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Q: I can't join a Minecraft LAN server

1:12 AM

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Me and my brother are using the same network, but a screen pops up after I try to connect and it says: io.netty.AbstractChannel$AnnotatedConnectException: Connection timed out: no further information: It times out in about five seconds and I'm not sure what to do. I also have an ethernet and he...

1:43 AM

Woo officially going to Atlanta in August

19 for I think 1 against and 2 abstaining?

Some number of votes that was 19 for and 23 total on an approval voting ballot

Lowest was 18 for

But we had 6 slots and 6 candidates so the only way one of us would not be elected would be by having more no votes than yes votes

Wipqozn

@Unionhawk That's radtastic

2:04 AM

I honestly can't wait to stay in a 4 star hotel to do DSA stuff lol

Huge upgrade from "basement of a church"

free DLC for Borderlands 2 for owners of base game until july 8th

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June 8th was yesterday

oh, well, it's still available

oh wait, july 8th

someone should edit that, or it's probably gonna get buried anyway and it won't matter

Oh it's a new DLC that just came out today

yea

2:17 AM

I heard about this from someone at work it's a new DLC to lead up to BL3

Nice

Tim Stone

Oh, Microsoft acquired Double Fine?

@Chippies I don't think you need to even do anything for this it just becomes a thing in your library

then again I own the season pass

user15026

2:42 AM

17 hours til election nominations close! Then the real fun begins! :D

Highlights from Polygon doing an E3 drinking game

Q: Was I supposed to perform the Blackroot ritual three times?

3:14 AM

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I did the Blackroot ritual once, where Rhalic teaches me how to use Spirit Vision. Then I got my second Source Point from Hannag, at which point the Narrator suggested that I should perform the ritual again - but I did not do it. Instead, I went ahead and got my third Source Point. Then the Narr...

divinity-original-sin-2

4:04 AM

cc @TimStone

Tim Stone

Hrmmmmm

I'm glad that boat had A shields otherwise I'd have died in an interdiction and lost a 200m haul

now I need to find every ship that I put a trade tycoon decal on and replace it with trade elite

which might only be this one

also: not looking forward to doing the 18% to master plus the full 100% to dangerous lol

I mean I guess with 1.4b assets and 1b credits I can just like, buy a turret anaconda but

Q: Blight mechanics (items and roles)

7:38 AM

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I asked Kirschstein how Blight mechanics worked, given that there are demonic Items that work with Blight mechanics. Now, there is no Demon role, but I wondered what would be possible consequences if a Demon capable of Blighting were ever to be implemented (imagine the horror if it would!). I'm ...

Q: How to determine which item/role mechanic overrules another, if they contradict each other?

8:18 AM

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There are some occasions when one Role or Item says that it will 'make x happens' and then another Role or Item says that it will 'make y happen'. An example is the Bloodletter's ability used on somebody carrying a Veil of Shadows. Is there some system or list that can be provided that tells wh...

Wrigglenite

8:32 AM

@Lazers2.0 Anyone here to flag that as spam?

9:43 AM

android's sip implementation hurts me so much

I know that sip is a mess, but why does this particular damn implementation never work.

but the call doesn't make it through :)

Okay, I solved it.

if you set a display name, it breaks.

No calls make through at all.

Also you can't edit your entries at all, that also breaks all incoming calls, even though register goes through and ring events are received.

Q: Minecraft: Force Item Entity to move to specific point, triggering explosion [1.14]

10:39 AM

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In the map Diversity 3, the player is tasked with putting wool into a chest, after which the wool visibly flies out of the chest, triggering an explosion and a changed block. I'm attempting to achieve something similar: a gold ingot is spawned, flies towards a blocked cave, which sets off an ex...

minecraft minecraft-commands

Q: What happens if two players use Potion of Acquiescence on each other?

10:59 AM

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If one or both players have other items, where do the items end up? Instead of two potions it could also be a potion and a Thief, or two Thieves... I assume items will be swapped, this seems the most logical/fair. Some confirmation would be nice though! :)

11:13 AM

@Unionhawk I didn't check if I had it added to my library or not, but usually pressing "Download now" adds it, which is what I did. Maybe someone who hasn't clicked on it yet can confirm that it gets added automatically?

@Chippies I can tell that sometimes you need to go to the DLC page and select it to be installed, otherwise it wont be on your library. I can confirm that when I go to the DLC page it doesnt have that blue marker thing (That tells that I already own that)

I think if you own it, it will show "in library" on the DLC thumbnail on the DLC page

Checking lorenzostanco.com/lab/steam/u/soudescolado it doesnt show up

I have not installed it yet

@Chippies I didn't click because it prompted me to reinstall borderlands 2 as a whole but I see it in my owned dlc

I assume just that prompt is enough for steam to register the game as owned by you

11:22 AM

@Unionhawk okay, so that must mean it's automatically added to the libraries of the BL2 owners

the season pass only adds some DLC btw, that's why they have multiple season passes...

What who allowed this why did I buy it anyway

@Chippies but even if you buy all season passes you don't get all DLCs iirc :)

if you want everything, then go for this

which is the whole set for 97% off

actually, I'm not sure if there are multiple season passes (I thought there were?). The one they have doesn't include the last (couple?) headhunter dlc and it doesn't include the character dlc's

Tim Stone

@Unionhawk Your mistake was not buying a pass for every season

and I'm sure there's more that it doesn't include (I'm not including cosmetics obviously)

11:31 AM

@Chippies Usually when they release a new season pass they remove the older version from the page

@Ave costs me CAD$3.53 to buy this :D

I remember Magicka had like 6 ou 7 "All DLC" dlc

@Moacir not if you need both

Each time adding the lastest dlc released

did Destiny 2 have multiple season passes?

I can't remember what game I'm thinking of that had multiple season passes...

11:32 AM

@Chippies Which game that has operators again? Call of Duty?

@Moacir Idk, I've never played any CoD games

That each year they have a season pass

Rainbow Six Siege?

I think so

I remember the old times where there were no DLC but expansions, and expansions added a lot more to the game

11:45 AM

We can't flag election comments, can we?

@Chippies I think I paid like 15try for completing both me and my partner's collections

@Frank I think no

I wasn't going to, but ended up buying it just to get the one or two dlc I didn't have + all of the cosmetic crap that comes with it

gaming.stackexchange.com/election/6#comment-495681

Retro's being very hostile, so that comment needs to go.

@Frank It doesnt link to the comment, but the main election page

11:47 AM

Blarg. Last comment on my nomination.

At least when I click the link it doesnt, but I know which comment you are talking about

Maybe open a meta about it?

(Not the comment but the ability to flag them)

@Frank to me it seems like they're just expressing their opinion? I don't think removing negative comments would look very good...

@Chippies Negativity, no problem.

Outright personal attacks? Not okay, no matter when.

@Frank I guess I just don't see it? Idk

assuming I'm reading the same comment as you are

I personally don't see it as a personal attack either.

11:51 AM

they seem to be expressing their personal experience with you, which might be biased, but it's just their opinion

They are definitely being very harsh and speaking their mind very clearly about how they don't see you as a good candidate, but it's not a personal attack.

I see it as violating the Code of Conduct handily. I'd flag that, no matter who it's talking about, because it has nothing to do with being nice.

i don't think that the usual "no personal attacks" rule even applies here I think (obviously if it devolves to subjects not related to moderation it'd warrant moderative action though)

As a mod candidate you are more than your nomination post, you are who you are, and you're nominating yourself (not your post) for a position.

@Frank I feel like you're kinda proving their point here

if you were a mod, you would've already removed the comment without asking for opinions

imho, being a moderator, no action is better than hasty action that others disagree with

user15026

"it's just their opinion" is a very not good argument to make, regardless of content.

user15026

11:58 AM

(I haven't looked at the comment, because I can't do anything about it, and I am 2 min away from being able to sleep again)

I think the ability to flag should exist, even if it no action happens due to being an election or a mod decides it is not worthy deletion.

@Ash that's just the best way I could put in words what I meant :P

user15026

There is a difference between "you are not your ideas, judge the idea not the person" and "it's just an opinion therefore it doesn't matter don't let it get to you it's meaningless"

If someone spam links on every comment of the questionnaire for example, we should be able to flag it

Regardless of motives, if that specific case should or not be flagged or taken action, we still should have the ability to flag them.

user15026

I can see why they didn't so people didn't flag criticism of themselves but there is a line so easily crossed here that taking our tools away is kinda crap

12:03 PM

@Moacir flagging is fine, because it attracts more eyes on the comment

more eyes means more opinions which means a better idea if the comment is fine or not

saying "this comment is a personal attack, so it should go" when you're trying to get the tools to not have to go through flags, imho, is a no-no

when there's clearly other people that think it's not a comment worth deleting

and no one seems to be agreeing that it warrants deletion

I am just advocating for the flag tools per-se

@Moacir I find it odd that there's no option to link to comments directly either. The nomination page seems kinda bare-bones

The first sentence is attacking him directly imho. The rest is just harsh.

user15026

It's not a great comment. There are much better, kinder ways to word that exact sentiment.

Yeah, when we get notified the link in that notification is broken as well.

user15026

12:07 PM

There is no reason to be an ass just to get a point across.

user15026

Regardless, it's 8 am so I get to sleep again! Yay.

@Ash that I agree with

user15026

(FWIW I would delete it because it's a shit way to say a thing and is deliberately inflammatory but I can't do a dang thing so I am gonna nap)

and this is why I couldn't be a mod :P If I'm not sure what to do, I don't do anything

@Chippies that's a correct way, too. If you're unsure you could talk to your fellows first and make sure :P

12:11 PM

@dly it's why I prefer flags and votes, over the power of mod tools. With great power comes great responsibility and that's stressful :P

Spiderman :D

I've had that quote in my signature in most forums for over a decade and it's very true.

I should go to sleep. Sleep is good for a growing body :D

2 pm here, going to get another coffee

Btw, talking about elections, do OSHA host elections too or is it a thing from Brazil?

I think that's a Brazil thing.

12:14 PM

We have our version of OSHA (CIPA) that hosts elections between the employees to have members on it

in The Screening Room, May 21 at 6:29, by Memor-X

> With Great Power comes Great Responsibility to abuse it to mess with people in the chatroom

These elected members have 2 year stability, so they can "fight the boss" if violations are happening

But also it can be anyone that is willing to run

Q: Interaction between two marking systems (WH + Demon Eye)

12:39 PM

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How does the system respond to a player having two mechanics that mark players? Is it possible? Can it differentiate between two types of marks? What if two different marks are on the same player? The example here is a Witch Hunter with a Demonic Eye. I believe this is the only possible case at ...

1:05 PM

URSAL when

@Ave After the military coup

1:31 PM

@Ave I am inclined to agree. We are electing persons, not posts.

MBraedley

I'm sooooo tired

@Moacir [user was given a helicopter ride for this post]

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@Ave I just hope is not the same one used to transport cocaine

(it's kinda funny how talking about wanting to milkshake people is considered violent and must be stopped but talking about throwing people off helicopters somehow is perfectly fine)

Milkshaking people is just dumb and in some places considered assault but anyone who says it's violent is also dumb

Nobody has died from a milkshake

1:43 PM

@GnomeSlice it works and isn't violent, tho.

The Mattbat999

Well guys, we got 6 hours till voting starts for the mod positions

@GnomeSlice because no one who is lactose intolerant or allergic to dairy has been milkshaked yet

@Memor-X lactose intolerancy wouldn't do much unless you poured it down their mouth

Lactose intolerant isn't an allergy

@Memor-X I'm sure I would survive but lol

1:45 PM

So what Ave said

and even then it wouldn't kill, would it? doesn't lactose intolerancy just mean that it messes up your insides until it leaves your body?

@Ave they could accidentally sallow some that's thrown on them

@Ave And even then, nothing happens for thirty minutes or so.

@Kevin he said 'or'

But then after thirty minutes, it's hell on earth.

Speaking from experience.

1:45 PM

Lactose intolerant means that if I eat some dairy I get really disgusting smelling farts

user15026

But it isn't deadly afaik just unpleasant

It's pretty bad even for the producer

user15026

Which is why it is an intolerance

@Yuuki does the amount matter?

I don't think anyones died from lactose intolerance you just pass it without digesting it properly

1:46 PM

Oh no, that's wrong Gnome

as in, would "they could accidentally sallow some that's thrown on them" mess you up less than having, idk, a whole milkshake?

@Ave Well, your stomach/intestine's going to be upset either way.

Diarrhea and such happen

@Kevin oh. Honestly just a guess based on personal experience

But it does get worse if you ingest more lactose.

1:46 PM

@Kevin yes lol

I see.

@Ave I can eat a small amount of dairy without any effects so yeah amount does I guess?

Wrigglenite

@GnomeSlice At the risk of appearing pedantic, it's actually "she", look at pins

If I got a milkshake thrown at me it's highly unlikely I would develop diarrhea

I mean, maybe if it's a milkshake with a topping of nut crumble and the guy has a very severe nut allery, maybe it could kill them

1:47 PM

Sorry. I'm on mobile and I wasn't paying attention to names anyway

Think he knew who I meant

Anyhow, "allergic to dairy" is a valid concern

@Nzall lol that's true?

@Ave yeah I think that's a thing

@Ave it's dumb

Imo

@GnomeSlice it's dumb, but it works

Or if it is a 4 month old milkshake that is filled with listeria or something like that

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Meh if you say so, I think it's pretty childish

@Nzall oo yea now we're talking

1:49 PM

But then you immediately enter the "premeditated murder" stage

@Nzall I mean, at that point, just replace the milkshake with some vodka and replace the straw with some cloth on fire.

@Nzall that'll take some dedication.....and some god like forsight

Because you're not going to keep a milkshake around for 4 months hoping you can one day throw it at a nazi

@GnomeSlice that is the point. If you punch someone they're a martyr. If you throw a milkshake at a fascist they're a laughing stock

lmao national apparently changed the deadline for early-bird convention registration

what a functional organization

1:50 PM

Wouldn't keeping it at a warm environment make that faster?

hmmm, i got this milkshake from macdonalds but i see this guy on the street who i predict in 4 months time is going to be on TV saying something racist. maybe i should hold onto it

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keep it next to your oven for extra poetic justice

@Kevin yeah I guess that makes sense

@Nzall fireplace for bourgieness

Prob to hot, best to keep it at a nice 30 degree C

1:52 PM

you'll need some endurance too unless you can have it sealed someplace

and even then you have to carry it

Haha

I mean it's funny

@Memor-X -1 unrealistic for assuming the mcflurry machine isn't broken

wouldn't having a single 4 month old milkshake be enough?

split to 10, put those in 10 other milkshakes, keep them warm

@Ave Do milkshakes even go on dates?

@Yuuki oh god no

I'm not having this discussion again

twitter.com/Murmiration/status/1137288043063316480

1:56 PM

i'm now just thinking of American Dad when Rogger have those Death Dogs. except he is now "The Decider" who has a crate of 4 month old milkshakes

@Ave (I was in that voice call)

I have no clue what that means, I was just riffing off of "single 4 month old milkshake".

@Yuuki lol

@Yuuki yeah, I understood that

I just got a bit scared that the next point would be the 4 month old part

Lol

1:57 PM

because then it gets hellish, as proven by our 20 minute debate on if annoying orange can consent

@Ave gross

Counter-joke: "Wouldn't it be dates going on the milkshake?"

I ended up asking annoying orange's business account some questions we had, and they're ignoring me :(

@Ave , locked by a moderator after 12,239 pages of heated debate

Is an aggression less of an aggression if it has a motive?

1:58 PM

Well if the milkshake is only four months old its parents must have gone on a date

@Moacir Context?

@GnomeSlice my high school biology says that this is not needed and is not necessarily done by all species

@Yuuki For example, if someone throws a bucket of paint on someone vs someone throws a bucket of paint on someone wearing fur

I suck at jokes I guess

@Moacir that's terrible in either scenario?

@Unionhawk what was the original of this?

1:59 PM

@Ave twitter.com/dril/status/107911000199671808?s=19

@Unionhawk omg lol

@Unionhawk ah lmao

@Moacir I mean, they're both equally aggressive.

One just happens to have a ideological motivation.

honestly any community with functional moderation would have locked the thread thousands of pages ago

well does wario talk about how taxation is theft, and does he push for getting the age of consent lower?

2:03 PM

The other is probably some YouTuber recording a video about social experiments GONE WRONG!

@Ave I don't have an answer to this but what I can offer you instead are 3 critical perspectives on Waluigi, a postmodern, queer theory, and marxist analysis

theemptypage.wordpress.com/2013/05/20/…

WAH Law - As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of Waluigi being mentioned approaches 1, and the use of WAH approaches 2

@Unionhawk what the fuck

and now to make that 2 a 0

waluigi wah for one hour

►

@Ave yeah

2:39 PM

@Unionhawk I read it and all I can say it "waht did i just read"

25 mins ago, by Unionhawk

@Ave yeah

I honestly unironically like #1 and #3's analysis, #2 is a little weirder for me

that dynamic is certainly present in nintendo games (see skyward sword) but

@Ave Since you have tons of domains and everything I think you can help me. If I have a DNS redirect to a game server, would this cause lag as if it was a proxy/vpn or it would only use the DNS to connect and then it would work as direct connection?

@Moacir by dns redirect do you mean A/CNAME record?

if so it'd be the same speed past resolve, which should take less than a second

@Ave A/CNAME is like that NO-IP dns things?

no ip just points an A record to your IP Iirc

so that'd be as fast

there's services that proxy your local things to internet to get past nat

now that would slow things down, but if you're using such a service then it's prob your only option for hosting things

2:48 PM

@Ave I wanted to host a server on my home ip, but I didn't want to share the IP directly (I'm ok with the IP being discoverable if there is no other option)

But I dislike the idea of it being a lag generator

I think I have way too little knowledge about this. I know what I want but I think I cannot explain clearly

Do you recommend any DNS services? Considering I just want it to redirect traffic to a specific IP, no need for hosting or anything

@Unionhawk #2 is really just a build up to that final pun, imo, and is therefore the greatest.

3:07 PM

@Chippies, isnt it July 8th?

oh hey, osrs tournament practice worlds are back online

nice

but teleports are off

not nice

SaintWacko

I picked up a Fire HD 8 over the weekend to play OSRS on

Q: What was the first console or handheld to have a user interface outside of games?

oh they also locked everyone in the clan wars area

lol

Stormblessed

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Consoles like the NES didn't have any sort of menus when not playing a game. Nowadays, however, stuff like the Switch and PS4 have all sorts of stuff built in: What was the first video game console or handheld to have a user interface without being in a game?

gaming-history

"what was the first game to do x" is kind of weird territory that borders on identification

Stormblessed

3:15 PM

Well it's about consoles, which there are a lot less of

MBraedley

And generally isn't well received

Stormblessed

But I guess maybe

what was the first game to do x, is off topic for game identification afaik

Q: What was the first console or handheld to have a user interface outside of games?

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Consoles like the NES didn't have any sort of menus when not playing a game. Nowadays, however, stuff like the Switch and PS4 have all sorts of stuff built in: What was the first video game console or handheld to have a user interface without being in a game?

gaming-history

what was the first system to do x is the same question, just about hardware instead of software

Q: Are "what was the first..." questions on topic?

3:22 PM

I see this post updated 2015 but that text doesn't match our current off-topic->game id text

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In another question, someone pointed out that the "first game of X" class of questions, and those that are similar, have certain faults and should get some additional analysis. What should be done with them? Examples: https://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/10775/which-fps-came-up-with-the-h...

discussion allowed-questions

I'm not certain if there's a better different one somewhere

@Unionhawk when we updated our close reason for game id, we were trying to highlight that things from memory were off topic, but we kinda lost the part about identifying based on features/etc are also off topic. i wonder if i can squeeze that into 400 characters without losing too much from our current close reason

Wrigglenite

"First game to do X" seems fairly objective, I don't think it's subject to the same issues as identifying from memory

It's trivia and fairly useless, but I wouldn't call it off-topic

Maybe I'll post an answer to that meta in a bit

3:42 PM

looks like i can squeeze in a bit

@Wrigglenite instead of posting an answer to that meta, i would suggest asking a new question