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12:00 AM
@PeterTamaroff qué estás haciendo, Pedro?
 
@Charlie Trying to solve that integral.
 
@PeterTamaroff hmm, interesting
 
I THINK I GOT IT!!!
@argon
 
@PeterTamaroff :D
 
@WillJagy lol $$\lim_{x\to 0}\frac{1}{2013!}\frac{d^{2013}}{dx^{2013}}(\sum_{n=1}^\infty x^{n^3})^3$$ fail
 
12:13 AM
Hey guys. Could I ask a practiced student of linear algebra a question?
 
@user1296727 of course :)
 
Well, okay, actually: can I drag you over to a question I asked a while ago?
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Q: correcting a mistake in Spivak

user1296727Spivak's Calculus on Manifolds asks the reader to prove this: If there is a basis $x_1, x_2, ..., x_n$ of $\mathbb{R}^n$ and numbers $\lambda_1, \lambda_2, ..., \lambda_n$ such that $T(x_i) = \lambda_i x_i$, $1 \leq i \leq n$, prove that $T$ is angle-preserving iff $\left| \lambda_i \right| =...

 
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Q: how was is the speed of light to 1000 years equal 1 day

user72586if the speed of light equal 186,ooo miles per second how fast will the speed of light be if 1000 years equal 1 day or a 24 hour period of time this question has stomp me for years plesae help me an can you shown how you got the answer

lool
 
@argon Yay! @Charlie
 
@user1296727 I didn't get it either
 
12:20 AM
@Charlie what's wrong?
Is there missing info?
 
@PeterTamaroff good
 
@anon Achievement Unlocked: solved a problem from the Pi Mu Epsilon journal.
 
@Charlie ?
 
@user1296727 try to ask @peter
@user1296727 it's weird....
 
@Charlie how so?
@PeterTamaroff I have been directed to seek your assistance.
 
12:27 AM
@user1296727 I really don't know, I'm sorry :(
 
@user1296727 Art thou requesting my aid?
 
@PeterTamaroff This is precisely what I intended by my preceding remark.
 
@user1296727 I found it funny that you wrote it like that.
What's troubling you, friend?
 
@PeterTamaroff I told him/her to do it
 
@Peter Yeah, I know, I did it on porpoise.
...anyway.
 
12:29 AM
@user1296727 So...?
 
@PeterTamaroff here
 
What I'm asking is basically: what are sufficient conditions on a basis for $\mathbb{R}^n$ in order that all "angle-preserving" linear maps are just flipping of some of the basis coordinates, and scaling them all up by the same number?
because this doesn't work with just any basis
 
@user1296727 OK.
 
I think that it works for basis vectors which are pairwise orthogonal
 
I can try and answer what you're asking in your question.
 
12:32 AM
Was it badly worded or something?
 
First, let me use some other notation.
Say your basis is $\mathscr B=(v_1,\dots,v_n)$
For any $x,y\in\Bbb R$ we can write
$x=\sum_{i=1}^n a_iv_i$, $y=\sum_{i=1}^n b_iv_i$ in a unique way.
Now $Tx=\sum a_iTv_i=\sum a_ic_iv_i$, $Ty=\sum b_iTv_i=\sum b_ic_iv_i$
Oh, well, you got an answer...
 
if I have y^3/y^-4 and y^-4 is 1/y^4. So I have y^3/1/y^4. Wouldnt you cross multiply with y^4 to cancel the bottom half out and end up with y^3 * y^4 on top? The example says thats wrong, that yuo end up with y^3 - y^4 on top..
 
@JohnMerlino $y^{3}/y^{-4}=y^7$, yes.
 
But the example shows the top as y^{3 - -4}. That gives the same answer, but in my example, the top was y^{3 + 4}.
So same answer but different way of getting there. Im trying to understand how they got there.
 
@JohnMerlino Well, for any $a$ you have that $$y^{-a}=\frac 1 {y^a}$$
They are letting $a=-4$.
So $$\frac{y^3}{y^{-4}}=y^{3-(-4)}=y^7$$
@AlexanderGruber
 
12:48 AM
@PeterTamaroff why are you disppointed?
 
Alright Im taking a break from algebra for today
 
@Charlie People like the question, it seems. Don't they like the answer to the question better?
@JohnMerlino Did you get it?
 
@PeterTamaroff no
@PeterTamaroff sometimes a question can be better than its answer
 
@PeterTamaroff exactly
Questions move the world
 
12:52 AM
@Charlie The world moves by itself.
 
As you wish
 
1:06 AM
ובלילה, בלילה
בשעות הקטנות
התפילות הפשוטות מבקשות
בלילה, בלילה
לחכות לתשובות
כדי למצוא עוד סיבה לקוות
 
1:28 AM
@Charlie Dafaq?
 
@PeterTamaroff a song...
 
@Charlie What does it say?
 
something like: And at night, night
In the wee hours
Simple prayers seeking
At night, the night
Wait for answers
To find another reason to hope
 
2:11 AM
Hey guys is anyone a discrete wiz here willing to check a proof?
 
@robjohn If you have a spare moment, could you ping me when you return? It's not urgent, but I am curious about something.
 
anyone...
 
@jtm22 Ask in the main.
 
What do you mean in the main?
@GustavoBandeira
 
2:22 AM
I tried..to no avail!
Just have a simple check tho haha
 
@jtm22 It'll have more visibility.
 
I have a few one-on-one questions =(
 
Injective?
 
@user1 That's what I would say. :P
 
Well, he's also talking about discrete math. You cannot avoid it. :)
 
2:33 AM
Lol
 
Can some one explain to me what $\langle 2+2i \rangle$ means in the context of rings?
 
@Eric Assuming 2+2i is an element of a commutative ring, it is the ideal generated by 2+2i.
 
it just means the ideal generated by 2+2i
 
yeah but what exactly does the set look like
 
That depends entirely what ring you're considering it in
 
2:35 AM
Again, if commutative, it is the set of all $R$-multiples of 2+2i, i.e. $r(2+2i)$ for all $r\in R$.
 
say $Z[i]$ is the set i am considering it in
My textbook has the question how many elements are in $Z[i]\ \langle 2 + 2i \rangle$
 
Do you mean the factor ring: $Z[i]/\langle 2+2i\rangle$?
 
yes
this doesn't make sense to me because this should include elements like $1(2+2i), 2(2+2i), ...$
so there should be an infinite number of elements correct?
why is it correct?
 
2:56 AM
any multiple of 2+2i is zero in the quotient ring Z[i]/(2+2i)
therefore those are not distinct elements; there is only one element listed (zero)
 
@WillJagy yes, the lock is gone, I just removed the moderator note.
@Potato what's up?
 
@anon can you help explain this to me, (I am seriously lost with this, I am not asking you top do my homework, its just i have been at this problem for 2 hours now)
 
Sure. Do you know what a quotient ring is? For instance, in Z/4Z, the elements 1(4),2(4),3(4),... are all zero.
 
wait, what
thats not what my book says
 
What does your book say? Don't paraphrase or interpret.
 
3:11 AM
ok
 
Also you didn't answer my question: do you know what a quotient ring is?
 
yes, its this: (wait a sec)
that right?
 
We say a subset $I\subset R$ is an ideal if it is an additive subgroup and closed under ambient multiplication, i.e. $RI\subseteq I$. The quotient ring $R/I$ is comprised of the additive cosets $a+I$, with addition defined as $(a+I)+(b+I)=(a+b)+I$ and $(a+I)(b+I)=ab+I$. At this point we have an exercise: show that these are well-defined operations on $R/I$.
Yup. Gallian I see.
 
Also my book never mentioned that a factor ring is is where all multiples are 0
I read the entire chapter
 
That's not the definition. It's a fact that becomes obvious once you really know what a quotient ring is.
 
3:16 AM
ok well in that case, no i dont know what a quotient ring is, the book never really said
 
With algebra, it is nice to carry examples in your head to test these general definitions and theorem against. Like you can think about what $Z/6Z$ should be or $Z/2Z$, etc.
 
If $a\in I$, then $a+I=0+I$ is zero in the quotient ring. Thus, if $I=(a)$ is the principal ideal generated by the element $a$, i.e. the set of all multiples of $a$, i.e. $I=aR$, then in $R/I$ we have that $ra+I=0+I$, hence is zero in $R/I$, for any $r\in R$.
In particular, adding 1 to itself four times in Z/4Z gives you zero. And any multiple of 2+2i is zero in the quotient ring Z[i]/(2+2i).
The fact that $a+I=0+I$ as additive cosets of $I$ when $a\in I$ is because $I$ is closed under addition. This is no different from $xH=H$ when $x\in H$ in group theory.
 
ok ok , let me take all this in
 
Read Example 11 in the chapter a little closer. It touches on this too.
 
which edition do you have?
 
3:22 AM
7th
 
ok
@anon What is an additive order?
 
Any ring R is an abelian group under addition, which we denote (R,+). The additive order of x in R is the order of x in the group (R,+). Why, where did you see this?
 
in example 11: To demonstrate that there is not, we will show that these five cosets are distinct. It suf-fices to show that 1 + (2 + 2i) has additive order 5.
 
indeed it does. I only needed to skim the beginning to see the exposition was relevant to you.
 
ok I read that, it does make more sense now that I have already attemped some problems now
 
3:37 AM
In my mind, the quotient ring R/I is what we get if we pretend everything in I is zero, and face up to the consequences. (For instance, if $a,b\in R$ differ by an element in $I$, then a consequence would be that they differ by zero hence $a=b$ in $R/I$.)
By the way, are you using our chatjax bookmark?
 
yes why?
 
well, if you weren't, then my using latex would have been hampering rather than helpful
 
It is very helpful
i love latex
@anon Hey thanks alot by the way
you really cleared up alot
 
np
 
3:56 AM
Can someone give me an example that sets X < Y < Z, where X is not an open subset of Z but it's an open subset of Y ?
 
$(0,1]\subset [0,1]\subset {\bf R}$
Note that, given $X\subseteq Y\subseteq Z$ where $Z$ is a topological space, if $Y$ is open in $Z$ and $X$ is open in $Y$ then $X$ is necessarily open in $Z$.
 
In the case $Y$ not open in $Z$, one can always produce the example $Y\subseteq Y\subset Z$.
 
@anon could you explain me why (0,1] is open in [0,1] ?
 
the open sets of [0,1] are obtained as the intersections of open sets in R against [0,1]. In particular, (0,1] is obtained as the intersection of the open interval (0,a) with [0,1], for any a>1.
 
That's an interesting way to explain, but go on.
 
4:04 AM
go on? I already finished.
 
Oh, then I didn't get it.
 
That is all there is to it. This topology is called the subspace topology.
 
which part didn't you get? break it down into bullet points and specify where you don't follow.
 
My understanding is, an open subset consists of interior points only. How is (0,1] interior to [0,1] ?
I can see that it is not closed because the limit point 0 is not contained in (0,1]
 
there is a definition of interior that is specific to Euclidean space, and there is also a definition of interior point that is generic and applies to any space. which are you using?
 
4:07 AM
But I also learned that not being open doesn't mean that it's closed and vice versa.
It is likely that I am using for a Euclidean space because I am learning about metric spaces, compactness and such.
 
well, any point in (0,1] has a ball around it contained in (0,1]. that should be clear for all x in (0,1), so it suffices to see that 1 has a ball around it contained in (0,1]. pick the open ball of radius 1/2 around 1 inside the topological space [0,1], and you will get (1/2,1], which is indeed contained in (0,1].
that is, B(1,1/2) = {x in [0,1] s.t. |x-1|<1/2} = (1/2,1] is contained in (0,1]
 
I'm so sorry I don't think I can understand this ... I
m having such a hard time understanding topology. Maybe I can start by asking what the difference is between a ball, a neighborhood and an interval ?
 
A neighborhood of a point x in a space S is a set containing x, which also contains some open set U which contains x. An open ball (defined in metric spaces) of radius r, denoted B(x,r) (notation varies), is the set of all points a distance less than r away from x. An open interval in R is a set of the form (a,b) (where a and/or b might be infinity), and other intervals include those of the form [a,b),(a,b] and [a,b].
 
Hey guys
 
hi
 
4:17 AM
But let's break things into pieces like I suggested @hyg17. (a) A point in a metric space is interior to the set S if there is a ball around that point contained in S. (b) Every element of (0,1) is an interior point of (0,1] in the space S=[0,1]. (c) x=1 is an interior point of the set (0,1] in the space [0,1]. Which part do you want to go over first?
 
It's (a) and (b). How come 1 is interior point of (0,1) ? it's not included in it.
 
I never said 1 is an interior point of (0,1), and the part where I said 1 is an interior point of (0,1] was part (c), not (a) or (b).
 
Hmm... so all points in (0,1) is interior to (0,1]. that is why (0,1) is an open set in (0,1], am I correct so far ?
 
To show (0,1] is open in [0,1], under your definition of open (as containing all interior points), we must show everything in (0,1] is an interior point of (0,1]. This breaks into two parts: showing everything in (0,1) is an interior point of (0,1], and showing 1 is an interior point of (0,1].
@hyg17 yes, but that's not relevant unless I misunderstand why you want that fact
 
Okay.
Why is 1 interior point of (0,1] ?
 
4:24 AM
because there is an open ball (remember the overarching space here is [0,1]) around 1 contained in (0,1]
 
So, no matter how small the radius is, the ball centered at 1 will contain a point inside (0,1]. Is that right ?
 
yes, it will contain 1 in particular
but again, I don't see how that's relevant
to show 1 is interior inside the subset (0,1] of the metric space [0,1], you need to show there is an open ball around 1 that is contained within (0,1]. this does not mean we want to show every open ball around 1 has merely some point inside (0,1].
 
Okay, now I got why (0,1) is an open subset of (0,1]. Then how is (0,1) not open in R ?
 
(0,1) is open in R. I never said it wasn't.
I said X=(0,1] is open in Y=[0,1] but X=(0,1] is not open in Z=R.
 
Oops, that's what I meant.
 
4:29 AM
so you're asking why (0,1] is not open in R? Because in the metric space R, 1 is not an interior point of (0,1] (even though it is an interior point if the metric space is instead [0,1]).
 
My book tells me that "A point p is interior of E if there is a neighborhood N of p such that N is a subset of E" Why is 1 the problem? isn't 1 inside (0,1] ?
 
Firstly, do you agree that that definition of interior is equivalent to "a point p is interior of E iff there exists an open ball around p that is a subset of E" (in the case of metric spaces)?
Also, you seem not to have read what I just said, which stated that 1 is interior to (0,1] if the metric space is [0,1] but is not interior if the metric space is all of R.
 
Could you explain me why it is not open ? I don't understand the open ball part.
 
(0,1] is not open (in R) because 1 is not an interior point of (0,1] (in R) since any open ball around 1 (in R) will contain points strictly bigger than 1 whereas (0,1] does not contain any points strictly bigger than 1 hence none of these balls can be contained in (0,1].
 
That made perfect sense ! thank you !

Gosh you must have been so frustrated because of such a basic question.
I will make sure I learn a little better :)
 
4:42 AM
no worries
 
So, irrational number is not an old name to real number?
Until now, I thought it was.
 
It's just numbers that cannot be expressed as a fraction, right ?
 
Yes.
One question: If we get the set of real numbers and subtract the set of irrational numbers, the remaining numbers will be the rational numbers?
 
expressible as ratios of integers specifically
@GustavoBandeira yes. do you know the law of the excluded middle? either something is true or it isn't. thus, either "x is a rational number" is true, or it's false. the logical negation of "x is a rational number" is by definition "x is an irrational number"
 
@anon Yes, but I was thinking about some possibility of $\mathbb{R}$ containing more than just the irrationals and the rationals.
 
4:46 AM
"I was thinking about some x both not being rational and not not being rational" ...
the irrationals are defined as the complement in R of the subset of rationals
 
That is such a mathematician's way of thinking , lol.
 
@anon It's not really obvious to me. The premise that there are only rationals and irrationais inside the reals is not obvious to me.
 
whenever A is a subset of X, the sets A and X\A partition the set X. Which is to say that their intersection is trivial and their union is all of X.
 
I never read the following line: "There are ONLY the Rationals and the Irrationals.
 
"x is either rational or irrational" is exactly the same as "x is either rational or it is not rational," by the very definition of irrational (= "not rational"), which is as obvious a thing as you can get ("something is either true or it isn't")
 
4:49 AM
@anon It is now. But I never read that $\mathbb{R}=Rationals+Irrationals$. There could be some other numbers inside it. Dunno.
Most of the stuff I saw placed the reals as something deeply nebulous.
 
indeed, there could be. if you had no idea what the word "irrational" meant :)
 
@GustavoBandeira Reals are constructed as a completion set of rationals. All the elements of reals which are not rationals are called irrationals.
 
The worst part is that I knew it.
 
of course, if you want to complicate matters, look into algebraic versus transcendental numbers
 
I knew that Irrational number is a number that can't be expressed as a/b, where a and b are integers and b$\neq$0.
Yes.
 
4:52 AM
@GustavoBandeira And how do you define rational number?
 
Algebraic numbers are numbers that can be expressed as a solutions to a polynomial with integer coefficients, right?
@user1 I just said it now.
 
@GustavoBandeira You defined *ir*rational numbers.
 
Oh.
Yes.
Numbers that can...
@user1 Yep, I meant the opposite.
 
No, Gustavo just defined transcendental numbers, not irrational numbers.
 
@anon Follow the chain of arrows in the chat.
 
4:55 AM
I see.
 
So numbers that can be expressed as a solutions to a polynomial with integer coefficients, right? is actually a transcendental number definition?
 
numbers that can not*
 
you edited your description, changing the original 'cannot' to 'can'.
 
@anon Yes.
 
algebraic numbers, being of an algebraic persuasion of course, are roots of integer-coefficient polynomials (polynomials are algebraic thingies). those that transcend polynomials, those numbers that are not roots of any integer coefficient polynomial, are transcendental numbers.
 
4:59 AM
@anon I possess a book in which the author says that algebraic numbers are numbers that can be expressed as solutions to a polynomial with integer coefficients. But wikipedia says about rational coefficients.
 
@GustavoBandeira Multiply a polynomial in $\mathbb Q[x]$ by a common denominator of the coefficients to get a polynomial in $\mathbb Z[x]$ with the same roots.
 
@GustavoBandeira those definitions are equivalent
 
yes
the same
not thinking
lol
 
@user1 Oh, got it. Thanks.
There are letters for the most famous sets, $\mathbb{R},\mathbb{Q},...$ Is there one for the irrational numbers?
 
People just use $\Bbb R\setminus\Bbb Q$.
 
5:05 AM
Got it. Thanks.
"because all the recurring decimals correspond to rational numbers" - Is there a proof for it?
I've never seen it.
 
In Jacobson's Basic Algebra vol I, this is a problem.
 
write the decimal expansion as A+A/10^k+A/10^(2k)+A/10^(3k)+...
 
The hint is to use the pidgeonhole principal.
 
eventually recurring suffices
 
I guess I got it. It's similar to what I was thinking.
 
5:09 AM
Oops, I mixed it up with Herstein's text.
 
For instance, $0.1\overline{23}=0.1(0.23+0.23/10^2+0.23/10^4+\cdots)$. Moral of the story, any eventually recurring decimal expansion can be made into a rational using the geometric series formula.
 
It's impossible with a pencil. =/
 
the fuck happened to caveman?
good lord. these people and their account deleting. this is MSE, not a soap opera.
2
 
5:27 AM
Why did he delete it?
 
@AlexanderGruber Strangled by his beard.
 
TeXworks wouldn't parse my latex document because I think I had a & misplaced. I removed all &'s from my latex code (literally all of them), but it still cites "\insertsectionhead ...er analysis on ${\bf Q}_p$ & Tate's thesis" as the error (which is a version of the section title that is no longer present in my code). I have experienced this before, where I remove something TeXworks didn't like but then it still thinks it's there in the code. Anybody familiar with this?
I now literally copy/pasted the code to a new tex file in a different folder, and now it parses fine. same fix I used the other times too.
 
Is some auxiliary file not updated?
 
I changed nothing outside of the code itself (the present of a & in one of the section titles) when the error occurred
 
You could just delete anything but the tex file after removing ampersands and see what happens.
 
5:37 AM
interesting
 
I have a file tensor.tex, and when compiled, it creates a file called tensor.aux which has all section names (for a toc even though I don't have one) along with other information.
 
so it's like the error gets saved outside of the code itself?
 
Yes, the aux file must update later on in the compile process.
But if it exists it is referenced earlier than that. lol
I know that the toc needs two compiler passes to create successfully; it probably has something to do with this.
 
@AlexanderGruber He evolved and became smart.
 
6:32 AM
@GustavoBandeira well he's missin' out!
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yay last minute studying for Linear Algebra quiz tomorrow morning
>.<
The worst part about Linear Algebra is when you read a definition for something and you have no idea what they hell a letter is referring to (a basic/matrix/subspace/etc)
>.<
 
@anon hey you there
I think I figured it out
 
mhm
 
@anon $Z[i]/\langle2+2i \rangle$ has only 2 elements!
 
oh?
 
6:38 AM
In this institution!
 
yeah, im pretty sure
like this
we can deduce that $-2 = 2i$, so fromt his we get $-1 = i$ and $2 = 0$
 
that implies the characteristic is two
 
wait, thats it?
that is enough to show there is only 2 elements?>
 
it is possible for 2=0 to hold in a ring with more than two elements (in fact, it can have infinitely many elements)
 
oh ok but im not done
 
6:41 AM
I am eating apple pie for breakfast. Beat that.
 
@Eric Division by 2 is impossible here.
(2 is a zero divisor)
 
ah, yes
 
what?
i cant divide by 2?
 
because 2 has no multiplicative inverse
 
ok well can I say that $-2 = 2i$ give $4 = -4$ gives $8 = 0$
?
 
6:43 AM
Looks good.
 
ok
 
In a ring R, if ab=0 for nonzero elements a,b in R, then neither a nor b can have an inverse. For suppose (wlog) a has an inverse a', so aa'=1. Then a'(ab)=0 implies b=0, a contradiction.
 
hmm so are there 8 elements?
 
Here in Z[i]/(2+2i), set a=2 and b=1+i and we have ab=0 though neither a nor b is zero (i.e. neither a nor b is in the ideal (2+2i))
@Eric I think there are 8 elements, but you haven't shown that yet.
 
ok i know how
 
6:45 AM
note you can go further and show that 4=0
because 4=2*2=2(1+i)(1-i)=(2+2i)(1-i)
 
wait what
4 = 0?
crap this is hard
 
but you can show that 0,1,2,3 are all distinct.
 
ok
 
since the set {0,1,2,3} is closed under subtraction, to show they are distinct (which is to show that a-b is not 0 in the quotient ring when a,b are distinct from that set) it suffices to show that none of 1,2,3 are 0
but if k=m(2+2i) in the gaussian integers Z[i] for some m, then taking norms we get 8|k^2, which does not hold for k=1,2,3. this shows that there are at least 4 elements in this quotient ring.
 
taking norms?
i dont follow you sir
 
6:50 AM
N(a+bi)=a^2+b^2 is the norm map, it is multiplicative
 
One could also appeal to Lagrange's theorem, since the additive subgroup--not ideal--generated by 1 has order 4, the ring has to have size 4r for some integer r.
 
now, the general form of elements will be a+bi. 2ki=-2k and (2k+1)i=-2k+i. hence every element in Z[i]/(2+2i) can be written in the form a+bi where a is in {0,1,2,3} and b is 0 or 1. this is precisely 8 elements.
 
wait what
where did you get teh 0
 
@user1 for this we still have to rule out characteristic 2 (and the trivial ring) in order to know 1 has additive order 4 (which is still easier than using norms when one hasn't heard of them, I bet)
 
I follows you all the way to (2+2i)(1-i), but how does that equal 0
 
6:52 AM
@Gnintendo because 2+2i is 0
 
since when? O.o
 
since we're working in the quotient ring Z[i]/(2+2i)
 
@anon Yeah, I quickly do some ideal division for those, but I now realize that both approaches can be difficult for a beginner.
 
:stare:
blink blink
I've only taken through Linear Algebra >.>
 
@anon ok, so what exactly did you "take norms" of?
to get $8 \mid k^2$
 
6:55 AM
@Eric if say 2=(2+2i)k for some gaussian integer k in Z[i], then apply the norm to both sides and get 4=(4+4)N(k), which implies 8|4.
 
@Gnintendo Well then you probably wont understand any of this. Sorry man. :(
 
>.<
I don't even know what a quotient ring is :<
but I do know I have a Linear Algebra quiz tomorrow morning, last quiz before the last test before the final
 
@Gnintendo (and you don't want to)
 
do you know what a ring is? taking a quotient is essentially pretending some stuff is zero and facing the consequences.
 
k and what is Z[i]
 
6:57 AM
Something isomorphic to the quotient $\mathbb Z[x]/(x^2+1)$.
 
oh, Z is all integers
so these are all integers that are multiples of i?
divided by 2+2i, if 2+2i is zero?
or is i not the ideal of ℤ in this case?
 
now you're just guessing random stuff :)
 
shrug
 

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