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Jolenealaska

5:40 AM

Is there a traditional time between birth and the nameday?

Edlothiad

They aren't the same day?

Jolenealaska

I don't know. It's never said in the main books.

Or the series.

Since so many infants died so young in medieval times, it wouldn't surprise me to hear that it's months

Edlothiad

> I think there is a difference, actually, and it stems from old First Man traditions: Remember that the Wildlings do not name their children until they are about two years old, because doing it before is just not worth it (and considered bad luck). So the nameday is the day these toddlers got their names, not the day of their births.

>This also has some resonance to real medieval history: For many medieval and early modern people, we do not know the birthdays - but we do know when they were baptized (ultimately, given a name), which usually happened a few days later. One such example is J…

Jolenealaska

Jon was named on his birthday. But that doesn't mean much since she knew she was dying.

Edlothiad

We're only told of wildlings and small folk who wait 2 years or so to name teir child

But then from Gilly it seemed like the child would be named on it's second birthday, which would suggest it's still the same just 2 years later.

Jolenealaska

5:53 AM

Do any of the Stark children ever refer to their nameday? Maybe it's a Faith of the Seven thing?

In the series Cersei refers to her first born as a black-haired beauty - never by name

Edlothiad

Cersei's first-born is a black-haired beauty? Isn't Joffrey golden-haired

Also Nameday seems to be the same day/month as birthday, but with a different year

So if they waited a year to name their child, their 1st nameday would occur on their first birthday, but they were born a year earlier.

Jolenealaska

6:10 AM

In the series, Cersei and Robert had a son that died in infancy.

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