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12:08 AM
Hello guys.
 
Hi @robjohn! If my toothache gets fixed by my dentist (it was supposed to already be on the mend :() I'm planning a quick trip to LA Thursday to Saturday.
hi DogAteMy and demonic @Alessandro.
Hi @Mockingbird.
 
How can I can execute line integrals of a vector field over an implicit function such as $sin(xy)=x+y$ ?
$$\sin(xy)$$
 
Interesting question.
What kind of vector field? A conservative one?
 
Let's assume for simplicity it's a constant one. @TedShifrin
 
Well, that's conservative. You need to specify an orientation ā€” which way are we moving on the curve?
 
12:16 AM
from $$\x=1$$ to $$\x=2$$
In any orientation you like.
 
I was going to say that the curve goes on forever.
Did you make up this question or were you assigned it?
 
I was taking a class on vector calculus then it came to my mind.
Should I ask this question on the main site?
 
So you can only do it approximately. There's no way to parametrize the path explicitly, so your only hope is to have a conservative vector field. You know the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus for Line Integrals?
 
@TedShifrin Let me know how that goes. I am helping with an exam at UCLA on Friday, so that might be a good afternoon.
 
I sure hope I don't have to cancel, @robjohn. What hours are you free/not free? I have dinner plans with the friend I'm visiting.
 
12:20 AM
No, But I will check this now. @TedShifrin
 
Is somebody here willing to give a more exhaustive answer to the following question:
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Q: What is the difference between a hilbert space and Euclidean space?

Programmer2134According to Wikipedia, Hilbert space [...] extends the methods of vector algebra and calculus from the two-dimensional Euclidean plane and three-dimensional space to spaces with any finite or infinite number of dimensions However, the article on Euclidean space states already refers to ...

 
@Mockingbird: OK ... Basically, then the answer will only depend on the potential function (the $f$ so that $\nabla f = \vec F$) and the endpoints of the path. But the endpoints you can only get approximately (e.g., Newton's method).
@nbro: There's nothing more to say. $\Bbb R^n$ or $\Bbb C^n$ is a finite-dimensional Hilbert space (when you equip them with inner products).
 
@TedShifrin The exam ends at noon. I usually have lunch with a friend on campus, but that can certainly be rescheduled.
 
Well, don't do anything precipitous, @robjohn :)
 
@TedShifrin How can we get endpoints in this function? You mean $x=1$ to $x=2$ or something like that?
 
12:24 AM
You need $(x,y)$ for both, @Mockingbird, and that equation can only be solved numerically ā€” if you specify an $x$, it should give us only a few different $y$'s ... but unlikely a unique one!!
Interesting that you raise this question, @Mockingbird. I spent about a week figuring out a solution of a similar, very hard question on MSE a few years ago.
 
@TedShifrin Can you give me the link of that question?
 
Let me try to find it.
@Mockingbird: Enjoy!!
 
@TedShifrin It may be raining on Friday, so precipitation may be unavoidable.
 
Well, that may not pose an insoluble problem.
But, having had an emergency root canal already, I'm hope my tooth problem isn't likewise insoluble.
 
@TedShifrin If you're not a a part of the solution, you're a part of the precipitate...
 
12:33 AM
Yes, precisely. We're surrounded by worthless precipitates ...
 
According to chemistry, the polar bear is the only type of bear that will dissolve
 
@TedShifrin hopefully, they all fall out in the end
 
Hope you're not talking about my teeth. :(
DogAteMy: I'll take a molal bear.
 
Teeth are part of the solution if you drink enough soda
or so I've heard
 
I don't drink that crap. :P
 
12:35 AM
@AkivaWeinberger a polar bear is simply a rectangular bear after a coordinate transform
 
PMM
If I have a torus and I want to calculate the "volume of its interior" is that the volume or the surface area? The torus is just a shell, of course. Because I have a question asking for this. Asks for the volume. As a hint says, compute this integral. I know for sure the integral is the surface area ???
 
Volume of its interior means volume of the 3D region, @PMM.
 
PMM
So it is a mistake then?
 
Why is it a mistake?
 
They probably mean a solid torus
Generally, "torus" just means the surface, but if you're not doing topology then people don't tend to care as much
 
12:37 AM
Unless you show me everything in the question, I have to trust that I know what "volume of its interior" means.
 
Same thing for "circle" (as opposed to "disk")
 
PMM
Because the hint says prove $\int_\mathbb{T} |\phi_u \wedge \phi_v| \;dudv = 2\pi a2\pi r$ which is the surface area
 
People talk about the area of a circle all the time
 
PMM
$phi$ is the parametrization of course
 
12:38 AM
Just show us the entire question.
I imagine they want you to think about how to use that parametrization to get a parametrization of the solid torus (i.e., the interior).
 
Regardless, you can calculate both the surface area and the volume of the torus pretty easily by a simple trick
(like, no integrals or anything like that)
 
I think we're practicing integrals and not looking for tricks like that.
 
PMM
posted the image in the link
 
@PMM $\phi$
 
Yeah, they want the volume of the interior. How can you modify the parametrization of the torus (the surface) to get a parametrization of the interior?
 
12:41 AM
$\PHI$
 
You want \Phi?
 
PMM
I have $\phi$
 
So how do you make $\Phi$ out of $\phi$? :)
 
I don't understand what it means by $\{(x,y,z)\ (u,v)\}$ there
 
12:42 AM
They've been given a parametrization of the torus earlier.
 
Why would you need five variables for a torus?
 
PMM
So the quickest method is to recreate a parametrization from $\mathbb{R}^2$ to the filled torus?
 
No, you're giving $x,y,z$ as functions of parameters $u,v$.
 
Ohh
Right that makes more sense
And $r$ and $a$ are radii I guess?
 
@PMM: Not $\Bbb R^2$, no. You parametrize the torus with $[0,2\pi]\times [0,2\pi]$. Now what do you need to fill it in?
 
12:44 AM
$\Phi$
 
DogAteMy, yes. I usually use $a$ and $b$ for those. :)
 
Ī¦Ļ†
 
I see Mockingbird and DogAteMy are speaking in tongues.
 
Do Carmo, by the way, uses $\phi$ to mean the empty set (and $\varphi$ as a variable)
It annoys me
 
@TedShifrin So, there is no hope for solving my implicit function integral problem without having conservative vector field?
 
12:45 AM
Right, @Mockingbird, not unless the vector field is everywhere normal to your curve.
But that would be very special.
I'm sure he didn't do the typesetting, DogAteMy.
 
At one point at Mathcamp, a professor looked at her notes, said "I used both phi and varphi? That's evil!" and then proceeded to use both $\phi$ and $\varphi$ on the blackboard
@TedShifrin Ah, true
 
Even I would never be that mean!
But I did occasionally use both $\xi$ and $\zeta$ (I called the former "squiggle").
 
In another class she used Lucky Charms shapes
 
PMM
@TedShifrin so integrating the surface area over $r$
 
Yup, that is right, @PMM. To be sure, you could write out the $3\times 3$ Jacobian of the mapping.
 
12:50 AM
@TedShifrin Should I post it on the main site to people
have their
 
@Mockingbird: I'm as much of an expert as you're going to find on such questions, but go ahead. :)
 
brain working on the problem?
 
PMM
@TedShifrin thanks :)
 
@Mockingbird: Make sure you make everything explicit and clear.
 
Hello
 
12:58 AM
Hi, Demonark.
 
Ted, do you know why Balarka was summoning me?
 
Nope.
 
Yoyo
 
There was one point at which your avatar descended, but you were nowhere to be heard.
Yo Eric.
 
I was not here during the entirety of Shabbos
so I don't know what was up with that
 
1:02 AM
I didn't stop to think about that, but of course ... but your computer or phone entered without you :P
 
Anything fun happening
 
No, I'm having a horrid toothache (even though I already had an emergency root canal on it).
I hate weekends when I have dental issues.
 
If my account starts sending messages without me there, that might be a problem
 
:( I have a high fever so I'm with you somewhat
 
Mockingbird asked an interesting question, Eric. He wanted to know how to do a line integral over an implicitly-defined curve.
Oh ugh. I'm so sorry.
DogAteMy: Your problem, to be sure, not mine :P
 
1:06 AM
My sister, mother, and father all tried marijuana last night
It was very weird
 
A family that reefs together ...
You omitted yourself?
 
Wow what a family experience
 
It was in some tomato sauce
It's still in the fridge, actually
 
As opposed to brownies. That's different :)
 
@Akiva were you their sherpa
 
1:09 AM
LOL
 
@TedShifrin I can't think of how one would do this, is there a nice formula
 
Hell no.
 
sounds right
 
Unless you happen to be on a portion of a level curve $f=c$ and you're integrating $df$. :P
 
"Implicitly defined" is the same as "level curve", isn't it?
 
1:15 AM
Yup.
 
Level curve of $\sin(xy)-x-y$ in this case
 
@TedShifrin hello
I was teaching vector calculus the other day and one prof attended my lecture
and he told me I teach it good. I told him I learned from the best being Prof.Ted
 
@Ted I'm reading some old Cartan and it's kind of astounding how much math has completely changed
 
@EricSilva oh really ?
I want at some point learn French to read EGA
I want to see different perspectives
 
the daddy Cartan
 
1:25 AM
bfrb
 
how can we prove the powers of 7 cycle in periods of 4?
Induction, maybe? I'm very stuck
If anyone could help that would be great
 
you mean the units digits?
 
Yeah
 
just compute the powers mod 10 and see what happens
 
hm
that would just give me the last digit anyway
 
1:38 AM
yeah exactly
you'd be done if $7^{5} \mod 10 = 7$, which spoiler, it does
 
but that doesn't prove it continues to work for $7^n$
 
write $n = 4m + k$ where $k = 0, 1, 2, 3$
 
where m,n=?
 
n is the power of 7 youre trying to find the units digit for
$m$ and $k$ are what you get from the division algorithm when you divide by $4$
 
oh ok thanks
 
1:46 AM
(y)
 
what did you divide by 4?
 
@EricSilva what about it in particular stands out?
 
@DarkRunner $n$
@Daminark a few things. for one the priors on what is taken as elementary is just totally different. Cartan clearly expects readers to be comfortable pulling of ridiculous linear algebra computations that modern students probably wouldn't be able to do. The other thing is just lack of modern language making like everything a little obtuse to a modern reader, im sure there's still a wealth of insight to be gleaned but my melted fever brain can't do it rn
 
I'm still not understanding where you got n=4m+k from, since rewriting the modulo would give you $(7^{ n })(mod\quad 10)=7,9,3,1\Rightarrow 7^{ n }-1=10k$, right?
I got it
 
the division algorithm dude, you can always write any integer $p$ as $p = qm + r$ where $0 \leq r \leq q - 1$ by doing long division
mmk
 
1:59 AM
Or u could just rewrite it in terms of smaller powers that you know the residue for
 
my point was $7^{n} = 7^{4m + k} = 7^{4m}7^{k}$. mod 10 $7^{4m}$ is 1 so then $7^{n} \equiv 7^{n \mod 4} \mod 10$.
 
wow very nice
 
2:14 AM
@EricSilva I see
 
@Daminark there's a particular thing which happens a lot where he says you have something which hasn't been defined anywhere but he can compute what it should be (but he doesn't, so i think he assumes the reader either knows or should figure it out) so i guess he doesn't need to come up with a formal construction or something
idk man it's weird and old timey
 
That's strange
 
2:39 AM
UGH!
brain no work now
too much math
also, I can see exactly why $$\int_{\delta}^{2\pi - \delta} |D_N(t)|\,\mathrm{d}t \ge C \log(N)$$ for some constant $C$ (where $D_N$ is the Dirichlet kernel), but the mother ****ing rigor refuses to behave!
 
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3:32 AM
Hello everyone, can you please please check this :
 
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Q: Find the cross-section when a pentachoron is cut along a hyperplane under the given conditions

user532368 Given a regular pentachoron ($ABCDE$), find the cross section when it is cut along a hyperplane which is equidistant from and parallel to line $AB$ and plane $CDE$. Here, a regular pentachoron means a $5-$ cell, i.e., a $4D$ figure with $5$ vertices A,B,C,D,E all at equal distances from o...

 
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I have tried it for ling but couldn't do it. Also, I had posted the question here, but didn't really get any positive comments.
 
user337082
* long
 
user337082
Can I please get a response just to know if anyone will have a look at the Problem? (Just a request from my end)
 
4:17 AM
@robjohn Thank you for looking at this!
 
4:37 AM
\o @Daminark
 
@skullpatrol I asked something in "the periodic table" , have a look when you're free
 
I saw that, sorry I can't help :(
 
@skullpatrol Its alright , do you want me to let you know about it once i get it done ?
 
sure, that would be interesting
 
okay cool :)
 
4:45 AM
:)
 
 
2 hours later…
6:31 AM
so Z-mod is the initial category in the category of category of modules?
 
7:41 AM
Always gonna be another theorem...
 
8:08 AM
@LeakyNun no
There are a lot of (additive) functors even from Z-mod to Z-mod
Take any Z-module A, then you have Hom(A,-) and $A \otimes_{\Bbb Z}$ which are two examples
 
Zee
8:24 AM
Is anybody out there ?
Helloooooo
 
Sounds like a pink floyd lyric
 
Zee
Haha it sure is
Raiders fan here , how strange
Raiders V.S Grothendieck , who wins ?
 
math always wins :P
 
Zee
If thatā€™s the case , 99% of the world would not be math ignorant
 
But ignorance is infinite...
 
Zee
8:33 AM
Are you an algebraist or an analyst ?
 
I'm a raider fan :P
 
Zee
I was a raider fan even though I never saw football
A person gave me a raiders hat and I walked around in it for years even though I never watched football
And people talked to me and assumed I was a fan
The Weird part is after a while I started believing the lie
And hence I became a raiders fan without watching a single game
 
Yeah, the team logo has a certain "mystic" about it.
I was the same way when I was very young.
 
Zee
May glory be your friend
 
Thank you, my friend :-)
 
 
1 hour later…
9:45 AM
Hey chat
Is a morphism of sheafs uniquely defined by the induced stalk morphisms?
I mean, yes, $f=g$ if and only if $f_x=g_x$ for all $x$.
But given morphisms $f_x$ on the stalks, can I say that they induce a morphism of sheafs $f$ such that the stalk morphisms induced by $f$ are exactly the $f_x$?
 
10:09 AM
Is there any ressource that talks about gluing manifolds with corners?
 
Yes, I have googled it too :p
 
10:27 AM
My humblest apologies google-fu master :P
 
hello
i need a reference for this
Let $(X,\mathcal{A},\mu)$ be a measure space. \\
$(a)$ If $(A_k)$ is an increasing sequence of sets that belong to $\mathcal{A},$ then $\mu(\bigcup_{k}A_k)=\lim_{k}\mu(A_k).$\\
$(b)$ If $(A_k)$ is a decreasing sequence of sets that belong to $\mathcal{A},$ and if $\mu(A_n)<+\infty$ holds for some $n,$ then $\mu(\cap_k A_k)=\lim_k \mu(A_k).$
 
10:39 AM
Those properties are usually called continuity from below and above, they should be proved in all real analysis book which cover some measure theory
 
@AlessandroCodenotti i found it thank you
please do you know the name of this theorem
If $f: X\rightarrow [0,+\infty[$ is a measurable function, there exists subsets $A_1,\ldots, A_n\subset X$ not necessarily disjoint and $(\alpha_n)\subset\mathbb{R}_+$ such that $$f=\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \alpha_n \chi_{A_n},$$
with $$\sum_{n=1}^k\alpha_n\chi_{A_n}(x)\leq f(x),~x\in \Omega ~\text{and}~ k\in \mathbb{N}.$$
 
Hi,
$$\textbf{1/ }\exists f \in F([-1,1],[-1,1]), \forall x\in [-1,1], f^3(x)+f^2(x)+f(x)+x=1 \text{ and } 3f^2(x)+2f(x)+x=0\text{ ?}$$

$$\textbf{2/ }\exists f \in C([-1,1],[-1,1]), \forall x\in [-1,1], f^3(x)+f^2(x)+f(x)+x=0 \text{ and } 3f^2(x)+2f(x)+x=0 \text{ ?}$$

$$\textbf{3/ } P_1,..,P_n \in \mathbb C[z], \text{ find a NCS on the }(P_i)_i \text{ for that system (S) have a solution in } F(\mathbb C,\mathbb C),$$ $$\text{(S) : }\forall i=1..n, \forall z \in \mathbb C, P_i(f)(z)=0$$


[b]Notation :[/b]
@GG T'as vu cela sale temps pour les génies !
 
hello @AkivaWeinberger
 
@Vrouvrou no, sorry
 
11:32 AM
Hi @Alessandro
 
Hi all, I have a differential equation with a Bessel function as a solution (obtained from WolframAlpha)
Rewriting it appropriately does not appear to me instantly, so any good methods or books I can look at to squeeze out the right answer?
 
> There are two very different types of ultrafilter: principal and free. A principal (or fixed, or trivial) ultrafilter is a filter containing a least element. Consequently, principal ultrafilters are of the form Fa = {x | a ā‰¤ x} for some (but not all) elements a of the given poset. In this case a is called the principal element of the ultrafilter. Any ultrafilter that is not principal is called a free (or non-principal) ultrafilter.
In other words, they look like onions with no core
 
I think it's difficult to say what non-principal ultrafilters look like since their existence depends on choice
(or at least some extension of ZF)
 
11:48 AM
Hi @Mathei
 
@MatheinBoulomenos Well that's true, so I guess the best we can only say is that it is a subset that has no least element and is upward closed
Recipe for making non measurable sets:
1. DC but no inaccessibles
2. Ugly functions (what does that mean in the minimalisitc sense?)
3. Existence of a free ultrafilter on the naturals
4. (I don't recognise this variety of AC)
 
To get a feeling for how weird non-prinicpal ultrafilters are: if you choose a non-principal ultrafiter $\mathcal F$ on the set of primes $\Bbb P$ , then the set $I \subset \prod_{p \in \Bbb P} \overline{\Bbb F_p}$ given by $(x_p)_{p \in \Bbb P} \in I \Leftrightarrow \{p \in \Bbb P \mid x_p = 0\} \in \mathcal F\}$ is a maximal ideal (okay that part is not so weird) and $(\prod_{p \in \Bbb P} \overline{\Bbb F_p})/I$ is isomorphic to $\Bbb C$
okay, you need a second application of choice for the isomorphism to $\Bbb C$, but you can at least say that it's an algebraically closed field of characteristic $0$ with the cardinality of the continuum
here $\overline{\Bbb F_p}$ is the algebraic closure of $\Bbb F_p$
 
so the field that is produced is algebraically closed like $\Bbb{C}$ but is not really $\Bbb{C}$ itself?
 
well it's algebraically closed of the same cardinaliy and characteristic
so assuming choice, it's isomorphic to $\Bbb C$
 
12:07 PM
hmm...
$\prod_{p \in \Bbb P} \overline{\Bbb F_p}$ is countable, $I$ is also countable, $\mathcal{F}$ is countable(?), and $(\prod_{p \in \Bbb P} \overline{\Bbb F_p})/I$ is of size continuum...
when is the last time I saw two countable things quotiented together give an uncountable thing...?
o wait my mistake, $\prod_{p \in \Bbb P} \overline{\Bbb F_p}$ is uncountable since $\overline{\Bbb F_p}$ is countable each
so cardinality wise, is ok
 
Hi !
I have a matrix A with parameter a in some columns.
Now I have done an LU decomposition of A.

My task is now to define a so that A is invertible.
How can is use the LU decomposition for that?
 
hmm... so I guess the weird thing is to be able to produce something of characteristic zero from a set of things of finite characteristics...
 
hello @MatheinBoulomenos
 
but I might be talking mostly nonsense here cause I have not read about algebraic closures of finite fields yet
 
someone know this theorem
If $f: X\rightarrow [0,+\infty[$ is a measurable function, there exists subsets $A_1,\ldots, A_n\subset X$ not necessarily disjoint and $(\alpha_n)\subset\mathbb{R}_+$ such that $$f=\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \alpha_n \chi_{A_n},$$
with $$\sum_{n=1}^k\alpha_n\chi_{A_n}(x)\leq f(x),~x\in \Omega ~\text{and}~ k\in \mathbb{N}.$$
 
12:19 PM
hello @Vrouvrou
 
hello
 
that's a consequence of the fact that every non-negative measurable function is a monotone limit of simple functions
I learned that in my analysis lecture, but I don't have a reference right now
it's probably in most analysis books that do some measure theory
 
@AkivaWeinberger Right so I pinged you because of this: Remember that I defined $\mathcal{L}_X Y$ as $\partial_t (\varphi_{-t})_* Y_{\varphi_t(p)}|_{t = 0}$ where $\varphi_t(x) : \Bbb R \times M \to M$ is the flow of $X$ defined by solution to the ODE $\partial_t \varphi_t(x) = X_{\varphi_t(x)}$ for all time $t$ and $x$ (assume $M$ is compact for now so the flow is everywhere defined), and $(\varphi_{-t})_* : T_{\varphi_t(p)} M \to T_p M$ is the derivative
You should think of this as, let $p \in M$ and $\gamma$ be the integral curve of $X$ starting at $p$, then take $X_{\gamma(t)}$, "slide it back along the path" to $X_{\gamma(0)}$, taking the difference quotient and let $t \to 0$ - like we discussed earlier.
I meant $Y_{\gamma(t)}$ and $Y_{\gamma(0)}$ there.
@AkivaWeinberger There's actually a similar interpretation to $\nabla_X Y$, where instead of sliding $Y_{\gamma(t)}$ to $T_{\gamma(0)}M$ along $\gamma$ using the flow $(\varphi_{-t})_*$, you parallel transport it to $T_{\gamma(0)}M$. Let me explain what that is.
 
@MatheinBoulomenos but you see we have the sum to infinity
 
oh right, then I'm not familiar with this theorem
 
12:35 PM
@AkivaWeinberger do you know this theorem on measure theory ?
 
@AkivaWeinberger So let's assume that you already have a connection $\nabla_{(-)}(-)$ eating two vector fields on $M$ and spitting another vector field, linear on bottom component ($\nabla_{fX} Y = f \nabla_X Y$) and Leibniz on front component ($\nabla_X (fY) = f \nabla_X Y + D_X(f) Y$).
If $\gamma$ is a path in $M$, a vector field $X$ along $\gamma$ is said to be parallel if $\nabla_{\gamma'} X = 0$. You should think of this as, if an ant walks along $\gamma$ then under the force of $X$ it would NOT feel ANY acceleration on $M$.
Ted's notes has a picture of a parallel vector field along a meridian of $S^2$ (under a natural connection). It twists as it moves along the meridian. Notice that $\gamma$ is a geodesic iff $\gamma'$ is a parallel vector field.
Parallelism gives a natural way to identify two tangent spaces $T_p M$ and $T_q M$ where $\gamma$ is a path on $M$ with $\gamma(0) = p$ and $\gamma(1) = q$. Namely, pick a basis $(e_1, \cdots, e_n)$ of $T_p M$, construct parallel vector fields $X_i$ along $\gamma$ starting at $e_i$ at $p$, and define the map $\mathscr{T} : T_p M \to T_q M$ by $\mathscr{T}(e_i) = X_i(q)$. (I think that's it)
The upshot of all the formalism is that you can recover $\nabla$ from the notion of parallel transport: $\nabla_X Y$ is $\partial_t \mathscr{T}_{-t} Y_{\varphi_t(p)}|_{t =0}$ where $\mathscr{T}_{-t}$ is the parallel transport map $T_{\varphi_t(p)} \to T_{\varphi_0(p)}$ along the integral curve of $X$ starting at $p$.
I think this is an exercise in do Carmo. It's not hard to prove in any case.
 
1:12 PM
Is there anyone here that is familiar with projective space as a scheme?
 
@lush Hi, auch hier?
 
@MatheinBoulomenos lukas?
 
Hab gerade die Reputation zusammenbekommen um hier schreiben zu dürfen.. dachte ich probiere das direkt mal aus ^^
 
Is everyone in Heidelberg an algebraist?
 
1:16 PM
HAHAHA
 
@AlessandroCodenotti yes, of course
 
there certainly are a lot of algebraists
 
Zwei Algebraiker sind schon zu viele :P
 
goes to google translate; wonders for a second how to translate German to topology
 
What's your profile pic from @lush? I think I've seen it before somewhere
 
1:26 PM
its an anarchist symbol :D
 
2:14 PM
This is accurate
 
@Vrouvrou bass.math.uconn.edu/3rd.pdf Section 5.2
Proposition 5.14
I guess you want the $A_n$ to be measurable as well? Otherwise you can do all functions, I think
 
2:43 PM
Hi chat. Anyone know why elliplse is called empty set?
 
3:00 PM
šŸ™ˆ
 
3:29 PM
Hello guys.
 
ugh... I just used invoked category theory... ON PURPOSE!
I feel dirty
 
@TedShifrin math.stackexchange.com/questions/2665989/… Hey, can you see where I can edit my question? I believe this has a prospect of a good question
@XanderHenderson Would you help with my querry? math.stackexchange.com/questions/2665989/…
 
3:46 PM
@TedShifrin If you are wondering why @Mockingbird and @Mockingbird360 are asking the same question. it's because I have 2 accounts on this site.
 
3:56 PM
@MatheinBoulomenos hey mathein :D pls text me when you see this =p
 
4:09 PM
@XanderHenderson sounds like a good idea :-)
 
@BalarkaSen I don't need to make intelligent arguments justifying my opinions because I don't have any checkmate everybody else
 
@EricSilva That's, like, just your opinion, man!
 
@Fawad You mean āˆ…?
The shape of the symbol?
 
How do I find the period of the last 2 digits of the powers of an integer?
i.e., the period of the last 2 digits of powers of 5 is 1, because it's always "25"
Is there a theorem I should know?
 
@DarkRunner euler totient
 
4:20 PM
ok
 
@EricSilva hell yeah
 
centrism so radical it recalibrates based on the room im in
 
my takes are so cold they're absolute 0
 
iā€™m sick
 
4:28 PM
(Northern Hemisphere peeps)
 
@MikeMiller oof
get well
 
i should gargle salt water but I never do that cuz it sucks
 
oh do you have that awful soaring throat again
 
When I say "Northern Hemisphere" I mean "places far north enough not to have lows of 20C what the fuck"
 
@KasmirKhaan what's up?
 
4:44 PM
@LeakyNun so I get it's used to find the # of coprime integers $\le $ x, but how can I relate that to periods of powers?
 
I should read Hirsch chapter 2
 
@DarkRunner that's the totient function not the totient theorem; read the theorem
 
@BalarkaSen what does that have?
 
@Daminark It formulates a lot of differential topology as point-set topology on function spaces, more or less
 
4:51 PM
Sounds like nerd shit
 
To give a not-so-excited but formal example consider the fact that if $X, Y$ are compact manifolds and $Z \subset Y$ is a submanifold then (1) given a map $f : X \to Y$ transverse to $Z$ any homotopy $f_t : X \to Y$ starting at $f_0 = f$ stays transverse to $Z$ for all $t < \epsilon$ for some $\epsilon > 0$ (2) given a map $f : X \to Y$ there is an arbitrarily small homotopy $f_t : X \to Y$ such that $f_1$ is transverse to $Z$
Let $C^\infty(X, Y)$ be the space of smooth maps from $X$ to $Y$ and $C_{\pitchfork}^\infty(X, Y) \subset C^\infty(X, Y)$ be the subset of maps transverse to $Z \subset Y$ (I'm not going to describe the topology)
(1) says $C_{\pitchfork}^\infty(X, Y)$ is an open subset (2) says $C_{\pitchfork}^\infty(X, Y)$ is a dense susbet
 
I see
Actually wait what do you mean by "small" homotopy exactly?
 
If your manifolds are like GP, embedded in $\Bbb R^n$, you have a norm
So small in that norm if you want
 
Gotcha
 
You can also define it purely formally, by describing the topology on $C^\infty(X, Y)$. (This is done in the first page of chapter 2 Hirsch if you want a reference)
You want an elaborate version of compact-open topology, more or less.
 
4:58 PM
So $\|f_1 - f_0\| < \epsilon$
 
Right
 
What is the usual way to denote $O(2,\mathbb{R})$ using set notation? Do you just say, determinant must have absolute value of 1 or is there an easier way?
 

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