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12:46 AM
I dont have chatjax on my phone, but does anyone know if the series $\sum_i=0^{n-1} i$ as a map from $\mathbb{N}\to\mathbb{N}$ has a left inverse
so $1\to0 , 2\to1, 3\to3, 4\to6, $ etc
Actually is that invertible on the naturals is what i meant to say
Actually does the set of all prime numbers exist in that sequence is more precise
 
no. for example, 5 is prime and not in the image of that map.
if you acknowledge the even prime, 2 is also not in the image of that map.
because it's one-to-one and not onto, there will be left inverses for it, but no unique left inverse. some arbitrary choices can be involved (e.g. if g is any given left inverse, you could redefine the value of g at 2, or at 5, and create other left inverses that are not the same as g)
 
2:05 AM
but it maps 5 to 10 which has 5 in it
i guess what im wondering is do all the primes exist in a sequence defined by the series above
0,1,1+1,1+2,3+3,6+4,10+5 etc
also is a direction field for dy/dx = f(x,y) just a graph of f(x,y) with x axis and y axis and each point is the slope
i remember seeing in class that some direction field presented to us had some arbitrary spacing between each slope point to demonstrate the solution curves pathing
ugh i guess i mean like is a direction field just y-axis is the f(x,y) function values for each x-axis value as the independent var
in other words y(x) vs x
 
2:25 AM
sorry, are you now asking if every prime appears as a prime factor of at least one of the numbers 1, 1+2, 1+2+3, ...? the answer is yes. any integer (whether prime or not) appears a divisor of infinitely many of those sums
 
2:46 AM
@ペガサスSeiya Yup. The videos were 8 years ago.
 
You remember helping me find your favorite formula?
 
I am quite confused (rightfully so due to my absence of any knowledge of this subject). Say we have Lie group SU(2) and its associated Lie algebra su(2). Then I know there is the exponential map $e: su(2) \rightarrow SU(2)$. In physics, it seems it is often written that this exponential itself acts on some Hilbert space. I am confused about explicitly what the mappings here look like
Say we have a Hilbert space $\mathcal{H}$. I assume we first define some sort of action (perhaps more particular some type of representation?) of $su(2)$ on $\mathcal{H}$ to make first contact with the Hilbert space?
and then okay, use the exponential map to go from su(2) to SU(2) and then how do we make contact from here with the hilbert space? in undergrad physics textbooks, we taylor expand the exponential, but is taylor expanding some sort of map from SU(2) back into su(2)?
 
3:12 AM
Where did you lose it?
 
@TedShifrin You're telling me you were already a Math PhD when I was just forming my first words?
Wow that makes it sound ancient
 
3:29 AM
Question: If you have a generating function for a sequence, does the behavior of that function tell you anything about the sequence? (Beyond the obvious fact that its derivatives generate the sequence, of course)
I've never quite had a primer on this topic. I've known of the existence of generating functions, but nothing more in-depth
 
suspension of a 1-sphere is a 2-sphere.
@shintuku hi!!
 
hi Koro
 
Have you studied class equations and Sylow's theorems?
 
no didn't get there yet
 
and chapter 5 or 6?
the one which is about isometries etc.
 
3:42 AM
nop nop
 
oh okay. I have also not yet studied the chapter on isometries etc. But it was covered in my class.
 
superspeed math
 
in my class things are speedun.
:-)
shin: do you know that SO(2) is isomorphic to a 1-sphere $S^1$? Infact, homeomorphic.
 
cool!
 
It is also true that SO(3) is homeomorphic to $\mathbb RP^3$!! (but I don't yet understand why this one is true)
 
3:47 AM
the moment of truth shall come, eventually
 
haha, yeah eventually as t tends to infinity.
 
@ペガサスSeiya I was probably a PhD before your parents were born.
@Koro in fact, isomorphic as Lie groups!
 
@shintuku to see that one we just map the matrix $\begin{bmatrix} \cos\theta & -\sin \theta \\ \sin\theta & \cos\theta \end{bmatrix}$ to $(\cos \theta, \sin \theta)$.
but the SO(3) part is tricky (I don't understand it yet). The book gives a proof using quaternions.
Why is cone of an n sphere is a disk in R^{n+1}?
$C(S^n)=\frac{S^n \times I}{S^n\times \{0\}}= (S^n \times I-S^n\times \{0\})^+$
+ denotes 1-pt. compactification.
So we want to know the 1-pt. compactfication of $(S^n \times (0,1])$.
 
$S^n\times(0,1]$ is $D^{n+1}-\{0\}$, draw a picture for $n=1$ to see why
 
,which I think should be the cylinder $S^n\times I$ but that is not what I want to prove.
@Thorgott ohh
 
4:02 AM
I'm a big fan of $\mathbb{RP}^3\cong SO(3)$, but I'll save discussing that for another day
(in fact, I first learned this fact in here about 2 years ago)
 
@Thorgott ahh, I think I understand. I take (x,t) to xt.
I understand it intuitively though.
it's like take a cylinder with no bottom. Break the top of the cylinder and spread it into a disk, since there is no bottom of the cylinder-it will correspond to centre of the disk.
$C(S^n)\simeq D^{n+1}$.
So the suspension is: $D^{n+1}/S^{n}\times \{1\}$
But I don't know how to simplify this further.
 
"cylinder with no bottom" sounds like a math inflected personal insult. hey, did you meet so-and-so's husband? cylinder with no bottom if i ever saw one.
did you read that "multivariable mathematics" book? no bottom to that cylinder.
 
4:18 AM
I like how one can be read as "bottomless pit" while the other can be read as "awkward person with a flat posterior" (cylinder with no bottom)
 
@leslietownes ohh I didn't know it would be interpreted that way. It was not intended of course.
 
koro: it wouldn't, that's part of my point. it just sounds like it might. in some parallel universe.
 
"Everyone knows at least one cylinder with no bottom"
 
haha
 
rithaniel has proposed at least two good potential definitions, but the term is very amenable to other interpretations.
it feels like a negative term, but for no reason at all. i love it.
 
4:26 AM
I'm still trying to understand what professor Ted meant by $S^1\times \{1\}\cup \{1\}\times S^1$.
I don't remember if this was the symbol used but this was in relation to smash products.
X/\Y = $\frac{X\times Y}{X\times * \cup Y\times *}$
Is it 'disjoint' union in the quotient?
I have actually confusion regarding the definition also.
 
@Koro Thinking of $S^1\subset \Bbb C$.
@Koro This isn’t quite right.
 
5:02 AM
My experience reading this book (Hyperbolic Knot Theory) has been: read a paragraph or two, close the book and look away, hallucinate vividly try to visualize
Non-Euclidean space be crazy
 
Horror-cycles getting to you?
 
you can't hallucinate vividly if you microdose the book, akiva. you gotta do a few chapters all at once. make sure you have a friend and a few bottles of water around, and a controlled environment.
 
@AkivaWeinberger Oh yeah
What's this book? I might want to pick it up
 
@TedShifrin And horror-spheres!
 
bro got 1 or 2 sheets of uncoated HKT for me
 
5:06 AM
@Rithaniel There's an older version on arxiv I think but I'm reading a print version courtesy of my library
It assumes you know what $\pi_1$ is
and it's probably a bonus if you've seen Not Knot at least once in your life?
@leslietownes Leslie I read 20 pages over the span of like five hours
 
Danke schön
 
Bitte
In any case, there's a certain type of topology book that I've been describing as "Being described an acid trip through text"
and I say this despite the fact that the book has pictures
Just, like, not enough lol
A Topological Picturebook also falls into that category even though it has tons and tons of pictures. I guess the pictures are incomprehensible without the text, and the text is describing stuff involving motion which is hard to do with pictures.
It's a shame The Geometry Center only ever made three videos
(Outside In, Not Knot, and The Shape of Space)
 
anyone have a reference for Carleson's theorem for Fourier (Plancherel) transforms?
 
5:23 AM
@TedShifrin * here denotes base point. That is X and Y are the pointed spaces.
I intuitively understand why S^1 smash S^1 is S^2.
 
@AkivaWeinberger I just got to the part where they rotate around the center of a face in the honeycomb of ideal dodecahedra, and then the perspective made the space look flat. I think my brain exploded
 
copper: uh, the one on pointwise convergence?
 
yup, but for the fourier transform as opposed to series
 
when i was in grad school, the method of lacey and thiele was thought of as a good approach. see mat.uab.cat/pubmat/articles/view_doi/10.5565/PUBLMAT_48204_01 (click on 'article') for an exposition by lacey of that
 
@Rithaniel Yeah, that place is called a cusp. Notice that (a) every time it continues rotating and it looks like that again, they're in a different cusp each time
and (b) if the camera went further into the cusp, the parallel-looking lines would get closer and closer together
 
5:34 AM
@leslietownes muito obrigado
 
For any epsilon, there's only a compact set of points where the epsilon-ball around it doesn't intersect other copies of itself @Rithaniel. The cusps are "thin"
@Rithaniel Or, I mean the bit at 13:50
@Rithaniel When you're in a cusp looking out, you see what looks like a "plane" made of squares. That's a horosphere, a two-dimensional subset of hyperbolic space that has the same intrinsic geometry as Euclidean space.
 
Yeah, that makes sense. From the "honeycomb of hyperbolic space" pov, you're moving further and further into an infinitely-distant corner where the dodecahedra meet, and the lines are getting arbitrarily close together
And yeah, a horror-sphere is a plane where all points are equidistant from that ideal point, right?
 
Yeah
^in the Poincaré ball model
 
I greatly enjoy hyperbolic geometry
 
In the half-space model, horospheres about the point at infinity correspond to horizontal planes, and horospheres about any other point on the ideal boundary correspond to spheres tangent to those points
The video shows "native" or "true" perspective (eg light following geodesics), but I think visualizing the half-space model is also a very important mental crutch as well
because you have coordinates so it's easier to reason about
 
5:41 AM
I'm giving a short presentation on Bernoulli numbers and, during my prep, I was trying to see if there was any connection between hyperbolic space and the coth function (if there was, I could use that to link the Bernoulli numbers to hyperbolic space and make my talk about geometry)
 
What's the connection with coth?
 
@AkivaWeinberger Oh yeah, projections are immensely useful because you can then use some intuition with Euclidean geometry
So, the generating function for the Bernoulli numbers is $\frac{x}{e^x+1}$ and you can subtract out the $B_1x$ term to get that $\frac{x}{2}\coth(\frac{x}{2})$ generates the even Bernoulli numbers
 
I was actually second guessing myself earlier about whether analyzing the generating functions really told us anything
 
I think the distance between two points in the hyperbolic ball/disk model is related to the hyperbolic tangent?
Probably if the first point is the center
@Rithaniel I'm taking a combinatorics class and let me tell you, generating functions are fantastic
Dunno how useful they are here though
@Rithaniel Oh another thing about this shot: there are infinitely many images of cusps, but because of the whole "multiple images of one object" thing you get here, there are actually only three cusps: one for each component of the Borromean rings
 
5:47 AM
@AkivaWeinberger Yep, and there are some good identities, like $\cos(\prod(x))=\tanh(x)$ (where $\prod(x)$ is the angle of parallelism at distance $x$) but now you're talking about the inverse of tanh
 
If you cut off a bit from each cusp the result is a compact set (though it looks noncompact 'cause of the repeating)
@Rithaniel Incidentally, my combinatorics professor (following the textbook) doesn't really do segues. Like, we finish counting one sort of object, then it's "Let's look at this other thing to count"
We recently did alternating permutations (like 1324 or 1423 where it goes up, down, up etc)
and the two students next to me (out of like five total) were very amused to see the generating function: $\sec x+\tan x$
"Were you not expecting it to be so simple?" I asked. "We weren't expecting it to be that," they replied
(Exponential generating function, so you divide by $n!$ first)
Here was the first p-set by the way
(Ignore the bizarre typos in #10)
 
That first problem is great
 
Questions 3, 5d, and 6 were pretty cool I thought. I wrote about 7c earlier (I couldn't find an elegant way but someone else online figured it out). 9b was somewhat interesting.
For question 3, it's like 136245 - the only "descent" is 62
I didn't use generating functions in this p-set, though
I guess it's just a warm-up
 
Yeah, that one would take a bit of care to get, but it does seem fun
I assume the first one is just "permute the letters, don't worry if it's an actual word in the dictionary"
 
Oh, I assume.
We've been using "word" in the combinatorial sense in class for a while.
(sequence of symbols)
 
5:55 AM
(It would be a much funnier problem if you assumed it had to be a word in some language)
 
Every sequence of letters is pronounceable if you're not a coward
 
Is S considered distinct from s?
@AkivaWeinberger Yaknoyaright
 
Good question
Question 2 would have been fun but I'd seen it before. Question 6 is fun despite the fact that I've seen it before.
 
Those are always the best, when you have a problem that you've done before, but you know it's going to be a fun one
(Alright, 1am for me. I'm gonna catch some Zs)
 
@Koro If I remember correctly, you reversed the order in the direct product.
 
6:14 AM
My uni is trying to complete analysis, until Riemann and lebesgue integration within the next month. Where are they? Barely completed series
 
7:01 AM
@AlessandroCodenotti
Can you please give me a reference from where I can study pushout diagrams?
What is the meaning of: Z is a pushout of $Y\leftarrow A\rightarrow X$?
nvm, I got it :-)
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Q: Let $Z=$pushout$(Y\leftarrow A\rightarrow X)$, then prove that $Z\times W=$pushout$(Y\times W\leftarrow A\times W\rightarrow X\times W)$

MathBSLet $Z$ be the pushout of the diagram $\require{AMScd}$ \begin{CD} A @>{f}>>X\\ @V{g}VV @VVV\\ Y @>>> Z \end{CD} $Z$ is defined to be $Z:=(X\sqcup Y)/f(a)\sim g(a)\ \forall a\in A$ Let $W$ be any space. Then Prove that $Z\times W$ is pushout of the following diagram $\require{AMScd}$ \begin{CD} A...

 
i was gonna say, it's defined in the question
 
yeah. I understood the definition from there.
 
it's a special case or concrete realization of a more general categorical concept, but i don't know if knowing that would help here
 
I studied about categories a bit. $C$ is a category. Then we talk about $A\in $obj(C). I don't understand 1) why not say $A\in C$, 2) how is a class different from a set?
 
i'm not someone who ever cared professionally about this stuff, but i think the reason of distinguishing obj(C) and C is that a category is more than (i.e. not just determined by) its objects
and informally a class can be "bigger" than a set but sometimes, depending on the category, those collections are sets
 
7:12 AM
So can I just say: C is just a symbol and its contents (whatever they are) lie in obj(C)?
 
e.g. the underlying set in a group structure can be essentially any set at all, so 'the collection of all groups' might contain within it 'the set of all singleton sets', 'the set of all two element sets,' etc and none of these are actually 'sets'
please don't take advice from me on what you can just say in category language, but if you insist, i would suggest avoiding it until it seems like you're wasting more time and space by avoiding it than you would be by using it
 
@leslietownes what is 'bigger' than a set? I mean there is no bound on the cardinality of a set. Given a cardinality a, we always have a larger cardinality $a^a$.
 
koro none of it will make any sense unless and until you study axiomatic set theory. it is necessarily part of a formal discussion, not an informal discussion. hence the use of quotes around 'bigger'
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Q: Why does the set of all singleton sets not exist?

yunoneProposition: For a set $X$ and its power set $P(X)$, any function $f\colon P(X)\to X$ has at least two sets $A\neq B\subseteq X$ such that $f(A)=f(B)$. I can see how this would be true if $X$ is a finite set, since $|P(X)|\gt |X|$, so by the pigeonhole principle, at least two of the elements in $...

 
@leslietownes ah, I see.
 
see the multitude of answers to that, with people bringing up all kinds of crazy crap about what you need to assume to get it or not and what it's consistent with.
 
7:16 AM
Thanks for the link. I think it will also help me understand why 'collection of all topological spaces' is not a set.
 
but "the set of all one-element groups" is probably not a thing in what many people think of as informal set theory.
and you fix this, not by not thinking about it, but by not saying "set" when you do think about it.
 
ok so for me I assume regularity axiom i.e., a set cannot be its own element.
I'll now look at the link.
 
and yeah, its the exact same phenomenon, why the collection of all topological spaces is not a set, as people usually think of that term.
 
The intuitive description is "you have a copy of A in X and one in Y. To obtain Z you glue X and Y together along those two copies of A" @Koro
So for example if A is a singleton you get the one-point union of the two spaces
 
 
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8:51 AM
Is Jacobson's book 'Basic algebra I, II' good? I'm mainly focusing on Module theory and representation of finite groups. I'm avoiding Dummit Foote and Lang's algebra textbooks. I felt it was more like an encyclopedia.
 
 
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11:15 AM
@onepotatotwopotato For modules?
 
11:26 AM
we do write $A\in\mathcal{C}$ all the time in the context of categories, it's just notational abuse
 
12:07 PM
ohh
thanks :-).
Suppose that D is disk, S is solid torus (that is the ends of a cylinder identified via identity map). I have shown that $S$ is homeomorphic to $D^2\times S^1$.
How do I show that the boundary of $D^2\times D^2$ is $\partial D^2\times D^2\cup D^2 \times \partial D^2$?
actually I have no idea about how to show this.
 
12:24 PM
I think I don't know what boundary of a space is.
I do know what is meant by boundary of a subset of a space.
 
12:59 PM
@TedShifrin My dad was born in the 70s
 
1:10 PM
well, $D^2\subseteq\mathbb{R}^2$, so $D^2\times D^2\subseteq\mathbb{R}^4$ and you should interpret boundary that way
more generally, you can show that if $A\subseteq X$ and $B\subseteq Y$, the boundary of $A\times B\subseteq X\times Y$ is $\partial A\times B\cup A\times\partial B$ (where $\partial A$ is the boundary of $A$ in $X$ and $\partial B$ the boundary of $B$ in $Y$)
there's an intrinsic notion of boundary for manifold that is related to this one and yields the right result for $D^2\times D^2$, but you need not worry about this
 
1:22 PM
@Thorgott you know some python?
 
1:46 PM
@Thorgott isn't it true only for closed A and B?
because in general I'm getting: $\partial (A\times B)= (\partial A\times \bar B)\cup (\bar A\times \partial B)$.
Here is my working: $\partial (A\times B)= \frac{\bar A\times \bar B}{A^o\times B^o}$. Take any (x,y) in this. Then either $(x\in \bar A, x\notin A^o, y\in \bar B)$ or $(x\in \bar A, y\notin B^o, y\in \bar B)\implies (x,y)\in (\partial A\times \bar B)\cup (\bar A\times \partial B).$
the other direct can also be shown. This proves the equality.
Indeed, this answers my question as well.
Thanks a lot @Thorgott for suggesting the generalisation.
 
2:16 PM
@Koro good catch and you even figured out how to correct my statement
@JackOhara no
 
2:46 PM
@Thorgott: can you please advice where I can learn this math.stackexchange.com/questions/4158852/…?
 
that claim is wrong, as the comments indicate
 
in what chapter do pushouts appear?
 
Can someone explain why Cylinder double covers Mobius strip?
 
what chapter of what?
 
what are pushouts? I saw one definition but then why the diagram is required. What does it do?
@Thorgott I want a reference which explains pushouts so that I can learn them.
 
2:52 PM
@MagnusAlexander put two copies of the fundamental square of a Möbius strip next to another and glue them, you will obtain the fundamental square of a cylinder
@Koro surely the relevant definitions are in every general topology textbook
the diagram just organizes the data
I guess there is a point at which, depending on context, you have to decide whether you wanna talk about "the pushout" or "a pushout"
 
@Koro They're some kind of thing defined by some sort of universal property, so that a square of some kind commutes, or something like that. :P
 
@XanderHenderson thanks. My confusion is: does the diagram commute or not?
 
yeah, it depends on what you wanna do
you either just want a topological model for gluing spaces or you want a thing obeying a universal property
 
here in the definition
 
all diagrams commute
 
2:58 PM
@Koro Every diagram commutes.
Drat. Too slow.
 
you don't have to learn what a homotopy pushout is yet :P
 
thanks :-).
 
No diagram commute
 
Hi @DLeftAdjointtoU!!
 
They all work from home
@Koro high
how is abstract algebra going?
I flunked out of our study session, but I've been reading some out of Weibel
 
3:00 PM
@Thorgott Wow, thank you! I was trying to figure this out by drawing both figures, but it seemed impossible
 
Bootstrap Studio to Django exporter I've been coding on
 
@DLeftAdjointtoU I haven't studied abstract algebra in last few weeks.
 
@DLeftAdjointtoU I have been told that suspending users for bad puns is an "abuse of power". :(
 
Nice, what you studying?
 
algebraic topology, functional analysis
 
3:01 PM
I study commutative diagrams, and none of them commute, it was a lie from Euclid's time
J/k
:D
 
number theory and complex analysis.
 
Nice nice
Did you check out Serge Lang's complex analysis book?
It also goes into a bit of number theory
he's also got an AnT book
but complex analysis is needed first no matter what why you partition it
 
ohh. I haven't checked that one out yet. I'm studying from Stein and Shakarchi's complex analysis.
 
Blue book?
 
yeah
 
3:04 PM
Princeton series?
I hate that one
I forgot why
 
right
 
But if you like it, it's your flavor
 
I also follow Churchil and Brown's complex analysis :-).
I studied from it during my undergraduation.
 
@DLeftAdjointtoU Heh. I love that series, but I can certainly see reasons to hate it, too.
I have always felt like it was written by two people who barely talked to each other.
 
LOL
One day I'm going to make a website
for math
but just arrows and objects and few elementary expressions
 
3:06 PM
all the best !
 
Memgraph + BSS + Django
Iow, not for all math, like Metamath tries to be, but for just chases in module categories or something
 
One day I'm going to study Freitag's complex analysis.
 
Sweet
:D
Is it advanced?
 
that's the book that was used when I took complex analysis
 
:D
@copper.hat I don't like how you call badges gamification.
They barely qualify!
Badges and voting I mean.
Gamification has to make a game out of learning something.
 
3:12 PM
@DLeftAdjointtoU Badges are an aspect of gamification.
 
Yes, sure, but who needs badges
It's about the game
 
They are a gamey reward for performing certain actions on the site.
 
I get weird badges sometimes, as if the MSE overlords are spying on us
 
Also, I think that your definition of gamification is too narrow. Gamification is about adding game-like incentives to a system in order to encourage people to engage and participate.
It is often used in education, but is broader than that.
E.g., the SE model, which uses game-ified incentives to get people to post content (reputation, badges, etc).
 
When you're right, you're right. I'm just still peeved that I googled Django gamification engine and all that came up were several GH projects with badges
 
3:14 PM
Heh.
 
I was expecting a Duo Lingo clone or something, but maybe that would be a huge project
 
I also used the blue book for complex analysis but I prefer Gamelin's complex analysis.
 
Gamification is a must, because there's lots of gamers out there and lots of unsolved, very computationally difficult problems
Gamelin, whoa, we were just talking about games
I bet that brotha could gamify some sh*t in 'is day.
/social back to work =)
 
4:21 PM
“We don’t need no stinking badges!”
 
@TedShifrin What a great movie.
 
I figured only you would get it!
 
orange jumpsuits are the well-known aspect of gamification
the -> a. no editing in phone mode, it seems
 
4:44 PM
@TedShifrin "I had a lot more fun teaching analysis in the context of Spivak"
Would you recommend reading Spivak cover to cover for a math major and attempt all problems, or is there anything you would skip?
 
4:57 PM
I prefer my food cold
And my ice creams warm
 
@robjohn Hello
@robjohn I kinda need your help with something
 
5:29 PM
@ILikeMathematics If you really want to learn a topic, and you don't have an instructor or advisor to guide you, then I would recommend that you work through at least one text on a given topic in detail, but also keep a couple of other texts on hand to skim through or use as references. Work through as many exercises as you can, as this will build your "mathematical muscles". And don't get so hung up on which book you are reading. Just pick one, and get to work.
 
anyone who knows python here by any chance?'
 
@JackOhara 20 years ago, I toyed around with python for sh*ts and giggles. I don't recall any of it any longer. Have you tried StackOverflow?
 
@ILikeMathematics Definitely there are things to skip. I would skip the appendices to chapter 4, chapter 15-17, 21, unless you're particularly interested. The course I taught stopped at chapter 24. There are plenty of exercises, but do selected "routine" ones — not all — and watch out for exercises with two and three stars.
Those are probably too hard, although most are quite interesting.
 
@XanderHenderson i need to get reputation to chat there
so annoying ! haha
 
@leslietownes sorry im still on my phone cant find my last message: This doesnt seem trivial to me. As the sequence continues you have larger gaps between elements. It's like leapfrogging in the natural numbers if theres a chance you dodge a prime number forever how would you prove that
 
5:43 PM
We can give you a letter of disrecommendation, @Jack :D
 
@TedShifrin haha no I am good thanks!
 
also what is this style of problem called
 
@MagnusAlexander Are you drawing the pictures of a Möbius strip and cylinder in terms of a rectangle with edges identified appropriately?
 
I did that, like Thorgott told me, and it worked out good. Thanks
 
sequence is [0,1,3,6,10,15,...,n_i,n_i + i,...] @leslietownes
 
5:46 PM
Oh, I didn't see that he had responded. Great.
 
6:43 PM
Does matrix multiplication define a way to get the total number of unique combinations of elements of matrices
 
What are you talking about?
 
(Yeah, that question could use a little clarification)
What advice do you guys usually give to students who have trouble reading texts?
 
@Rithaniel Like they don’t spend time or they have no comprehension?
 
@TedShifrin They have difficulty focusing. They set aside a few hours and only get through a few pages
 
@Obliv there is a well known formula for the kth term of the sequence as an explicit polynomial function of k. i would prove the results we were discussing earlier using that formula.
 
6:54 PM
@Rithaniel A few pages in a few hours doesn't sound unreasonable to me...
 
Yeah, this is the new gen. No attention span. It has to be on YouTube. I wonder if they have ever read a novel.
 
(Depending on what is meant by "a few").
 
it also depends on the text. that could be pretty bad progress for a modern calculus text.
 
@XanderHenderson Like, five pages
 
although it is not unheard of for a student to say "i spent _ hours and still have no idea", where _ is, uh, somewhat larger than the time actually spent.
 
6:55 PM
Math book reading requires paper & pencil, plus brain.
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@Obliv see e.g. oeis.org/A000217 (and the resources linked there) or en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangular_number
 
@Rithaniel When I read mathematical publications, I consider one page per hour to be a not entirely unreasonable pace. It often takes that long to actually work through and understand what is going on. I usually shoot for 2-3 pages per hour.
I don't see any reason to expect students to be able to go any faster.
And, as Ted says, you read with pen and paper.
 
Fair enough (also, this student is actually me)
(and yes, I have no attention span)
 
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