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2:09 AM
I just had weird experience. I approved an edit on one of my questions and I only have 127 rep on the site. @JasonSalaz @NathanGreenstein @KyleCronin Do you know how I did that?
 
 
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5:36 AM
@daviesgeek congratulations
 
 
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6:52 AM
@daviesgeek Users of any rep can do almost anything to their own question.
Approve edits should be one of them.
 
 
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9:46 AM
Does anyone do web development on here - not website design, but development?
Also, if anyone is interested in participating in some brainstorming with regards to the setting up of a fundraising website, please get in touch on twitter or similar - Cheers.
 
10:18 AM
Also, if you hate "free", and grumble when Instagram (for example) sell out because it's their only way to actually, you know, earn money, I want to chat :)
 
 
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12:13 PM
@stuffe Pretty sure if I sold something for $1B I wouldn't be complaining :P
 
For sure, if I owned it ;)
 
So you're not opposed on principle, just jealous :)
 
I have no problems with someone creating something (anything) and making a lot of money from it.
 
@stuffe re web development: yes, but if you're looking for a collaborator, I've already got an internship for this summer and probably won't have lots of time...
 
But I have a more generalised issue with "free", whereby services that are free generally have no way to earn money than to get bought.
I had an idea to set up a site where if you would like to pay $2 a month for Twitter, then because you can't pay Twitter, you could pay into a fund that raises money, and the money that is raised is owned by the people who pay in.
The point being not not to raise money for twitter, but to raise some money that can be used for any purpose, as decided by democratic means by the contributors, but intended to be in the areas of either raising awareness of the whole "if you are not paying you are the product), or maybe helping out small developers with a "grant" to help avoid needing ads in Apps etc.
 
12:34 PM
@jtbandes Not so much an internship, but I am thinking of trying to get a bunch of guys to brainstorm the idea in general, and see where it goes from there.
 
@stuffe sure. but that which I already have is an internship :)
Are you thinking the process would be entirely automatic?
 
Have you ever looked at HumbleBundle.com?
 
Sounds like you're kind of trying to set up a mutual fund
Yeah I have.
 
You dontate $, and can split it out. I had an idea that you might donate $10, split it out between what you might like to pay for Twitter, Tumblr (basically any of the free services that have no revenue other than ads), and you havea fun system whereby you can see what people in the system would have paid for each service, but then we choose to use the money for some other good cause.
 
Ah I see. Interesting.
 
12:38 PM
As a sort of mutual fund yes. I would happily pay $10 a month for a selection of free services I use daily, and if there are a few hundred others who are lucky enough (3rd world problems!) to not even think twice about throwing a couple of coffees worth a month into such a scheme and be part of a fun benevolent society it could be a lot of fun, both doing the actual mechanics, but also giving the money away
 
@stuffe yes, I do.
 
@jmlumpkin Hi - thanks for answering. As per the discussion above with jtbandes, is this something that interests you?
 
1:23 PM
@stuffe I'm intrigued. On a technical level, an economic level, and a philanthropic level, I'm very interested in exploring this concept.
 
@DanielL Good to know. I've been after a 'project' for some time, I suspect it will be small fry, but it could be a lot of fun.
 
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Q: How to invoke a method at particular time asynchronously every day in Mac application?

LionThis is my first Mac application. I would like to send emails by comparing the current date and saved date of clients by the user in sqlite only one time- every day depending on the condition, asynchronously.

I had a wonderfully verbose, detailed and relevant answer to this.
I think we should reopen it.
It all involves launchd and launchctl.
 
@IanC So not a compiled app?
 
@DanielL not a compiled app. plist files and launchctl commands to register it.
I think that question was very much not off topic. And my answer will show you why.
 
Re-open and migrate?
 
1:31 PM
Re-opened.
If we can answer it on topic here, no need to migrate.
 
thanks! one sec...
there you go.
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A: How to invoke a method at particular time asynchronously every day in Mac application?

Ian C.Note: I'm assuming that by "asynchronous" you mean "do this whether or not the user is logged in and running the application at 9:30 am". The right way to do this is to register a call with launchd that handles the appropriate work for your application. When and how you do this is somewhat flexi...

 
Good answer. But the question still feels off-topic
 
@jtbandes he's going to get bounced about since it's not really a programming question. It's all very-Apple so IMO very on-topic.
 
I think its off topic in the way of how he is asking it, but on topic in such that we cover stuff like these scripts.
 
It's not clear to me whether perhaps he wants a way to do it programmatically (rather than configuring launchd and such)
 
2:00 PM
Ian's answer feels okay, but the other question and the the other answer are pulling it into the OT zone.
 
Edit the Q to make it fit better then :)
I would, but others would do it better.
 
@jtbandes there's no other way to do it. Not asynchronously.
 
@stuffe Not sure how to do that without fundamentally changing the question which is, by all appearances, a programming question.
 
Perhaps a change to "what mac tools will help me acheive X" style minor edit
 
2:18 PM
I'll let those that truly care about the question attempt to salvage it. I respect Ian's efforts at answering it, but I would have voted to close and moved on.
 
Here's one for you guys - how does SE make money?
 
@IanC Timers, but I think that might be a bad way
@stuffe the Careers site
 
Presume advertising, but there are never any ads on AD other than other SE sites
 
@stuffe VC, with the intent of selling to Facebook at the first opportunity. ;)
 
That's what I was wondering !
or though the copious amount of outerwear they clearly sell.
 
2:26 PM
@stuffe I have no insider info and, truthfully, I think SE is trying to build a legitimate business.
They did try selling the engine as a product for a while.
 
Didn;t they sell the SE system for a while, before realising they should just host the things instead?
Very Great Minds again :)
 
Indeed. I wish the SE fan badge was rectangular—and *subdued*—I have a patch of velcro on my EDC pack that could use a little something something.
I suppose I could black out the white with my magical anodizing marker (aka "Sharpie")
 
2:44 PM
@jtbandes timers? Like the first reply? They only work if the app is running, so not really asynchronous.
 
2:55 PM
Does this question serve a useful purpose (or am I just in a mood this morning?):
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Q: Fastest way to get to camera in iOS?

Adam DavisThere are a few different states an iOS device might be in when one wants to capture a memory really fast: Power off, with a PIN or password screen Power off, no PIN or password, but need to "slide to unlock" Power on - on springboard (no app running, looking at app icons) Power on - in an app ...

 
@DanielL Is it engraved with “Ask Different” or “0mg j00 pwn3d level 3!!11eleven” or something like that?
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@jaberg It's not great, but then I have an aversion to any question with Jailbreak connotations.
 
My initial response is that it's pretty much asked and answered. You put your favorite camera app in the App Bar and you do your best. There is no magic potion that's going to improve things.
 
@MathiasBynens Good point. Also, if mine ships from my local online store (in order to get the correct plug), I kind hope it isn't because I intend to attempt to take it back to an Apple Store and swap it for a 32Gb one!
 
@stuffe Ooh, not a bad idea!
 
3:05 PM
@MathiasBynens I'm not just an ugly face ;)
 
@stuffe With all the @2x images, you’d think that a Retina display iPad requires ± twice the storage of a non-Retina display. So, a 16 GB iPad 2 (before the Retina iPad era) ≈ a 32 GB “new iPad”.
 
@MathiasBynens Compression goes a long way, but I agree, Apps are going to get bigger.
 
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Q: Retina enabled Apps and file sizes

stuffeWith the new iPad being released with the Retina display, many apps are being updated with new graphics and images to enable native resolution images to be displayed. However, with increasing resolutions comes the resultant increase in image file sizes. Your definition of what constitutes doubl...

Not 2x, but 4x
For bitmap graphics anyway.
 
@stuffe Right, that makes sense!
@stuffe In that case you need a 64 GB iPad ;)
 
As you see, in anticipation, I was trying to work out if I could survive on a 16Gb one, given that I would only use it for apps, no audio, no video, no pics other than that which I shoot on the built-in camera.
My initial thoughts are that I can't.
I have 16Gb of apps on my phone as it is
 
3:11 PM
Graphics are 4× as large (in file size), but app bundles contain the old @1x images too. So the total size of images gets about 5× as large as it used to be, now that there’s a Retina iPad.
 
Indeed. Luckily not all Apps are bitmapped. Larger apps (games) are often vector based anyway (although the textures they use may still be increased). So it depends on the app how bad the effect is.
 
For those in the US who didn’t get an iPad in the recent Ask Different contest/promotion:
RT @engadget: Three iPad giveaways in three days http://engt.co/IPR3NB
 
3:51 PM
@stuffe @DanielL Have there been tracking numbers or something? as I have none yet...
...whoops. Looking through my spam folder and found important things for this summer :/
 
4:07 PM
@DanielL I was REALLY surprised that my gravatar acutally made it into the leagues.
@JasonSalaz I see.
Aw c'mon, no one's checked the suggested edits???
 
4:31 PM
@daviesgeek Likely a sign that there are too many of 'em. ;)
 
4:56 PM
@jaberg There were 7, 3 of which were mine
 
5:09 PM
@jtbandes I didn't get a tracking number.
 
My kingdom for a tracking number.
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@MathiasBynens no.
 
6:01 PM
@DanielL Awww...too bad.....
 
6:20 PM
None here.
But if they are shipping from "local" apple online stores, then there is a 2 week wait from the UK :(
 
6:39 PM
@daviesgeek Chrome Canary is awesome!
*"Threaded compositing Mac, Windows, Linux, Chrome OS
Uses a secondary thread to perform web page compositing. This allows smooth scrolling, even when the main thread is unresponsive"*
 
I stopped getting excited about new browsers after I.E. 3 got proxy support ;)
 
Well, I'm obsessed with smooth scrolling. And Chrome Canary 20 performs much better in scrolling that Chrome stable 18.
Chrome 18 still has very horrible scrolling on websites with flash.
Safari and Chrome Canary handle this much better.
(I'm talking about intertial scrolling, btw.)
 
I like to see progress too, of course
(but I was happy when I.E. 3 got proxy support)
 
I can't remember the last time that I used an Internet Explorer. Must have been more than a year - at least ;)
 
About 3 hours ago
I'm not proud ...
 
6:50 PM
:( I was testing if that would render nicely...
 
Would it be rude to ping @lauren and ask what method of shipping was used for us poor Europeans?
Ooops, too late! ;)
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Haha! Yeah, I also can't stand waiting for an apple product for that long :)
 
@gentmatt It is pretty cool, though I personally can't see much of a difference....
@gentmatt HATE Internet Explorer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@gentmatt Odd. I haven't noticed it. I hate Flash too!
 
7:06 PM
@daviesgeek You mean in scrolling?
 
@gentmatt In anything. Scrolling, browsing...etc. The only difference I notice is the icon and the version number :-)
 
REALLY?!
Let me look for examples....
 
@gentmatt Yes...what have you noticed.
 
@gentmatt What about that?
 
7:09 PM
The scrolling is much better in Chrome Canary.
 
@gentmatt Oh, yeah it is, but for me, not noticeably. Both versions work well.
The bumping at the top is better...
Not really bumping, but I can't think of a different word :-)
You know, when you get to the top and keep on scrolling.......
 
Yeah, I usually test that as well.
I don't like the preferences in Chrome Canary.
 
anything else?
@jrg Yo!
 
jrg
howdy @daviesgeek.
 
@jrg Whassup?
 
7:19 PM
How does this work?:
 
jrg
@daviesgeek Not much, you?
 
@gentmatt Can you check the suggested edits? there's one in there that I don't know about....(also my tag wiki edits :-P)
 
jrg
@gentmatt Was it marked as spam?
Oh wait, you can't see flag history.
 
@jrg School :-( and rain :-)
 
jrg
7:20 PM
Thats what happens if its flagged as spam - instant downvote and then a lock iirc.
 
@gentmatt Ping the mods
 
@jrg No idea.
 
jrg
@daviesgeek Rain?! In Sunny California? I have come to expect that in Cleveland on the Lake of Erie, but there? :P
 
@jrg HEAVY rain.
 
jrg
ew.
 
7:21 PM
It was kinda fun, until it flooded the backyard
The pump wasn't working, so I had to go fix it...not fun
 
[tag: car-integration]???
 
Who made that tag? (And how do I post a tag in chat?)
 
jrg
Guys, sandbox.

Sandbox

Where you can play with chat features (except flagging) and ch...
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Thanks ;)
 
7:26 PM
LOL!
 
jrg
12 messages moved to Sandbox
 
@jrg I know there's a sandbox :-) That's where I met you...I think...
 
jrg
MAGIC.
@daviesgeek Yeah, thats where I met you. :)
 
@jrg How'd you do that?
 
jrg
@daviesgeek Moderators = network wide chatroom owners.
 
7:27 PM
@jrg So I'll have to wait to become a mod to do that...
 
jrg
There is a "message admin" button that lets us mass delete or migrate things.
 
@jrg Cool!
 
jrg
@daviesgeek Not necessarily. You can do some things as a "room owner" - aka, migrate, pin messages etc. Can't delete them though.
 
@jrg Ah.
@gentmatt one more edit and then that weird one...
 
Bring it on.
 
7:30 PM
it's there.
@gentmatt Thanks!
 
Can't help with that. :(
 
@gentmatt Ok. I'll just let the mods handle it...
I need to get back to school.
 
oh drat
Here's the thing.
 
Who approved it?
 
That edit is correct, but it shouldn't have "this is incorrect, see next line"
I accidentally approved it before I noticed that.
/me fixes
 
7:32 PM
@jtbandes Was the edit right though?
 
Yes.
 
what's this g+w?
 
Ok. didn't know.
I GTG TTYL @all
 
g+w = add write permissions for the group
which is a chmod thing.
 
Ok. Thanks. I've never used that before.
I only change permissions like this: sudo chmod 755...
 
7:35 PM
That's the hard way :)
 
I guess I should learn more :). I'm not a programmer.
 
755 = 111 011 011 = u=rwx go=wx
I think
man chmod has a handy list.
 
@gentmatt I reported that, as the same user had posted pretty much the same answer on several threads, basically promoting that software.
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I was suspicious
 
@jtbandes you sir are an editing machine.
 
@IanC It's less impressive if you note that I was the one who approved the prior edit ;)
(Thus, I had a head start to notice there was something else to fix)
 
7:44 PM
@jtbandes :) in either case you and the other guy got a big typo. Thanks.
 
@stuffe Uuuh. The last two times I said suspicious mods pop out of nowhere :)
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We couldn't have done it without your great answer :D
 
Well, there's none on here, so if we talk about them....
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On a different actually the same note... why was I able to approve that edit by myself? On Stack Overflow it takes 2 people to approve/reject an edit.
 
I've never had to queue an approval on here
 
7:47 PM
Oh, huh.
Maybe it's only SO since they're so high-volume.
@stuffe @gentmatt What was the conclusion on that 16GB vs. 32GB discussion? I have heard that app sizes are getting huge nowadays, but I don't know how much it'd matter to me.
 
Only install apps you need. This also protects your privacy.
 
I have a 16Gb ipad 1 - 2Gb free, no retina apps.
 
@gentmatt eh? privacy? how so?
 
The only cases where I need more than 16GB is when using lots of photos, music and movies. But not apps.
 
32Gb iphone 4 - 11.8Gb used on apps - some retina
I think I will be pushing it to stay on 16Gb.
 
7:55 PM
How many apps is that?
 
@jtbandes Apps access private data. Like the address book. The more I install the more I'm likely to share such information.
 
So depending on if it's a) engraved, and b) shipped from UK or US, I will try to upgrade at the local apple store.
 
@stuffe Are those (mainly) games?
 
Can they not exchange engraved ones? That's unfortunate
Engraving is free, but makes your device non-exchangeable
 
113 aps on iphone
 
7:57 PM
 
12 games
 
What apps, if not games, require so much space?
 
@jtbandes I am not sure, but I would imagine so, if it's not faulty, they can hardly sell it again without replacing the back and then it would likely be classed refurbished
imovie is taking a lot of space.
Things like Instacast take up a lot in cached podcasts
likely instacast won't go on the new ipad tho.
instacast got up to 5Gb on cache once
currently .5 gb
Numbers and Pages are nearly 800Mb
 
That's really awful. They should fix this issue...
 
Wow. Can't wait to see how I'll cope with the <16GB on the iPad. But generally speaking, I don't require that much.
 
8:01 PM
Shouldn't be hard to at least only download resources for the particular device
Have you guys seen this?
 
Mobile Applications 2,17GB
 
add keynote (i don't have it) and iWork is nearly 1.2Gb for the set
 
@jtbandes No. If it takes one hour to watch, I won't have time before the weekend.
Speaking of weekend. Tomorrow is pre-weekend already!
 
@gentmatt Have a look at about 3:30. But you should watch it through sometime :)
 
I'll take a look at it this weekend. (bookmarks the video)
But now, I got to log off. ttyl
 
8:07 PM
bye!
WHAT IS THIS SORCERY!?
 
@gentmatt Rdio can take up a ton of space on my phone if I download songs for offline listening. It's the biggest data hog on my iDevices usually. I don't really run games...
 
8:50 PM
@jtbandes Wow, love it.
 
@stuffe Pff! I have almost 400!
 
what good job you didn't win a 16gb ipad then! ;)
 
@stuffe In total I've downloaded over 1500.
:P
 
i don't know how I would check that figure.
 
It's all AppShopper and AppZapp's fault!
@stuffe In the Purchased section.
 
8:55 PM
manually count them?
 
iPad: App Store > Purchased
iPhone: App Store > Downloads > Purchased
iTunes: iTunes Store > Purchased > Apps
There's a number.
 
no totals on iphone
 
Unfortunately, you can only count iPad or iPhone apps at once, and you can't see a combined total. You can't add them, as universal apps wreck that math.
@stuffe Oh, too bad.
Use a computer then.
@jtbandes Oh cool! I have Bump but I wasn't aware of that functionality!
 
347 and 178 (iphone/ipad) some duplicates for universals I imagine
 
So probably ≈400
@jtbandes 'Course, it's kinda obsolete with Photo Stream.
 
9:10 PM
@timothymh Is there a way yet to get an easy public link to a Photo Stream photo?
 
nyet
no web access at all, from what I am aware of
 
There's an API to get a public link to a file in iCloud
 
Gotta go - happy whatever for the rest of the night.
 
Bye.
 
9:53 PM
I have to say the ratio of the number of votes on this question to the number of votes on the accepted answer is stunning!
 

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