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Johhan Santana
Johhan Santana
2:09 AM
If it's not too much to ask, what can you guys interpret from this sentence? nihil est in hoc mundo quod amo plus quam te. I want to see if I got it correctly.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@JohhanSantana There is nothing in this clean thing / cosmos that I love more than you.
So it is correct!
The normal term for the world is orbis terrarum.
 
cmw
cmw
2:50 AM
@Cerberus I'd almost want to say "inter terras" or something like that.
 
Johhan Santana
Johhan Santana
@Cerberus awesome!
 
cmw
cmw
@tony You usually see a distributive construction with forms of alius, so something like alii alios (some do x things, others do y things).
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@cmw Hmm right! Might that not suggest that you are among the lands?
@JohhanSantana And I would probably leave our the demonstrative pronoun.
 
cmw
cmw
@Cerberus The preposition can be changed, but either mundus or orbis are just not as common designations, especially in poetry.
In terris nears 200 hits, compared to 18 for in orbe terr-.
None of it is wrong, just not as common.
 
Johhan Santana
Johhan Santana
@cmw where do you compare them to get the hits?
 
cmw
cmw
2:56 AM
@JohhanSantana PHI Latin texts: latin.packhum.org/search?q=in+terris
 
Johhan Santana
Johhan Santana
also, wouldn't it be singular as in in terrā?
@cmw thank you
 
cmw
cmw
@JohhanSantana That's more like "on land".
 
Johhan Santana
Johhan Santana
@cmw ah ok I think I get it
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
3:40 AM
@cmw Right, orbis does not sound poetic.
I now recall seeing a genitive terrarum without orbis, too, which at first looked odd to me.
I don't remember where or how often.
L&S have your in terris, as you say.
> ubi terrarum esses, ne suspicabar quidem, in what country, or where in the world, Cic. Att. 5, 10, 4, so, ubi terrarum, id. Rab. Post. 13, 37: "ubicumque terrarum", id. Verr. 2, 5, 55, 143; id. Phil. 2, 44, 113
Also this.
This is probably what I remembered.
It is under orbis terrarum.
 
cmw
cmw
4:18 AM
@Cerberus Idle thought, but I wonder if ubi terrarum is actually a partitive genitive, rather than an eclipsed orbis.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Mayhaps, but ubi is a somewhat odd word to have a partitive genitive?
Though I suppose e.g. quid novi is not entirely dissimular, at least quid is a substantive...
 
cmw
cmw
@Cerberus Could have been thought of as like quo?
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Maybe!
I wonder whether quo "whither" is ever used with a similar genitive.
But, yeah, one's first intuition seeing ubi terrarum is as ubi's functioning almost like a noun substantive.
As though it were loco.
 
cmw
cmw
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Perfect!
 
 
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Adam
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