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12:00 AM
@anon Oh, well. What happened to ze car?
 
speed sensor is whack
engine light is on
some more stuff
 
@anon Hmm... and did you get any ticket for speeding? =/
 
nah
 
@anon Oh, OK.
 
@PeterTamaroff Map $(k,h)\mapsto kh$. Then $(k,h)(k',h')=(k{}^hk',hh')\mapsto khk'h'$.
 
12:03 AM
@KarlKronenfeld Oh. So what is going on?
 
@PeterTamaroff You can use the operations of HK as if they were operations of the semidirect product.
You observed exactly that.
 
@KarlKronenfeld Oh, OK. =)
 
$$
\begin{align}
\int_0^1\sqrt{k^2+\beta^2}\,\mathrm{d}k
&=\beta^2\int_0^{1/\beta}\sqrt{k^2+1}\,\mathrm{d}k\\
&=\beta^2\int_0^{\pi/2-\arctan(\beta)}\sec^3(\theta)\,\mathrm{d}\theta\\
&=\beta^2\int_0^{\pi/2-\arctan(\beta)}\frac1{(1-\sin^2(\theta))^2}\,\mathrm{d}\sin(\theta)\\
&=\beta^2\int_0^{1\big/\sqrt{1+\beta^2}}\frac1{(1-u^2)^2}\,\mathrm{d}u\\
&=\beta^2\int_0^{1\big/\sqrt{1+\beta^2}}\frac14\left(\frac1{(1-u)^2}+\frac1{1-u}+\frac1{(1+u)^2}+\frac1{1+u}\right)\,\mathrm{d}u\\
&=\frac{\beta^2}{4}\left[\frac{2u}{1-u^2}+\log\left(\frac{1+u}{1-u}\right)\right]_0^{1\big/\sqrt{1+\beta^2}}\\
 
@robjohn Dude.
 
12:05 AM
@PeterTamaroff That was in reply to an earlier question. I got interrupted by a refrigerator repair.
 
Use that $\sinh^{-1} x=\log(x+\sqrt{1+x^2})$ has as a derivative $(1+x^2)^{-1/2}$.
 
We need to get a new one tonight.
 
Note the last thingy is $\sinh^{-1}(x^{-1})$
Hmm.
 
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@PeterTamaroff You actually look like Rudin when he was young, lol.
 
@Jasper ORLY? Pics or GTFO.
 
12:12 AM
@PeterTamaroff You may not prefer this, but I will show you an approach that appeals to me. First $H\subseteq HK$ represents a homomorphism of groups. Extend the chain of homomorphisms by the canonical $HK\to HK/K$. Then we recall $hK=K$ iff $h\in K$, so the kernel of $H\to HK/K$ is $H\cap K$.
 
@KevinDriscoll Not youur fault
Hey @PeterTamaroff how was uni today?
 
@robjohn That is clever because it isolates $\beta$ from k, allowing you to take an unambiguous limit. I wonder if that kind of idea can be applied more generally
 
@PeterTamaroff
@Jasper
 
12:33 AM
@KarlKronenfeld You looked it the other way? So first $h\mapsto h\in HK$ an inclusion? Then $HK\mapsto HK/K$ with the canonical projection to the class $hk\mapsto \widehat{hk}$.
@KarlKronenfeld I liked user1 better.
In my head the other approach seems more natural. Probably 'cause that is what I thought of first.
@KarlKronenfeld What is the first map?
 
12:49 AM
@PeterTamaroff You mean $H\to HK$? It is $h\mapsto h$.
 
Hi @Peter et al
 
@KarlKronenfeld Right.
@TedShifrin Bummer. I am off to eat now.
But I am a fast eater.
 
Bon appétit :)
 
1:06 AM
Ah, got to do the rare bit of mathematics for my job today. Caught emails in another group saying something was impossible, and came up with a method that used probability to get the desired result.
Probably can't convince them to use it, sadly - they won't get the math, and they don't know me from Adam.
 
@TedShifrin Oh, well.
Not much talking went on.
 
@ThomasAndrews What is your job may I ask?
 
@ThomasAndrews Adam?
@AlexanderGruber Dude.
 
@PeterTamaroff dude
 
@AlexanderGruber How is it going?
 
1:10 AM
@PeterTamaroff just took a wicked nap in my office
 
Wow... Some days I have trouble breaking 100, today I capped early and lost 160 after.
 
@AlexanderGruber Ah, that must be rewarding.
 
Not sure if you're kidding, @PeterTamaroff, but Don't know me from Adam is common English phrase.
 
@PeterTamaroff i'm not gonna lie, it's pretty nice
 
@ThomasAndrews Nope, I am not a native English speaker, Thomas.
 
1:11 AM
but they don't allow smoking on campus
so it can really only be so satisfying
 
Yeah, that was my guess, but wasn't sure. Consider that a compliment on your English here :)
I'm a software engineer, working in an area that doesn't have a lot of math.
 
@ThomasAndrews What pl?
 
programming language
 
Java at this job, I've worked in quite a few different ones over the years.
 
1:14 AM
My abbreviations are terrible I just chopped the A off Apl
 
Yeah, I've programmed APL, but only in college :)
 
@AlexanderGruber Heh.
 
@ThomasAndrews Do you know project euler?
 
@PeterTamaroff how have you been
 
@AlexanderGruber Can't complain. I am making nice progress in Linear Algebra, and being able to chew Spivak's "Calculus on Manifolds." My latest win was this.
 
1:18 AM
$$L(2,\chi_4)=G=\frac{11\pi^2}{120}+6\sum_{m=1}^\infty\frac{e^{2\pi m}}{m^2(e^{2\pi m}-1)^2}$$
$$\frac{1}{\pi}=\frac{1}{3}-8\sum_{n=1}^\infty e^{-2\pi n^2}n\coth(\pi n)-2\sum_{n=1}^\infty e^{-2\pi n^2} \text{csch}(\pi n)^2$$
 
I've not done the problems, but I know of Project Euler. @Alizter . I've solved the ones I see as having immediate answers :)
 
@PeterTamaroff nice. i'm taking an analysis course now. maybe finally after this i will be able to do cool stuff like that.
did you see i won my struggle with the White Whale?
 
@AlexanderGruber Ah?
@AlexanderGruber Analysis? What kind of analysis?
 
Just wonder what is the standard introductory textbook on Dynamical System Theory and Theory of Bifurcations?
that isn't Strogatz.
 
@PeterTamaroff real
the most analysisy of analysis
 
1:22 AM
@AlexanderGruber YEAH! CONGRATS, BRO!
 
If you can find the formula $\frac{n(n+1)}n$ for triangle numbers. Why can't you do the same for factorial? I'm limiting to integers.
 
'formula' alone is pretty vague, though it should be obvious it can't be represented by a polynomial, it grows far to fast to be expressible as one
 
Hope you don't have indigestion, @Peter :)
See Stirling's formula for $n!$.
Of course, I missed the question ....
 
@TedShifrin Why would I have indigestion? =P
 
1:30 AM
Doing math whilst gobbling. :)
 
@Islands Strogatz is THE text sorry I can't recommned another :-(
 
gibberish
 
@TedShifrin Ah, I don't do that, except if I am drinking coffee with some tasty side.
 
@KevinDriscoll I started using this http://www.amazon.ca/Elements-Applied-Bifurcation-Theory-Kuznetsov/dp/0387944184/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1377653565&sr=8-1&keywords=elements+of+applied+bifurcation+theory

Strogatz just seems too low level.
 
@Islands the problem with dynamical systems, chaos, and bifurcation theory is that it gets very complicated very quickly
 
1:34 AM
The Dynamical Systems section is good also. First time I've seen a mathematical definition.
@KevinDriscoll no kidding. I'm doing something with a very complicated dynamical system and can't even find the fixed points. Nothing I've learned so far has really helped me.
 
Look at Hirsch/Smale for dynamical systems.
 
@Islands I feel your pain. I had to do something similar once, though I was attempting to find a chaotic attractor. Does your system have a large number of parameters in it or is it a large number of coupled equations or just some scary functions?
 
It's 8 dimensional, but using constraints we can bring it down to 6.
there is a lot of parameters, some bilinear terms
it's a set of non-linear coupled ODEs
 
I see, well that COULD be worse
 
@Peter ... You disappeared while I was reading.
 
1:38 AM
@TedShifrin Sorry, I had to change something.
My bad.
 
I think it's obvious in the finite case, wrong in the infinite, as Deven points out.
 
@TedShifrin Yes.
 
So, I am not experienced at this so I can't say it will work for you but what helped me with my project some time ago was to simply arbitrarily set some of the parameters to 0. Doing that let me get a better handle on what the other parameters were doing and then I was able to cook up some ideas about what effect they had on each other. @Islands
 
Shows the difference between measure 0 and volume 0 (in the Riemann/Jordan sense).
 
I was thinking of taking away some terms so that the 6 ODEs turn into 2 sets of 3 ODEs
 
1:41 AM
@TedShifrin Aye.
 
@TedShifrin Are you the Ted Shifrin from UGA that I just found on google?
 
I already think my assumption that they interact is weak at this point, so I could probably do it analytically if I did that
 
@Islands that sounds reasonable. Simplify until you understand what is going then try and build everything back up
 
@Kevin: Fraid so, but I come clean on my SE profile page :)
 
@TedShifrin I work at Georgia Tech, so I suppose I have to give you the obligatory "To hell with Georgia"
 
1:46 AM
LOL ... Well, I'm an MIT alum and had a postdoc there, so I look down my nose at Tech. :)
 
@TedShifrin I find that totally acceptable. I'm a Duke alum and so I do too to some extent
 
Math at Duke?
 
Physics
Although its in the same building
 
Ah ... Cool. I have good friends who are or were at Duke math. Dave Morrison did physics too ...
But he wen to UCSB a while ago. Robert Bryant is totally brilliant in geometry and geometric analysis.
 
Would it be a good idea to have hints and patterns to project euler questions under the project euler tag in a formatted way so that every question is addressed. Then people who are looking for help on the questions don't have to ask them as they already exist?
 
1:50 AM
@TedShifrin It seems professor Morrison left for UCSB the year I got to Duke, judging by his CV
 
@Peter: You done with me for tonight? :)
 
@TedShifrin I am answering a question, actually =)
 
Bryant was the head of MSRI for 5 years, but is now back at Duke.
So, good, @Peter, I'm dismissed. I'm sick ... Better get to bed.
Nice to meet you, neighbor, @Kevin.
 
@TedShifrin Oh, get better.
 
You as well, @TedShifrin hope you feel better
 
1:53 AM
Thanks :(
 
2:19 AM
Anybody here been to the Museum of Mathematics in NYC?
 
2:59 AM
can anybody tell what git gud is saying here?
 
@anon Wrong link.
Oh, I enoyed that too much.
=D
 
(:
my click was a mere few pixels off
 
@anon Dude. If $F$ is a vector field then $\operatorname{div} F=0$ means $D_1F+D_2F+D_3F=0$?
 
yes
 
Mh, OK.
@anon Um, don't know what GitGud means either.
 
3:34 AM
@anon Do you know about the Hodge star?
 
generalization of cross product. I have forgotten about it.
 
@anon Ah, OK.
Man, this tatooer had some balls doing the dragon curve.
 
3:58 AM
@PeterTamaroff I hope no one tries to fold his arm toc heck that they did it correctly
 
4:38 AM
What does it mean for a function to have a Fourier Transform of 0? Is this even possible or are there infinitely many such functions?
(I feel like there can't be infinitely many because the Fourier Transform is a linear map)
 
@KevinDriscoll: there can be only one such function because the fourier transform is injective
(assuming you identify functions that are equal except on sets of measure zero)
 
@Anthony that is what I thought. So if Mathematica is telling me that the Fourier Transform of a function is 0, there must be some distributions stuff going on
@AnthonyCarapetis ie maybe the Fourier transform is actually a delta function of some kind
 
possibly... is mathematica computing it numerically?
and is the original function zero? :p
 
No it is computing it analytically and the original function is $ s \sinh(\frac{\pi s}{2})$ which obviously is unbounded exponentially for very large/small values
so exactly how the Fourier Transform is defined in this case I am not sure. I don't actually know rigorous math, I just pretend to. Like I have some vague notion of what a 'set of measure zero' is.
You have to restrict your set of test functions I imagine to one that decay quickly enough
 
4:53 AM
@KevinDriscoll: ah right, the fourier transform loses a lot of its nice properties when you don't restrict the domain to something nice like L^p
 
@AnthonyCarapetis Indeed. Sadly, MOST of the functions that I work with are not part of $L^1(-\infty,\infty)$
@AnthonyCarapetis My experiments suggest that this Fourier Transform should be $\delta(\theta+ i\frac{\pi}{2})$ if such a thing is well defined
 
5:11 AM
@KevinDriscoll: Maybe this theory en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourier_transform#Tempered_distributions can define the fourier transform for your function? I think it may grow too quickly to be a tempered distribution though..
 
@AnthonyCarapetis From reading Math overflow I can se that it is NOT a tempered distribution
apparently its a 'analytic function'
Where for some reason it feels like they are using analytic in a sense different than what I am used to
 
@AnthonyCarapetis In the comments to the OP
@AnthonyCarapetis Thank you for your thoughts. It is time for bed here. Take care.
 
5:33 AM
:)
 
6:32 AM
yo
 
7:15 AM
@N3buchadnezzar ho ho
 
and a bottle of rum?
 
$$3.14159265...=\frac{1}{\frac{1}{3}-8e^{-2\pi}\coth(\pi)-2e^{-2\pi}\text{csch}(\pi n)^2}$$

$$\frac{1}{\pi}=\frac{1}{3}-8\sum_{n=1}^\infty e^{-2\pi n^2}n\coth(\pi n)-2\sum_{n=1}^\infty e^{-2\pi n^2} \text{csch}(\pi n)^2$$
 
(removed)
:D
 
how old are you skullpatrol
 
7:54 AM
has anyone ever seen the notation $\omega \rfloor X$ for a 2-form $\omega$ and 1-form $X$? It's supposedly a 1-form
my best guess is $\iota_{X^\sharp} \omega$
 
8:51 AM
what is the percentage increase from 0 to 1? i cant seem to find an answer to this and im not sure if its on topic
 
 
2 hours later…
11:12 AM
@Ethan What are the things you keep posting?
 
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11:33 AM
@Alizter The results he came up with. He is Ramanujan incarnate.
 
@Jasper What do you want to be reincarnated as?
 
user87637
@skullpatrol I just hope to be born in a good country and a good family, whatever that means. Then again, I might not be reborn as a human, but as an animal or a god or something else.
 
@Jasper I read god as goat
 
goats are delicious
 
@AnthonyCarapetis I take it they taste like lamb?
 
11:44 AM
@Alizter quite similar yes
 
12:00 PM
Given that $x$ is a positive integer, find (with proof) all solutions of $$\large\left\lfloor\sqrt[3]1\right\rfloor+\left\lfloor\sqrt[3]2\right\rfloor+..‌​.+\left\lfloor\sqrt[3]{x^3-1}\right\rfloor=400$$
 
LHS is something like $x^4 - \sum_{j=1}^x j^3$
that sum is equal to some quartic, solve that quartic for x and check which ones are positive integers
this gives the existence of a solution with proof to the problem, I'm done now right?
 
12:26 PM
@AnthonyCarapetis I just like posting BMO problems and seeing if people can solve them. This is beyond me right now. If you want to solve it be my guest, I am happy to check your proof :)
 
@Alizter: as usual you just have to notice the trick: $\lfloor\sqrt[3]{n}\rfloor$ is just the largest integer $m$ such that $m^3 \le n$
a little bit of work gives you $\sum_j^x (x^3 - j^3)$
 
 
2 hours later…
2:40 PM
Somebody throw me an integral.
 
3:00 PM
show me maybe i can help you
@Alizter
 
3:36 PM
@what'sup what'sup?
 
4:35 PM
@what'sup okay try this one: $$\sum_{0\le n\le N}\int^n_{-n}\binom Nnx^{1/n}\,\Gamma(e^{-nx})\,dx$$. Where $x\in\Bbb R$ and $N\in\Bbb N$. The expression is allowed to be complex.
 
5:04 PM
@Alizter Okay, find the Fourier Transform of $$\frac{s \sinh{\frac{\pi s}{2}}}{s \sinh{\frac{\pi s}{2}}-1} (\text{sech}(\pi \frac{s-s_0}{2}) + \text{sech}(\pi \frac{s+s_0}{2}))$$ With 0<s0<1
So far I have been unable to find an analytical form for this Fourier transform
 
My mathematica trial expired and I have been searching the dodgiest places of the internet to find a keygen
 
@Alizter haha nice. Mathematica will not find this Fourier Transform for me
 
I just need it anyways
 
Ya I figured. Just a comment.
 
Ehh I hate dodgy websites
 
5:09 PM
Ya you always have to be quite careful. Good way to get malware
 
My security is fine I can deal with malware
i just need to find a keygen D:
 
Good luck! I don't know where I'd look for something like that for Mathematica
 
5:40 PM
@amWhy Hi.
 
Hello, @Jayesh
How are you? and classes?
 
5:57 PM
I am good.
Classes are going well too.
 
6:18 PM
hi guys
 
6:33 PM
hello !! @amWhy
 
6:43 PM
This room looks so different before I run ChatJax :-)
@KevinDriscoll Do you know that one exists?
 
7:18 PM
hi, i am souvik,i have problem in real analysis.i want your help
 
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7:31 PM
@SouvikNaskar You should just ask instead of ask to ask.
 
@SouvikNaskar Is this the same question you posted on main?
 
"slik at" means "such that"
I am pretty sure the right answer is $\exist \, c \in (a,b)$ such that $f(c) = g(c)$.
Since they must cross at some point. However is b) and c) also valid? I mean $g(x)$ could be linear.
 
Greetings
 
@Chris'ssis Hey
 
@N3buchadnezzar hi :-)
 
7:41 PM
@N3buchadnezzar b and c are the only correct answers.
consider $f(a)-g(a)\lt7$ and $f(b)-g(b)\gt9$
 
Since $f(x)-g(x)$ is continuous, it must attain $7$, $8$, and $9$ somewhere between $a$ and $b$.
that image does not necessarily represent the given conditions.
 
I figured. I swaped $f(b)$ and $g(b)$, hence my mistake.
 
@Robjohn I don't know if an analytical solution exists, no. But I strongly suspect that the Fourier Transform in the principal value sense exists since the functions decays exponentially and has only simple poles.
I didnt intend for it to be a serious challenge, I was just having a go at alizter
 
@KevinDriscoll The Fourier Transform exists, but whether it has an easily expressible is a completely different question.
 
7:52 PM
@Robjohn Absolutely. I think I can get the answer I am looking for by being a bit more clever and rearranging the equation I am trying to take the Fourier transform of
 
user87637
8:07 PM
Just answered a low hanging fruit...
 
No shame in that @Jasper
Those are the only questions I CAN answer here
 
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@KevinDriscoll I am shameless. I make it known that I only answer those. I actually answered over 400 questions here, got 20k, and then deleted my account. This is me starting from scratch, haha.
 
@Jasper Ah I knew that you had an old account but I didnt realize the whole situation
 
user87637
I am trying to estimate the time I would need to study some books to prepare for my GRE and grad school while not working.
 
user87637
It is quite impossible to give an estimate. I guess I will have to re-estimate after studying a few chapters.
 
8:23 PM
@Jasper Fuck it. Just start studying.
 
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@PeterTamaroff The pic of Rudin that was posted was an old Rudin, you should look for a young Rudin, really looks like you, LOL!
 
@Jasper Couldn't find one!
 
@PeterTamaroff Good day, sir. Hope your classes and everything went well
 
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@PeterTamaroff Let me try to find one now...
 
@KevinDriscoll I have been knighted? Good God.
 
@PeterTamaroff Scary isn't it, especially considering that little spat over the Falklands that your countries got into
 
@KevinDriscoll Heh, other folks wouldn't be so amused by your gag. =)
 
@PeterTamaroff I actually wasn't trying to make a joke; it is common to use 'sir' here as a respectful address
but I figured I'd roll with it
 
@KevinDriscoll Nah, I mean the Malvinas thingy.
 
@PeterTamaroff OH! I has no idea it could still be a touchy subject
 
8:33 PM
@KevinDriscoll Yeah, it is kind of a ongoing thing. And government in office has been picking the wound a lot, using it to get their way. Quite disgusting.
 
@PeterTamaroff Ah I had no idea. I thought it was like Pearl Harbor in the US. Like a tragedy from the past that most had moved on from
 
@KevinDriscoll It's complicated =P
Nevermind.
I am not so touchy about it.
 
Haha, yeah I gathered.
@PeterTamaroff Is your government more or the socialist side of things of the capitalist side of things right now?
 
@KevinDriscoll I don't know. They claim to be what the people want to hear. They are really a bunch of money addicted whores.
 
@PeterTamaroff That's depressing. I don't always agree with what my government does, but at least I have some faith that they think they are doing the right thing
 
8:44 PM
@KevinDriscoll I don't know if I'm depressed about it, but surely it makes me angry. They are a constant fuck-up of a government.
And I can't tell if they are just some lying bastards or they are really that delusional to believe what they are doing is right.
I hope for the former.
 
@PeterTamaroff But every government is like that. America is just really good at painting over
The british government has problems but from the outside they look good.
Unfortuantely turkey is the same on the out side
 
@Alizter I love watching the british government because they're much more animated than the US one, but I wouldn't enjoy living under their rule
 
I don't know. I think the nordic countries are quite neat
 
Yeah but thats because there are no people to worry about.
 
The Nordic countries have some interesting advanatges that most ocuntries don't. They are relatively free of factions because they are largely ethinically, racially, and religiously homogenous
They share a common culture and so they can do or not do many things in government that have broad agreement
 
8:47 PM
yay policitics
 
I think its great for them because their people get exactly what they want usually, but Im not sure that the model is useful in more idverse countries
@PeterTamaroff What are some of the biggest problems in Argentina? I'm totally ignorant
 
@robjohn I have something to show you. Are you around? :-)
 
In Britain, because of post conflict, there is absolutely no trace of Argentina's existence. The British are the best at sweeping things under the carpet.
 
@Chris'ssis yeah
 
@KevinDriscoll Well, the public system is a disaster.
Specifically, the railway system has long been not taken care of, and the airlines and other public entities have been taken over by the political flag of the officialism and young pricks who think they can run them.
There is also a motivated hatred towards other political flags.
And if not hatred, simply ignorance and minimization of them.
There is also an official story that has created escape goats, like the media, to tergiversate every story that pop ups against them. Thus, every political accusation from outside is regarded as a "maneuver from the demonic media" or whatnot.
 
8:59 PM
@robjohn sent them. Pls check it and let me know your opinion (maybe some improvements?).
 
@Chris'ssis sent them?
 
@robjohn yeah! (in a comment)
 
The officialism has also coopted the youngsters into their "cause" and the "model", demonizing previous presidents (which they have stood shoulder to shoulder before), using past disgraces, like the military coup or the economical crisis, mainly creating spirit of negative cohesion, and denouncing those who oppose their "progressism" are in fact in favour of those disgraces, or have had some participation in them.
@KevinDriscoll
 
@Chris'ssis got it
 
@robjohn ok. It's important to me to receive a feedback from your side! :-) (anytime you can)
 
9:06 PM
@Chris'ssis okay. It's going to be a while.
 
@PeterTamaroff Oh wow, okay I see some glimpse of why you have the opinion that you do. That isn't what I expected you to say because it sounds like the government is MAKING problems by being sort of authoritarian. Normally when I think of bad governments I imagine that there are all these unrelated problems and they just don't fix them
 
@robjohn OK :-)
 
9:28 PM
Nothing wrong with Argentina that a few cruise missiles couldn't fix.
That's how we solve things here in America. 'MURICA!
Every time there's a crisis somewhere in the world, Raytheon Corp. wets their pants with glee at the thought of all the refill orders for Tomahawks the Fedgov will be placing.
 
9:50 PM
@skullpatrol removed
?
 
@Bitrex Yep, I don't like politics.
 
owned
fixed :)
 
pwned?
 
pwned n00b
 
9:57 PM
:)
 
10:19 PM
hi guys
 
10:38 PM
@AlexanderGruber Grubbes.
 
The Fourier Transform is such a fickle mistress taking the Fourier Transform of $\text{Sech}(\pi \frac{s-s_0}{2})$ without using the Shift Theorem gives some horrible result in terms of Incomplete Beta Functions. If you use the shift theorem you get a simple Sech times a complex exponential. It is both amazing and maddening at the same time.
 
11:01 PM
@KevinDriscoll because the Fourier transform of sech(x) has to be evaluated from the power series expansion of sech(x) I think
 
@Bitrex I see. I would have guessed there's some more straightforward way of doing it
 
@KevinDriscoll $\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}\frac{2e^t}{e^{2t} + 1}e^{-2\pi ist}dt$
from the definition
eecchhh
 
11:26 PM
This question has a weird limit and I was wondering if anybody would like to explain it.
 
@Alizter Why do you think it is weird?
 
I mean $\forall x \to \epsilon$, where $0 < \epsilon << 1$. It looks like it aproches 1
So why would it suddenly change for 0 when it is $0^0$. I though limits took the closest values?
 
@Alizter It is indeed $=1$.
@Alizter Eh?
 
Look at the accepted answer
 
@Alizter Well, but $e^0=1$, right? ;)
 
11:30 PM
@alizter the limit of the log is 0, so the limit of the expression is 1
 
ahhh
I misread
So how would you go about evaluating $\lim_{x\to0^+}x^x$ with that evidence?
 
@Alizter Read the answers, the limit is evaluated there!
 
@PeterTamaroff I need to learn to read.
 
@Alizter: I do tell students that reading is a prereq for math :)
 
Indeed careful reading is a skill :)
 
11:43 PM
Hi @ skull and Peter
 
Hi
@TedShifrin How are you?
 
Feeling a bit better, thanks!
And you?
 
Fine thanks.
 
Any fascinating math on the table tonight?
 
Not yet.
@TedShifrin Have you seen my 400 point bounty question?
 
11:47 PM
Nope. You feeling generous?
 
I thought it was important, at the time...
@TedShifrin Here
 
I think you squandered points :) I am usually careful about it, but occasionally am sloppy.
 
@TedShifrin Yay, Ted.
 
There he is @ Peter;)
 
There should not be a space between @ and Peter if you want to ping him :)
 
11:54 PM
Today I showed that if $f:\Bbb R^k\to\Bbb R^n$ and $\omega$ is a $k$ form on $\Bbb R^n$, say $$\omega=\sum_{i_1<\cdots<i_k}\omega_{i_1\cdots i_k}dx_{i_1}\wedge\cdots\wedge dx_{i_k}$$ then $$f^\ast \omega=\sum_{i_1<\cdots<i_k}(\omega_{i_1\cdots i_k}\circ f)\;\frac{\partial(f_{i_1},\ldots,f_{i_k})}{\partial (x_{i_1},\ldots,x_{i_k})}dx_{i_1}\wedge\cdots\wedge dx_{i_k}$$
So this "partial" Jacobians give you like a "piece" of the volume?
 
Good. :) Does your prof do anything in the class? :)
 
@TedShifrin Ah?
 
Seems like you're doing everything yourself.
 
@TedShifrin But, this is not from a course I'm taking, Ted. I'm reading the Spivak "on my own".
Per se, since you help me a lot.
 
sorry
 
11:58 PM
Oh ... What is the Analysis II course, then?
That's called learning, skull.
 
@TedShifrin Well, so far we've seen curves, smooth, regular, simple, yadda yadda, then arclength, and today the prof has defined the integral of a scalar field over a curve.
But it is all in $\Bbb R^2,\Bbb R^3$.
 
Here is a $11^{\text{th}}$ BMO 1975 question:

Let $m$ be a fixed positive integer. You are given that$$\binom{2m}0+\binom{2m}1\cos\theta+\binom{2m}2\cos2\theta+\dots+\binom{2m}{2m}\cos2m\theta=\left(2\cos\frac12\theta\right)^{2m}\cos \,m\theta$$where there are $2m+1$ terms on the LHS; the value of each side of this identity is defined to be $f_m(\theta)$. The function $\mathrm g_m(\theta)$is defined by$$\mathrm g_m(\theta)=\binom{2m}0+\binom{2m}2\cos2\theta+\binom{2m}4\cos4\theta+\dots+\binom{2m}{2m}\cos2m\theta.$$Given that there is no rational $k$ for which $\alpha = k\pi$, find the valu
Feel free to answer.
 
@Alizter STAHP!
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