The Bridge

A grandfather clause (or grandfather policy) is a provision in which an old rule continues to apply to some existing situations while a new rule will apply to all future cases. Those exempt from the new rule are said to have grandfather rights or acquired rights, or to have been grandfathered in. Frequently, the exemption is limited; it may extend for a set time, or it may be lost under certain circumstances. For example, a "grandfathered power plant" might be exempt from new, more restrictive pollution laws, but the exception may be revoked and the new rules would apply if the plant were expanded...

GodEmperorDune

the term "grandfather clause" actually has a SUPER RACIST origin story, but no need to get into that here

Avery

@GodEmperorDune checks yup

cazc_941

oh nice

quartata

:/

cazc_941

yeah my dad and I still have the old free version of some remote desktop thing I got us set up on

@GodEmperorDune why even share this

although TIL

GodEmperorDune

12:20 AM

@cazc_941 it's in the article that @avery linked

Avery

do people really expect me to read the stuff I link? smh

(mostly sarcastic)

cazc_941

I don't think you need to worry about that

It's history

Yuuki

> Breaking News: Houston's Collective Anus Puckers During First Significant Rain Since Harvey

As a Houstonian, this is True Facts.

@cazc_941 Said everyone who was doomed to repeat history.

cazc_941

I would think knowing that kind of stuff would be a better way to avoid repeating it

@Yuuki also, what?

Lazers 2.0

12:52 AM

1

Q: Can Riven jump over skillshots with her 3rd Q?

Riven's 3rd Q launches her into the air briefly, allowing her to leap over thin walls and minions. Can Riven use her 3rd Q to leap over skillshots like Jinx's Super Mega Death Rocket, Lux's Final Spark, or Veigar's Event Horizon?

league-of-legends

cazc_941

anydesk

that's what it was called

was/is

Yuuki

1:29 AM

I have a car again!

Dragonrage

@uni, do mobs climb ladders in 1.12.1?

Unionhawk

Uh

user15026

@Yuuki huzzah!

ToxicFrog

1:44 AM

IRTA "do cars climb ladders" at first

Which seemed entirely plausible since Alex has of late been asking if {cars,boats,planes} have wheels or not

Yuuki

@Ash She's a Chevy Volt and he's the prettiest thing I've ever seen.

user15026

@Yuuki she is very pretty. Are you the type of human who names their pretty vehicles?

Yuuki

@Ash I have not yet driven her long enough to give him a name. So I am also alternating gender pronouns.

user15026

@ToxicFrog hahaha that is great

user15026

@Yuuki I wasbt sure if alternation or bad spelling

Lazers 2.0

1:49 AM

0

Q: Are multi attribute outfits garbage and only useful for recycling?

(This question is regarding survival mode.) As we know most of the outfits we find are multi attribute outfits, e.g. the legendary Minuteman Uniform that has S+2, P+2, I+2, A+2. I have always considered them, no matter if normal, rare or legendary, to be pretty garbage only good for recycling t...

fallout-shelter

MBraedley

@Yuuki LEVEL UP!

Man, you're making me want to go out and by a Volt

Yuuki

@MBraedley I don't know if Canada has Carmax, but you should check with them if you have one. I got mine for $18k and it only had 7k miles on it.

And I'm guessing the previous owner mostly used EV because the dash says lifetime mpg is 179 mpg.

Unionhawk

I mean strictly local transit is going to probably be mostly electric on a 40 mile range

It would be for me anyway

Yuuki

Yeah. Unfortunately until I find more permanent housing, I'll be using the gas.

Which still has 35 mpg so not bad at all.

Unionhawk

2:07 AM

That's roughly my car

Yuuki

Although the Volt uses premium gasoline instead of regular.

Unionhawk

Which isn't bad

@Yuuki ooo

Rip

Yuuki

So :| but hopefully I can find a way to charge soon.

Unionhawk

I think I get 38 average on regular

Yuuki

I know there's an EVgo station somewhere near me.

Unionhawk

2:08 AM

28/40, so 28 most of my commute

not bad

Reminds me car payment is this week

Yuuki

But EVgo works off a subscription model (hashtag topical for earlier today?).

Unionhawk

I hate that vw won't let me set up autopay since I'm technically not the primary lessor in order to get a better deal

But oh well it's a good car and a good deal

And the title is in my name (or my name and also vw credit idk) so that's a vast improvement over my previous situation

@Yuuki I mean, it'd depend and ultimately you'd have to math average monthly gas and such and at that point you're probably better off waiting for permanent housing

Although the waiting thing depends on being allowed to plug your car in

Lazers 2.0

-1

Q: Why is the Argent Commander worse for Priests?

In the HearthArena tier list, the Argent Commander (normally a pretty good arena card) is shown in red type, meaning that although it is good, it is worse than normal for the Priest class. Why is this?

hearthstone

Lazers 2.0

2:45 AM

-1

Q: How Long Does a Soft-ban Last?

I just recently got soft-banned since my friend is on vacation and I gave him my login to catch some regional exclusives. But, it thought I traveled from my house to Asia in 5 minutes since I was just online before I gave him the login. Now I can't catch any Pokemon and I was wondering how long t...

pokemon-go

user15026

13 km of walking, plus 45 min of an aquafit strength class makes for a tired me.

Private Pansy

3:06 AM

> You are invited: Enabling Digital Transformation with Microsoft Hybrid Cloud

Microsoft has hit peak buzzword density yet again

Yuuki

Of course Canadian hockey hooligans obey traffic laws.

> RUMOR - Netflix customer service rep says Netflix is "Locked and Loaded" for Switch, Awaiting Nintendo Approval

pls

pls 2 hav

So of the announced Switch partners, here are the ones that haven't developed or announced a game for Switch yet:

Although apparently Atlus has a Shin Megami Tensei in the works and THQ Nordic is making a game called Battlechasers.

Also, a phone + joycon grip.

Private Pansy

3:46 AM

@Yuuki Wait, the canceled out ones are the publishers that have announced, or have not announced?

Yuuki

@PrivatePansy Have announced.

Dragonrage

4:38 AM

@Ash sounds like a good workout. Cardio is great for you but I find it boring :(

GodEmperorDune

5:12 AM

@Yuuki grats!

@Ash you're getting so swole

Private Pansy

7:24 AM

→ 1 message moved to trash

\o/

\o

o/

Thanks Wikipedia, now I understand PKI perfectly!

Avery

wow that's quite terrible

@Yuuki but why

can they even connect to mobile devices

DanmakuGrazer

7:42 AM

@Avery Because Splatoon 2 won't let you voice chat any other way

Kevin van der Velden

Because anything switch won't let you voice chat any other way*

Because build in voice chat is way too complicated for nintendo

Avery

makes sense

DanmakuGrazer

Isn't Splatoon 2 the only game to let you use that app yet?

Kevin van der Velden

That I don't know, I do know it's the only way to have voice chat "on" the switch

DanmakuGrazer

The Wii, WiiU, DS, and 3DS all had voice chat in some games

But now the Switch can't do it

Kevin van der Velden

7:52 AM

@DanmakuGrazer third or first party games?

DanmakuGrazer

Both

Kevin van der Velden

Huh

badp

8:04 AM

Holy shit. I happened to catch the webs in a local patch of flowers while they were still wet

Those spiders have been REALLY hard at work

I never saw webs shimmering and beaded with water like that

Private Pansy

@DanmakuGrazer Really? I don't think Nintendo ever added voice chat to any of their games

DanmakuGrazer

Off the top of my mind, it was in 3-4 Pokémon games and Animal Crossing on Wii

It was definitely in Monster Hunter Tri, if you count third party games

Private Pansy

Wait, Pokemon had voice chat?

DanmakuGrazer

You could (can?) voice chat with friends

Nzall

gamefaqs.com/boards/696959-pokemon-x/67477914

Nzall

8:29 AM

Alex Mauer: The Court Date Approaches

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Kevin van der Velden

The internet is dead :(

Nzall

Summary, Alex Mauer still doesn't have a lawyer even though she was asked to get one, She will probably get owned in court, but it's unlikely that any of the smaller channels that got targeted will file a DMCA abuse claim because the costs wouldn't outweigh the benefits

Private Pansy

8:49 AM

Kevin van der Velden

Update:the internet has been murdered

badp

gg

RIP

Kevin van der Velden

Construction person pushed a big metal thing holding the fiber optical cable and they snapped

Arperum

I did a thing! I fixed a git issue through commandline!

badp

well done you

Arperum

8:58 AM

There was an issue of a commit that was not linked to any branch. And had dissappeared from the UI thing.

Avery

git cli is great

and you should feel great

badp

@Arperum that is... odd

or at least something that is hard to do accidentally

you have to git branch --orphan first or something

git checkout --orphan

also hard to do accidentally: empty commits

you can do it but some stuff gets upset

Avery

pro tip: git breaks

expect it

and be ready for it

If that doesn't fix it, git.txt contains the phone number of a friend of mine who understands git. Just wait through a few minutes of 'It's really pretty simple, just think of branches as...' and eventually you'll learn the commands that will fix everything.

badp

@Avery in a lot of cases you can back out safely

Avery

@badp yes

badp

9:03 AM

check out git reflog

(or git rebase --abort or git merge --abort or...)

Avery

If you use Steam Inventory Helper, all your internet activity is being spied on

6

Arperum

@badp I don't know, how it was originally created, but it was on some weird head that suddenly didn't exist anymore? I was able to merge it into the correct branch, so all is sorta fine. Currently working on getting everything working again.

@badp Yes, I did use that to figure out what happened.

fuck. the edmx file got corrupted somehow. this is gonna be fun.

Avery

9:19 AM

(can someone star or pin that)

7

DanmakuGrazer

@Avery Come on, don't do that

I get the intent, but still

Avery

I mean I don't care about stars, I simply want to provide visibility to that because for obvious reasons I don't want bridgers or the people around bridgers to be spied on

StrixVaria

9:42 AM

So you say, but we all know once the time limit is reached whoever has amassed the most stars is safe and everyone else is going to have to participate in Jumanji in round two.

4

cazc_941

Who does have the most stars

JUMANJI: WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE - Official Trailer (HD)

►

The first Jumanji was scary as fuck, this just looks silly

StrixVaria

@cazc_941 The only problem I have with this movie is that it's branded as Jumanji.

cazc_941

Right?

fredley

@cazc_941 I think age might be a factor here.

StrixVaria

It actually looks pretty funny IMO, but it has no business being called Jumanji.

Just make up a new IP.

cazc_941

9:47 AM

Yeah

fredley

Jumanji 1 was probably silly too

cazc_941

It was scary

StrixVaria

Yeah if you watch it again now, it's not really scary.

cazc_941

Well

fredley

@StrixVaria Quite tempted tbh

cazc_941

9:48 AM

I don't want turn into a monkey

StrixVaria

It's still a pretty good movie even now, and you'll probably get more of the jokes than when you were a kid.

fredley

@cazc_941 TOO LATE hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

cazc_941

I should watch it again

Zathura was the same concept and was actually pretty good or at least I remember it being okay

But remember when Jumanji starts with the drums and shit as they're digging it up

Ouf

Nzall

I watched the 90s (?) Jumanji cartoon, the one with the 2 children and the guy who has been stuck inside the game for decades

cazc_941

Cartoon?

StrixVaria

9:50 AM

Yeah, what, there's a cartoon?

Nzall

Jumanji (TV series)

Jumanji is an American animated television series that was inspired by the movie based on the short story of the same name. The series ran for three seasons from 1996 to 1999. In 1996, it was carried by the UPN Kids block on UPN, but later seasons were syndicated by BKN. The series was also shown by CITV in the United Kingdom, TRTÉ in the Republic of Ireland and on Russian RTR channel. It has aired in Pakistan on Cartoon Network in English and currently airs on Filmax in Urdu and on Aruj TV in Pushto. Jumanji was produced by Adelaide Productions and was the first show made by that company, with...

cazc_941

Wat

Nzall

Jumanji Animated T.V Show Opening Theme

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That's the opening

cazc_941

Creepy ass thumbnail my dude

Seriously though is there a way to know who did have the most stars

Nzall

yeah, it's an older animation, the style was pretty weird, with elongated heads

cazc_941

9:54 AM

Seriously though is there a way to know who does have the most stars

I bet I know who it is but it would be fun to find out

Nzall

chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/info/35/the-bridge/?tab=stars

start counting

StrixVaria

Dec 16 '11 at 23:50, by balpha

I WANT CHAT HATS! WHO IS THE INCAPABLE IDIOT WHOSE FAULT IT IS THAT I DON'T HAVE HATS IN CHAT? THEY SHOULD BE FIRED!!!!!one

The inspiration for a real feature.

It might be in the data tool thing.

I'm not about to sit down and write a query though.

Avery

...

old bridge was fun

cazc_941

@Avery balpha was never a regular chatter here

Avery

I'm going through transcript

cazc_941

10:00 AM

But yeah I guess, we've had a lot of people leave over the years

Ullallulloo, that bird guy, mana, powerlord (even though he was obnoxious), agent 76

86?

Avery

86

cazc_941

Haha I was complaining about stars in that bit of the transcript

Of course I was

Wow, that was six years ago... Jeez

@Avery back in the days before Trump was King and people could say whatever they wanted

Avery

ehhhhhhhh

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

i mean sure I see some more open discussions but it doesn't look like "people could say whatever they wanted" was there at that point

and that's fine.

cazc_941

@Avery he was threatening to suspended me over what looks like repeated flagging of the word 'jew' from context

Which now that I read it again was just an interesting discussion on the usage of the term

People complain in here if you say a lot of shit now. No way that discussion would happen today

As someone who has been here for like seven or eight years, I can confirm that the atmosphere in the room has changed over time

Avery

I wonder how hats will fit with my new avatar

cazc_941

10:12 AM

The only thing I used to get in trouble for was talking about tits

Which, fair enough lol

God I talk like a little kid back this far in the transcript

No wonder mana never talks to me any more

StrixVaria

Final Fantasy 9 releasing on PS4 today

Nzall

If you want to watch that Jumanji Cartoon, you can do so on iTunes or Hulu

StrixVaria

10:28 AM

Avery

mimikyu is weirdly cute.

Nzall

@StrixVaria The left obviously, because those bottom 2 black things are buttons, not eyes

StrixVaria

@Nzall I'm not so sure.

I'm pretty sure they're eyes and he just made a dilapidated pikachu hat and drew the face on in crayon.

fredley

@Nzall Uh the right one

The top is a pikachu face scrawled on the cover, the bottom is holes for the eyes

Nzall

I see

fredley

10:40 AM

Also this really screwed me up for a while.

cazc_941

What's a mimikyu

2

fredley

@StrixVaria My final answer is neither. Dittos face would render underneath the mimikyu pikachu hat, so the end result would be identical

Avery

Mimikyu's Song [eng subbed]

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Wipqozn

@fredley I miss the days I used Dvorak

Cc @GodEmperorDune since that's pretty hipster as well

fredley

@Wipqozn I was watting at it for a good 20 seconds

@Wipqozn I tried to learn dvorak a long time ago. Didn't seem worth it

Avery

10:46 AM

@Wipqozn that's bowtie-spinning level of hipster right there

Wipqozn

@fredley fun fact: the best part of Dvorak is the confusion it causes people when they try to use your keyboard

fredley

@Avery Pfff, bowtie spinning isn't hipster at all

@Wipqozn My main issue was not typing, which I got the hang of relatively quickly, but shortcuts.

Avery

@Wipqozn proof that you're the worst

fredley

As a heavy Photoshop user at the time, that really fucked me up

cazc_941

@Avery this thumbnail doesn't help

Avery

10:47 AM

@cazc_941 watch the video

cazc_941

I'm at work on mobile

fredley

bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Mimikyu_(Pok%C3%A9mon)

cazc_941

6:00 start today

fredley

Eyeholes confirmed

cazc_941

Wake and bake

Literally baking

fredley

10:49 AM

The great @Gnomeslice Bake Off?

3

Wipqozn

@fredley yeah that's the main reason I stopped

Nzall

How about this? someone go catch a mimikyu, then fight a Ditto.

fredley

Maybe it's ok if you have a printed dvorak layout, but going from being able to just about touch type to doing ctrl-a, ctrl-c, ctrl-v was too big a jump

DanmakuGrazer

@Nzall The "Ditto can't fully copy other Pokémon" thing has never been in the games

Nzall

ah, okay

Wipqozn

10:52 AM

@fredley shortcuts are optimized for qwerty, so even with it printed doesn't help. It still feels a bit awkward.

fredley

What about if ditto transforms into a mimikyu that's mimicking a ditto?

Nzall

I don't think Mimikyu works that way

fredley

I mean, Mimikyu could choose to mimic other pokemen

DanmakuGrazer

Nzall

so what generation is Mimikyu from? the SM generation?

DanmakuGrazer

11:03 AM

Yes

Lazers 2.0

11:19 AM

-2

Q: Grassminevn.com cho vo sv do

hihi cho minh vo lái sv kia đi cam on ban nhieu lam at minh ten Hryki_VN thank ban nhieu lam hihi

minecraft minecraft-commands starcraft-2 secret-world-legends

StrixVaria

@Lazers2.0 Does anyone know Vietnamese to say if this is spam or a legit question in the wrong language?

cazc_941

To google!

StrixVaria

Google didn't do great with that one.

cazc_941

Look at all those tags

@StrixVaria hue. What'd you get

StrixVaria

Some nonsense.

cazc_941

11:22 AM

> hihi for the other driver on the other hand on the board at the same time Hockey_VN thank you much hihi

Oh I see

@StrixVaria do English SE sites actually have a rule about it?

I know there have been sites made for existing network topics but in another language

StrixVaria

@cazc_941 Yes, stuff on this site has to be in English.

Kevin van der Velden

INTERNET HAS BEEN RESURRECTED

Wipqozn

@StrixVaria seems like it's advertising a minecraft server, so probably spam

Kevin van der Velden

Yeah, it's certainly about a minecraft server

Wipqozn

@KevinvanderVelden Your face is about a minecraft server

OH WHAAAT

cazc_941

11:30 AM

Hey, NEO Scavenger has a mobile edition now

Bet I can't last longer than a few days in that one too

Nzall

So, about TIF

cazc_941

kotaku.com/…

Nzall

is the thing we discussed yesterday about allowing limited discussion in this chatroom of news and moving the discussion over to TIF once it gets beyond a certain depth decided as policy? Or should I make a meta about it to see if it would be useful?

StrixVaria

I wasn't here for that discussion, so if there's a change you want to make it's probably best to outline the whole idea in meta so everyone can see at their leisure.