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Snowflake

12:00 AM

Does anyone here have a Kindle Fire? Sorry to go off-topic there.

Wipqozn

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Snowflake

I ordered one, but I'd like someone's opinion on it who owns it.

@Wip

@Wipqozn Oops. I meant to say Thanks for the link.

Nick T

Yes, Stetsons and SC2

like Peanut butter and Pork chops

Sterno

I haven't been having any ME3 multiplayer disconnects on PC, but my friend I play with gets them nonstop

Of course, about 12 seconds after I say that, Origin crashes

murgatroid99

12:16 AM

@Wipqozn OK, I see. So it's just a temporary thing

FAE

Yay, got my Silver round in

Wipqozn

@FAE high-five

Lazers

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Q: Is it best to always interrupt people?

Frequently when having conversations with various colorful (literally) characters the option appears to interrupt them with either a Paragon or Renegade action. Obviously, I'm a commander with a lot on his plate and don't always want to wait for the other guy to stop yapping. On the other hand, I...

mass-effect-3

FAE

@Wipqozn I like how you high-five me for this completely without context

Wipqozn

@FAE I assume ti has something to do with ME3

Perhaps even....this?

FAE

12:21 AM

hehe

Wipqozn

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Oh George Takei, how your wall is one of the few reasons I still use Facebook.

user15026

@Wipqozn Haha same here. :)

Nick T

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LessPop_MoreFizz

You want to know what information and documents you need, right? If you have to go to court, you want to be prepared, right, right?

Tweeted by Horse_ebooks on March 18, 2012 at 11:43 PM

FAE

@LessPop @Raven A ME3 MP unlock checklist if you like checklists for this sorta thing

Sterno

12:30 AM

I want a Scorpion in MP

Nick T

lol, Rotterdam is hilarious

Blem

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Lazers

12:46 AM

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Q: How do I set name in Minecraft offline WITH MC Patcher?

Yes I've seen the other questions of the same problem, I've been using this line: java -Xms512m -Xmx1024m -cp "%APPDATA%.minecraft\bin*" -Djava.library.path="%APPDATA%.minecraft\bin\natives" net.minecraft.client.Minecraft "Insert Name Here" and it's been working beautifully, I've just installed a...

minecraft windows java

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Q: Where's the line between friends and lovers?

According to this, this, and this, the dating world is exclusive a singular person for the duration of the game. In other words, I'm not capable of romancing Ashley and Samantha at the same time. Also, if I put the moves on Liara, even if I later let the air out of our romance balloon, I cannot "...

mass-effect-3

FAE

@Sterno Ultra-Rare in MP :(

Wipqozn

On an unrelated note. Do you know what I can't stand?

When you e-mail someone, and CC some contacts, and when the person replies they don't use "reply all" and only reply to you.

Ben Brocka

1:01 AM

@FAE I wondered what I never saw anyone using them

LessPop_MoreFizz

Internet Spelling Pet Peeve # 352: "Nurf."

Wipqozn

@LessPop_MoreFizz As in "You should nurf Zerg!!!!!!!!!!!one11one!!11one11!"?

Ben Brocka

@LessPop_MoreFizz that's a new one on me

LessPop_MoreFizz

I see it all the time. Though more in the past tense (nurfed) for some reason.

Ben Brocka

I must not play enough online games with 12 year olds to hve heard it

Raven Dreamer

1:09 AM

@FAE What does it say that as soon as I saw "checklist", I knew who was pinging me? :P

FAE

@RavenDreamer Hush you. This one's not from my friend!

Ben Brocka

@TimStone got any tips of the mantis? I hate it, but the only sniper rifles I have in MP are the mantis and incisor

incisor doesn't seem that bad though for an only-gun

Raven Dreamer

@FAE <3

FAE

@LessPop_MoreFizz ...it's not even shorter

Tim Stone

@BenBrocka Ah, I still haven't messed about in MP yet, so I can't speak from experience. :/

LessPop_MoreFizz

1:11 AM

@FAE Nope, not shorte. Just dumber.

Ben Brocka

Ah. I've been trying to use the Quarian infiltrator (sabotage, cloak and some useless grenades) and the Mantis was making it painful

LessPop_MoreFizz

(incidentally, in my experience it's a variant spelling much more popular with Europeans.)

FAE

I've never seen it before now either

or if I have, I've blocked it out

Ben Brocka

Deyz gunna nurf mah zerg

LessPop_MoreFizz

Used to see it all the time on EJ and wow forums in particular.

Ben Brocka

1:13 AM

There's your problem, wow users

Lazers

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Q: Slime Spawning Issues

I dug a large room to specifications, 3 blocks tall and 16 blocks wide as well as long. I dug it at 10 levels above bedrock, in a location {(-240, 0) -> (-224, 16)} specified by this slime finder app. I am definitely more than 24 blocks away and less than 32 away from the spawn room, as specified...

minecraft

Raven Dreamer

Haven't seen any ultra rares yet, :(

FAE

@RavenDreamer Same. Unlocked an Asari Adept though.

Raven Dreamer

Woo

We should buddy up and explosion spam them to death.

one of us warps

the other one throws

Ben Brocka

@FAE I got the asari vanguard today

...not very impressed

FAE

1:18 AM

@BenBrocka I had difficulty playing her efficiently because I'm so used to Charge->Nova

Ben Brocka

I don't usually Nova

I melee..and no biotic punch is throwing me off

LessPop_MoreFizz

I got an ultra rare weapon today

The assault rifle.

Ben Brocka

the asari shockwave seems potentially good but doesn't seem to one hit kill

LessPop_MoreFizz

No idea if it's any good.

Ben Brocka

is the Geth rifle in MP?

FAE

1:19 AM

Yeah, Rare

if you mean the Geth Pulse Rifle

Ben Brocka

yeah

it seemed good

I'm mostly waiting for my evisterator though, love that in SP

FAE

I barely used weapons in SP

Sterno

@LessPop_MoreFizz Internet Spelling Pet Peeve #1: "Loose/Looser" instead of "Lose/Loser"

StrixVaria

My Internet pet peeve is when people say backslash when they mean slash.

That bothers the shit out of me.

FAE

@StrixVaria I thought your Internet pet peeve was people. :P

StrixVaria

1:24 AM

@FAE People are the root cause of all other peeves, so I guess you could say that.

Everyone should be a robot like me.

Sterno

It seems more efficient to simply fix your robot programming to not be annoyed by people.

Ben Brocka

I mean, it's been almost twenty years. Now, it's possible you're simply embedding Windows directory paths in your URIs, but in that case you need more than just a short lecture.

Portali5t

i like that very much.

Raven Dreamer

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@FAE ^

And darn it, now I want the mass effect soudntrack.

Ben Brocka

if I max out a gun (rank X) in ME3 MP, will I stop getting upgrades for that gun in the packs?

FAE

1:31 AM

@RavenDreamer You didn't get it any of the versions with it?

@RavenDreamer That was decently well done

Raven Dreamer

@FAE I came to the franchise late; I bought them both on Steam, heavily discounted.

the first two, rather

FAE

Ah gotcha.

Raven Dreamer

Aaaand for the 3rd, I didn't want to spring the extra $20 for the collector's edition

FAE

I only have the ME3 one m'self.

Raven Dreamer

(And given my feelings on the game, I think I'd still not buy it if I had to do it again)

LessPop_MoreFizz

1:33 AM

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Q: Skyrim Easy enchanting skill

I'm trying to grind to 100 Enchanting skill. Will enchanting an item heavier than an Iron Dagger net more experience?

skyrim

thats a dupe fuck mobile search etc.

Ben Brocka

it was fun, but I wouldn't have paid full price for it myself...thank you Gaming.SE

LessPop_MoreFizz

someone cast the first close vote for me, thanks

Tim Stone

Must...get...close...privs...

Wipqozn

@LessPop_MoreFizz Are you sure? I can't find a dupe.

Ben Brocka

@TimStone answer ME3 question = max daily rep :P

Wipqozn

1:35 AM

Although my initial thought is also that it is a dupe.

LessPop_MoreFizz

Pretty sure we have a 'how do i level enchanting' dupe somewhere

Ben Brocka

well, it was that way before, it seems to be tapering off someway

Raven Dreamer

@LessPop_MoreFizz closest I could find was this: gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/36017/…

Portali5t

What happens if you go over your daily rep?

Raven Dreamer

which is... not quite the same thing.

Ben Brocka

1:36 AM

I didn't find a dupe in 5 results and ran out of %$^$s to give

Tim Stone

@BenBrocka Yeah, on my NG+ playthrough trying to pick up screenshots for anything remaining that needs them. :P

Portali5t

do u just get the remaining rep the next day?

Ben Brocka

@Portali5t you get a max of 200 rep from votes per day, and you "lose" the excess

user15026

@Portali5t Nope. You hit 200, that's it.

Portali5t

Ohh. crap :(

Ben Brocka

1:37 AM

it's so a single super popular question doesn't shoot you to a crazy high privilege level ect

and also to encourage you to do something other than post on SE all day I assume

Portali5t

makes sense, but its flawed.

Ben Brocka

(which I suppose it's not great at)

user15026

Unless you get a bounty or an accept.

Raven Dreamer

@BenBrocka accepted answers still count though

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Portali5t no it's just lost forever.

user15026

1:37 AM

@Portali5t How so?

Raven Dreamer

I hit 400 rep consistently on the first week of ME3.

Wipqozn

@RavenDreamer I disagree. They appear different at first glance, but they are asking the same thing. What's the cheapest way to level enchantment.

Ben Brocka

Accepts, bounties ect still win

@RavenDreamer I got around 600 two days in a row, fun times

Wipqozn

Going to cast a close as duplicate vote, and let the community work the rest out.

Raven Dreamer

@Wipqozn One is asking if enchanting different objects gives different values of XP. The other is asking the least expensive way, gold-wise, to do that.

Wipqozn

1:40 AM

@RavenDreamer I believe this is a case where both questions are similiar enough that if one question covers both answers, then they should be closed as dups.

Portali5t

@AshleyNunn I think that there should not be any kind of restriction if you're getting rep from different places or different questions. I like the idea of a limit, but it should be more precise and try to solve the problem without creating more.

Lazers

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Q: Skyrim Easy enchanting skill

I'm trying to grind to 100 Enchanting skill. Will enchanting an item heavier than an Iron Dagger net more experience?

skyrim

0

Q: How do I solve the zol sliding puzzle?

On floor 4F in the Passaj Mountain Climb, there is a sliding puzzle. You have two large blocks of zol, and you need to slide each one into a slot on one side of the room. I have tried this over and over and over, and I keep getting stuck. How do I solve this puzzle?

golden-sun-dark-dawn

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Q: How do I transfer gold between factions?

I've got a character on Horde and now a brand new one on Alliance (same realm). Problem is that the Alliance-side economy doesn't seem to be as lucrative at lower levels as its Horde-side equivalents. Now that Blizzard has apparently cut off bidding on your own items from the same account, is t...

world-of-warcraft

Wipqozn

since it is reasonable (imo) to expect the answer to the question to be covered in the the answers to the other question.

Portali5t

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A: How many skill points will I have at level 20?

Portali5t is correct, and incidentally 84 points is enough to fully upgrade 4 abilities as long as no points are spent on the fifth.

5

A: How many skill points will I have at level 20?

You will have 84 skill points at level 20 of Mass Effect 3, if none are spent already. Sources: http://www.gamerswithjobs.com/node/111356 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_Effect_3 Personal experience- I own the game and play the multiplayer frequently.

Is it just me, or should this be a comment?

Raven Dreamer

@Portali5t Could be, but it also answers the question.

Portali5t

1:42 AM

Yes, by saying i'm right. ;)

Ben Brocka

hmm, so what do the Reapers do with the Geth?

Portali5t

yeah, but after i did, and i was referring to the "portali5t is correct...)

It should probably be a comment on my answer.

Wipqozn

@RavenDreamer I don't think saying "that other answer is right" answers the question. That's an up vote, not an answer.

Raven Dreamer

It answers the question and provides a detail that wasn't in your answer (an idea of how one could spend those 84 points). I see no reason to change it.

Portali5t

OK.

Wipqozn

1:43 AM

> incidentally 84 points is enough to fully upgrade 4 abilities as long as no points are spent on the fifth.

Raven Dreamer

@Wipqozn Yeah, but it then goes on to repeat the answer. It acknowledges the source, then repeats it.

Wipqozn

is slightly outside the scope of the question mo

Portali5t

kind of random, which was my point exactly

Raven Dreamer

If you don't think it's an answer, downvote.

It's not something that is actionable.

Portali5t

I dont like downvoting.

Wipqozn

1:44 AM

@Portali5t Why?

Portali5t

Makes you look crabby.

StrixVaria

@Portali5t Huh?

Portali5t

WE ARE NEGATRONS

only when it's neccessary.

LessPop_MoreFizz

USE YOUR DOWNVOTES

user15026

@Portali5t Downvotes are a) anonymous and b) good for weeding out not useful/crap

Portali5t

1:45 AM

otherwise, leave a comment

StrixVaria

What else would you do when something is wrong?

LessPop_MoreFizz

LOVE YOUR DOWNVOTES

user15026

@LessPop_MoreFizz THIS THIS THIS

LessPop_MoreFizz

DOWNVOTES ARE YOUR FRENDZ.

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StrixVaria

@Portali5t I think you might just be new and not understand the system yet.

Portali5t

1:45 AM

That could come back to bite you.

yeah, im still learning.

user15026

@Portali5t How so?

Portali5t

That's what starring is, taking things out of context.

Raven Dreamer

@AshleyNunn And, if the downvotes result in the answer being deleted, you get your rep back! (yay!)

user15026

@RavenDreamer Which is a lovely bonus :)

Portali5t

I didn't know that!

Cool!

StrixVaria

1:46 AM

We're not downvoting because were crabby crabapples, we're downvoting because we want to deter future low-quality additions and show that this addition is low quality to begin with.

Raven Dreamer

@LessPop_MoreFizz I didn't even think there were 8 active chatters in the room. O.o

Tristan

Also, downvotes on questions are free!

LessPop_MoreFizz

My downvote advocacy brings all the boys to the yard

StrixVaria

@Wipqozn They wrote a blog post on how identify-this-story is the best kind of question or something ridiculous like that.

Well, one person wrote a blog post on that.

user15026

@Portali5t Hey, any chance you could reply to the specific things you are referring to, in general? It makes chat easier to understand. (If you don't know how - hover over the message - there is a little arrow on the right side. Click it, and it will make your reply, well, a reply. :)

StrixVaria

1:47 AM

But I imagine he speaks for a lot of them.

Wipqozn

@StrixVaria ...wow

user15026

@StrixVaria For serious?

Portali5t

It makes sense now why downvoting is a useful tool- Thanks peoples

user15026

That just...oy. shakes head

Tristan

@LessPop_MoreFizz Can you teach me? Or would you have to charge?

Portali5t

1:48 AM

@AshleyNunn ok sorry

Wipqozn

Liking IT questions is one thing... but to claim they are the best type of question?

that's just ridiculous.

StrixVaria

Stack Exchange Science Fiction & Fantasy Blog: The Last Question

Tony Meyer on March 01, 2012

Jeff Atwood, one of the founders of the StackExchange network, chose to mark his last (day-to-day) day at the company with a post disparaging identification questions. As Jeff pointed out in his post, the story-identification tag is the second most common on our site right now, so I’d like to point out why our community feels that these are a valuable part of the site, where we disagree with Jeff’s viewpoint, and hopefully give you a bit better understanding of how decisions about what’s on-topic are made (and then re-made, and re-made, and …). …

user15026

@Portali5t Eh, no worries. Just makes it nicer when people have multiple conversations going. Took me a bit to learn that one, too.

StrixVaria

> Our engine is great at these kinds of questions

Portali5t

@AshleyNunn ' now i know how to!

user15026

1:48 AM

@StrixVaria I say nay nay!

user15026

@Portali5t Huzzah! :D

William

does not like downvoting

Portali5t

HEROO WILLUM

William

Hey there!

I remember you!

You wrote that awesome answer.

Mana

> Our engine is great at these kinds of questions

StrixVaria

1:49 AM

1 min ago, by StrixVaria

> Our engine is great at these kinds of questions

user15026

Man, I am still not used to that "x questions with new activity" thing....I still compulsively refresh XD

Mana

> Actually, while the StackExchange engine is great at some types of question that aren’t generally suited to the sites (e.g. polls), I find that there are many problems with using it for story identification,...

William

I don't like downvoting because of the people that overuse the tool and use it to annoy.

Mana

> However, even though these aren’t a great fit with the StackExchange engine, they are a valuable part of our site, and they’re better than the current best the Internet has to offer...

StrixVaria

@William No.

Tim Stone

1:50 AM

@AshleyNunn Yeaaaaah...

StrixVaria

We use it to deter bad quality content.

And to point out bad content.

We don't downvote just to annoy.

user15026

@William Overuse? Oh, no, it does not get used enough.

StrixVaria

That's ludicrous.

William

No, thats what flags are for.

user15026

@William No, not for everything

Raven Dreamer

1:50 AM

@William, @Portali5t you two know each other?

William

Some new users who don't know how to use the tool properly will use it too much.

Portali5t

that is what downvoting is designed for- to eliminate shit. Some Tr0LL5 use it to annoy, but they get eliminated quikly

LessPop_MoreFizz

@William the correct solution to improper downvotes is to counter them directly with upvotes, and counter them indirectly with proper downvotes that peoperly sort good from bad content.

Portali5t

@RavenDreamer Kind of... We just know each other via SE

LessPop_MoreFizz

Flags are for eliminating outright garbage. Downvotes are more about seperating the stuff that's merely not very good from the stuff that's great.

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William

1:51 AM

Well, downvoting is a matter of personal preference.

user15026

@TimStone Glad I am not the only one :D

William

I will list an example, 1 sec.

StrixVaria

@William That's true, but it's also part of the system that should be used. It was built for a purpose.

We can't dictate how to use your downvotes, but we can give guidelines on how they should be used.

William

OK, found example.

Raven Dreamer

@Portali5t Aha. Gotcha.

William

1:52 AM

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A: Connecting to the internet through Firefox

You have scarcely any detail in your question, so it is very hard to help you. But, I will try to touch on the most common issues with getting online and Ubuntu. I hope this helps, and if you need clarification, please ask. But next time, please be a little more specific. You said that you use W...

On this question, I worked really hard on a really vauge question.

Portali5t

@RavenDreamer what u mean?

StrixVaria

That's a terrible question that deserves downvotes.

William

Yes, I agreee.

Raven Dreamer

4 mins ago, by Portali5t

HEROO WILLUM

William

Someone, for those of you that can see total votes, someone downvoted my answer for no particular reason.

Raven Dreamer

1:53 AM

seemed kinda personal.

William

DIdn't even leave a comment.

Portali5t

LOL connecting to internet via firefox thats like HOW I TURN ON COMPOOOTER

Mana

spinkicks Raven in the face

Hi.

user15026

@William They might have had their own reason. And that is how the system works - it is intended that votes are anonymous, and people don't -have- to explain themselves.

Wipqozn

@William Due to how vague the question is you don't have enough detail to answer the question.

Raven Dreamer

1:54 AM

@Mana droppunches Mana in the bonebulge

Hello yourself, stranger.

StrixVaria

@William Not that I did it, but I've downvoted answers to particularly bad questions before on high-rep users because it sets a bad example to answer questions that are that bad.

William

True, but I worked hard.

StrixVaria

If you want help, have the decency to ask a real question.

user15026

I know I would hate having to explain every move I make here, negative or otherwise.

Portali5t

@RavenDreamer i guess so... not so though.

Raven Dreamer

1:54 AM

@Mana Getting a kick out of your alter-ego's latest Dave-based shenanigans?

Portali5t

rhymes

William

Yeah, I know Portal.

I told him about SE.

I am a complete askubuntu addict.

Mana

@RavenDreamer haven't been keeping up too well

Wipqozn

@William Doesn't matter how hard you worked if your answer is wrong, or is just a shot in the dark.

Raven Dreamer

@Mana How's Daphne?

William

1:55 AM

No, my answer is as right as it could be.

Mana

@RavenDreamer Much better, thanks!

William

I worked as hard as I could to cover all the common problems.

Mana

I'm going over to her place to finish off the pie remnants from Pi Day soon-ish.

Wipqozn

@William Yes, but if you had more information it could turn out your answer is completely wrong. That's my point. Due to how vague the question is you really can't offer the OP any solutions. You're just guessing.

StrixVaria

@William You also got 13 upvotes. So you got a net +128 rep.

user15026

1:56 AM

@Wipqozn Yeah. It is an unfortunate thing, but true nonetheless - I can work for hours on an answer, but if it is wrong, or unhelpful, or completely vague, or just a guess, then it might be a bad answer. And then people will probably downvote me. Which means the system is working as it should.

StrixVaria

That's pretty good.

William

It's llike downvoting a question because it's poorly written. Don't downvote, instead edit and improve the post to set an example for the new user.

Yes, i'm not arguiing that.

But, I was using it as a case in context for a downvote for no reason.

user15026

@William There is only so much you can do though - if the post is incomprehensible, or utter garbage, it might not be with the editing effort.

William

And if your'e gonna downvote, at least leave a comment.

StrixVaria

I'm not sure what point you're trying to prove with that, though.

William

1:57 AM

That's the least you can do.

StrixVaria

Are you saying comments should be mandatory when downvoting?

That's a bit silly.

Wipqozn

I agree that it's good practice to leave comments when down voting, but it shouldn't be required.

William

No, I;m saying out of courtesy to others leave a comment.

Portali5t

the little numbers below someones photo are their total rep right/

StrixVaria

So you get the annoying downvote on legitimate content sometimes. Big deal. People are jerks.

It happens to everyone.

William

1:58 AM

+1 for "People are Jerks"

Wipqozn

Just remember that down votes only produce -2 rep. You would need at least 5 down votes to negative the rep bonus from one up vote.

Raven Dreamer

@Portali5t Correct.

William

Never hath more true words been spoken.

user15026

@Wipqozn On an answer. :)

Wipqozn

So don't get too worked up about the odd down vote every now and again.

user15026

1:59 AM

@Portali5t Yup! :)

Wipqozn

@AshleyNunn You rebel.

William

Correct.

TylerShads

@William Downvoting is annonymous, there's checks in the system to prevent abuse, costs rep to the downvoter for answers, and you need to hit a certain rep point to even downvote to begin with, ntm everything you downvote, you get a popup asking you to leave a comment, I see no more improvements to the system that can be made

William

I'm saying that sometimes a downvote isn't the best option.

user15026

@Wipqozn Hey, I am just speaking the truth! Unless you have crazy alien math.

William

1:59 AM

I use the button sparingly.

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