@mountainlionmoorthy Could you give me write access to chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/13706/tu-daal-daal-me-pant-pant?

Its another room scheduled for deletion, that way I can atleast warn

@aneri you around?

@Manishearth i did't get u?

@mountainlionmoorthy Your chat room is scheduled for deletion. Can you give me access so that I can warn?

It's going to be deleted either way, but if I can warn, it's better

@Manishearth thats not my room mate just they make it as a room owner ...

@mountainlionmoorthy K, that's fine, but can you give me access? You have ownership

room topic changed to Chat Moderation: Please read meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/139362/… before complaining about room deletions. (no tags)

@Manishearth your already there in that room rit?

@mountainlionmoorthy Don't have write access

I'm not a mod on chat.stackoverflow, so I don't have access. But I'm helping the chat mods

@Manishearth tell me what is it?

@mountain chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/info/13706/…

@ishhhh The keyword is generally

I see zero tech discussion

i know i have pasted it that means i have read it

@Manishearth

There should be a majority

So, that point does not apply to your room

Look, you guys are using chat.SO as a way to chat because GChat and FB are blocked, right?

u know one thing you are just actually finding out the reasons to delete it . thats why i said nothing is going to go in your head so please go ahead and delete it

Use webchat.freenode.net or something instead if you want to chat without restrictions

@ishhhh If you feel that way, fine. Just note that most of the active community and a dev support this.

@Manishearth no not at all i have acces to all. i use it always because whenever i have a small doubt i dont need to come back again to ask i directly ask them my doubt and just cleasr it

@ishhhh Leena mentioned that she didn't

Well, the rooms seem like a casual socializing place, and do not help SO in any way

@Manishearth yea some of them dont u have asked me and u think we come here just for that

@ishhhh So don't use those rooms

THere are main rooms for Java/C++, etc

Ask there

@Manishearth i said we dont need the rooms again as you dont understand im really not interested in arguing . i just feel like you people are over acting on the issues

@ishhhh Rules are rules. They haven't been enforced for a while, now we are enforcing them

@Manishearth i think you as @jeet suggested you have to delete the users.

all are using many rooms they are have tech with non tech discussions , if u continue reacting in this way i guess people will loose trust in SO

@jeet @leena @ishhh _please_ do not keep re-creating such rooms. From the transcript I can easily see that you know very well that such rooms are going to be deleted, yet you keep re-creating them in an attempt to evade us. Continuing to do so may result in a chat ban.

all you have to do is , allow people to do the tech with non tech chat , because this is more helpful for all rather than always coming and closing the rooms

@ishhhh Look. SE owns the rooms. They have created chat for a reason.

These rooms don't help SE/SO in any way.

We are not your personal chat room hosts

@Manishearth we wont again as i said we all have lost trust. and i dont find any use of arguing . stop making it bold , i can read it without that also. and please note the people you are pointing out have been most helpful to other users for Technical discussions.

@ishhhh The bold is for others to read

@ishhhh Did you read meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/139362/…?

Ah you did

@Manishearth all can read no one is blind and im not sure if they are gonna come back or not .

yea i did read

Why don't u guys use something like webchat.freenode.net ? They have technical rooms there

@ishhhh It makes the important stuff, that everyone should see first, stand out

@ishhhh And why don't you use the main Java/PHP/C++ room for helping people

No need to create your own private cliques

@Manishearth thanks for the suggestions we will find it out by ourselves as i said ur not even understanding wat we are sayin .

OK, then please clearly specify what you are saying.

@Manishearth because i know who all i can access fast and get the reply fast . the other rooms are so much crowded u get confused with that when ur in a hurry to get the reply

@ishhhh Oh rly? In the transcripts of the other rooms, half the time, the question goes unanswered

somewhere ur sayin is correct when we shud not come only for non tech discussions

@ishhhh Most of the people here are for non-tech

> The real-world equivalent of the room would be a user group meeting.

but even if we do the tech discussions u just come there and u dont find anythin tech and u say u gonna delete it

> The real-world equivalent of the room would be people waiting at a bus stop.

@ishhhh I look through the transcripts. I see a bare minimum of tech

And I can easily see that this room was created to avoid deletion

@Manishearth please last time u said the same

Look, it is pretty obvious to us that the main purpose of these rooms is casual chatting

There is extremely less tech discussion

@ishhh wrong, we think you have very little

The room falls into the second category listed here: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/139362/…

That's it.

@jeet

I never said that

@Manishearth you said it yesterday

@Manishearth i had read it yest , som1 sayin "Indian Developers mainly"

do I find transcript you said it

@jeet No, I said that a lot of the rooms that need deletion are Indian

@Manishearth y dont you request them to delete the users that will be more helpful to you .

@ishhhh I don't want to do that

@Manishearth and y so???

I'm patrolling Indian chat, not the other ones, because the mods can't understand Hindi

So I'm mainly looking at those

@Manishearth you said, some indians are talking in non english language, dont make us fool, bla bla bla

But, we have rooms like chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/13455/… as well which may need deletion

and a few English rooms

@jeet Oh, that wasn't me--that was BoltClock. I pasted his tweet

Some user had used Hindi to hide away from the mods--they can't understand, so they can't take action

@Manishearth whatever, you were supporting him, so you are saying the same

@jeet Actually no

and i never used hindi for hiding purpose

It was in reply to Bertie's message

Look, that wasn't directed at you

I used coz I am more confortable in hindi, than english

thats all

I used that to emphasize the point that mods knew of the non-english rooms and were frustrated at moderating them

and why dont you consider my suggestion

I did not direct that at anyone in the room there

@Manishearth u know what by discussing all these everyday you people are only doing the most non-tech discussions here.

@jeet Yeah, that's fine

@ishhhh I know, but this helps SO in removing crap from chat

@Manishearth why dont you see my activity in all rooms

@Manishearth and what about the ones u are creating

The discussion doesn't have to be tech

it can be SO related as well

and if I am not doing any technical discussion, then delete me, not room

There discussions are SO related

@Manishearth dont change the rules as and when needed

@jeet No, I'm getting rid of rooms which are not useful to SO (acc to the guidelines here )

> it may also be about technology in general, about the programming community at large, or about Stack Overflow itself.

This is about SO itself (specifically chat.SO)

@jeet If you continue to create such rooms, then yes, you may be banned

@Manishearth and after how many rooms I would get banned

@jeet I dunno

coz Now, I want to be banned

Just don't create more. If you create more, make sure you restrict them mainly to tech discussion (thoda thoda non-tech chalega)

Why?

If you don't want to use the site acc to the rules, then don't.

BTW i have got others works and just for ur sake they are Tech works . im not here to sit and chat with you on a Topic thats just useless. Please go ahead and delete the rooms , there wont be any new rooms created by us @jeet R8??? @Manishearth

@ishhhh are we going to stop make rooms?

@ishhhh K, no prob. I don't want to waste time discussing this either, I just want to make sure everyone understands the situation and stops making such rooms.

Thanks for agreeing not to make more such rooms, @ish :)

@Manishearth you can bann me, so that you can give examples to other users

@jeet yes because i have lost trust in these people , act they dont care if we discuss Tech or Non Tech they jus wanna delete our rooms

@ishhhh We want to keep chat clean--make it stick to the purpose for which it was made

Also, rules are rules

@ishhhh hmm, its right, yesterday, reno, search my profile and listed all the rooms, to which I was owner

@Manishearth can i ask you one thing?

@jeet yes , how else do you think they are getting into our rooms only???

@jeet Well, you had made many such rooms, so I guess he thought it was easier to do that than look at each chat room one by one

@Manishearth do you know, why I created such rooms

@ishhhh Uhh, no, I have other rooms in my list as well. Just that many of you are participants in most of them.

@ishhhh yep

coz, I request for access to android room

@jeet Ah, that may have been ignored

and the owners feels that I am not so good in indian

But look

so I should not give access

do you also feel, that my english is so week, that I wont able to explain my question or answer

It doesn't matter what you created the room for. It degraded into a worthless (for SO) room, and needs freezing/deletion

@jeet Not really

@Manishearth leave it its non tech !!!

@Manishearth so I flagged that messages

@jeet Did they say that? Or is it your interpretation?

:O

@Manishearth yes, they said this, and I flagged these messages too

@jeet Hmm..

but there was no one to ask them a single question

and if on one is here to ask a single question to some persons, then why should I bother about them

@jeet they are just interested in finding out the rooms we are in and to delete it not in anything else . and even him being an Indian he acts the same

then its useless arguing @jeet

@jeet I have no problem if you create another room for tech, as long as you enforce that the majority of conversation is tech

@ishhhh I want deletion of that room too

@ishhhh Look, please stop bringing "Indian" into this

It is not relevant

@Manishearth Its right, what she is saying

I see min 5 persons requesting access on the same day

@Manishearth why Then did the others bring , go and question them first or you can open you mouth just in front of us it ??????????????????

all are indians

and they didnt provide access to single person

@ishhhh What? I don't get you

@jeet Hmm, maybe they have had problems with Indian users?

I'll let a mod know

if SO reputation havent any weight for them

and moderators of chats

then why should I answer the questions

and my graph first 3 months=5K points

Go and do some work @Manishearth something useful rather than wasting ur time chatting with us. Go and find some Indians and delete those rooms.

@jeet I'm not targeting Indians, I don't hate Indians. Just that there are more Indian rooms like this, and I'm checking them out first. Most of the other rooms can be checked by the other moderators. I'm one of the few that understands Hindi, so I'm checking these rooms first

drop to next 3 months= 1.5 k

@jeet m leaving . I hate such people who has not other work !!!! HUH .

@ishhhh Its my final day on SO

main site and chat

@Manishearth Bye . im leaving SO . and Thanks for warning us !!!!!!!

so I think I should share them everything I think about SO, Chats, and its users

uski bolti band

@jeet

Nah, I'm doing other stuff as well

chalo bye, @Manishearth, please let me know, how can I delete my account on SO

@ishhhh hahaha

kyoki mene hindi me likha na

@ishhhh Why take effort and write the exact steps.

he he he sahi hain :P

Mein aalsi hoon

@Manishearth thank you :)

@Manishearth yeah thats correct . :P

@Manishearth aila tune hindi bola

ye to sahi me kamal hi ho gaya

Mujhe hindi aata hai, main English prefer karta hoon

angrez chale gaye tumhe chod gaye :P @Manishearth

hahaha

flag kar naaa @jeet :P

flag karu ya, star? :)

flag kar de abhi tak mera flag nahi hua :P @jeet

waise bhi yeh kis kaam kaaa

ab

:P

STOP THAT

@jeet Bye wahan milti hun

yaar me mere message nahi kar sakta flag

@Manishearth kyun ab tujhe kya hain

@ishhhh Stop flagging random messages

@Manishearth I am flagging messages, which are in hindi

@jeet fine jaane de. yeh kitni chik chik karta hain har baat pe !!!

@jeet You dont have to do that

@ishhhh Chik chik nahi, you guys are wasting the time of other mods

@Manishearth why, I think its in appropriate for SO

@jeet he is saying you dont do let the Angrezisss do that

hahaha

@jeet Fine, I deemed it valid. Happy? Now ishhh got suspended for 30 seconds

and me?

Stop making a mockery of the flag system

@jeet If someone flags you, then yes

(I can do it myself, but I see no need to)

abe @ishhhh kar na, mere msgs

@Manishearth please do it, na, else do I call some other person to do the same

@jeet Happy?

@leena see meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/139362/…, please

And don't keep creating/participating in rooms which fall in the second category

@Manishearth ok

Thanks :)