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01:26
@Khale_Kitha My favorite part of that post was "Pay and we will know its you. [...] Bitcoin is anonymous, nobody will ever know you cooperated." Not only because it's patently ridiculous, but because both statements can be true! XD
Although apparently not in real life, since they use the same bitcoin addresses in all their threats, according to CloudFlare blog.cloudflare.com/…
Apparently, in the original, they used unique bitcoin addresses per email they sent out
But these copiers used the same one- even later, when they did the same thing, pretending they were a DIFFERENT hacker group
(meaning they used not only the same address, per email, but the same ones from the previous scam)
They made $100k doing it, sadly.
 
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07:20
Shouldn't this be merged into the sphinx's lair or something?
I mean, it would make sense for the lounge to have the most activity
Unless The Sphinx's Lair is active enough that it would disrupt puzzle solving
08:00
@MarsUltor That one has a 30 character limit unfortunately
That one seems to split the characters into two sets
@WesleySitu ?
Hmm
it makes words out of the first 16 characters then appends those possibilities to the ones from the next 16
i'm trying to finish up Jon's puzzle if you're familiar with that
with "pairwise read provides orientations"
im pretty sure thats an anagram
@WesleySitu How sure are you it isn't actually instructions for some other text?
08:08
ummm they are instructions, but that alone isnt enough for me to justify the right path to the solution
so im also taking into account actually interlacing the string
and iirc Jon mentioned something about anagrams
Have you figured out the bijection one yet?
yes
@MarsUltor it's A->C, C->E, D->G, E->I, H->L, M->N, N->O, T->S, U ->U
08:24
@WesleySitu So do you have any idea what it's meant to be used for yet?
yes
the final step leads to "SINGLECONCLUSION"
the step before that is using WONPRAISE and AVOIDREST as coordinates
from pairwise read provides orientations
each pair of letters is a coordinate to a letter on the sudoku grid
and when you apply the bijection you'll get SINGLECONCLUSION
im missing the step before that
which is when we have the incomplete sudoku
@WesleySitu ?
with that you get S _ _ _ L _ C _ _ C ... something without enough letters to make sense out of it
which is where interlace(pairwise read provides orientations) should come in
so imagine we're starting from the state of the sudoku puzzle where we can't logically fill in any more letters
08:28
@WesleySitu The one in the CW answer?
yep
it's easy to see SINGLECONCLUSION given the completed sudoku, but its not easy to see that from the state of hte puzzle in the CW answer
hi, where can I find daily puzzles?
@JesterTran People post puzzles here daily if that's what you mean
@WesleySitu thanks. that is sufficient. I was looking for a website
@WesleySitu But what does 'orientations' have to do with the coordinates?
08:40
orientations can be interpreted as positions
and coordinates are positions
of a sort
Hmm, what clues are still unused
Just INTERLACE?
yep
thats the only one left i believe
i tried to take out words like "ordered pairs" and "wonpraise avoidrest" before placing them in the anagram solvers, but no results
also "ordinates"
KoA
KoA
08:55
o/
Does the question mark after h(a)-> have any significance?
probably is the result of the interlace
so interlace(...) -> (leads to) ? (doing something to) square
Does that mean there could be another intermediate step?
possibly....
 
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10:45
@WesleySitu are you gonna get the bounty?
11:17
Can anyone link some good examples of long/story/series puzzles? (if there are many)
11:31
Wait, wrong channel. Also, nvm
12:17
so. "lawsuit"
part of the problem with that "lawsuit" riddle is that the verb used there is "have", which no one would ever use in the context of a lawsuit.
It's disorienting that up-votes are red, now, on Puzzling, but grey (to the point of - is it clicked?) on Puzzling Meta
yeah I don't mind the coloring but the meta looks like a rainy day
ok, once again, somebody took my fake joke riddle and made it into a "real" riddle: puzzling.stackexchange.com/questions/32058/…
It literally says "I am good, but bad sometimes."
heh
not sure what you mean by someone taking your "fake joke riddle"
well
a couple of times, when I've been making fun of bad vague riddles, I've paraphrased them as "I'm good, but some people think I'm bad. I can do X, but also I can't do anything"
etc.
"I'm [thing], but also [opposite of thing]. I [do some particular action], but also [don't do that particular action]. Some people like me, others do not. What am I?"
12:31
the civil suit of Plastic bag v. Fate, 2016
thinking out loud here: I think "spaced out and obfuscated" work better, on the whole, than oppograms, since you'll know pretty quickly if you get the wrong words for the former, whereas the latter can be more of a guessing game.
it's a lot harder to "work backward" from a partial solution with an oppogram than a SO&O
don't get me wrong, I like gamow
but that's literally "here's a puzzle, by which I mean something that is very nakedly just a math problem"
as are all of those ones.
From an algebra class where the teacher requires proofs on answers.
..I thought one of the benefits of getting out of beta...
12:55
I like this answer, but if there isn't an easier one, i guess the question should have gone to mathoverflow, not puzzling. — Guntram Blohm 4 hours ago
Was the ability to migrate to sites other than meta...
It's still the only option under "off-topic"
I think that's limited to moderators
That seems...dumb. Why bother having an area to flag for something needing to be migrated if no one can use it. =D
yeah
I could be wrong, though, I don't know
Yeah, it's something with our config
At 278 rep, I just brought up the panel to flag a post on SO, and had 6 options
unless....
nope, same results between flag and close button
Odd.
Oh well - just going to ignore the puzzle, but I wanted to check.
12:58
but re: that person's comment - you know, "math problems" aren't necessarily bad - I think it's entirely possible to have what looks like a really complicated math problem but actually has a very elegant, simple solution that someone with only like, high school math could do
Yeah, that would be a puzzle. Something looks really complicated, but has a derived solution.
but most of the "math puzzles" here are just literally very very high-level math problems with a very very thin layer of abstraction on them.
this sounds like one of your fake puzzles..
"I am here, but not really"
hahaha yes
13:01
I would even consider the math stuff more limiting than the cryptography stuff, because as much as I think that "plug the numbers into the magic box" puzzles are not very fun, at least anybody can do them.
Yeah
Oh no - he posted another puzzle. Let's see...
who did?
A certain legume.
It looks like it may be similar to the question: a solution: a question one
Will have to see - but I have no idea where to begin on it, personally.
Maybe it'll be decent - will have to see
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Q: The ASCII Puzzler - Part 1

Peanuti ---> {}--{} I QQQQQQ <--> QQQQQQ I AAAAAA <--> AAAAAA I CCCCCC <--> CCCCCC Figure out the sentence using the block of text above.

cr0
cr0
hi puzzlers
cr0
cr0
13:06
I wanted to ask, ffao & f" if they were around, how they thought to take the least significant bits of each pixel on puzzling.stackexchange.com/questions/32046/little-bits-of-food
yeah, at least this one looks like it could have a decent answer
cr0
cr0
I'm a bit new to puzzling so I'm trying to think, ...how do they even think to do that? Just puzzling experience, computer science state o' mind?
"Little bits of food" is my guess, though I haven't seen the puzzle until onw
(but, @Khale_Kitha, there's always the question of whether that person even knows the answer to their question)
Previously, he has not - so we'll see.
cr0
cr0
13:07
oh yeah, "bits" in the answer
And yeah, cr0 - it's their experience with these types of puzzles and with the hints that tend to be provided for them.
I feel like - and this may just be me misremembering things - when I started here back in november or so, titles rarely meant anything
LSB, while not common to stenography is one of the simpler ones to actually accomplish (and expect that someone else will be able to decode)
I looked through a few, before doing that, on a recent puzzle of mine, because the others would have just been impossible for others to figure out without a ton of extra info.
it's entirely possible that I just showed up at a time when people were giving their puzzles completely inconsequential titles, but I feel like making your puzzle's title meaningful only caught on recently
Yeah, I think so, q_a - though not from everyone. I think it's a preference things - and sometimes it works, but...
sometimes it's just really hard to come up with a title thta DOESN'T give a hint.
Which is why many riddles tend to repeat one of their own lines.
13:09
yeah
cr0
cr0
I guess a bit part of solving (and making) puzzles is knowing the puzzling techniques, i.e. familiarity with stenography methods
I also remember a time when someone was actively going through old riddles and retitling them with something from their body
because they would just originally be titled something like "What am I? A riddle"
Also, that poster has the disadvantage....
and there would be like 300 riddles with titles like that
of the fact that f" recently dealt with LSB on my puzzle, days ago, so it may still be in his head.
lol
13:10
yeah
cr0
cr0
lol yep
thus the familiarity
And yeah, cr0 - I use it as a huge learning experience.
I've learned a great deal, both from solving/looking at puzzles, and from research on ideas for my own, since starting on this site a couple months ago.
Puzzling site looks awful now, but the chat looks great. :p
I'm still a beginner in many areas, but I'm loving what I'm learning.
Hah, glad I'm not the only one who thinks so, manshu
As for the retitling, q_a
cr0
cr0
I enjoy the mystery of riddles and some of the puzzles on here, and I'm seeing now there can be a lot to learn now too about cryptography, computer science, lateral thinking and, well, puzzling!
13:11
the only big problem I have with the redesign is all the square corners.
square corners make it look like someone took a sheet of paper and scotch-taped it to the screen
I wish someone would do that, now. I loaded up the site, the other day, and there were LITERALLY 6 puzzles in a row called "..., a riddle", or "....a word riddle" - and they had the same tags.
which corners?
ahh.
now I see,
Agreed, cr0
never noticed them in last design,
every corner visible there
13:13
haha
time to change the dp.
I mean, I'm not saying everything needs to be rounded everywhere, just that it looks really pasted-together, as it is
oh my god that unwanted guest puzzle is already up to six answers
hahha
that question sign is mine now
Bah, I hate bad UX
Like website that color their links the same as their text. (eu.evga.com/support/stepup)
ok wait
does the meta site not say meta for anyone but me?
It doesn't say for me either
13:17
Nope - they forgot it
I could have sworn it said meta after the change went through, but now it doesn't
ok I must be misremembering
I thought so, too
I just got very confused as to which of the sites I was on.
Let's see..
Nope I closed the meta tabs I had open
(ok I've got a song stuck in my head and I have no idea what it is; it's some piece of music that gets faster and faster)
13:19
Darn - EVGA still only offering the video card, lesser than mine, for stepup. (Though for EU, they do offer my card - odd)
one of these days I'll own a computer with an nvidia card/chip
@manshu I always knew you were questionable :P
@Khale_Kitha question me then :p
In the case of Fate v. Plastic Bag. I call my first witness. Manshu, please come to the stand.
comes to the stand
13:24
Slaps manshu This isn't a courtroom! Get down from there!
:P
does (Vv)p mean anything to anyone in here
These days a person can't even stand on the bus stand. :(
Sorry, I would have gone further with the joke, but I really just didn't have anywhere to go, right now :P
It was a tree stand :(
Not offhand, q_a
it was a deer stand
Is it a moped with smoke coming out the back?
13:25
hahaha
somebody responded to a jokey thing I said in the Sandbox chatroom with "because (Vv)p"
I just wondered if it had some meaning that I wasn't aware of (I'm not aware of lots of things)
I can't find anything about it, personally
Oh, I've got it.
It has to do with transmission cuts out
He said.
(V_v)p
doesn't (V_v) looks like a face
I won't vouch for anything coming from that joke of a site
13:31
aha! ty
But there's one possible
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Q: A case of academic misconduct?

cpjA friend of mine is a professor at a nearby university. Last week, he gave three of his students a simple assignment: conduct an experiment, and record the development of a single value over time. And indeed, a few days later, all of them handed him a diagram, as seen below (here edited into a si...

that one's killing me, and I want to get it, but I'm positive someone else will get it first
it's enigma...I can't do it.
lol
"enigmatic puzzles" might be the one tag that's more abused than "lateral thinking" or "logic puzzle"
who abuses the logic puzzle?
13:35
like that user named Enigma who responds to people giving reasonable answers to his puzzles with "its an enigma... theres more to it than that"
@manshu I don't know if people still do, but people used to tag just about everything with "logic puzzle" even if there was no real logic involved
ahah..
some puzzles would have both "logic puzzle" and "lateral thinking" tags, which are as close to opposites as you can get
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I must have forgotten everything.
you studied too much
We celebrated my cousins b'day yesterday. So now I am tired
But I slept for 12 hours last night. So I am waiting for another night now
13:40
oh damn, my answer was invalidated by a comment after I posted
Btw, if you look at the stars...
I accidentally almost killed poor Will, yesterday.
hahaha
yeah
saw that
@question_asker which answer?
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A: A case of academic misconduct?

question_askerBelow answer has been invalidated by a comment made after I posted He will call in because

huh...Who zooms the image before posting the answer
13:46
I mean, technically they're right (I checked), but I'm betting that most people are going to see what I see when I look at that (which is a discontinuity in the blue graph)
@question_asker I didn't even cared to read the whole question when I saw that a graph is involved in the question
Coz graph is so mathematical.
Well it looked identical to a puzzle that was posted a few days ago
um...
Yeah, just don't know where to find it - but feels the same, except it was regarding hacking grades
lol this is a bad puzzle, I'm calling it now
hoo boy
the one where an answer was selected even though it doesn't claim to be an answer because (poster believes) they don't have enough information
@question_asker This kind of puzzle?
I'm gonna say that the one I'm annoyed at right now is not plastic-bag level
but it is... annoying
btw...what is the story of Fate?
oooh boy
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Q: The hidden truth

ImUniverseSEI am the winter, the summer, the spring. I am everywhere, yet you cannot see me. I am the one who knocks at your door. I am the one who falls below. I am the who the one you never wish existed. I am death, the final unknown. I am all of these in one, what am i?

13:59
@GordonAllocman Yeah, that one

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