« first day (259 days earlier)      last day (4672 days later) » 

12:32 AM
@AlanMunn Raticosa and Futa are tough hills indeed. I've never done the Gotthard Pass, it's surely very hard. But Pordoi is just another thing: from Arabba to the top, 33 hairpin turns in 10 km, from 1600 m to 2239 (salite.ch/pordoi.asp). Not with a bicycle, for me. :)
 
 
9 hours later…
9:09 AM
1
Q: Is there a way to use long or Unicode filepaths with texify?

josefecI use MiKTeX and it’s TeXworks and there is the command for making XeLaTeX+MakeIndex+BiBTeX at once. This uses texify and when your file is somewhere in the directory tree where there are non-standard (long or non-ASCII) names of directories or of the file in the path, the texify won’t take it. ...

Could someone else try this and see if my comment is correct - looks like a MiKTeX bug/feature issue
 
@MartinScharrer I've seen the question by xport; it's quite a different problem than what you think is a duplicate. It seems to me that xport needed only to write a file with answers and then print them at the end, just like Knuth does for the TeXbook or the endnotes package works. This doesn't require to close and reopen the file many times; so long that a write stream is open, TeX appends to it.
 
@egreg I see. I didn't closed it, but xport did. She called it a "shared file", so I thought is was shared by multiple documents.
@egreg Ok, in that case it would be a duplicate of another question :-) See my second comment on the now undeleted question.
I now wrote macros to collect an macro argument (at least something which looks like one) verbatim or as box. These complete the other collect macros provided by the collcell package and the environ package to collect tabular cells and environment contents, respectively. After my thesis is finished I might write an article or blog post about all of these.
 
9:45 AM
@MartinScharrer Since there are some aspects that are not covered in that topic, I'll add the answer I was writing.
 
 
1 hour later…
10:59 AM
@egreg BTW I have to visit Italy again, I wasn't there for over a decade (actually more like two decades).
 
@MartinScharrer Let me know when!
 
@egreg I'm going back to Germany in September, maybe in the Winter then.
My father is a history teacher and visited it often.
 
@MartinScharrer Will you be in Europe in October?
(I have my reasons for this seemingly strange question!)
 
@JosephWright Yes.
 
@MartinScharrer Great - we are forward-planning for the UK-TUG AGM, and might be looking for a 'guest speaker'
It's not decided yet
 
11:11 AM
@JosephWright Ah, I see.
 
@MartinScharrer I'm drawing up a list of 'possibles'
 
BTW: I love Vim for allowing my to use something like <ESC>1000000p to paste a code snippet 1million time. :-)
pdftex hasn't a problem generating a PDF with 21740 pages. * thumps up *
 
11:35 AM
@MartinScharrer: I thought I read 21740 pages.
 
@PauloCereda That's a benchmark file, not my thesis ;-)
 
@MartinScharrer Phew, that's a relief. =P
 
11:49 AM
I settled on the name draftinputlines for the little extra draft package. I'm not totally happy with the name, but it's not super important...
I'm currently writing up the various options. (And learning about xkeyval)
I might switch to l3keys not because I need the power, but because I like being cutting edge...
 
@Seamus I hope you find it works well
 
@JosephWright I'm just reading your TUGboat article now...
 
12:08 PM
@PauloCereda The TeX file is 246M in size, but 7zipped only 36k! :-)
 
@MartinScharrer wow!
 
@PauloCereda It's an example \hbox with three source lines. I copied the whole things 1.000.000 times. 7zip is very good in detecting repetition.
 
@MartinScharrer Indeed, specially when it's a text file. =)
 
7zip rules! And it's also free for Windows. No more shareware versions of WinZip!
 
I use PeaZip, which is a frontend to several compressing tools, including 7zip.
 
12:24 PM
@PauloCereda Seems nice. I installed it now on my Ubuntu Linux machine. I do most stuff on the command line however.
 
@MartinScharrer Cool! Command line rocks!
 
@PauloCereda I wrote my own 'x' script which uncompresses most compressed file formats automatically. Saves typing.
 
@JosephWright I can't find documentation for l3keys. Does any exist? If not, I might stick to xkeyval for now...
What packages (other than scrpage2 and fancyhdr are used to set headers and footers? memoir has its own syntax, I expect...
 
Now we have a tag! o.O
Well, in fact it's an old one. I first noticed it now.
 
12:56 PM
@egreg: Here is one for you again:
0
Q: Avoid paragraph due to trailing empty line in standalone file

Martin ScharrerUsing my standalone class and package it is possible to compile diagrams etc. inside own files stand-alone or as part of a main document. However, a common user error is to keep an empty line between the end of the content and the \end{document} which causes the diagram etc. to be part of a parag...

@Seamus There is also a key=value paper written by @JosephWright (IIRC)
 
3
A: Possible Conference Speaking Sponsorships -- 2011

Stefan KottwitzThank you for the kind offer. Here we are. Speaking at the TUG Conference 2011 Done for now: Chosen the most important conference, which is the Annual Meeting of the TeX Users Group, held for the 32nd time Discussed who is interested to go to the conference and who likes to speak, one of our ...

 
1:20 PM
@MartinScharrer Yes I was reading Joseph's TUG paper, but it only deals with keyval and firends and pgfkeys: no mention of l3keys...
 
@Seamus I see.
 
1:33 PM
@Seamus www.tug.org/TUGboat/tb31-1/tb97wright-l3keys.pdf
@Seamus The (x)keyval/pgfkeys article was written before I wrote l3keys
 
@JosephWright thanks!
 
1:59 PM
I've githubbed my draftinputlines.sty. It still needs a lot of work, but the basics all work. I'm still working on adding options...
2
 
@Seamus Nice! Thanks for the work!
 
@Seamus You've got a follower. =)
 
@Seamus Note my sty2dtx script if you want to create a DTX file.
 
@MartinScharrer: The peer pressure is subconsciously influencing you to choose GitHub. =P
 
@MartinScharrer Ah that's interesting. This is perhaps the first package I've written that's big enough that making a dtx might be worthwhile...
 
2:06 PM
@Seamus I have to add automatic support of \declare@key etc. statements
@PauloCereda I just signed up.
 
@MartinScharrer Yay!
 
so I can follow Seamus.
@Seamus, @PauloCereda: What's the maximum size of a repository on Github?
 
@MartinScharrer I think you have a 300mb overall.
 
The name 'Git' aways reminds me on the German word 'igitt':
"An exclamation of disgust in regards to an offensive odor, taste, sight, or thought"
 
haha!
"In meinem Salat ist ein Wurm! Igitt!"
 
2:14 PM
@MartinScharrer You get 300mb for free and then the paid accounts you have loads of space...
 
@Seamus I see. It's 4GB at Google Code.
But I assume Github has a better interface / community.
 
@MartinScharrer wow. You'd need to write a lot of code to fill that up!
 
@Seamus Yes, indeed. I was having the funny idea to put the package folders of CTAN on such a repository, and then 300MB are not enough. But I don't know if I really do it.
 
@MartinScharrer I think the good thing about github is that it's built specifically for one version control system. This means it supports all and only the features of that system (git) but it does it well...
 
2:39 PM
git [gɪt] n Brit slang
1. a contemptible person, often a fool
2. a bastard
[from get (in the sense: to beget, hence a bastard, fool)]
That hurts. =P
 
@Seamus Google code supports SVN, Hg and Git. Bitbucket is basically the Gihub for Hg is it?
BTW: \preto{\section}{\clearpage} is really nice while writing your thesis.
 
@MartinScharrer It supports them yes, but github was designed for git. So since I use git, it was the obvious choice...
 
@MartinScharrer What does it do?
 
@PauloCereda Executes \clearapage before every \section. It shows you section in a more separated form so you can easier see what's still missing etc.
 
I think one of the major features of GitHub is the ability to fork any project by simply clicking a button, then the "new" repository is automatically built into your project stack.
@MartinScharrer Hm nice!
 
2:49 PM
@PauloCereda Do you know if you can merge the pushes of the "parent" repo in your own fork?
 
@Seamus: hm good question, I'm not sure.
 
@PauloCereda Also useful as part of a Makefile:
intro.pdf: thesis.tex introduction.tex
	pdflatex --jobname intro '\includeonly{introduction}\input{thesis}'
 
Cool!
 
3:10 PM
34444rep :-)
 
3:27 PM
@MartinScharrer I'm at Joseph's heels.
 
0
Q: Multirow and lines - how to draw line going through selected columns

YodaI was wondering if it is possible to draw line which goes through some columns in table(not all columns). I have a table which looks like that \begin{longtable}{|c|c|c|c|c|c|c|c|c|c|c|c|} \caption{some text } \label{tab:artificialShapes} \\\hline \multirow{2}{*}{Shape} & \multirow{2}{*}{$C^...

@AlanMunn should rephrase his comment to "useful the following question find you might." =P
(Bad Yoda joke.)
 
@egreg Feel free to deal with some old unanswered issues :-)
 
These are times of "Necromancer" and "Revival" badges.
 
3:44 PM
@PauloCereda :-)
I've got my copy of the Necrotelecomnicon out!
 
@egreg I must make sure I'm finished with my thesis before you can close the 15k gap between us :-)
 
@JosephWright o.O - Phonebook of the Dead?
 
Lit. 'Book of telephoning the dead'. (See The Light Fantastic, Eric, etc. by Terry Pratchett)
 
@JosephWright That book is on my To-Read list, already bought.
 
4:06 PM
@JosephWright I look at them from time to time. I'll do my best.
 
@PauloCereda Sorry, not nerdy enough for that. I've not seen a single Star Wars movie. In my field there's a term for sentences like that: word salad!
@MartinScharrer Who knew that this site could speed up progress on one's thesis!
 
@AlanMunn Oh. =(
@AlanMunn: On a second thought, it really looks like a word salad. =P
 
Speaking of unanswered questions, I suggest closing this as a duplicate tex.stackexchange.com/q/14596/2693
 
Good idea.
 
@AlanMunn Done
 
4:23 PM
@egreg, @JosephWright, @all: Does \the return the exact representation of a length or it is somehow rounded?
 
@MartinScharrer It returns exactly what TeX would use in any other case - the length in pt
 
I'm impressed with the progress here. Two days ago when the discussion about reducing the number of unanswered questions we were at about 250. Now we're at 180.
 
That of course converts from the (integer) sp internal representation, but that is exact
Try \number\<dimen> to get the value in sp
@AlanMunn Nope, down to 213
 
Does anyone know if babel has support for Latin?
 
(There are 180 with no answer at all, but there is also the 'no upvotes' group)
 
4:26 PM
@JosephWright Thanks, I know about \number and sp.
So, you won't never have a change when you say \mylength=\the\mylength\relax?
 
@MartinScharrer Quite
 
@JosephWright I'm currently running a large for loop to check this :-)
 
@JosephWright Ok. Yes, I was just looking at the no answers list. But 250->213 isn't bad either.
 
Would someone be so kind to upvote this zero-score accepted anser of mine? (Zero-score accepted answers are the one SO feature I really dislike.)
 
@lockstep done. =)
 
4:31 PM
@PauloCereda Thanks! If one of your answers becomes zero-score accepted, feel free to call me. ;-)
 
Found it! \usepackage[latin]{babel}!
 
@JosephWright Heiko Oberdiek uses sp values in his zref package to write the positions of elements on the page to the AUX file. I always thought this is done because the expression of \the is not 100% accurate.
 
BTW, speaking about zero-score accepted answers: At least, those answers will remove the respective question from the list of unanswered questions.
 
@PauloCereda Yes, it has. See the docs of newunicodechar for hints about how to overcome some technical difficulties if you need prosodic marks.
 
@egreg Grazie! I'm gonna take a look. =)
 
4:39 PM
@PauloCereda Obrigado.
 
@egreg =) I'd love to learn Italian, my mom tries to teach me all the time.
 
@MartinScharrer I believe that with five decimal digits you can represent uniquely all numbers with 16 binary digit fractional part; after all 2^(-16) > 0.00001. The uniqueness is only one way: 0.00001pt = 0.00002pt, but that's not a problem
 
How about closing this question? It's about three months old, and I doubt that anyone will try to answer it.
And then there's this question ... IMO, half a year without a minimal example is enough.
 
@egreg I agree now, it does accurately represents the value TeX uses with the 16 fractional bits. So when you turn it into a string using \the and read that string back you will end up with the same value again.
@egreg However, the value of \the is still rounded, e.g. 1sp = 0.000015259pt, but displayed as 0.00002pt. For TeX it doesn't matter because it is rounded back to 1sp when read in again.
But if you would export it to another system (PostScript, MatLab, own script, ...) which uses more than 16bit you would be able to see the rounding error. Then sp output would be better. Not that it matters really in practical applications.
 
5:00 PM
@MartinScharrer TeX always chooses the decimal representation that is closer to the actual binary fraction. 16 bits are sufficient for TeX's purposes, but of course some calculation may be performed differently if 31 fractional bits are used; usually floating point computations round instead of truncate.
 
Damn, out of votes
 
@JosephWright Of normal votes or of closing votes?
 
@lockstep Normal votes - moderator closing votes don't run out!
 
I'm getting an error with soul highlighting, and am not sure what to do about it. The manual quotes the error message, but doesn't give details that help me. The message is (via auctex): I've run across a `}' that doesn't seem to match anything.
For example, `\def\a#1{...}' and `\a}' would produce
this error. If you simply proceed now, the `\par' that
I've just inserted will cause me to report a runaway
argument that might be the root of the problem. But if
your `}' was spurious, just type `2' and it will go away.
I'm not sure what this means. Am I doing something stupid? Should I post a question?
 
@FaheemMitha Yes, do, with a minimal example.
 
5:10 PM
@egreg : Ok. Will do.
 
5:25 PM
Here's a question that the OP answered in a comment, but the answer is so bad that I would downvote it. Can we close this question?
 
@lockstep Not a real question?
 
5:41 PM
@lockstep The question itself isn't bad, and there's enough to go on without a minimal example. It's easy with tocloft to put a heading over the TOC entries if the TOC is just one page. Is there an easy way to get that same header on subsequent pages?
 
 
1 hour later…
7:11 PM
I love writing scripts for increasing my procrastination time.
I had to manually parse 1500 songs. My average speed was 1 song / 5 minutes. Then I wrote a script which did the job in less than 5 seconds.
 
@MartinScharrer: I don't see any mention of \ref in the soul manual, nor do I see any more general discussion of this point. However, I am running tex live 2009 on Debian squeeze, which is outdated.
hmm, let me check the latest manual. i was looking at the one with my distribution.
 
7:46 PM
@MartinScharrer: The manual looks really old, so maybe no point in trying to follow up. Also, there is no email address given. Are there any alternatives to soul for highlighting. I have a second related problem: adding {\itshape Italic text} gives an error. Should I add to the question or post a new question>
 
8:05 PM
@FaheemMitha There is also the ulem package. Just write \textit{Italic text} instead of {\itshape Italic text}.
 
user19161
8:21 PM
TL2011 is taking forever to come out. And I am eagerly awaiting LaTeX3.
 
8:41 PM
@MartinScharrer : Yes, \textit works, but why doesn't \itshape?
 
@JasperLoy The TL 'delay cycle' is a bit awkward, I'd agree
I'm sure Karl has good reasons, but it can be a bit frustrating
 
user19161
@JosephWright If I want to copy my TL installation from one Linux to another, I just need to install the first as usual, then copy the whole ~/texlive/xxxx folder to the other machine, then run fc-cache -fv and context -generate right? No need to connect to internet again?
 
9:14 PM
What environments does article define? itemize,enumerate,description,quote,displaymath,equation any others?
And what environments does amsmath define?
 
9:30 PM
@Seamus I don't think those are all defined in article.cls. grep environment /usr/local/texlive/2010/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/article.cls produces: description, abstract, verse, quotation, quote, titlepage, titlepage, figure, figure*, table, table*, thebibliography, theindex (edited output)
 
@AlanMunn Thanks! Although they must be defined somewhere that article can use them... Are they defined in the LaTeX core or something?
 
@Seamus Yes, most are defined in latex.ltx You can texdoc source2e to see the documented source, which will show all of the core environments.
 
9:49 PM
@AlanMunn Thanks!
 
@Seamus Martin's latexdef script also looks like a useful tool for finding this stuff out.
 
10:12 PM
@Seamus Note that my using grep to search for 'environment' isn't at all a robust way of finding environments, since it will only find those defined (or redefined) using \(re)newenvironment. Many environments are defined using \def\foo and \def\endfoo and so those environments can't be found that way.
 
@AlanMunn The kernel environments are not defined with \newenvironment, but rather with \def\foo{...} and \def\endfoo{...}: flushleft, center, flushright, enumerate, itemize, description, trivlist, list, displaymath, equation, eqnarray, minipage, lrbox, array, tabular, @float, sloppypar. None is defined with \newenvironment.
 
10:32 PM
@egreg Didn't I just say that :-) That's why the source2e is a better place to find the kernal envs.
 
@AlanMunn I just prefer to "less $(kpsewhich latex.ltx)", actually. But sometimes source2e.pdf is invaluable, sometimes inscrutable. :)
 
11:24 PM
I have an alias for something like that:

alias lgrep='grep --color -n /usr/local/texlive/2010/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/latex.ltx -e'
 

« first day (259 days earlier)      last day (4672 days later) »