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12:00 AM
it got an answer, but the asker still said something along the lines of "Everyone who put this on hold, [profanity], instead of putting a question on hold, why don't you [profanity] HELP OUT for once? [profanity]."
So...
Why even rant about not getting help, when you did get help
like uuh
I don't get people.
 
Some people are just angry
 
user15026
12:21 AM
I've long stopped trying to understand that kind of tihng
 
user15026
Starting to watch Enterprise. I'm only partway through the first ep but I like it so far
 
Hi Bridge, does YOUR water have enough hydrogen in it?
 
Heavy water perhaps?
although drinking too much of that in place of water will kill you
> infused with molecular hydrogen
ok that's just dumb then
people spend fortunes trying to get alkaline water
congratulations you've just made acidic water
 
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Q: GTA 5 Social Club Home Key

Harjot GillHow do you change the key used to open Social Club Login In Gta 5 PC Cracked example change key from home to f9

 
> cracked
 
user15026
12:30 AM
Wheee, tonight is a hammering things night.
 
user15026
or hug gunning.
 
user15026
maybe hug gun in one hand and mod hammer in another?
 
@Ash Hug gun hammer?
 
12:46 AM
 
The new Pacific Rim looks amazing.
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I wonder where that America Vs Japan Mech fight got to.
 
1:10 AM
I forgot about that
 
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Q: Why do some Blackbox challenges have two outlines?

Steven VascellaroOn the home screen of Blackbox, most of the challenge boxes have a single outline around them. However, there are a few which are surrounded by a double outline. Why do some of the challenges have a double outline?

 
@RedRiderX IT's happening in 2 days
 
@Avery since when did internet users make sense?
 
@Mithrandir idk.
 
1:28 AM
@Wipqozn Oh gee
 
@Avery this is pretty much shipping in any online shop
 
@Chippies eh, why isn't it free anyways
 
except a lot of websites also incentivize you to order more at once by giving free shipping on orders over certain amount
@Avery umm, because shipping costs money to someone?
 
I'm already paying 40tl for a shirt and 80tl for a jacket and the site is making a lot of money off that
and thing is
 
when you order more items, they can wave it off due to extra profits from extra purchases, plus it doesn't cost much more to add few extra items to a package that's already getting delivered to your house
 
1:30 AM
multiple things in one purchase are shipped independently. So they pay for each of them. So one fixed price is dumb.
@Chippies read the message under yours, they ship the independently
 
user15026
The Four Horsemen of The Bubble of Silicon Valley Venture Capitalists.
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to ensure that they "arrive as quickly as possible"
 
@Avery But they can still get bulk discounts from the shipper if they know how much volume they need.
 
@Avery would you rather have to pay for each item individually? :P Because that is the most likely alternative that some places do
 
@Avery That could also be because they are in different warehouses right?
 
1:31 AM
@Chippies I'd not but seriously ugh
 
user15026
See, but they don't know you're going to make two orders so they can't plan for that
 
@Avery like I said, they can wave the shipping costs due to extra profits
 
user15026
so part of it is, well, on the purchaser, because like @RedRiderX said, they likely have volume agreements or whatever
 
paying for shipping incentivizes you to buy more and also waste less of their money by ordering small things that cost less than the shipping itself as a whole order
 
hm, that kinda makes sense.
 
user15026
1:33 AM
Shipping can't be free all the time, because, well, someone's gotta pay the shipping companies
 
user15026
@Chippies yeah, basically they trick you into often spending more by saying "oh well you wil save the shipping"
 
and explains why my first order was shipped with company A while second order was shipped with company B
 
the best (also the worst, because spending) thing is when they give you free shipping over certain amount
which means that I always spend that amount
 
user15026
if my thing was $20 and shipping is $10 but free shipping is at $50, they just made $20 on me by making me think oh I am saving now
 
I rather buy a 5$ thing that I don't need, rather than pay 5$ on shipping and have it "wasted"
at least I get a thing, rather than nothing
 
user15026
1:35 AM
Like yes sometimes it's ludicrous (I am looking at you, company that wants $40 to ship me an $11 repair tool)
 
amazon gets me all the time
 
user15026
but often times, you gotta think of the fact that shipping is a business too
 
and they seem to have increased their minimum order price for free shipping from 25$ to 35$
 
user15026
@Chippies this is where Prime saves me because I soend $40 per year on it (as they've not realized yet I am not a student) and I save way more on shipping over the year and also stop that compulsion to spend more to "save" on shipping
 
been considering amazon prime, but living in newfoundland, Idk if it's that useful
@Ash I don't really know what I'd order on amazon.ca so much to justify the 90$ or 70$ or whatever the cost is for non-students
 
1:37 AM
another thing I don't get is, this site has a prime-like program but it's not "pay monthly" but "you can only get it if you spent 1000try in last 6 months" and that's... idk
 
if I could order something that I regularly get somewhere else, it would be worth it
 
user15026
@Chippies See because my work schedule and lack of car prevent me from running errands except on Sunday/Monday mostly, I can often get things like cat litter or whatever faster with Prime than I can get to the store
 
I'd sub if they had a monthly plan but I'm not planning to spend 1000try on stuff from that site anytime soon.
 
@Ash the 2 day shipping doesn't exist in Newfoundland :P
 
user15026
(and bonus points for the fact that I then don't have to CARRY the 30/60 whatever lb cat litter ALL THE WAY HOME)
 
1:38 AM
cat litter sounds like a good thing to order though
it would help if amazon had a nice explore/discover section or something
because without knowing what I want, I don't really know what I can get on amazon
 
user15026
I just tend to assume everything I need ever is there
 
@Ash I think you're mistaking it with amazon.**com** :P
 
user15026
and so I basically go "I need X, can X wait til Sunday/Monday? No? Okay does Amazon have it? Yes? okay good"
 
hm, I broke markup whatever the thing was called :o
 
user15026
@Chippies no not really
 
user15026
1:39 AM
I very, very rarely run into anything I need not being on .ca
 
user15026
@Chippies I think the period broke it maybe?
 
@Ash yeah, that's what I'm kinda thinking. Funny thing is, before it broke, it actually went bold for about a second on my screen
 
user15026
weiiiird
 
the thing with shipping to Newfoundland is that even the most express shipping possible is gonna take roughly a week
if you're lucky and order on a sunday, you might get it on friday or thursday if the stars align your way
 
@Chippies yeah, pre-delivery markdown is different from post-delivery markdown
like, the local JS doesn't run the same markdown engine as the server
 
user15026
1:42 AM
I get lucky because a surprising number of my Amazon purchases come from Mississauga so I get them often within 2 days even if they don't have the 2 day shipping as an ooption
 
ground shipping has to take a ferry. Ferry gets delayed a lot :P
especially in winter
winter is the worst for shipping
 
user15026
yeah, you don't really live in a good spot for ground shipping
 
it's not a very good spot for a lot of things :P
great for snow fights though, I guess
 
user15026
Thats something I suppose
 
2:05 AM
There is only one side. #NoMoreNazis #Wolf2 https://t.co/7Ctu265Mus
So many games this month
Aaa
2 games that I want on the 27th alone
 
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Q: GTA 5 PC Social Club Home Key Not Working

Harjot GillHow do you change the key used to open Social Club Login In GTA 5 PC because my home key is wreaked. GTA 5 by steam just bought and now is a waste of like $70 so please help me? example change key from home to f9

 
user15026
@Lazers2.0 I swear this is the same person who asked this about a cracked version
 
It is
 
Egh, collegehumor is turning from 'random short weird or relatable yet funny comedy skits' to 'social commentary' and while that's fine, it certainly doesn't help with my goal of getting negativity off my life for some while. So ugh, might unsub.
Looking at videos in last month, around 1/10 of the contentof that sort, so IDK
 
2:23 AM
> I haven't had a good feeling about anything since 1997
God dammit fear the walking dead lol
 
user15026
Okay, Star Trek Enterprise is good but that theme song has got.to.go.
 
3:04 AM
So Ontario College Teachers are officially striking
until Ontario colleges and the college teachers union comes to an agreement all classes, assignments, tests, etc. are suspended
 
Send them my solidarity
 
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@BlueBarren I was hoping it wouldn't come to that but I am not shocked it did
 
5:27 AM
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Q: Is there an established single-letter abbreviation for Pokemon energy types?

harlandskiI am playing Pokemon Go and want to keep a note of the types of my Pokemon and their attacks in the name field. I have found unofficial suggestions like this, but this is too much information for me, and the type abbreviations here are two-letter. So my question is - is there an established one-...

 
5:58 AM
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Q: Do some Red Sphere, Blue Sphere stages have more blue spheres than required?

rensaIIRC, the Red Sphere, Blue Sphere stages in S3&K all required you to collect every one of the blue spheres on the stage. But I could swear I've had a few instances in Sonic Mania where I've finished a stage with blue spheres left in front of me. Do some of the later stages have surplus blue spher...

 
 
1 hour later…
7:16 AM
Every time she’s in this bed I feel like my heart might explode
 
7:40 AM
I just tried to long press a word to get a definition… on a physical book.
 
Go to bed @Avery
I mean you were awake a few hours ago, which is either way too early or way too late =p
Also yay new chair at work \o/
 
I slept at 5qm
Am
I'm on school so sleeping would likely not get amazing results
 
That is true
 
Also sleeping on desk hurt my back
 
Heh
I now have the least expensive, best sitting, tallest chair in the office, hmmm
 
7:44 AM
I tried sleeping on a friend's shoulder but he now thinks that I'm trying to hit on him, sigh.
Also I need to read kafka's the trial and it's not the best book to read when sleepy.
 
8:26 AM
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Q: Best gaming laptop for 80k rupees

user106349I am looking for a gaming laptop under 80K rupees. I am a graphic designer so designing and gaming is my main priority. So the display needs to be great too. I don't want laptops from brands HP and ASUS because their service here is appaling.Laptops with great service is also recommended.

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Q: A rotten cheese way to get end game achievements…

SardathrionI was wondering if this cheese was doable: Take a copy of your save game while only Then go into the end game as accept Gehrman's offer thus ending the game and getting one achievement. After that, restore your save game and refuse Gehrman's offer thus ending the game and getting another achi...

 
8:59 AM
Well, shit
School wants a health report.
That includes a list of medication I take
I don't know if I want to write '2mg estradiol, 200mg spironolactone'. Ugh.
Hmmmmmmmmmm I'll just omit them
 
9:12 AM
In the list of super weird bugs: first label on a page, starting from the second page onwards breaks horribly in layout when printed.
 
There is no css that is specific to those labels only. There are also four characters that magically disappear.
 
9:35 AM
@Nzall that's not good at all
 
Hello everyone
 
9:52 AM
@KevinvanderVelden That's some understatement.
 
It's not super horrible but eh
It's not good, but it's a pretty niche attack that can be patched out in a backwards compatible way
 
@KevinvanderVelden The biggest issue is that pretty much every device is vulnerable, not just the routers. This means that there are TONS of IoT devices that make this exploitable
 
Routers aren't the target of this attack
It's recipients of handshake pt3 that are vulnerable, which is the clients
 
@KevinvanderVelden Which makes it even worse, because in this case it's not a simple case of patching your router or waiting for your router manager to patch things. You need to patch EVERYTHING in your house, and considering most companies drop support for patches after a few months in some cases,...
 
10:08 AM
Meh, the only thing they can do is decrypt network traffic (not find the key!) unless you already have bad network security
Basically "Oh the nohs, an adversary physically nearby can decrypt my packets send over wifi", all packets that are important are already over some other secure layer because it's the internet
 
10:37 AM
Btw, I started playing Shadow of War
Trying on the hardest difficulty, rather than normal
And oh boy, it is hard
It feels that the enemies hit harder and the grace time you have to parry an attack or dodge is significantly reduced
Also the game has a mechanic to time the parry/attack on the right time, which doesnt work well with my technique of "spam right and left click and hope for the best"
 
11:05 AM
My school is weird af
 
> If the victim uses either the WPA-TKIP or GCMP encryption protocol, instead of AES-CCMP, the impact is especially catastrophic. Against these encryption protocols, nonce reuse enables an adversary to not only decrypt, but also to forge and inject packets.
 
Someone just snorted mint up their nose
 
> unless you already have bad network security
Those are both bad network security protocols =p
 
@KevinvanderVelden Then why is GCMP being rolled out for wide use over the next few years?
 
Also the worst case of this is that the security of your wifi is as secure as ethernet which an adversary has plugged into. It's a physical access issue
 
11:07 AM
@KevinvanderVelden I dunno. This seems like the kind of thing a dodgy ad might be able to exploit
But then again, the ad would pretty much need packet-scale access to your wifi connection
 
@Nzall AES-CCMP is being rolled out and is not vulnerable (C, not G)
As far as I can tell at least
 
> Note that support for GCMP is currently being rolled out under the name Wireless Gigabit (WiGig), and is expected to be adopted at a high rate over the next few years.
 
I can find no other references to that
Which is weird
(regardless, my point remains: this downgrades wi-fi security to that of regular ethernet, which while a problem is something that devices should already have taken care of)
(as in, you can't just go "Well it gets across to the access point securely so my data is secure!". Because that's not how anything works)
 
11:34 AM
 
I've heard the name but I have no idea who that is
(I'm talking about lubbach btw)
 
@KevinvanderVelden Dutch journalist, brings a Sunday show on VPRO in the style of John Oliver
Something which I greatly miss here in Belgium
his show is pretty much a straight ripoff of Last Week Tonight, but aimed at the Dutch
about the same format, but different topics
 
Is he the one behind the "Holland second" thing?
 
@KevinvanderVelden Yeah
 
Aah, that explains where I know him from
(I don't watch tv)
(I mean, I watch netflix, just not actual tv things because I 'unno)
 
11:39 AM
That's the original
Note: don't try to fix typos in Youtube URLs manually, it won't work
 
12:01 PM
@Moacir until this message I thought the game was actually hard, but then I realized you probably haven't played the first game and just aren't used to the combat yet :P
once you get used to the combat and get combo executions (or better yet - combat brand later on), the game becomes quite easy (the first one at least)
 
@Chippies I played the first game, but I think it was on easy
 
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Q: Can you free a grounded boat?

PhilippIt happened to me a few times that I accidently drove a boat on ground and it wouldn't move forward or backward. Is there some way to get a stranded boat back into water?

 
On the newest game I tried to ramp up and go to nemesis
I got like 80% of the completion of the first game
 
@Moacir spamming clicks doesn't work well in Arkham-style brawler games (which this effectively is). Timing is important, and you're not going to get far on the higher difficulties just by button bashing
 
That slave saving missions are annoying
@Nzall I am proud to say I am adapting
 
12:05 PM
@Moacir I 100%'d the main story, but there's far too many achievs to get from DLC's and I got burnt out
 
TIL the clicking sound from my trackpad is artificial, and can be disabled
wat
I don't even know what's real any more
 
@Moacir The best thing I can recommend is to find an area with a bunch of non-ranged orcs and try to kill them all in a single combo, so you can practice
 
@Chippies 100% main story too. Got all the artifacts and all the words, then all the weapon missions.
 
In the first game, I had at one point a sequence of like X65 combo, which was awesome
 
@Nzall Will look for it
I got x55 combo on the Elven Rage tutorial. does that count?
 
12:07 PM
That sounds a pretty good start
but you should try and intersperse vaults, parries, dodges and glaives
 
On the first time I failed to kill 10 enemies with the elven rage, because the popup mentioned I could hold to execute enemies, so I tried that and killed only 9
But then I got a long combo
I still need to level up more, I am pacing this game really slowly, so I'm still at the first part
 
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Q: Consequences of the WPA2 KRACK attack

Rоry McCuneToday new research was published on vulnerabilities in wireless network security called Krack. What are the real-world consequences of these attacks for users and owners of wireless networks, what can an attacker actually do to you? Also is there anything a wireless network owner can do apart f...

 
I just updated linux and wpa_supplicant
I think that both got patches for krack
 
I'm having one of those days where I'm tormented by vague memories of a game I once played, for which I have no screenshots and therefore can't ask here. It was a River City Ransom clone for the PC, somewhere in the early 2000s. I want to say that it was sharerware, because my memory is of playing it a bit, then actually buying it.
 
@Avery best thing to do is check the versions and try and compare them to what the site says are safe versions
 
12:10 PM
@FuzzyBoots That kinda reminds me of double dragon
Double dragon, I think also fatal fury
 
I remember that two of the power-up moves involved being able to spit milk (maybe intended as a loogie a la Boogerman?) and the ability to reach into a weakened opponent's chest and pull out their heart.
 
Its the "beat-them-up" style, right?
 
@Moacir: It was the Kunio-style super-deformed art-style, and the same RPG-type elements.
And yes, that would be a beat-em-up. :)
 
I don't understand how the AP are vulnerable, except in allowing clients that have been attacked to continue working I suppose
 
I don't think you people are paying enough attention to my trackpad
 
12:11 PM
@Moacir oh, by main story I meant the non-DLC campaign stuff
 
@fredley Are you pointing out how hipster you are?
 
@Chippies Same here. The only "dlc" I played was the nemesis forge one
 
@fredley I'm assuming it's an apple device
 
@Chippies can't be, there's no i in there
 
iTouchpad
 
12:12 PM
@KevinvanderVelden he could just try to be deceiving about it
 
@Nzall where can I see the list of patched versions?
 
@FuzzyBoots When I google "PC brawler spit milk 2000", I get A LOT of articles about why babies spit up milk
 
@Moacir: There was more of an occult element to the game too, I think, including perhaps the ability to play as one of the zombies that you could face?
@Nzall :-D Ah, Google...
 
@KevinvanderVelden Yes, I am using a Mac. But the trackpad noise was not real. I was clicking, but the noise was coming from speakers.
 
Does it come from headphones if you have them
 
12:14 PM
@fredley oh I had completely missed your earlier message
We were talking about important things and/or games
 
Games are off-topic in this chat room
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But yeah, that WPA2 hack is pretty amazing
 
You are off-topic in this chat room
 
You're not our real mod!
 
@Avery w1.fi/security/2017-1/… is a blog post from wpa_s
 
dang
that's a lot of patches
 
12:15 PM
@fredley I don't think it comes from the speaker, I think it's something in the trackpad itself
 
@Ronan Yeah, I can't quite figure it out. Why on earth this is even an option is baffling to me
 
@Chippies I got the achievements of the DLC campaigns, nothing from where you need to do a specific map with locked objectives (trial of the wild or some such things) So I'm missing like 4-5 achievements.
 
Its for click confirmation actually. If it makes no sound you have no idea if you clicked or not
Some people like that
 
@fredley They've removed the option for the 2017 macs
 
@fredley In case you need to use a macbook in stealth
 
12:17 PM
@Moacir But you can feel it, it's a mechanical click
As in the trackpad depresses
 
@fredley What if you dont know if the trackpad it is actually working? Like a physical problem
 
I mean you don't know that for a regular mouse so
 
> [The sound is] "emulated" by vibrating the haptic engine harder
 
@Unionhawk I'm just saying why it could be a thing
 
> ... vibrating... harder
 
12:18 PM
Everything done has a reason
Well, most of things actually
 
@KevinvanderVelden pls
 
This is objectively false
 
It vibrates slightly as confirmation for clicks regardless, this is an option for if you want that vibration to be loud as well
 
Wait, does the trackpad actually depress when I click or is that just the haptics?
 
I'm actually used to windows, so I'll stop commenting on that
 
12:20 PM
yeah
 
@fredley It has some give to it, but the descreet click is haptics
 
@fredley everything you thought you knew is fake
 
Dang it... this will probably come to me eventually. Thank you for your help.
 
wpa_supplicant was updated after the patches so I assume it's fine
 
Turn off you Mac (shocker I know) and press the touch pad
 
12:20 PM
@Ronan I want to see what it feels like when it's dead
 
I just pulled 3 small rocks out of the soles of my shoes
 
With the laptop shut down
@Ronan I haven't shut down my laptop in a very very long time...
 
hm
 
@fredley is over here having an existential crisis about haptic feedback
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I should actually restart to use the patched stuff
 
12:22 PM
what a first world problem
 
@Unionhawk Everything I thought I tapped was a lie
 
@fredley Nothing is true, everything is permitted
 
just restarted, that was quite fast
thanks arch.
I first installed it because lol memes
but like...
it's actually quite good.
 
The end is near
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That's in the British Isles btw
Orange sky, red sun. Hurricane Ophelia
Images from our Roches Point weather webcam. Trees are coming down. Roches Point has a mean wind speed of 111km/h Gusts of 156km/h #Ophelia
 
now all we need is a talking goat and a monkey as the final sign that Baal's return is neigh
now where are some Replicators we have ready for sicking on those snake bastards
 
12:27 PM
Uugh baal, there's just way too many of that guy.
 
Fancy, I was able to make the printing bug worse. IE does not have it though...
YES, I HAVE A BUG IN EVERYTHING EXCEPT IE.
 
No no, there's just an IE bug hiding the other bug
So really, IE has 2 bugs
 
IE does it correctly though.
Which is insane.
 
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Q: Openttd: why do these station ratings drop?

julka For whatever reason, ratings for oil in both Transfer and Valley stations drop to Atrocious and the amount of oil I get continues dropping. There are enough trains and truck to have one always loading. I'm using ECS all vectors and Expert industries NewGRFs. Why do oil ratings drop to atrocio...

 
Openttd, here is a game I need to play again
 
12:44 PM
so apparently, I can't ping someone cross-chat
 
No, they have to have been in this room "recently"
 
For relatively broad definitions of recently
 
Hence the quotes
 
Come on, Twitter, please update Tweetdeck to 280 so I can actually use the extra characters you gave me 2 weeks ago.
 
I still don't have 280
yeah just checked, 140
 
1:01 PM
So WPA2 is now just as vulnerable as WEP.
 
With WEP you can figure out the key in under a minute,
with WPA2 you can (in clients with a fixable implementation issue), do an active attack to decrypt or optionally forge packets
 
> According to a researcher who has been briefed on the vulnerability, it works by exploiting a four-way handshake that's used to establish a key for encrypting traffic. During the third step, the key can be resent multiple times. When it's resent in certain ways, a cryptographic nonce can be reused in a way that completely undermines the encryption.
 
I have read the paper =p
(also by "or optionally" I mean "in certain configurations")
But yeah, WEP is broken because you can passively find out the decryption key. With WPA2 you can actively degrade the security of a client to slightly above that of ethernet
 
1:09 PM
I guess "vulnerable" wasn't the right word. I blame that word choice on me just getting up and also I don't know much about cybersecurity.
Or what everyone calls it these days, "cyber".
 
Oh no. There is an implementation vulnerability, but it's not "broken" as such
 
> Warning: The player staying up past 6PM in any season but Winter will result in all animals mood being gradually reduced to a minimum of 150, meaning you will never receive Mood bonuses when going to sleep late (Past around 8pm depending on animal type)
Huh, TIL.
 
Stardew Valley?
That sounds false
 
"Petting your animal after letting it graze on grass would reset Mood bonuses" sounds false too, but that was true until it was patched.
 
I mean, I have gotten bonuses after going to sleep late
 
1:15 PM
Well, it does say "gradually" so I guess if you go to sleep before 6PM at any point, it'll reset the reduction.
 
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Q: Fallout New Vegas: I fail quests I haven't accepted or started

EthanHow can I fail quests if I haven't started them yet, or even accepted them? For example I went to prison to save the new sheriff for Primm, and while killing the Powder Gangers I got the message that I have failed the quest "I fought the law". Same thing happened again while cleaning Vault 3, I...

 
I'm guessing no
That's not the usual meaning of gradually
 
Oh whoops, re-read the sentence.
 
So Youtube still has the bug where the small playlist navigator counts the videos after the 100th video in the playlist double when indicating what video you're watching
Example: click video 102 in youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2437FE98792CC8D9. Up until video 101, it goes well, but then it thinks that there are 2 videos passed since video 100 at video 102, so the first video it shows in the list is video 103 (because there are 2 videos between 100 and 103)
Oh boy, Swift on Security just retweeted a tweet that mentioned me. Sorry, my mentions will probably become unusable the next 4 or 5 hours
 
1:32 PM
you can mute notifications for a tweet
it's the best feature
 
@Unionhawk How?
 
Which platform
 
like, it's just the RTs and likes I want muted, not the replies
 
oh
Then no never mind
There might be a way
but it's not "mute this conversation"
 
1:45 PM
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Q: Skript Problems

DerpologgsI should probably be posting this on Bukkit Forums but heck do I know how to even make a thread over there. Trying to add the tutorial Skript trigger: on right click on soil holding a hoe: player has seeds block above the clicked block is air set block above the clicked block to crops remo...

 
@Lazers2.0 oh my god those tags I'm going to die
 
And today keeps on giving: dan.enigmabridge.com/…
I'm checking whether my Belgian EID is also vulnerable to this ROCA bug
 
EID... Exploded Improvisation Device?
 
@KevinvanderVelden electronic id
It's saying "no key detected, which I think is not intended
Okay, Belgian keys are secure
 

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