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12:10 AM
Hey everyone!
 
hi Demonark
 
How's it going?
 
Hello everyone .. can anyone help me to figure out the difference between non -degenerate limit and non -degenerate random variable ? thank you
 
anyone know graph theory
 
 
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5:21 AM
Anyone know why we need the function notation $(f+g)(x)$ versus $f(x)+g(x)$? That is, what's the difference in the two notations?
 
The map $f+g : A \to B$ which sends $ x \mapsto (f+g)(x)$ is such that $(f+g)(x)$ is defined as $(f+g)(x) = f(x) + g(x)$
 
5:49 AM
Can you explain that in plain language? I still don't quite understand the difference.
Is it something like $f+g$ is the name of the new function, whose variable is $x$, and the new function is created by the operation of adding two functions $f(x)+g(x)$?
 
6:33 AM
my name's jeff lol
he's saying they're the same
 
d e d m e m e
 
no u
 
6:47 AM
U got me
Right now cant think of a response
Maybe I lose
On the other hand
My word of condolence
Gotcha
Another word is needed...
Yolo
 
what is this sorcery
 
7:00 AM
@TedShifrin Thank you very much for your help. Thank you very much.
 
7:45 AM
@BalarkaSen Never mind I don’t get it
Or maybe I’m too dumb
Unicorns might be related though
 
Only people of high IQ will understand what I said
 
:)
 
read vertically
 
read vertically
 
*red
did u try first letters
 
7:48 AM
read my response vertically :)
 
OH shit
Fuckin
@LeakyNun give me some of your IQ points senpai
 
lol
 
8:07 AM
We're gathered here today to mourn the loss of Balarka, savagely rekt in chat
 
8:34 AM
@Alessandro I will have my revenge
 
only soy boys watch sherlock
(gottem, by the way)
my vengeful revenge has been accomplished
 
lol
 
 
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10:27 AM
Hi, how do you know that the set defined by $x(y^2-x)=0$ has vertical lines at $x=0$?
For $x \neq 0$ I can divide by $x$ and see that $y=\pm \sqrt{x}$. But how do I see what it does at $x=0$?
 
@philmcole if $x=0$ then $x(y^2-x) = 0$
 
Ah and $y$ can be whatever it wants. I see, thanks.
 
10:52 AM
hi leakynun and all!
hi @anon! Saw your also interested in the "Mochizuki case".
 
 
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12:04 PM
@Eulb Hi Jeff. I had gone to bed. So what's the use or advantage of the different notations? Surely it's not for the sole purpose of confusing students?
 
12:35 PM
@BalarkaSen, if differentiable function $f$ is $\Bbb R\to\Bbb R$, then we can talk about whether derivative continuous or not. But can we do something similar with total derivatives? I am not sure because, now derivative at each point itself is a function.
 
1:05 PM
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Q: Learning math historically

Alex K ChenWhat is meant by learning math historically (not learning math history only, but learning math with a historical development perspective)? I've seen some sources say that to learn a math topic X, you need to look at the historical development of the topic X and go over the famous questions by yo...

 
1:24 PM
Claim: If $X$ is a topological space and $(A,B)$ a separation, then $X$ intersects both sets in the intersection. Proof: Suppose that $X \cap A = \emptyset$. Then $X = X-(X \cap A) = (X-X) \cup (X-A) = X-A$ and therefore $A \subseteq A \cup B = X = X-A$, which is absurd. Hence, $X \cap A \neq \emptyset$. The same work shows that $X \cap B \neq \emptyset$...How does that sound?
 
what is a separation?
 
@LeakyNun There is now a FAQ page at the site, and I've adjusted the (+) notation we discussed
 
wtf @rschwieb
 
beg pardon?
 
@LeakyNun $A$ and $B$ are open, disjoint sets such that $X = A \cup B$.
 
1:26 PM
Welcome To the Forum i hope?
 
I hadn't even started typing when you tagged me, and you posted the message immediately after I posted mine :o
@user193319 just that?
 
Yes, I believe that's the whole definition.
 
can A and B be empty?
> Do all the rings here have identity?
Yes: the reason is that a great deal of the logic connecting properties here uses the assumption that the ring has identity.
no, the right reason is that the other rings don't exist
 
Whoops, forgot that! They cannot be empty.
 
@user193319 and A and B are subsets of X?
 
1:28 PM
Yup!
 
so $X \cap A = A$?
 
Hmm...you're right...Perhaps the result should be rephrased in terms of subspaces of $X$, say $Y \subseteq$, so that $A$ and $B$ are not necessarily subsets of $Y$. I think the same proof works in that case, right?
 
no
take Y=B
 
Something can't be right then...If $Y=B$, I don't see how $(A,B)$ could be an actual separation of $Y$.
 
please rephrase your question precisely
 
1:34 PM
@LeakyNun heh
@LeakyNun You might change your mind when you see Smoctunowicz's simple nil ring
 
@rschwieb redet Sie Deutsch?
@rschwieb where?
 
I can't speak german, no. I could only guess at meanings
I had to request a copy through my library
 
hmm
 
@LeakyNun But maybe your institution has access: tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1081/AGB-120006478
oo, I'll have to get my hands on this: tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/… I had not heard about it
Actually, I'm no longer certain the second paper refers to the same example as the first
It seems that people who come up with amazing examples usually come up with more than one (e.g. Bergman)
Yup: I made a mistake: the second paper is about a different example, although I should get that one too :)
 
 
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2:47 PM
Anyone have a good feeling for how cohomology works?
Really broad ideas
 
@rschwieb What kind of cohomology do you have in mind
 
@BalarkaSen I don't know anything really about homology or cohomology of any sort. Just a few abortive attempts to read it back in the day
I had a lot of basic homological algebra but never developed a good feeling for using it
 
I mostly think about singular cohomology of topological spaces. The intuition I have in mind is it extracts out the cochain complex $C^\bullet(X)$ from a given topological space $X$ where elements of $C^k(X)$ ("$k$-cochains on $X$") are functions on the "$k$-skeleton of $X$"
If $X$ is a simplicial complex, then this "$k$-skeleton of $X$" is nothing but the union of $k$-simplices of $X$.
Think of piecewise linear functions on $X$ if you like
 
3:11 PM
So "homology" is a topic, "chain complexes" each have "homologies", and "cochain complexes" each have "cohomologies"
and I can think about homology/cohomology of a complex as a linear approximation of sorts?
 
It's never clear to me how algebraists think of homology of a chain complex. I will inevitably think of cobordisms when I think about it
 
> It's never clear to me how algebraists think of homology of a chain complex.
we think of them in terms of the axioms :)
 
It's tough not to have any handhold in a new discipline
 
I like to use the long exact sequence
 
@BalarkaSen Recently I learned how an algebraic result about group rings had some reflection in group cohomology, and I wished I understood more. mathoverflow.net/q/297043/19965
 
3:28 PM
I suspect there are many ways to understand group cohomology
I only know of one or two
 
Can group co/homology be described purely in terms of co/homology on the modules of group rings? or is it different?
 
It can be described as cohomology of a resolution of the group ring, yes (or equivalently Ext or Tor over a group ring)
 
4:15 PM
Excuse me, I come for a reference request. I finished my first linear algebra course and I would like to brush up on linear maps and projections because I feel I didn't really understand them
Does anyone have a book to recommend?
 
@JakeS I would recommend Kaplansky's Linear algebra and geometry: a second course
 
Thank you! I'll look into it.
 
I think one intuition for many stuff in derived functor cohomology is to measure how far away a left/right exact functor is from being exact

e.g. often in AG people you want to understand global sections, and cohomology inevitably comes up because the global section functor is not right exact

same goes with Tor, Ext etc.
 
It's both inexpensive and a pretty good book.
@loch I understand the face value of that, but can you give me an intuition for what "far from exact" and "close to exact" means for functors?
"close to exact" mostly means a close reflection of properties on both ends of the functor, right?
 
So, for reference, apparently number theory often cares about group cohomology with a focus on H^2, for the sake of group extensions
 
4:28 PM
@loch Btw, I think I saw you register at the DaRT site :) any plans to submit a ring suggestion? Your help, especially with commutative algebra would be appreciated.
i'm at a little bit of a disadvantage because I don't know a lot of AG. I don't know how to wield the weapons of homological algebra... I mainly engage problems with fisticuffs.
Not that I don't appreciate examples given in that vein... I'll probably eventually catch onto them!
 
@rschwieb We are dual; I can't do anything down to earth with rings. :)
 
@Daminark, will you please look at this:
4 hours ago, by Silent
@BalarkaSen, if differentiable function $f$ is $\Bbb R\to\Bbb R$, then we can talk about whether derivative continuous or not. But can we do something similar with total derivatives? I am not sure because, now derivative at each point itself is a function.
 
4:47 PM
Okay so
Let's say you have a smooth function $\mathbb{R}^n \to \mathbb{R}^m$
Then the derivative of the function at a point is a linear map $\mathbb{R}^n \to \mathbb{R}^m$
So the map that takes in a point $p$ and spits out $Df(p)$ is a function from $\mathbb{R}^n$ to $\mathcal{L}(\mathbb{R}^n,\mathbb{R}^m) \cong \mathbb{R}^{nm}$
That's the analog of thinking about $f'$ as a function $\mathbb{R}\to\mathbb{R}$. So this does allow you to talk about a function's derivative as itself being a continuous/differentiable function
 
@JakeS: I'll also add some self-horn-tooting and suggest my Linear Algebra book with M. Adams. (I'm assuming you can find it in a college library, rather than buying it.) We do lots more than most books with geometric stuff, and there are several discussions of linear maps and projections.
howdy, Demonark
 
How's everything going Ted?
 
@Silent: To add to Demonark's reply, you can also then think about differentiating the function $g(p) = Df(p)$ as a map $g\colon \Bbb R^n\to \mathscr L(\Bbb R^n,\Bbb R^m)$. This will be the second derivative, and the deep result is that when you view $Dg(p)$ as a linear map $\Bbb R^n\to \mathscr L(\Bbb R^n,\Bbb R^m)$, you can associate this to a bilinear map $\Bbb R^n\times\Bbb R^n\to\Bbb R^m$, and, as such, it is symmetric.
pretty well, Demonark, and how's your summer research going?
 
5:10 PM
Heya chat.
 
heya @Fargle
 
Ooof, actually, make that "heya chat in about ten minutes".
Gotta run
 
Figures.
 
:|
 
Hey @Fargle! In 10 minutes
@Ted it's going quite well. Right now I'm reading some algebraic number theory, after which I'll get to the main paper I'm reading, on Kronecker-Weber for $\mathbb{Q}(i)$
 
5:24 PM
Cool stuff. Good thing you have Mathein to chat with about these things :P
Did I miss anything interesting in my week-long absence?
 
Haha, this is definitely true
Hmm, I'm not on as much, and when I am on I usually just tab in for a second to see what's up, maybe say hi to people, then tab out. So with that noted, I haven't seen much go on
 
Well, I just can't count on you ... Sigh. :D
I assume no luck with the police.
 
Nope, and they did say that in all likelihood at this point the guy doesn't even have the laptop anymore. So I got my dad's old chromebook that I'll be using for the time being
 
Ah, that's good. Lesson learned.
(On the latter, not the former.)
 
Yeah
Anything interesting going on on your side?
(I thought "that that" was bad enough and now we have "on on")
 
5:37 PM
Nah, puzzling over an answer on main at the moment. (Can't figure out how to get two "over"s.)
 
Which question?
 
Hey all
 
@Daminark What kind of ANT?
 
Neukirch chapter 1
Hey Semi, Erik, and Alessandro!
 
I think what "far from exact" and "close to exact" means for functors kind of depends on context --- for example something similar to what @Daminark - but for modules, is that if you have two $A$-modules $M,N$, then $Ext^1_A(M,N)$ is in bijection with short exact sequences of the form
$$0\rightarrow N \rightarrow P \rightarrow M \rightarrow 0$$
up to isomorphism.

So here how far away $Hom_A(-,N)$ is away from being right exact is the same thing as saying how many ways can you have an exact sequence of the above form (if Ext is trivial, then $P$ is isomorphic to $M\oplus N$.
 
5:40 PM
@Daminark Cool, I read a little bit of it
 
Question: Is there a word for a 1-dimensional slice? I have a solid with a line going through it. The word slice (to me) conjures up a 2-dimensional (planar) section, is there an analogous word for slice for the 1-dimensional case?
 
interval?
or just 'segment'
 
@Semiclassic: this one.
hi again, demonic @Alessandro
hi @loch
 
@Semiclassical thanks!
 
5:42 PM
hi @TedShifrin
 
Nice! But yeah I haven't made much progress, Mathein told me some stuff on DC but in terms of working through things carefully and all I basically just made it through a section and a half. Hopefully I can get through a few more, and ideally reach ramification and the like soon
 
@TedShifrin thx
 
@Semiclassic: i've never thought about scaling the polar variable $\theta$. If anything, I'm inclined to say we should scale with $1/2$ rather than $2$ here. I'm in the middle of writing my fourth paragraph or so. :)
 
neat
I'd more have expected some kind of offset in $\theta$, since (at first glance) that looks like some ellipse with rotated axes
 
It's very much not an ellipse, but, yes, an offset is what we get.
 
5:46 PM
oh, ^4
yeah, fair
 
One thing I will say, I think Neukirch tends to multiply vectors on the left which threw me off
He wrote a matrix for something and it was the transpose of mine
 
I'm back!
 
@Daminark so his vectors are row vectors by default?
 
So it seems. I've only seen one instance of this
So it's possible this was a typo or something
 
@Daminark Imho Neukirch goes really fast in the first few sections if you're not a bit familiar with the material already
 
5:47 PM
The fact that certain authors default to row vs. column vectors probably has some historical roots
 
@Daminark My abstract algebra professor does as well, maybe it's an algebraists's thing
 
could be worse. could be talking about (reverse) polish notation
 
Now that @Fargle is back, it's clearly time for Ted to leave. :P
 
:(
 
Rip
 
5:50 PM
@Alessandro, Demonark: Actually, computer science folks (doing computer graphics) do row vectors and right multiplication. I've never quite known why.
Aw @Fargle. You wanna talk to me? :)
 
@Semiclassical I've encountered logic textbooks using $\to\phi\psi$ rather than $\phi\to\psi$ because clearly using prefix notation is waaaaaay less of a pain than having to write brackets
 
lol, well, maybe not in particular. I just like going around and being offended by things.
 
So I programmed in Racket for a little bit and you used Polish notation, but you still used parentheses (the joke, or maybe not even joke, is that racket is supposed to say "bracket")
 
@Semiclassic: I don't think the fourth power is relevant. I said in my answer that perhaps the difference in degrees of homogeneity of the two sides should lead to an $\alpha$, but I don't believe it now.
 
So it was (+ 2 3) for 2+3
 
5:51 PM
Well, @Fargle, geez, I should have plenty of offense in the bank by now! :P
 
@Daminark parenthesis should be superfluous in rpn
 
@loch hmmmmmm
 
@Fargle: Whenever you wanna chat analysis or geometry, I'm at your disposal. Oh, or algebraic topology if the pros aren't here.
 
I guess my line of attack would be to rescale the axes and then rotate by 45 degrees
 
Does algebraic geometry count?
 
5:52 PM
and see what it looks like in those coordinates
 
You're up to algebraic geometry now? How so?
 
One thing which I wonder actually, what tends to make people want to do topology over geometry and vice versa?
 
@rschwieb I guess what I'm trying to say is that I think the failure of exactness of functors manifests itself in different ways depending on context
 
Yeah, functors can have many different shapes
 
@Daminark topology is too hard :(
 
5:53 PM
@TedShifrin By way of Reid's UAG, which I'm reading alongside Atiyah-Macdonald and some other stuff
 
Demonark: I was never particularly drawn to topology ... I liked the interplay of complex variables and differential geometry.
 
@loch How many useful, practical, distinct functors do you have to keep in mind?
 
Interesting question @Daminark, no idea, but I know for sure I prefer topology
 
Oh, @Fargle, well, as you know, algebra isn't my strength, but I know some of the stuff in Reid.
 
@Daminark I don't know which, or whether, I prefer.
 
5:54 PM
@Fargle: You still haven't learned much geometry :P
Do you have one more year of school?
 
I haven't learned much topology either.
 
@Fargle If you like Reid's UAG he also has a commutative algebra book which is less terse than AM
 
One more class, one more semester.
 
Oh, not much.
 
@rschwieb Hmm off the top of my mind in AG the derived functors that usually show up are sheaf cohomology H^i, Ext , Tor, higher direct images etc.
 
5:54 PM
@AlessandroCodenotti Yeah, I've seen UCA--I didn't take to it last time, but I can take another look.
 
@Alessandro: Way less terse is Eisenbud.
But he has so many examples of things ...
I wish I had held on to my copy.
 
@loch Does scalar extension fit in as a special case of one of those?
taht and localization
I think if I could look at those through the lens, I might learn something
 
I'm not sure why I didn't take to it. Maybe I accidentally forgot the woffle was a woffle and got intimidated?
 
yeah - after all scalar extension is just taking tensor products

I guess so is localization (although localization is exact - so in that sense derived functors don't really show up)
 
@Semiclassic: If you have any improvements or ideas on that post, I'll be glad to amend.
 
5:59 PM
@TedShifrin Yeah but Eisenbud is a huge book, while AM and Reid's are small and short, despite having a lot of stuff
 
I'll see what comes to mind
the fact that the left-hand side is a function of $x+y$ is what suggests "rotate by 45 degrees"
 
(notably Reid omits tensor products though)
 
@Semiclassic: Yes, of course. I made that point eventually :P
I can't see why the difference in exponents is helped by scaling $\theta$.
 
@Alessandro: Mostly, students complained about my texts that I didn't do enough examples (even though I thought I did plenty) ...
 
6:01 PM
it's just not that natural for the kind of problem being done
 
Yours meaning, the ones you wrote?
 
I suppose an appropriate scaling will turn $\pi/4$ into $\pi$ ... so maybe that simplifies things?
Yeah, Demonark.
 
I like books with the important examples (rather than no examples at all), but I also like having to think about (counter)examples myself sometimes
 
If I substitute $x=a(u-v)/\sqrt{2}$, $y=b(v+u)/\sqrt{2}$ (I can't remember if that's the canonical rotation by 45 degrees, but close enough)
 
6:04 PM
I really like it when an author introduces important examples (and sometimes even important theorems!) as guided exercises and lets the reader work through them (Of course that's risky because people might just skip the exercises :/ )
 
@Semiclassic: Sure, that's the rotation.
 
then $(x/a+y/b)^4=4xy$ becomes $4u^4=2ab(u^2-v^2)$
 
@Alessandro: Jeanne Clelland's new book on geometry done with moving frames is exactly that. @EricSilva loves it. I was a reviewer for it and made various suggestions, but that style is better for beginning grad students than for typical (US) undergrads.
 
which has reflection symmetry along the two axes
 
@Semiclassic: Which turns into the trig in my answer. :P
 
6:06 PM
which in turn means that it's enough to look at the first quadrant, corresponding to an angular range 0<theta<pi/2
that's where I could see maaaybe an advantage to rescaling the angle
 
So the double-angle is natural on the RHS of what you wrote, but doesn't help when you put it on the left as well :P
 
@TedShifrin Interesting! I was thinking about Shoenfield's logic book, he put results as important as Łoś's Theorem as a guided exercise!
 
well, and of course there's Halmos's Hilbert Space Problem Book.
 
there's a name for this figure as well, which I'm forgetting
 
I don't know it, Semiclassic.
 
6:09 PM
it comes out looking like a figure eight, at least when a,b>0
 
Yeah, flatter than most :P
 
Somehow I never found myself using books that much, I will say Schlag's psets second quarter of analysis were often of that sort
 
@TedShifrin never heard of it, but I like Halmos's style, I'll see if I can find a copy!
 
Like, I reference so many of his pset problems, more than anyone else's
 
As you've heard me say, Demonark, problem sets/exercises are what makes a course/textbook great. I mean, the text/lectures are significant, too, but ...
 
6:15 PM
@TedShifrin I am sorry, but which symmetry are you talking about?
 
Oh, that bilinear form is symmetric (in the two vectors in the product in the domain).
That's a fancy way of saying mixed partial derivatives are equal for a reasonable function.
But if $g$ is differentiable, it gives you that symmetry.
Hmm, maybe I need continuous differentiable.
Yeah, I need $Dg$ to be continuous.
 
Thank you very much, @ted
@Daminark Thank you
 
No problem!
 
Sure thing, @Silent.
 
Hi chat
 
6:24 PM
Yo
 
Hello chat
If I have an open set and exclude finitely many points, is it then still open?
 
huh, check out that "another representation"
which in turn points to the connection with Lissajous figures
 
@philmcole in what context? Metric spaces? $\mathbb{R}^n$? General topological spaces?
 
so that's sorta neat
 
@Daminark Yeah metric spaces. I know that finite sets are closed. Does that help me?
 
6:34 PM
How's the complement of that finite set?
 
open
 
If $A$ is your open set, can you write $A\setminus \{x_1,\dotsc,x_n}$ in terms of $A$ and the complement of the $x_i$?
 
Ah yes I can write it as $A \cap \{x_i\}^C$
And both are open so the intersection is open and hence the relative complement is open.
Thanks
 
(Note that the same works for $A\setminus C$ with $A$ open and $C$ closed, regardless of how many points $C$ has)
 
right
thanks
 
6:42 PM
(The path I wanted to lead you down was the same proof written differently: whatever the distance is from x in U to some n points, there is a minimum distance, say $d$. If you pick $\epsilon$ small enough so that $\epsilon < d$ and $B(x, \epsilon) \subset U$, then...)
 
I was trying to avoid using the metric since it works in general (I mean it doesn't for finite sets of points but for closed sets)
 
Instead of saying $A \text{ true}$ all the time is there a simple notation on the proposition $A$?
 
$T\vDash A$ if $A$ is true in the theory $T$, $\mathfrak A\vDash A$ if $A$ is true in the structure $\mathfrak A$ but I don't know if that's what you're looking for
 
more like $\underline{A}$
Should I learn Coq, Isabelle, Haskell, or something else if I had to choose one?
I already know D, Python, Assembler, some category theory
I'm going with Haskell for now
since there is a HoTT library for it and it's a full-fledge language where as Coq seems more like an embedded DSL
 
Probably depends on what your aim is
 
6:54 PM
My aim is to integrate visual diagrams into the workflow of the app
That you can also manipulate and have fed back into the "Coq editor"
Coq-like
Possibly full expressiveness with the diagrams or at least of accademic interest
Idk exactly my end goal
I just know I like playing with blocks and arrows -_-
My goal is a tool that makes a mathematician's or students life easier
It would be nice to use Haskell itself instead of me having to get into parsing
for the app's DSL
I hate parsing. It took a month or more to debug my EDID parser for HDMI (work stuff)
 
@TedShifrin in retrospect, I was misreading the question: I assumed that it was something like $x=a r\cos\alpha \theta,$ $y=br\sin\beta \theta$
which would make a lot more sense to me, frankly, since with the form given you can just absorb $\beta$ into $r$.
and then would lead to the Lissajous shenanigans I mentioned earlier
 
@EnjoysMath I'm a fan of Haskell, at least from an aesthetic standpoint.
 
7:10 PM
(though the lemniscate only shows up after the rotation, so...hmm. dunno)
 
7:44 PM
$$I (k)= \displaystyle\int_\infty^0\dfrac{k}{x^2 +k^2}\ln x ~dx$$
How to integrate this one?
 
I guess what I'd note is that, for $\ln x$, $x=1$ is always a special point
which suggests (to me) splitting the integration range into (infty,1] and [1,0)
and then considering how ln(x) behaves on both regions
 
i dont think its beneficial to split it
 
as an alternative (which contains some of the same ideas) one can make the u-sub x=e^x
 
doesnt help
 
okay then.
 
8:00 PM
not integrable
integrand given by integral calculator has something like $L_i$ and other imaginary numbers
not of high school level.
 
The result I get in Mathematica, assuming $k>0$, is $I(k)=\frac{\pi}{2}\log k$
 
oh
@Semiclassical yeah k>0
 
Which is an interesting answer...
 
ya
 
One approach would be to show that $k\frac{dI}{dk}=\frac{\pi}{2}$ and $I(1)=0$
Not sure how realistic an approach that is tho
 
8:03 PM
@Semiclassical are you sure there's no minus sign?
 
ah, yeah, there is
forgot that I swapped the integration limits
The fact that evidently $I(k)+I(1/k)=0$ is interesting as well
 
@Semiclassical I got this:
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A: Evaluating the integral $I (k)= \int_\infty^0\dfrac{1}{x^2 +k^2}\ln x ~ dx$

ComplexYetTrivialYou can let $x= k t$ to find $$ I(k) \equiv\int \limits_0^\infty \frac{-k \ln(x)}{k^2+x^2} \, \mathrm{d} x = \int \limits_0^\infty \frac{-\ln(t)}{1+t^2} \, \mathrm{d} t + \int \limits_0^\infty \frac{-\ln(k)}{1+t^2} \, \mathrm{d} t \, .$$ Your substitution $t \to \frac{1}{t}$ shows that the first ...

x=kt, wow
 
whistle
I mean, I had thought to do that substitution, but it hadn't seemed sufficiently productive
so I didn't bother writing it out
 
@Semiclassical how to think this way :(
I could have never thought x=kt
:(
 
well, note that the scale of the rational function k/(x^2+k^2) is set by x=k
that's the only point which seems at all special for that function
 
8:16 PM
@Semiclassical what do you mean by "scale of the rational function"
 
I'm being vague, yeah
I guess I mean that the only thing I can really compare x with in that function is k
e.g. if I had k=100, then I'd naturally be most interested in the case when x=100
anyways, once you have it in your head that x and k are more or less on the same footing in that denominator, that to me does suggest the substitution x=kt
since in that case one has k/(x^2+k^2) = 1/k*1/(t^2+1)
so the k-dependence has been factored out of that rational function
this comes at the cost of dx = k dt and log(x) = log(k)+log(t)
What I hadn't accounted for was being able to show that the log(t) term vanished
 
 
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9:30 PM
Hi,
Let $(u_n)_n \in \mathbb Q^{\mathbb N}$, with $\forall \alpha>0, |u_{n+1}-u_{n}|=o(\alpha^n)$.
Is it true that the limit of $(u_n)_n$ is a transcendental real ?
 
9:47 PM
$u_n=0$ or $u_n=1/n!$ fit the bill, both with limit $0$
 
10:02 PM
anyone know graph theory
 
10:12 PM
@anon thanks
 
10:39 PM
Let $\alpha \in\mathbb C, \exists R\in\mathbb Q[x], R(\alpha)=0$. Is it true that $\exists Q\in\{0,1\}[x],\exists P\in\mathbb Q[x], \exists a\in\mathbb C, Q(a)=0,\alpha=P(a)$ ?
 

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