold never have thought to try that.
 
@JosephWright: Could you grant Peter the reviewer status? :)
 
@PauloCereda Done
 
@JosephWright Thank you! :)
 
9:16 PM
Hi there people can someone tell me the difference between being \count100 and \count119 shown by the \show output?
 
@PauloCereda Not anymore in teal colour (or similar)?
 
@Speravir Nope. :) We are discussing new colours. :)
 
@PauloCereda “We”? I thought you are writing the new manual alone? Looks still great BTW!
 
@Speravir The amazing arara team. :) Brent, Marco and me. :)
 
@Canageek Sorry to read this! Nice that you write about that.
 
9:25 PM
@PauloCereda Searching for English words Hey, don’t let them interfere with the colours. You proofed a good feeling for nice design! And for writng a great manual, too (arara version2)!
 
@PauloCereda Reviewing now...
 
@Canageek Indeed, I can't find any words even for this sentence.
 
@Speravir Thanks. :) I'm going for a more sophisticated layout.
 
@PauloCereda OK, gladly looking forward then.
 
@Speravir Thanks. :) Our plan is to release arara to CTAN.
 
9:37 PM
@PauloCereda Cool!
 
@PauloCereda Ok, have reviewed -- mostly grammar clean ups. Do I need to "save" it? I did notice that the link to my embarrassing question (tex.stackexchange.com/questions/79358/…) is not there, so not sure if that got deleted, or if it just does not show up there. Also, not sure how you are counting badges? :-)
 
@PeterGrill Oops I guess I forgot, I can add it. :) And the badge counter is in your profile. :)
 
@PauloCereda Yeah, but not sure where you got "67" from?
 
@PeterGrill Here? :)
 
Also, since it is not clear that some of the text in the interview is a response to one of the other comments, not sure if some stuff should be removed. In the chat here you can mouse over to see what the comment is referring to.
 
9:42 PM
@PeterGrill: oops I updated the post, could you refresh it in your side?
@PeterGrill I tried to organize the answers according to their logic positions, but it's quite complicated. :(
 
@PauloCereda Ok, I guess that is the number of unique badges, but I thought the badge count was:
 
@Canageek A hug.
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not sure which you have used in the past...
 
@PeterGrill OMG
 
Oh oh: I just saw this:
Does that mean that my changes are lost?
Is there a way to merge changes?
 
9:45 PM
@PeterGrill Save it. I can review later.
Go ahead and save. :)
 
Save Draft?
or Publish?
 
Save Draft.
 
@PauloCereda Done
 
@PeterGrill Danke. :)
\renewcommand*{\cftsectionfont}{\sffamily}
\renewcommand*{\cftsubsectionfont}{\sffamily}
\renewcommand*{\cftsubsubsectionfont}{\sffamily}
Is this wrong? (for memoir)
@PeterGrill: can I edit now?
 
@PauloCereda Yep, I did "Save Draft"...
 
9:59 PM
@egreg I've been seeing the counter=length\relax type of code in Tikz.
Is this for getting more precision out of it?
 
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