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12:39 AM
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Q: Hands render in world and hotbar renders over menus with FTB Revalvation and Optifine

AidoI'm running FTB Revalvation with Optifine, and the other day my hands started to render in world / behind blocks and hotbar renders over menus. Attached is a picture of the hands thing, you can see it clipping through the wall and the shield clipping into the Tinker's workbench.

 
12:59 AM
@Memor-X you need battle.net account for Starcraft II though, right? That's same as needing a Steam account for most other games
 
@Chippies Steam Account to download but mostly all the games i have brought i don't need to log in to play them
 
@Memor-X Idk what kind of games you play that are drm free, but most of the ones I own require me to be logged into steam
 
@Memor-X I have Age of Wonders 3, which has the same deal going on and for singleplayer you can just tick "guest mode" in the launcher and away it goes
That said, I'm pretty sure for that it's a "triumph account" and not a "paradox account", so who knows how they differ
 
@Chippies well some games force Steam to open but since i have it in offline mode and use this to skip updates i din't have to log in or be online to validate. given there's been some hickups like Steam saying that some games now saying they need to be downloaded when they don't (still need to work out what's causing that) but a bunch of them i can boot from there .exe or from Steam without needing account logins
 
I'm pretty stoked for AoW:PF, since AoW is probably my favourite grand strategy game
(admittedly a small field)
@Chippies Kerbal Space Program comes immediately to mind
 
1:11 AM
before my Video Card started to play up and i stopped running Steam Games i had played Borderland, Monster Monpiece, Don't Starve, Factorio, Half-Life, Saints Row 2, Dawn of Discovery, Divine Divinity, Train Valley 1 and 2, Stellaris, The Witcher, Stranger of Sword City, Xanadu Next, Cladun 2, Terraria, Might and Magic Heroes V, Dawn of War: Warhammer 40k
there's probably others, the limited space left on my HDD couldn't allows me all of my library and am still downloading it along with some weird stuff like now Monster Monpiece and Don't Starve say they need to be downloaded when they are
oh yeh, Trouchlight, the 3 Steamworld Games, Rabi-Ribi and Castlevania: Lord of Shadows
 
@Memor-X it's worth noting that there's a difference between "works in offline mode" (the vast majority of steam games) and "does not depend on steam authentication at all" (a still large, but much smaller, set of games)
The latter will e.g. continue to work even if you uninstall steam or transfer them to another computer where steam has never been installed.
 
when i get my upgraded computer i'll soon be able to which games force Steam to boot up, which don't and which require internet access for dumb logins or whatever
@ToxicFrog yeh i know. Dragon Age Origins is one as it forces Steam to boot up so i assume any game that does that would probably not fit the latter
but once you got Steam to save your login and you stop it looking for updates every time it boots up that's when you can truly test which games have DRM or not. though GoG is the way better system since you can download through the website and the games are all DRM free. which is one thing i am hoping from this GoG Galaxy 2 with it's cross store support and if it will be a more guaranteed way to determine if a game is DRM Free given GoG's (and CD Projekt Red's) stance on DRM
@ToxicFrog yeh but the Steam Page doesn't list account requirement unlike Planetfall which is the concern in the back of my head
and Steam does list most of the Assassin's Creed Games as needing a Ubisoft Account
 
@Memor-X yeah I do wish steam were better about listing this stuff in general
 
1:29 AM
@ToxicFrog i feel it does a better job than Epic.....or Ubisoft doesn't have the Epic version of Anno 1800 use either Denuvo or Ubisoft Account Login which if that's the case, makes one wonder why the Steam Version has it and not the Epic Version when they are both 3rd party vendors
hard to tell because Anno 1800 was going to be my benchmark for DRM Notes between the 2 but who know if as apart of the Exclusivity they can't use 3rd party accounts or drm
 
@Memor-X yeah, but that's a low bar to clear
Steam is kind of hit and miss on what they consider "DRM" (case in point, AoW:PF has the note about requiring a third-party account for MP, AoW3 lacks that note despite having the same requirement) and does not differentiate at all between DRM-free/requires steam/requires online steam
 
@ToxicFrog well hopefully GoG Galaxy 2 will help with that
if it requires Steam i assume it would make a note that you still need it installed as opposed to just having GoG Galaxy 2 to download all your games
 
GOG Galaxy 2 is not the first attempt to tilt at the "all your games in one launcher" windmill, I'm not optimistic
Also it won't run on my laptop and they explicitly have no plans to ever fix that sooooo
 
Pokemon…Sleep? For some reason?
 
@ToxicFrog what's the problem your getting?
 
1:37 AM
@Memor-X the laptop runs Linux, they have no plans for Linux support for GOGG2, Steam meanwhile runs flawlessly
 
@ToxicFrog ahhhhh......i suppose saying to use Wine isn't going to help?
 
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Q: Chunks and Redstone

fuzbuster83I'm relatively new to Minecraft but I'm having trouble find a straightforward solution to my problem. I've built a minecart track about 479 blocks long in a straight line. I placed redstone torches every 8 blocks and a row of 3 powered rails to keep my cart moving unattended or to be used as a f...

 
Wine is not super reliable, and also has the problem -- or so I assume, since every other cross-platform launcher has this issue -- that running the windows version of the launcher in wine means it installs the windows versions of the games even if a linux version exists
 
2:40 AM
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Q: How do you add mob heads & items to loot tables 1.14?

Jordan RamirezI'm trying to add mob heads & other items in to existing loot tables. I had found a json file that will drop zombie heads once the zombie has been killed by the player. I tested it out and it seems to not work. I also tried adding a pool from another table so it'll drop bones too but that didn't ...

 
3:20 AM
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Q: Why do you have to be at least the Invisible level of Online-ness to get Trading Cards?

MalandyWhy do you have to be at least the Invisible level of Online-ness to get Trading Cards? Instead of literally just signing on every week or so, even if you're registered as offline? At least according to the Booster Pack Eligibility notice when you look at it in the Trading Cards menu?

 
3:36 AM
@fredley nope, I'm stepping down too.
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3:52 AM
wow, Mobiles games suck and the people who advertise them suck so much of their ass too
i am also somewhat conflicted and a tad bit sick because another youtuber who i respect did a sponsored by clip in an episode and while Upper Echelon Gamers didn't name the game in the email they talk about, the talking points are almost identical
like some of their sponsored by clips i have taken notice of in the past because they were for services i could be interested in, but now it could actually be the same kind of thing with the mobile game
 
user15026
4:48 AM
Wheeee it is 1247 am and I am waiting for a ride to an event and oh man it's weird to be out
 
@Ash But if it's in the city it's also beautiful to see the light on at that late of hour
 
user15026
It's quiet out!
 
@Ash but are you uptown?
 
My asthma medication comes with reassuring warnings such as ‘may slow down child development if used for a long time, but poorly controlled asthma can also slow down growth’
(I’ve used this drug since I was 5)
 
5:44 AM
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Q: How do tree platforms work in Snakebird?

user994998I am trying to understand when a tree platform will support a snakebird and when it will not. It does not seem to be consistent to me at this time. For example, in level 3, the snakebird begins resting on a tree platform. After moving right twice, the snakebird is horizontal and supported by the...

 
6:04 AM
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Q: (Java Minecraft 1.14) How to save a player's scoreboard team temporarily for later use?

Nik3141I'm writing a datapack for a server I play on, and want to implement a feature like Xisumavoid's AFK datapack. What it does is it changes any AFK player's nametag to gray color in the tab menu, presumably by adding them to an AFK team. Unfortunately, my server already has teams on it, so I need t...

 
6:16 AM
Morning chat
 
Morning @Kevin
 
user15026
6:42 AM
@Kevin waves
 
user15026
@GodEmperorDune I am not sure!
 
user15026
(before anyone tells me to go the f*ck to sleep - I am at a Baha'i event! I am supposed to be awake!)
 
Fall asleep anyway!
nods
 
@Ash I know y’all have your own calendar, do y’all have your own clock now too?
 
user15026
laughs some older men are nodding off I noticed in this break. I just grabbed a bit more of the really nice spiced tea.
 
user15026
6:45 AM
@GodEmperorDune haha nope it's very much 244 am, this is just a special thing as we are intended to commemorate the Ascension of Baha'u'llah as close to the time it happened (2 am ish)
 
user15026
(normally we do things at "normal" time. This is just an exception because it is very important)
 
7:59 AM
twitter onebox pls
@RavenDreamer Seriously? RIP literally all the decent mods.
Except for @Robotnik
 
Dear online video streaming services, if you're going to label a video as "recommended for you", please make sure that the video is available in the user's region first.
Like, I thought that's one of the basic concepts: don't recommend a product to a user if the user is unable to use the product
 
user15026
8:18 AM
It's 421 am and I am just heading home and I feel beautiful and alive and content.
 
@Ash That's nice. I woke up at 6am feeling terrible, it's now after 9 and I still feel terrible.
 
user15026
8:41 AM
@fredley that is unfortunate :( it's too bad I can't give you an infusion of feelings through the internets. :( I hope you feel better!
 
Ave
9:03 AM
gmail's obfuscation hurts my head
 
 
1 hour later…
10:18 AM
@Ash Yeah, just general shitness of life atm
Thanks for your internet feelings infusion
@Ave "What if everything was guids?" - A Gmail PM, probably
 
Ave
10:32 AM
@fredley "what if we put no security into our email drm?" - Another Gmail PM, probably
 
@Ave "incel inside"? Well then
 
Ave
(fun fact, that's actually not the local copy I had, that's the copy I dumped from a confidential mail)
 
@Ave You can probably get a few thousand USD from Google if you report that vulnerability
 
@Nzall I just happen to see this now, but I honestly have no idea how you got the idea Robotnik isn't active. He's extremely active in moderation. He just doesn't visit the bridge.
 
Ave
@Nzall It's not a vulnerability, and I doubt that I'd get a dime for it
 
10:47 AM
@Wipqozn I meant as users. Robotnik at the time hadn't asked or answered a question since late 2018
 
Ave
besides I already went public about it + I don't want to support google fix their shit. I hate how they're breaking what makes email email.
 
Ah, looks like I was mistaken about Robotnik
default the activity list defaults to questions, but he had made answers since then
 
11:10 AM
Morning chat
@Memor-X I like your wallpaper/widgets. Is it/was rainmeter?
 
@Moacir yeh i do have rainmeter and the Daemon Tool Desktop App
when did i post my desktop?
 
Your steam solution
You mentioned you play it offline, skip updates
Then I went on and on your question you have a screenshot that shows your desktop
 
@Moacir oh right i had a link in that post
 
Sorry if that came out as creepy
 
@Moacir lol, don't worry i wasn't creeped out, just wasn't sure how the post was related to my desktop until you reminded me of the link
 
11:35 AM
@Nzall Indeed, but just an FYI, mods aren't required to remain active doing Q&A on the site. IT's great if we do, but honestly our main job is just handling flags.
 
11:47 AM
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Q: Game crash after loading CLEO mod in GTA:SA

princeI'm trying to edit cleo mod for handling editor, but it's still crashing even if I reinstalled whole GTA and did a lot of steps to really run this script. But I wonder if it's an error in code, so I checked that in Sanny Builder and i saw very strange hex numbers (when I decode it, it's ...

 
@Lazers2.0 So Joachim said in here that questions about modded games are off-topic here. I thought it was only modded Minecraft that was out of scope?
 
@Nzall I think we just support Vanilla games because modding can change way too much. Not only minecraft, but even skyrim would be hard to provide correct support
 
Ave
@Nzall it's still minecraft only, if no new meta change was done. So yeah, I voted to undelete.
 
@Ave Huh, I thought Skyrim would be a candidate for "Nope, not answering that" too
 
Tech support for modded games is on topic, except when the game is Minecraft
However, from what I can tell, this question was asking about editing a mod, which sounds more appropriate for game dev than here
 
11:55 AM
@ToxicFrog I know there are games that are actually drm-free on steam, but I really don't think those are the majority :)
 
@Chippies I think Project Zomboid and Stardew Valley both work if you run the executable without steam
 
I have some that I know don't need steam to be running (can't remember any off the top of my head since it's not something I actively look for), but most games use steam for authentification/drm
@Memor-X if the game requires steam to save your login to boot, it still uses steam to authenticate your copy
 
@Chippies I don't think they are, no, but that was never any part of my point??
 
@Chippies well i consider my login saved on Steam and able to be copy and pasted to a new PC with no net connection to be about the same as me logging into GoG and downloading a game installer from my library through the browser
 
12:10 PM
@Memor-X IMO the main difference there is that offline mode can and eventually does time out; gog installers do not.
 
@ToxicFrog well i haven't had it timeout yet but maybe it's getting refreshed when i update the library when i buy more games
 
@Ave yeah, "confidential mail" looks to me like (a) a terrible idea on its face that (b) breaks interoperability in attempt to accomplish something that (c) is not actually possible, something that Google's own documentation about CM acknowledges
So I have no idea why it even exists.
 
Ave
@ToxicFrog exactly
it'd make a lot more sense if they added pgp support, tbh.
 
That's completely orthogonal to the goal of CM, though, since as stated it's for cases where you don't trust the receiver of the mail
 
i just with more places did what GoG did and just let me download the installer via the browser and i have some games on Steam that i would have rather gotten on GoG now
 
12:14 PM
I.e. you want to be able to send someone information via email but don't want them to be able to keep a copy of it or forward it to someone else or, say, leak it to the press
Or send a copy to regulatory agencies
Or keep it as evidence in a stalking/harassment case
 
Ave
I feel like it's just going to be abused by people to send spam too
 
It's really pretty amazing how the more I think about this feature the worse it gets!
 
Ave
@ToxicFrog correct, but it'd actually be a good thing to call "confidential".
I wonder now, does it even enable screen protection if viewed on the android app?
 
No idea
But I'm 90% confident that taking a photograph of the screen with another android phone and using Google's built in OCR will work
 
@ToxicFrog it's not bad if the world worked on an honour system
 
12:21 PM
@Memor-X if the world worked on an honour system this would be completely unnecessary, you could just put "please don't copy this email" at the top
This feature is only useful in world where (a) the people you're sending the email to are completely untrustworthy but are also (b) far too stupid to take screenshots or google "how to copy google confidential mail"
 
Ave
@ToxicFrog sounds like something companies would love, it's 100% security theater, but with 0% security.
kinda like pizza cutters, all edge, no point.
that said, I don't hate the SMS code to view email idea. Might be useful if you're emailing passwords or whatever, the fact that it expires helps it too, but it's made useless by the fact that you can't copy
9 mins ago, by ToxicFrog
It's really pretty amazing how the more I think about this feature the worse it gets!
I can relate so much to this
 
@Ave I dunno, I actually use pizza cutters. Less so recently, since I've stopped buying frozen pizzas.
 
Ave
@Yuuki in my experience, they fail to go deep enough
regular knives tend to work better at cutting all the way through on the first attempt
 
I've never had that problem with pizza cutters; maybe you need a sharper one and/or more force.
 
but the joke in this case is because they are round, they do not really have a point in the same sense as other knives might
 
12:32 PM
@Ave If you can access the content in any way on a device you own, you can 'break' DRM.
 
Ave
@fredley see, this is not about accessing
 
Because if it'll render it to your screen or whatever, you can get it to render to a file of some kind
 
Ave
it's about dumping
 
Wtf
 
12:33 PM
@Ave Anything you can access you can dump?
 
Ave
they say that it can't be downloaded, forwarded or printed
 
I can't think of a situation where you couldn't
Certainly not on the web
 
Ave
correct
 
I feel like I could dump it with like
 
@Ave Obviously bullshit tho. Screenshot tool?
 
12:33 PM
literally snipping tool
so idk how they're even claiming this
 
@Unionhawk inb4 your dump
 
@Unionhawk yes.
 
Ave
@fredley works on linux, but then again you can capture anything on linux
 
Like check out this bit from Google's own documentation:
@Important Although confidential mode helps prevent the recipients from accidentally sharing an email, it doesn't prevent recipients from taking screenshots or photos of your messages or attachments. Recipients who have malicious programs on their computer may be able to copy or download your messages or attachments.
 
@JasonBerkan Put it behind a tinyurl link or something so you can count victims
 
Ave
12:34 PM
(by "anything" I mean stuff like netflix etc, you can't on windows IIRC, it shows a black screen)
 
@Ave Exactly. If you can access the content on a linux machine (on which you have root), you can do whatever the fuck you want, because that's what being root means.
 
Ave
@ToxicFrog If that's their usecase then that name is horribly misleading ngl
 
@Ave no shit
 
Yeah this is overselling confidentiality and that is suuuper dangerous
Especially since the spooks watching gmail can now easily see which ones people didn't want read 🙃
 
Ave
@fredley this is my main concern, especially as it's now being rolled out to enterprise customers, and is by a major corp that (from what I've seen) has a good history with security
(I got this email today ^)
 
Ave
@fredley I logged into gmail and looked at an email for the first time in ~4 years today and this was one of the first things I noticed
it bugged me immediately
 
Yeah the hiding the unsub link is inexcusable
 
isn't that like
Probably Illegal
 
Especially since the auto-unsubscribe button went along with Google Inbox (RIP)
 
like doesn't CAN SPAM require you to have an address and an unsubscribe?
 
Ave
12:49 PM
@Unionhawk unlikely, it's in the mail, just not shown by the biggest provider unless you press a button
 
yeah true, there's probably no liability for gmail on that
nice
 
1:08 PM
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Q: Please, help me with one command

user232258I want to make my prison in minecraft. And i want to make the cameras, which in interaction with player, teleport him. Also i want to make isolation, like in The escapists 2

 
Dauntless is.. okay? I could probably have fun playing it with my girlfriend
cc @Sterno
The combat is fun enough, but the environments are way smaller and less detailed than in MHW
Might get boring
 
1:26 PM
Genderfluid trees
 
1:38 PM
@Lazers2.0 "Help me with one command" requests a full prison system with camera, teleports and isolation
 
@Moacir one command to rule them, and in my prison bind them
 
@fredley I wonder if CodeReview accepts minecraft commands for better implementation
Now I want to play minecraft
There is a streamer that I know that fears creepers. When he is online and on discord, I just get in to send a "Tsss" sound with Soundpad.
(He is ok with it, just to be clear)
 
1:55 PM
I remember when I used to play Minecraft
vaguely
 
that was probably what 8 years ago
 
Fuuuuuuuuuuck don't you dare even count it out like that
 
tbf it was probably like,
6, now that I think about it
 
I think I played last year, but heavy modded (Skyfactory 3 I think)
 
Pretty sure it was like 2011 or 2012 when I was still playing Minecraft
urgh
 
2:36 PM
I even streamed minecraft in the past, but the problem is the amount of work you need to do to keep chat civil, because some people just go around to stir problems in minecraft streams
Yesterday a guy was in this streamer's channel and repeatedly spammed "gei" (An attempt to call him gay, I guess), while there was no moderation at the time (Small streamer). It is kinda demotivating that people go out just to try to generate hate
 
I started in 2008/9 I think
Alpha
 
@Ave I wonder if Gmail uses GWT or Angular. The obfuscated class names make sense since that’s a common feature in modern build tools, but the in-line event handlers hurts my brains too
Did... Nintendo really name the next version of Pokeball Plus the Pokeball Go Plus Plus?
 
@fredley 2010-08-13T15:40
 
Pokémon Go Plus +, if we're splitting hairs
 
@fredley At least its what is shown on mojang.net
 
2:46 PM
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Q: Germaneness of question on game ban

JoachimWhile I was answering the question Why do you have to be at least the Invisible level of Online-ness to get Trading Cards? it got put on hold. Which is perfectly appropriate; I got too intrigued by the OP's odd way of phrasing the question that I never considered its appropriateness. However, ...

 
I feel like Nintendo has achieved programming language level of bad naming
 
Remember the WiiU?
 
Oh god
 
They've had a long time to practice
 
I got my minecraft on 2010-08-27
9.95 eur
 
2:50 PM
 
That damn hinge, lol
 
I’m 185cm (6 ft) and I fit comfortably into M size shirts, which I think is pretty wild
In Singapore it’ll be L or XL
 
Alright there Mr. Fit :P
 
Wait, are the X...L sizes just the same size but wider?
 
I'm not sure how the length differs but M would be too tight on me
 
2:57 PM
yeah 5'7" (170cm) and L lol
 
Hmm, maybe Uniqlo is just sized really big? In Singapore Uniqlo I buy XL, but here it’s M
 
I'm 6'2" and I can get away with a small but theyre just a little short
 
And in Singapore Muji it’s XL but here it’s L
 
sizing usually varies by region
I think
 
Mattress sizes also differ! An US Queen is closer to European King
 
2:59 PM
@PrivatePansy 2XL are usually a few inches longer as well as wider.
 
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Q: Why do people keep appearing in my village?

Nightmare09122Every night at the far right side of the base, a random 15ish people come out of a wall in my base. I don't know if it's a glitch or what, but it's really weird. I now have lots's of archers, and I'm wondering how I triggered it but I'd love to have this on other islands. Can someone tell me how ...

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Q: Is my job successful if I die after the objectives are complete?

king14nyrI completed a job, but decided to keep exploring the dungeon before returning to town. Unfortunately, I then died in that dungeon. I was not sure if the job was still considered completed and if I received the rewards. Is a job considered successfully completed if you die after the objectives a...

 
@ToxicFrog I didn't think that that was your point, but that was my point :) Generally speaking, any single player game on steam still requires you to have a steam account to play. There are exceptions, of course
 
Yes, and my point is that those exceptions should be, but aren't, marked in the storefront.
 
@Memor-X your original comment was about needing an account to play a single player game and that is what Steam does. If you have your account information saved and you don't have to manually input the information, you're still using the account information to play a single player game
@ToxicFrog drm-free isn't marketed as a selling point on steam, so I can see why they wouldn't
 
So can I, but my point stands.
 
3:14 PM
steam is, in addition to being a storefront, also a form of drm
 
Don't you have to have a steam account to buy anything?
 
@ToxicFrog oh definitely, it would be great for the consumer to know these things
 
Or even download or play?
 
@HalfEmpty buy, download - yes, play - not all games use steam as drm
there are some games, mainly indies, that don't use any drm and once downloaded through steam, you can just copypaste it to another computer with no steam installed and run it with no issues
but in general, yes, you need a steam account to play games on steam
 
Huh I didn't realize Satisfactory was being made by Coffee Stain Studios
 
3:29 PM
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Q: How do i disable mobs spawning from "Yarr Cute Mob Models - Remake"

user232263I have looked in the config and i have enabled the option to make them separate entities, however i also do not want them to spawn naturally in the world and only spawn using spawn eggs but there is no option to disable natural spawning in the config, is there any other separate mods i can use to...

 
I don't know how people can take 5 Hour Energy as directed. The taste is so awful, I can't fathom drinking half of a bottle at once.
I always take the smallest sips every 10 minutes or so.
Although, I also don't use them regularly. I only grabbed one this morning because I got like 3 hours of sleep last night.
 
@Dragonrage You manage to keep progressing?
 
3:48 PM
@Frank i finally got one of my planters looping. making slow progress, but i was super busy with work yesterday
 
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Q: How do Hero units scale with unit size in Total War: Three Kingdoms?

5AMLarge unit size in TW:3K has standard infantry units at 120. Extreme unit size has them at 240. How do the hero units scale with this increase? Do they double in health, damage, etc. from large to extreme?

 
i currently need more solution, so i will have to turn something off for a bit to allow my alkahest to build up
 
@Dragonrage Water is the quickest to start looping.
It doesn't need seeds.
 
4:03 PM
@Frank i dont have enough cryogen atm for it to loop. working on earth atm
 
Getting one going will allow you to upgrade the base elements, which will make the rest quicker.
So getting 1.2 ElemWhatever to convert to 1 Pure will start the cycle.
 
My issue right now is balancing blast and blaze
 
Mostly it's limited by the output of my base elements
Can't wait to upgrade those
 
@Wipqozn Soo... what kind of game is it?
 
4:07 PM
@SaintWacko Yep, getting one Pure resource of any element will start that.
 
I just realized that a lot of my favorite foods feature cilantro, I'd be so screwed if I had that cilantro soap gene.
 
yesterday, by Wipqozn
@fredley You wee
 
@Frank Ah, there we go, turned off the trimmer
Now I am very, very slowly producing PureEW
 
@SaintWacko Do you have the SoilWater machine going, too? The one in the bottom right corner.
 
@Frank The Garden?
 
user15026
4:13 PM
@Yuuki yep it ruins food.
 
Oh
Hm
 
@SaintWacko Yes.
 
No, I need a tiny bit more space. Gotta figure out what's using that
 
It takes a bit to get going, but managing it makes it a self-sustaining cycle.
And you can leave the trimmer and plucker on once you do.
 
@Ash I wish someone would discover something like those berries that turn sour flavors to sweet but with cilantro.
 
4:15 PM
Space has it's own self-sustaining cycle.
 
user15026
@Yuuki That would be so nice, I could eat so many more things.
 
user15026
Man my body is so confused about what time it is now.
 
Well, two of them, actually. But Spatial can feed into Space, etc., etc.
 
Wups, shit, now I don't have enough Cryogen
@Frank Did you mean the Garden or the Soil Enricher?
 
@SaintWacko Which one produces the soil, and is in the bottom right corner by those machines?
 
4:19 PM
Chinese names for food amuses me. There's a name for a certain flavor in Sichuan cuisine called 鱼香 (yüxiang) that translates literally to "fish flavor". Yüxiang dishes typically do not contain seafood and yüxiang sauces are not added to seafood.
 
@Frank They both produce the soil, the garden is above the machines and the enricher is below the machines
 
Enricher, then.
 
It also doesn't taste fishy. I have no idea where the name comes from.
 
It doesn't seem to be self-sustaining
It just crashed my PureEW storage
 
@SaintWacko Right away, it won't be.
But the soil it generates can be used to create more Plants, then turned into ElementalW, and you'll get more PureEW than you used to generate the soil.
Because it generates something like 250/300 soil for each Pure you feed it.
 
4:22 PM
Ahhhh, there it goes
Once it capped its soil output
 
Yep. Then it just becomes silly.
And now you have all the PureEW you'll ever need.
Eventually, getting them all going makes your original EssW machine obsolete.
And now you'll soon have enough PureEW to upgrade the base elemental.
 
user15026
@Yuuki what sort of things would have that flavour?
 
@Yuuki Baby delivery Simulator
 
One of my favorite names has to be 伤心凉粉 (shangxin lianfen) that translates literally to "heartbreak noodles".
@Ash It's a mix of pickled chilis, scallion, ginger, and garlic. And most dishes also include soy sauce and fermented broadbean paste.
 
@Wipqozn This looks cool
 
user15026
4:29 PM
@Yuuki it sounds like a tasty thing.
 
user15026
@Yuuki that's an interesting mental picture.
 
@Ash There's multiple stories for the name. Some people say it's called that because it's so spicy that you cry as if heartbroken while eating it. Other people say that the spiciness is such that it's eaten as a coping mechanism for relationship troubles (much like ice cream in the West).
 
user15026
Neat!
 
@Frank Now where I'm stuck is getting enough space to unlock the air seeds
That's going to take a long time at its current rate
 
@SaintWacko Focus on that for a bit.
Once you get Spatial high enough, it does a good job of sustaining Space.
I don't remember if you need the secondary loop going for that, where you're dealing with folded space.
 
4:39 PM
@Frank I haven't unlocked the machine on the left side of that loop yet, hopefully I don't need that one
 
I think just the first three are needed. Space, ???, and Spatial.
You'll need the other three later, but not for PureElementals
 
user15026
Hahaha becsuse I charged my Fitbit overnight it missed my sleep so it thinks I slept from 515 am to 738 am (which yes, 515 am is when I went to bed so it caught that properly) and then... Not at all. (I slept til about noon)
 
user15026
So it is very concerned about my sleep now.
 
@Wipqozn It's hard to tell what's really going on here
 
@HalfEmpty That's how you know it's a Kojima game.
 
4:48 PM
@Frank Ah, there we go. Finally found the recipe to turn off to allow spatial to take off
 
... is this where 'Norman Reedus and the funky fetus' came from
cause that looked like he plugged himself into a fetus
 
yeah
 
ohhhhhhhh
 
:baby: :thumbsup:
 
4:54 PM
yeah
 
didn't they do a gameplay stream yesterday but with most of the screen obscured
 
@Unionhawk IT was just this trailer
It finally unlocked an hour ago
 
ah
 
4:58 PM
question
is rent a like
real option in 2019
 
@Unionhawk Origin access is like a rent system, right?
As Discord Nitro
(And somewhat Humble Bundle trove)
 
user15026
@Unionhawk good question and now I am curious.
 
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