The Bridge

Unionhawk

12:00 AM

Ooo, FC Cincinnati is playing Valencia CF in the football

GodEmperorDune

@murgatroid99 nice

Unionhawk

@GodEmperorDune "nice"

GodEmperorDune

in other news, LPMF is alive and i am jealous of his colorful drinks

Fluttershy

12:57 AM

What should I stream? PUBG, or Gigantic?

Unionhawk

@TimStone Lmao, official response from my friend who's on Jambo staff:

> ...

And my other friend at Jambo with an Ai Weiwei

Memor-X

every time i see PUBG typed i keep reading it as PUGS

ToxicFrog

I read it as PUTPBAA

murgatroid99

It bothers me when people blame floating point behaviors defined in the IEEE specification of floating point numbers on "idiosyncrasies of JavaScript"

GodEmperorDune

@Memor-X i'd play "that" game

murgatroid99

1:09 AM

It unreasonably justifies the "JavaScript is a shitty language" meme

GodEmperorDune

@murgatroid99 so IEEE is a shitty spec for floating point numbers?

Avery

IEEE is a "good" spec.

Fluttershy

@ToxicFrog What does that even mean? lol

murgatroid99

@GodEmperorDune IEEE is a good spec for floating point numbers. It just takes the blame for the fact that computers with finite memory can't perfectly represent all operations on real numbers

quartata

I don't think anyone blames IEEE (I hope) but just that JS has no ints or fixed point numbers

At least not in an easy way

You would get the same results in any other language if you used nothing but floats

murgatroid99

1:12 AM

But integer operations work fine unless you're working with numbers larger than 2^54

You usually only see the weirdness if you're using numbers that would be floating point numbers in any language

Memor-X

@Fluttershy i was going to ask that myself

quartata

Comparisons though

GodEmperorDune

@quartata yeah, the "check if the absolute value between them is less than thing" instead of equals is unintuitive

murgatroid99

@GodEmperorDune Doing that is not correct in general

It depends on what your goal is

Anyone who claims that "equality doesn't work" for floating point numbers is simply wrong

GodEmperorDune

@murgatroid99 comparing float values in javascript unit tests

murgatroid99

1:21 AM

But if you explicitly want to know "are my numbers very close in value", then yes, checking whether their difference is very small is correct

@GodEmperorDune Comparing could mean a wide variety of things

GodEmperorDune

@murgatroid99 asserting that these floats are very close in "value"

Dragonrage

@Wipqozn only 21? we were slacking

murgatroid99

@GodEmperorDune OK, then yes, that's how numbers work. By definition, two numbers are "close" if their difference is small

GodEmperorDune

@murgatroid99 yes, but i can skip all that with ints

and just ==

murgatroid99

Those are different operations, checking for different things

== is not "close", it's "equal"

"I have to write different code to do different comparisons" is not a valid complaint about floating point numbers

quartata

1:24 AM

Yeah but what if I don't actually need floating point

murgatroid99

@quartata Then don't use fractions

quartata

To be fair it's not like 2 == 2 won't work

Private Pansy

I remember reading a proposal for replacing IEEE 754 with I think a decimal compatible representation (ie. something that won't give you 0.3000000004)

Can't remember how serious it was

quartata

But after a long operation you can end up with a mantissa even if the result should be an int

Dragonrage

@quartata 2 = 2 is better though

murgatroid99

1:25 AM

@quartata That's because you're making incorrect assumptions about the mathematical properties of floating point numbers

And if you do only addition, subtraction, and multiplication using integer values with intermediate results within safe integer bounds, you should get an integer as a result

quartata

You left out division which is precisely the problem

murgatroid99

If you are getting values that are close to integers, when you should get actual integers, then your code is wrong. And if you're papering over it with tests that only check that the value is approximately correct, then the test is wrong too

@quartata It's only a problem because you want to pretend that your computer has infinite memory and can do arbitrary-precision real number mathematics. Programmers have to live in the real world, with real constraints

MBraedley

I made some serious progress in Obduction tonight. I think I'm now ahead of my coworker (who isn't playing in VR, so he had easier controls than what I started with).

quartata

quite the opposite. If I only need something to be an int I should be able to just use it like an int and save me and the computer the effort and memory

murgatroid99

@quartata If you only need integers, you shouldn't be doing division that results in non-integer values

And a 32-bit integer vs a 64-bit double isn't significant memory savings

quartata

1:31 AM

I know but it's enough to be the opposite of what you're saying. Making everything a float is the kind of abstraction that is "pretending"

murgatroid99

@quartata I don't know what you mean

quartata

floor(x / 2) is pretty common btw

At least for me

murgatroid99

And that should work fine with floating point numbers

quartata

Nah got to do something like (x / 2) | 0.

And that's probably not well defined either, let me look it up

murgatroid99

You can definitely do Math.floor(x/2) in JavaScript

quartata

1:34 AM

that should return another float as opposed to truncating

(int) x / 2 is more what I meant semantically

murgatroid99

It's the same value

And yes, | 0 is well defined. It converts the number to a 32 bit integer to operate on it

quartata

These are just simple examples though. Any complicated math with just floating point is going to introduce just enough error to screw up a comparison

Epsilon is tiny on most systems which is a blessing and a curse

Dragonrage

@badp which language did you use to take the average of the names of bridgers?

GodEmperorDune

A conversation I witnessed in line at Starbucks today: Guy: "Haha so...can I get your number?" Girl: *texting* "I don't have a phone."

Tweeted by herees_ronnie on July 20, 2017 at 4:15 PM

murgatroid99

@quartata Are we still talking about just integers?

quartata

1:36 AM

There are no integers.

murgatroid99

An integer is a mathematical abstraction

2 is an integer no matter the underlying abstraction

quartata

It's not the kind I care about though.

I care about machine words.

murgatroid99

Why?

Wipqozn

@GodEmperorDune I assume it's just her standard turning the guy down phrase, but it's so obviously a lie I don't get why you wouldn't just say "no"

quartata

Because the last time I had to do anything serious in JS I had to roll faux fixed point numbers and use abs

GodEmperorDune

1:38 AM

@Wipqozn men are apparently ridiculous at taking the hint

murgatroid99

@quartata Maybe you were just doing it wrong

quartata

I was doing some geohashing thing which calls for precise decimal manipulation to be fair

Wipqozn

@GodEmperorDune Sure, but normally if you're not just going to say "uh, no thanks" or whatever, it's because you're trying to avoid an awkward moment. This is so obviously just a "I have no interest in you" I don't get why you wouldn't just say that

quartata

But I couldn't help but shake the feeling I would have been done a hell of a lot faster in a language where numbers have well defined types and well defined storage

Wipqozn

I mean then again I'm also not an ass, so if someone turns me down I'm just like 'ALRIGHTY THEN' and exit the conversation

quartata

1:40 AM

Perl can be like this too. It has three different ways of storing numbers

Wipqozn

So it might not be that easy with normally

quartata

Strings ints and doubles

But it's a little more clever with switching them and if you start with an int it usually stays as one

murgatroid99

So, the real problem here isn't that JS doesn't have machine word integers, but that it doesn't have arbitrary precision fixed point numbers

quartata

No all the issues are connected

I would have used machine word integers to store my fixed point numbers but then I had comparison issues

Because they're floats

murgatroid99

If you work only with mathematical integers, and you only do addition, subtraction, multiplication, and floor division, and you stay within the bounds of safe integers, you will get exactly the same results as if you worked with machine word integers

quartata

1:42 AM

It's all the same problem just a particularly annoying case where I ran into it in multiple ways

Well it didn't so I don't know what to say. I'd look for the code but eh. The bottom line is that there will always be a level of error in floating point no matter how hard you try to protect your users (programmers not end users) from it

murgatroid99

It's not error. Floating point operations are all well defined

@quartata If you can give me a single test case with floating point numbers in which all of the intervening operations are on integers that results in an incorrect answer or comparison, I'll take back everything I said.

*32 bit integers

BlueBarren

@Ash probably but I also don't understand how to read it

murgatroid99

2:12 AM

Actually, I'm so confident in what I just said that I would send $1000 to anyone who could prove me wrong (note: it can't involve integer overflow, because obviously that wouldn't work)

murgatroid99

2:23 AM

Also, in C at least, integer division that results in a negative number rounds towards 0, which is a different operation from floor division. Python, by contrast does actually do floor division for integer division

user15026

2:49 AM

@Wipqozn you are very rare then.

quartata

Well I had 75628617 * 423 * 281555 / 9 but that's not 32 bit integers

In my code it looks like the problem was that there was floating point error from Math.random

even though I was using it to generate integers obviously

murgatroid99

The failure there is that the product of the first three numbers is just above the maximum safe integer

I was slightly wrong before. I said that the maximum safe integer is 2^54, but actually the safe integer range spans 54 bits of integers, so the maximum safe integer is 2^53-1

user15026

Him: So, you're a romance writer? How do you do your research, heh heh. Me: My co-writer buried a giant pig in the woods. Like a body drop.

Tweeted by mostlybree on July 25, 2017 at 3:03 AM

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murgatroid99

That operation gives the correct answer if you do 75628617 * 423 * (281555 / 9)

Yuuki

3:26 AM

> 'Don't get shot by police' is goal of new advice in Arizona driver's manual

:/

Trent Hawkins

Street signs warning of "easily startled" police have been posted around Minneapolis http://cnn.it/2urvSEi https://t.co/ggL5hW9nJM

Tweeted by CNN on July 25, 2017 at 12:16 AM

Yuuki

> Bolding said he wanted to make sure drivers knew what to expect, and what rights they have. But he also cautioned against motorists getting carried away in demanding those rights, at least while they’re stopped at the side of the road.
> “The stop may not be the best point in time to have that protest,” Bolding said.

Know your rights, also know that you shouldn't tell police that you know your rights.

Or you might get shot.

SaintWacko

@Yuuki Pretty much

Unionhawk

3:42 AM

Spla2n is fun

The Mattbat999

@Yuuki, with the state the USA is, with such a hateful attitude towards authority commonplace, police can never be to careful nowadays.

user15026

@Unionhawk is it one of those games that you can have fun playing solo or is it only good with other people?

GodEmperorDune

@TheMattbat999 it must be so tough for those cops that have been trained at taxpayer expense to stay calm in stressful situations

So tough that the person having their day ruined needs to maintain their composure to not get killed

Or hell, even get killed after following all the proper rules and procedures

As a cishet white man I can scream at the police and most likely walk away from it

A person of color does not have that same privilege

@Wipqozn the issue is that in advance, the person doesn't know how the man will take rejection. Some take it awfully. Like "you won't give me your number? I'll follow you home instead"

user15026

@GodEmperorDune <3 thank you for saying the things better than I was managing to (there was more keyboard smashing)

user15026

3:57 AM

@GodEmperorDune yep. So sometimes that sort of approach is easier.

Unionhawk

@Ash I'm having a decent time alone so meh

GodEmperorDune

Anyway, my standard disclaimer applies: I am not anti-police, I have friends who are cops, but there are serious systemic problems with how we do law enforcement here

Most cops are trying to make their community safer and that is a good thing

The Mattbat999

In my opinion, the root of the problem is not color, it's hate. If I was a gambler I'd bet good money that if you somehow took skin color out of the situation, there would still be some sort of hate between groups as it is now. The reason for such hate is that simply, as Jesus had put it, (paraphrasing) "The love of many would wax cold in the last days". All of the thing Revelations predicted for the end of days has happened!

GodEmperorDune

But the evidence of all these bad interactions means that things need to change

Unionhawk

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha

Ha

user15026

4:02 AM

@Unionhawk good to know! I mean I lack anything to play it on, but I have been vaguely interested.

user15026

@TheMattbat999 if you squint a little and stretch the metaphor, maybe

Unionhawk

@Ash do note there is no single system multiplayer. This seems like a poor decision on Nintendo's part

GodEmperorDune

@TheMattbat999 I don't care if cops go home and hate all they want. You can think how you like, you have freedom of speech, etc. but when you are a public official representing the community, you cannot let your personal views interfere with your job

Unionhawk

There is local multiplayer if you have more than one switch.

user15026

@Unionhawk agreed. Couch multiplayer is awesome.

Unionhawk

4:03 AM

Which like what

The Mattbat999

And until Jesus comes back, people who don't accept him will simply sit sin and end up in hell.

GodEmperorDune

Especially when it's not "I yelled at someone instead of being calm", it's that people are being killed

user15026

@TheMattbat999 "if you took skin colour out" I hate this argument. It is a stupid argument. We can't. We can't separate it and even if we could that doesn't mean that what is currently happening isn't happening and that people aren't literally being murdered based on skin colour.

user15026

@TheMattbat999 okay, I'm all for believing in a thing. Heck, I likely share some of your beliefs. But...this isn't really the spot for this.

GodEmperorDune

@TheMattbat999 religious beliefs are entirely orthogonal to the discussion at hand

user15026

4:05 AM

@Unionhawk so if you brought your switch to my house and I had one then we could play but not if I just had my switch and you didn't have one, we have to have the both in the same house?

user15026

@GodEmperorDune orthogonal! That's the word I wanted.

Unionhawk

Yes

GodEmperorDune

If your religion leads you to do good things, great! If not, it's not something inherent to the religion

Unionhawk

Idk

user15026

@Unionhawk what why Nintendo why

The Mattbat999

4:06 AM

I never said you could take skin color out of the situation, my point is that hate is the root of the problem.

Unionhawk

...

Wh

Bu

GodEmperorDune

@TheMattbat999 I dunno if its hate per se, people do things for all kinds of unconscious reasons

Unionhawk

Ok yeah checks out with the transcript

user15026

@Unionhawk what does?

user15026

Alright, I am out of educational spoons so I am going to read my Resistance/protest romances and eat my m&ms

GodEmperorDune

4:08 AM

And I don't think police officers wake up in the morning planning to hurt/kill people that day

It's more that the system incentivizes bad interactions

user15026

@GodEmperorDune I hope not.

GodEmperorDune

And people get upset, the police get upset, then something snaps and we have a tragedy

murgatroid99

@TheMattbat999 Even if that's true, in some sense, it's not the kind of answer that helps lead to a solution. How do you get rid of hate? The best answer we have now is to try to address bigotry, both personal and institutional.

GodEmperorDune

Personally I think we could remove a lot of the societal stress by teaching kids how to emotionally regulate from an early age

Lazers 2.0

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Q: Is there anyway to use mods in Minecraft demo version?

How can I use mods in Minecraft demo version? Can NTBExplorer do what I am talking about? Before that when I didn't knew that mods don't run in demo version , I wasted a lot of time to use mods but nothing useful

murgatroid99

4:11 AM

@GodEmperorDune The Vulcan solution

The Mattbat999

No, but human nature (subconscious, sin nature, etc.) will usally do wrong God. Also, Jesus has the only working and laating solution, but it is human nature to give up pride, therefore rejecting him.

GodEmperorDune

@murgatroid99 I'm not suggesting anti-emotion, but like periodic little fires that use up the fuel so that if a big fire happens it is not as overwhelming

murgatroid99

@GodEmperorDune I think it's more than just emotions here. Prejudice means that you have different assumptions about people, and different expectations about how they act. Which means that you react differently.

The Mattbat999

But how will you completely rid of emotions? People don't have a little on/off switch for them.

Memor-X

@GodEmperorDune Vulcans aren't devoid of emotions but rather control them

Unionhawk

4:14 AM

@TheMattbat999 I assure you, this technology can be developed

murgatroid99

I'm pretty sure you'd find, for example, that the police involved in these kinds of incidents would be more likely to think that a black person has a deadly weapon than that a white person has one, and more likely to think that a black person is drawing a deadly weapon than that a white person is

GodEmperorDune

@murgatroid99 of course it won't remove bias, but having enough emotional awareness to be like "I'm getting triggered by something, I need to step back or descalate rather than charge ahead"

Unionhawk

It practically already exists except Brains Are Complicated

GodEmperorDune

@Memor-X there was that voyager ep where the Vulcan was going made because he had his once a decade emotional period thing

The Mattbat999

But willpower won't simply suffice. You'll slip at some point

GodEmperorDune

4:16 AM

@murgatroid99 yes, so giving police the training to realize this would help a lot

murgatroid99

@GodEmperorDune My point is that some of them may believe that they acted rationally/reasonably, based on incorrect assumptions that come from deep seated prejudice

Memor-X

@GodEmperorDune the Pon farr i think your referring to and that's like their mating season

GodEmperorDune

@Memor-X ah, I thought it was a side effect of repressing for so long

murgatroid99

And even if you train someone to recognize and correct for unconscious biases, that may not be enough to stop them from believing them and acting on them in the heat of the moment

Trent Hawkins

@GodEmperorDune The Pon Farr? That's more a biological mating imperative that can erode their emotional control/repression if not 'taken care of' for too long.

The Mattbat999

4:18 AM

Yeah, I remember th at episode of the old Stae Trek where Spock got all emotional to remind him to go get married.

Memor-X

if i recall who you're talking about it Vorik kinda infected B'Elanna Torres with it aswell and it didn't go well with her Klingon instincts and in the end they ended up beat the shit out of one another

Unionhawk

Meanwhile the ACLU

I'm in hysterics https://t.co/6M2BR2J37w

Tweeted by shermanelis on July 24, 2017 at 11:05 PM

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GodEmperorDune

@Unionhawk hue

@murgatroid99 ok, so how do you prevent or reduce that behavior?

Memor-X

Tuvok also went through it but he was able subdue it by using the Holodeck

as per The Doctor's advice

GodEmperorDune

@Memor-X TUVOK! That's the name I was forgetting

user15026

4:21 AM

@Unionhawk I love this.

murgatroid99

@GodEmperorDune My first step would be to have police have more interaction with their communities in non-confrontational settings. I think that encouraging them to empathize with the people would be the best way to correct for prejudice.

GodEmperorDune

@murgatroid99 like the "guardian" vs "anti crime warrior" mentality shift? I like that

Also this would help

i got 99 problems and money could solve at least 73 of them

Tweeted by pakalupapito on July 23, 2017 at 10:31 AM

Unionhawk

@TimStone incidentally, this probably was against the bsa policy on political participation beginning whenever he started making it political

Likely the beginning

Idk

Too late now

Now bsa looks like they endorse bcra

Congrats

GodEmperorDune

What? Trump make something political even though it's against the apolitical tradition? Well I never

user15026

@GodEmperorDune dat me

Unionhawk

4:27 AM

@GodEmperorDune He also apparently said something about all celebrating Christmas which is also not even remotely the bsa policy (any higher power is sufficient)

Tim Stone

@Unionhawk Parents are going off on their Facebook page

Unionhawk

Best case is they release something about how they usually invite presidents to Jambo but they don't usually make it a Donald Trump rally and they somehow didn't see that coming

Which like

How did you idiots at National not see that coming

Tim Stone

In nicer news check out this awesome Aqua Girl wheelchair costume my long-time internet acquiantence and fellow-Tim helped make

6

Here's a video of her in action

GodEmperorDune

@TimStone that is awesome

user15026

@TimStone oh I love this so much. It's so magical and great and yes good more of this in the world please

Tim Stone

4:40 AM

Yes, it is win :D

Unionhawk

lol united

Not sure how you managed to do that

GodEmperorDune

Based on the scouts' behavior at the jamboree today, I rescind my apology & reaffirm that boys DO in fact go to Jupiter to get more stupider

Tweeted by morninggloria on July 25, 2017 at 12:02 AM

Cc @uni

Unionhawk

@GodEmperorDune both of the people I know who went to Jambo we're displeased with the events that occurred

Tim Stone

@Unionhawk It was hilarious seeing this on Twitter this morning

But I still don't get what policy United misunderstood

GodEmperorDune

@Unionhawk i'm sure they are

Unionhawk

4:47 AM

actual image from Jambo

GodEmperorDune

@Unionhawk nice

Tim Stone

Unionhawk

I'm sure Scouts For Equality will have strongly worded things to say tomorrow

Tim Stone

Oh I think a tab might be leaking memory

GodEmperorDune

@TimStone sorry, i borrowed your machine to download some ram

Tim Stone

4:50 AM

I really need 64GB :(

Dragonrage

@TimStone i only got 16, can i borrow some of that?

GodEmperorDune

@TimStone then you should've let the download complete

Tim Stone

Lesson learned

Also damnit SourceTree stop spawning and then suspending and abandoning git processes

Newly Opened Proposals for Entertainment

1

Job Descriptions

Proposed Q&A site for HR people or Hiring Manager looking for the best way to describe a position and Employees looking to understand a job description better.

Currently in definition.

GodEmperorDune

@TimStone is there like a "repo history" view, like that shows repos you've closed?

Tim Stone

4:55 AM

I suppose closing tabs would be more cost-effective than building a whole new computer, but that would require me to finish something, hmm. Dilemma

GodEmperorDune

i have a bunch of tabs for repos i never use

but i don't want to close them because i'll forget where they are

user15026

@Unionhawk what happened?

Tim Stone

@GodEmperorDune Uhh there's a bookmark feature that used to be good but now is terrible

GodEmperorDune

@Ash trump spoke

Tim Stone

I think this particular case might be happening when the computer goes to sleep

GodEmperorDune

4:57 AM

@TimStone yeah i used that in the 1.0, they removed it or hid it in 2.0

Tim Stone

Yessss, it is the worst

GodEmperorDune

@TimStone are you accidentally running an incremental in one of the tabs?

user15026

@GodEmperorDune Ew

Tim Stone

Cannot confirm or deny

GodEmperorDune

@Ash and he got them riled up to be pro terrible things

@TimStone "accidentally"

Tim Stone

4:58 AM

I did mistakenly think that version 2.0 was an Electron-ish app the other day and got schooled by a SourceTree developer

But that just means they managed to make a .NET app that performs horribly on Windows so idk

GodEmperorDune

@TimStone the sad thing is its still much better than the other git guis i've tried

Tim Stone

It is pretty good! It just is also so unstable now

My issue the other day was apparently caused by a dangling reference to a repo on an inaccessible share drive, where instead of just giving up the application hung forever every time I tried to use it (not with that repo at all, of course)

GodEmperorDune

@TimStone of course

my only other complaint is that lastpass has an option for "copy secret key to clipboard" instead of "copy cert passphrase to clipboard" which doesn't make sense IMO

but it's quick to fire up the putty agent

and that's not really a sourcetree issue

Tim Stone

Yeah, since they kind of crippled the bookmarks feature I guess it's less relevant but I really wanted to set the author info separately by which folder I stuck things in |:

i.e. so when I create work repos they use my work email and when I create other repos they use my private email, without me having to pick one or the other and then remember to change the per-repo settings for the other type each time

I guess the real solution is again to stop starting so many new projects but shhhhhhhhhh

Lazers 2.0

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Q: Modify core files on FIFA

is there a way to modify FIFA core files to change or fix things such as the rules and some in-game stuff? For example, up to FIFA 7 the adboards shown were the ones from the home team but from FIFA 8 and on, its the same adboards for all matches which totally defeats the purpose of each team hav...

fifa-10

GodEmperorDune

5:12 AM

@TimStone what tech person doesn't have hundreds of started but unfinished projects?

user15026

@GodEmperorDune sigh

GodEmperorDune

Luckily I keep my work and home stuff separate

Tim Stone

5:28 AM

woo

Avery

MSPaint is being removed, but is being moved to store

Also um, some rpo nitpickery, because it was on my TL: 1 2 3 4

Lazers 2.0

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Q: In Dying Light, what do the tiny white bouncing arrows indicate in the mini-map?

Every so often, I see tiny white arrows in the mini-map that bounce up and down a little. I'm almost done with the game and never did figure out what they represent. At first I thought they might indicate a horde, because they usually show up in a group of four or five arrows, but that doesn't ...

dying-light

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Q: Why is Battlefield Bad Company 2 multiplayer not working on wifi?

I am trying to play BFBC2 online on my college wifi but it lags too much. Ping is very high. The download speed of wifi easily touches 3-4 MBps even than ping is too high. Back home I had a dongle(TATA docomo) which gave about 100 KBps speed but multiplayer worked flawlessly. I dont understand wh...

bad-company-2

Avery

GodEmperorDune

1 hour ago, by Unionhawk

I'm in hysterics https://t.co/6M2BR2J37w

Tweeted by shermanelis on July 24, 2017 at 11:05 PM

its a "dupe" fam

Avery

checks where she stole it

math checks out

user15026

5:44 AM

Oooh West of Loathing has an actual release date now!

Avery

also erdo what are you doing we neither have the army-power or money to help saudi arabia

Avery

6:15 AM

also what happened with boy scouts

Trent Hawkins

@Avery Trump spoke(rambled) at their anual(?) gathering.

Avery

ah

Memor-X

@TrentHawkins more about him being the greatest president and how he's making america great again?

Avery

meh, never had good thoughts about bsa anyways

Oh dear. https://t.co/ODhx3TEuHU

Tweeted by SparkleOps on July 24, 2017 at 11:47 PM

Trent Hawkins

@Memor-X Probably. I've only seen/read snippets, but I mean, the 'man' in question only has about one or two variations of a spiel he repeats ad nauseam. ("I'm great, everyone else sucks. Everything sucks, and I'll fix it somehow, because I'm great.")

Avery

6:30 AM

also wtf [nsfw]

3

GodEmperorDune

6:47 AM

@Avery cc @fredley

Avery

I'd @ ronan but he's 16 so...

Lazers 2.0

7:16 AM

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Q: Is the amount of health I heal from a hacked pack related to Sombra's charge gain

Does it matter if I heal 1 health, or 250 health in relation to Sombra's ultimate charge rate? Would she receive the same amount of charge in both cases ?

overwatch

badp

7:31 AM

@Dragonrage Google Python string distance

Lazers 2.0

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Q: Are all legendary Pokemon the same CP?

So far, I haven't fought many legendary Pokemon but the ones I fought, all the Articunoes have been the same CP (37,603) and Lugias as well (42,753). So do legendary Pokemon as raid bosses the same CP?

pokemon-go

Lazers 2.0

8:32 AM

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Q: How can I teleport to an unnamed entity in Minecraft?

I am trying to find a blaze spawner in minecraft 1.12 using the /tp command, but i'm not sure if i have the correct syntax. So far I have tried: /tp <username> blaze /tp <username> minecraft:blaze /tp <username> entity:blaze But every time it will return: Entity '(the blaze part)' cannot be ...

minecraft minecraft-commands

fredley

9:09 AM

@Avery Christ almighty

Avery

Ikr

fredley

This is why we can't have nice things

Avery

Depends on your definition of nice thinga

GodEmperorDune

@Avery "nice"

fredley

Theresa May pornography is probably not considered 'nice' by anybody.

Private Pansy

9:14 AM

@Avery I'm confused... and strangely aroused

2

Avery

@fredley there's at least 4 of them

GodEmperorDune

@fredley the queen likes ABBA, who knows what else she likes

Avery

So there is interest

badp

@GodEmperorDune buy a Jesus subscription for as little as $1.99/wk

also available the Jesus Premium service, starting at $9.99/mo

T&C apply

Avery

@badp did you mean R6:19/wk?

fredley

9:17 AM

badp

@Avery I dunno if that is a valid tithe.

Avery

It is but 1 John 2:16 is more relevant to that… brexit thing

(Esv)

GodEmperorDune

today in nice things

Avery

@PrivatePansy um

badp

who gave @Avery a bible search engine

UNHAND THE BIBLE SEARCH ENGINE AT ONCE

Private Pansy

9:26 AM

Judas, I think

Avery

google

badp

U N H A N D

fredley

Fucked-up migrations hell worst hell

Database status: SELECT COUNT(*) AS rekt FROM INFORMATION_SCHEMA.TABLES

GodEmperorDune

> 0 rows affected

> should've used a real DB like SQLite

Or perhaps your data decided to brexit?

Ok I'm done now

3ventic

data preferred the EU data protection laws

Lazers 2.0

9:35 AM

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Q: How can I respawn at a specific location after dying?

Whenever I respawn, I will either spawn into my map, or outside. This happens everytime, even when I set the worldspawn to the correct location. Am I supposed to use the sort of contraption where you can play a title when you die, but instead use it to teleport when they are dead? I'll be ver...

minecraft

badp

@3ventic I warned you about the policies

they keep cascading ⤹💃💹

fredley

10:01 AM

Man, fuck everything

When your framework's built in test suite doesn't create all the databases it needs, then fails due to not having the right databases

This kills the CI

Solution: create a few more migrations for that database to remind the test suite that it exists

badp

10:19 AM

on the upside

you can have CI

Nzall

10:37 AM

@badp We WRITE CI software

We as in my company

ikanalm.com/index.php

badp

Well we do have some sort of CI thing but it only works so well and it's unmaintained

Nzall

That's the software we write

badp

Does it support multiple repositories

multiple independent repositories

Nzall

@badp yes. You can define multiple repositories and assign a repository to a project

badp

being deployed in several dozen different environments

@Nzall how do you handle the combinatorial explosion

Nzall

10:41 AM

@badp in what respect?

@badp Combinatorial explosion?

@badp You can have multiple machines that you can build and deploy on and to

badp

Each of several dozen kinds of machines gets its own set of multiple repositories each of which can be deployed independently

"kind" in the software sense

(this is a web server for our customer facing website, this is a web server for our internal website, this is a host that runs cron jobs for this subsystem, this is a database machine, etc.)

Nzall

@badp I think that's possible

badp

I mean, we do do it. It's called "deploying frequently"

but you can't do that for every single commit

Nzall

you can define each machine as a deploy environment, and then you can deploy using an ANT script to each environment from a central source control repository

you can have multiple source control repositories, and we support about half a dozen different sources, including Git and Subversion

deploy environments are linked to a level, so you can deploy to multiple machines at once

you can deploy manually or based on a schedule

so you can do something like "every day at 10 PM, check if Subversion has been updated and if so, run a build"

or if you have an urgent change you need to push, you can force a deploy

You can find trials of our product at ikanalm.com/download/viewcategory/3.html if you want to look into it further

Memor-X

grrrrr, Tokyo Tattoo Girls is available for pre-order but Shopify Checkout is down for maintenance

Nzall

10:59 AM

In a few weeks (probably late August), we should also have a demo environment sandbox ready for prospects so they can immediately dive into a real project.

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