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12:04 AM
WHO THE HELL IS BRETT WHIIIIIIoh.
 
@Mana Bot.
That has a nice ring to it. Manabot.
Actually...
What does it say @Mana?
 
12:56 AM
I...I don't know.
Truffles.
Memes. Maaaaaaaan.
maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan
 
Oh God.
Goodbye, @Mana.
I'm gonna go cry into a pint of Ben&Jerry's Brownie Batter™ ice cream, then take out my frustration on a variety of great flash games from PopCap Games®.
 
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Q: What are pins and how do I draw them?

Anna LearIn Crayon Physics Deluxe, I can't draw more than one object or click the ball to get my solution to count as "elegant", but I can draw pins. What are pins and how do I create them?

 
 
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5:04 AM
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Q: Old PC side scroller about a fat guy in red cap wearing blue shirt

SodrohuThis game I once played with my neighbour, I think around mid to late 90s. It''s a 2D sidescroller, and in each level consists of stairs and platforms, where the protagonist goes around collecting ammo and avoiding monsters. The protagonist is a fat guy in red cap, blue shirt and whenever he stop...

 
 
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6:59 AM
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Q: Does Haruka ever get tired?

AubergineI just picked up Yakuza 3 and at the very beginning of the game there is a segment where you wander around Kamurocho with Haruka with the goal of letting her have a good time by visiting various restaurants/attractions. Eventually, you're supposed to leave her at Emoto's clinic so that you can g...

 
7:58 AM
Beat Hazard is updating without release notes :/
...same for VVVVVV really.
@Powerlord Not today. I guess the problem is, the last three crates would include one for the Engineer
New items for the Engineer? Heresy.
(We have to wait for next week.)
Gah, Notch's levels for VVVVVV are byzantine and labyrinthine.
 
8:21 AM
0
Q: Is there a chronological order to the Earth Defence Force series?

MdaGI'm a little confused about the EDF games storywise. Is Global Defence Force, Earth Defence Force 2017, Earth Defence Force - Insect Armageddon, etc. stand alone or are they connected storywise?

 
8:33 AM
Got 3/5, but the other twos are going to be kinda harder than that.
 
8:50 AM
Here's where lag really stinks in TF2: melee
You're almost always lagging behind on others' screens
this effectively increases other people's melee range by a surprising lot, because if they hit you on their screen it's a hit, period.
The solution would be to not run away from them :/
Yeah VAC, failure in connection to your server is just what I needed
let me assure you I was wondering, how about a nice lil regular kicking from all servers every three minutes until I perform the correct sequence of router and steam restarts?
 
9:11 AM
So... um... if the engineer crates drop between Aug 2nd and Aug 25th I'll miss them almost definitely
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@Thomas, @Powerlord, are you going to be able to play during those weeks?
Would you like some metal in exchange for the first strange Engineer crate you'll get, when I'll get back?
 
9:31 AM
@badp hi, what is it you're after? is there new engineer gubbins on the way?
 
Strange engineer weapons
especially a strange wrench.
 
is there an update coming?
 
next week probably
where the current set of strange crates should give way to the third and last
 
I'll probably be playing during at that time, so you can have it if I get it
 
19 was demo, 20 was soldier, 21 was heavy; 23 is scout, 24 is spy, 25 is pyro; that leaves engie, sniper and medic
 
The first set lasted three weeks; we're in the third week of the second set, so...
 
ah, i see your logic
i've never had the nerve to spend £1.99 on a key just to end up getting a paint pot
 
those crates yield a strange weapon 90% of the time IIRC
and so long as they're the only way to get strange items...
 
i'm just happy with droppin' and craftin'
as my mother used to say
90% of the time you say?
i did not know that
reaches for penny jar
 
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Q: Which companions play a substantive role in the Legacy DLC?

Mark TrappDragon Age II: Legacy allows you to choose whomever you want for your party makeup, but there seems to be a few choices that provide more flavor than others. For example, Varric has a ton of cutscene dialogue (at least early on) and one of the achievements/trophies for the DLC requires Bethany/C...

 
9:42 AM
wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Crates - check out series 19-21 for which drop rates have been estimated
 
access denied
i am supposed to be working
I will take your word for it
 
10:12 AM
0
Q: Why games like Thief and COCDCOTE are no more?

user712092There used to be games which seemed to be intereting from the point that main character was interesting ("I don't care about You all" Thief), or game enviroment was very dynamic or it was based on interesting motives (Lovecraft's Cthulhu Mythos). I seem to find similar games in indie games but no...

 
10:25 AM
I have a domination on an idle server
I'm now a happy idler.
 
I really wish I waited to buy my 3DS
 
@badp why do you idle? for drops?
 
Although 20 free games from the 3DS shop will be nice.
 
I'm idling because tomorrow I leave for Wien, so I want this week's drops.
Although I fail at idling and I'm actually playing
Also I haven't got a single drop in the meantime
 
 
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12:31 PM
sometimes I just have to record my desktop to explain how I can play this bad
like, I sap a sentry and right click outside the window
by the time I'm back I'm dead
 
Why are you playing in windowed mode?
 
You don't play in full screen?
 
Yo!
 
Just in time @mana! We were just asking @badp why he doesn't play TF2 in full screen mode.
 
fps
alt-tabbing
 
12:37 PM
@badp FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUU
I hate alt tab
 
@Wipqozn Wow, you know, that is exactly the kind of question I could help out with.
 
@Mana That's why we were so happy to see you!
 
I know! Because that's exactly the kind of question I could help out with!!
 
I was playing through diablo 2 with a friend not that long ago, I think we accidentally minimized the game at least three times a play session.
 
how much time to resume playing after that alt-tab?
in windowed it's 0
 
12:39 PM
I should really disable alt-tab
 
so that's a great plus to windowed mode
 
You know another button I hate?
The windows logo key, the one that returns you to the desktop.
 
The search button on ChromeBooks?
Oh.
 
It serves no purpose aside from pissing me off, considering alt-tab achieves the same thing.
 
again in windowed mode there's no penalty for hitting that
windowed mode solves all the problems created by those buttons
 
12:41 PM
@Wipqozn but...it's useful if you want to run a quick search
 
except pressing them accidentally
 
@badp Exactly.
Getting to the search is so easy anyways, it's not a big deal.
 
yes but getting to the game back is the big problem
 
I should really get around to disabling both of those buttons.
@badp Exactly.
It just shouldn't function when a full screen program is running.
 
Oh man, OK GO has a new video out!!
 
12:43 PM
yes, in windowed mode there's no cost to getting back. (5th time I say that?)
you should really try it.
 
I dislike windowed mode for most full screen games.
I'm just going to disable alt-tab. My mouse has a feature that let's me do the same thing, on an easy to reach but out of the way button to do the same thing.
Actually, maybe I won't disable it. Maybe I can just switch it to a different set of keys. I have the steam overlay set to "PAuse Break"
 
But why don't you use borderless windowed mode at your native resolution?
 
I could probably set "alt+pause break" to do the same
Then again it is windows, they don't like you to be able to have control over your computer.
 
Oh, shoot. I can't even watch their latest video, it just crashes my browser. :(
 
did you mean... "Mac"?
 
12:47 PM
@Mana I honestly have no idea who they are.
@badp No, windows.
 
@Wipqozn Indie pop/rock band who became popular especially on YouTube for doing some seriously amazing music videos
 
Actually windows isn't that bad in terms of control, it just has everything that's annoying turned on by default.
 
like inverted direction scrolling? :P
 
@Mana Do they play the game "GO"?
 
@Wipqozn No, but I do!
 
12:49 PM
@badp More like, oh snap... I can't think of the name. But the feature in windows 7, where dragging a window to the edge of the screen turns it full screen.
Protip windows: If I drag something to the edge of the screen, it's to get it out of the way without minimizing it.
 
@Wipqozn Aero Snap indeed. It's tearing a page off the tiling window managers
I find it useful.
 
@Mana I've never played GO, but I've always wanted to. I love the idea of the game, and know I would greatly enjoy it.
I was huge into Chess in high school, but have not played much since I graduated.
 
@Wipqozn Just find an online server. Kisedo is pretty good.
 
@badp I figured out how to disable it a few months back. I was so happy.
 
Jez
 
12:52 PM
@Jez Sorry dawg, I posted that yesterday. Ergo I win.
 
Jez
WIGI WIGI WIG!!
 
Actually you should scroll back to it, we posted a few different nintendo commercials. Was good times.
@Mana I just may do that.
 
Jez
thing is I thought the Zelda theme tune was the best theme tune of any game on the NES. they could've just played that
 
Yeah but then they wouldn't have connected to the hip kids of the day.
 
Jez
go find the "8" units "link" to save her
 
12:59 PM
@CruelCow Where is your avatar from? I want to say Invader Zim, but at the same time I feel that's wrong.
 
@Wipqozn It's invader zim. When he tries to fill all cows with sewage to poison the filthy human's food
 
As usual, I am correct. Excellent.
Well this is annoying.
Trying to diagnose a problem that according to a third party exists, but I have yet to see any evidence of it, nor can I recreate it.
 
@Wipqozn Diagnose for insanity.
 
@Mana Indeed.
Also I'm hungry, like, my heavens am I unusually hungry considering the time of day.
I do say I shall depart to get a muffin or something.
 
1:14 PM
hey, me too
let's go grab food together
 
Sure. Just hop on a plane to nova scotia.
 
kk, I'll be there tomorrow
 
Sounds good. See you then.
 
Me three. Although that may be because I didn't eat breakfast.
 
@Wipqozn and go get lunch ;)
 
1:24 PM
@CruelCow I just got a smoothie, far too early for lunch (10:30am).
Although the first part is a good idea. Just request more information on the problem, along with other information.
Just had an idea though.
The problem may not be what anyone thinks it is.
But something else, that make it looks like something else is the problem.
 
How do you quote in chat?
 
@CruelCow >what you wont to quote, but add a space after ">"
> for example
 
That is, unless you meant this style:
59 secs ago, by CruelCow
How do you quote in chat?
 
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Q: Any Car -game to practise manual clutch -switching with realistic key -power on and motor going down?

hhhI need to practice switching clutch in hills because I tend to fire up my clutch. Is there some good game for that? Please, add some labels such as "education" and "car".

 
@Powerlord yes that
 
1:28 PM
just paste the permalink
 
and if I want to quote two messages together?
 
This works for questions, answers, images, et cetera
 
26 mins ago, by Wipqozn
As usual, I am correct. Excellent.
 
It seems Wipqozn is embracing his evil genius side.
 
@CruelCow It doesn't let you quote two together, unfortunately... they have to be separate chat messages.
 
1:30 PM
@CruelCow No idea. Take ascreenshot?
@Powerlord Yeah, I thought that may be the case (but was uncertain). Just take a screenshot and post the permalink.
@Mana I am? Excellent.
 
Dammit. I really liked how @Wipqozn was both happy and annoyed by his correct guess
 
@CruelCow is handsome? was that the rest of that sentence?
 
builds a lunch counter with a mixing bowl torture device built in
 
And for some reason I keep hitting enter too early today
 
(Bonus points if you get the reference I just made)
 
1:32 PM
@CruelCow being early is often a problem.
 
I thought it was @Wipqozn to your name, @Wipqozn.
 
@Powerlord Evil Genius
@Wipqozn not if you don't care about others ;)
 
i.e. "I really liked how wipqozn."
 
@CruelCow Bravo! BTW, I noticed that the version of Evil Genius on Steam is 1.0... aka the crashier, buggier version of the game.
 
@Powerlord I lol'd
 
1:34 PM
AKA the version with the vanishing Research button.
 
Actually this conversation makes me want to watch Phineas & Ferb
 
Anyway, I still haven't beaten Evil Genius.
Every time I play it, as soon as I switch to the second island, I get screwed.
 
Weird, that never happened to me. Though I did fail miserably at that game because these damn soldiers kept shooting everything up.
@Powerlord Don't got immediately when the game allows you too. Save up money first
 
@Mana I prefer to think it was "@wipqozn is handsome"
Well then. I thought the issue may have been with a tracking pixel, but it turns out there isn't one (nor should they be, so that's not the problem)
So I am now convinced the problem is not with our code.
I blame everyone else.
 
@Wipqozn Sorry :(
 
2:03 PM
pats @CruelCow on the shoulder It's okay, @Wipqozn is just a big meanie.
 
Hmm, maybe /r/gamerec should have a similar design to our site. Anyone know what rights we have on our design?
 
I hate sites that do not load unless you put the "www." in front
 
@badp Oh yeah. Thank god chrome detects it most of the time and suggest the "correct" link.
 
2:50 PM
You are all boring.
 
Jez
Boss just caught me watching street fighter 2 vid on youtube :-(
 
@Jez Whoops.
 
3:07 PM
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Q: Where can an Orbital Weapons Platform be purchased?

Mark RogersI've searched much of the galaxy, probably more than 100 sectors, but I haven't found any shipyards producing orbital weapons platforms. I would love to get one of these to upgrade the defenses around my factories and to hold spare weapons and drones. Can a player purchase or build a small, med...

 
This week's drops are nothing but dupes :/
 
and then the issue magically fixed itself.
@Jez I assume he challenged you to a match?
 
And I bet you picked Guile, @Jez, and spammed Sonic Boom. You bastard.
 
@Mana No, Blanka! Not the headbite!
 
Yes! Yes!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
oh man that cartoon was the best
 
3:21 PM
Quite quite
 
Speaking of which, I played Marvel vs. Capcom 3 at a friend's place yesterday. It's insane.
 
@Mana You know you want to try the new version they're coming out with!
 
arrrrrgh only if it comes out for PC
 
Just so you can play Phoenix Wright and shout OBJECTION at enemies.
See, unlike Capcom USA, Capcom Japan actually supports the Ace Attorney series.
 
I haven't played it. I haven't been given significant enough reason to look into it.
 
3:24 PM
By the way, Grace, do you have a DS?
 
@Powerlord Really fused that the next Edgeworth game isn't coming states-side, arentcha?
 
@GraceNote Yes.
 
@Mana What a delightful non-sequitur. Yes, I have a DS.
 
And I've noted at the very end of that thread that if the fan translation is completed before Capcom announces anything about a US localization that I'm going to pirate the game.
 
Okay, this is an amazing visual novel/puzzle game for it. I would highly recommend it, and also highly recommend not reading the comments on that video.
 
3:26 PM
(fan translation is now on case 2, but if it stands to form, each case is longer than the previous ones)
 
Wow, Nintendo's chopping the 3DS price down to like $170
 
@Mana I was just playing through that again last week. :)
@FallenAngelEyes Yup, which shows how well it wasn't selling.
 
asdf IT'S SO GOOD.
 
@Mana I can't access that site here
 
@GraceNote You can't access... Youtube?
 
3:27 PM
Going for a title might be a wise choice, as a result.
 
Oh, okay. Well, the game is 999 (Nine Hours, Nine Persons, Nine Doors)
 
@Powerlord You can't access Gaming.
 
@GraceNote Right, but that's because gaming sites are blocked by policy.
 
@Mana Oh, that game.
 
@Mana Nine Hours, Nine Persons, Nine Doors
 
3:27 PM
er
yeah whoops
 
at least that's what the vid is labeled as
 
@Powerlord And in our case, YouTube is blocked by policy.
 
999 is a great game, although it has a few gory bits.
If Youtube was blocked by policy, we couldn't have seen our old governor's addresses. Go figure why it's not blocked. ;)
 
Different blocks for different... glocks.
 
cringe
 
3:29 PM
Anyway, Melissa's here, so time to go.
 
Bye!
 
I've not heard of that game, I'll put it on my radar, thanks @Mana
 
no problem~
 
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Q: What are these percentages at different locations and how do I increase them?

The Communist DuckI was exploring Just Cause 2 after the tutorial missions, and I found that doing things like blowing up the gas station in the town next to the guy's house or picking up weapon parts increased the percentage to the location. What is this percentage? How do I earn it? (i.e. What are the ways I...

 
3:49 PM
Did anyone watch the walking dead?
Because a fan made a opening theme to it out of the comic, it's so much better than the one they used.
 
@RonanForman Yeah, I've seen that vid, I really liked it
I'm a couple issues behind on reading now, but I've read the whole series pretty much
 
@FallenAngelEyes I haven't read the comics, are they as good as the TV show
 
They're better
Though I read the series before watching it, so YMMV
 
That was a really sick fanvid.
 
4:11 PM
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Q: What are the dangers of your PS3 shutting down when it's not supposed to?

AubergineVarious PlayStation 3 operations prompt you not to shut down your console while they are in progress. For example, you are to avoid shutting down your console while performing one of the following: Updating the firmware Installing games/patches Saving a game's progress Some of these operation...

 
@Mana Fairly enjoyable (have not played in awhile though)>
 
4:26 PM
user image
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That is a cool effect
 
4:37 PM
Now the problem is playing with it.
 
@badp huh?
 
5:11 PM
So, I saw that one of my coworkers signed up to bring in for our Potluck breakfast a week from Friday.
OK, I must have hit Reply like a long time ago and forgotten.
 
@Powerlord I do that some times. Or post an answer where a paragraph right in the middle just cuts out in the middle of a sentence.
 
@RonanForman Goodd ol' Polarize.
 
My get rich quick scheme is really easy:
1. Collect underpants

3. Profit!
 
@Powerlord 2. ???
 
@ArdaXi Exactly!
 
5:17 PM
@ArdaXi It's so ??? that it's not even ???
 
The format of the meme is
1. X
2. ???
3. Profit.
 
So, I heard @badp wants me to collect Engineer crates for him, apparently forgetting that Engineer is my second-most played class.
 
You can't just leave the ??? line out.
I don't care what South Park made out of it. You do 4chan memes right.
 
@ArdaXi That assumes we're following the meme to the T
 
@ArdaXi Oh right, I missed where Grace said cuts out in the middle of a sentence
 
5:18 PM
Rather than, say
 
I just cut it out in the middle of a list. ;)
 
@GraceNote Perfect execution.
 
(and yes, I know it wasn't an answer, but... details, details!)
 
@Powerlord He seemed to want the crates in general, what with his vanishing and all.
 
Gotta love the weather around here. We have nice, sunny, beautiful days... up until about 20 minutes before I leave work, and then have thunderstorms the rest of the day and night.
Oh, and it's repeating for today.
 
5:21 PM
@Powerlord That's pretty much hilarious. +1 to mother nature.
 
8 hours ago, by badp
Would you like some metal in exchange for the first strange Engineer crate you'll get, when I'll get back?
 
@Powerlord Ah, didn't see him direct it
@Powerlord Sounds like my weather for the past month
Barring last week, which was "Beat the moisture out of you" blazing hot.
 
That message was actually to Thomas, I think... he'd directed a message shortly before that to me, but it apparently didn't include the word "crate"
 
For the record I'm too cheap to buy keys to open crates.
So if anyone is ever looking for crates, I have no problem trading them away for cheap.
 
Oh wait, no, that was directed to me as well, in the previous message.
8 hours ago, by badp
@Thomas, @Powerlord, are you going to be able to play during those weeks?
I want Strange Engineer items. Strange Huntsman for Sniper would be nice, too. Strange Medic items... likely not going to bother.
 
5:24 PM
@Powerlord How do you tell if it is a strange crate? the series number?
 
@Wipqozn Yup.
Series #19-21 and 23-25 are "Strange" crates (i.e. crates that drop Strange items).
Likely, all future crates will be too, unless Valve pulls an "all-paints" crate again.
 
How much metal would one of these crates be worth?
 
Or one of the limited time crates.
@Wipqozn Varies. Best bet would be to check the prices on the Crate Market on the TF2 Trade forum on SPUF.
I bought series 24 for a variety of different amounts.
Cheapest sold them for the same price as other crate series.
 
I will, thanks.
Yeah I don't bother with them. I don't feel like paying $2.50 to open a crate.
 
The Strange Items have definitely brought up the market price, though.
Some more than others.
I don't think the Pyro crate is that popular, but the Spy one is.
 
5:29 PM
Well if I find any strange ones, I'll pop a message in here. Give you guys first crack at them.
 
Probably because Strange Knife is really popular.
 
How strange.
 
Not really. It serves as a backstab counter.
Granted, I vary between two knives, and there's no Strange version of the other one.
:/
 
How strange.
 
I want a Strange Your Eternal Reward, darn it.
Logically they'll never make a strange version.
 
5:31 PM
That's an awful strange thing to want.
 
If you know what YER does, you might understand why.
 
You disguise as the back stabbed enemy. A very strange weapon.
 
For those of you who aren't familiar with TF2, YER disguises you as the person you backstab, and the kill is completely silent. Also, the kill doesn't show up in the kill feed for the enemy team.
(Your own team still sees it, though)
 
But it disables your disguise kit, which I dislike. You really need to rely on your cloak. To say the least, it's very strange.
 
BUT, Strange weapons pop up a box every time they level up. Which goes counter to the "doesn't show up in the kill feed" mechanic.
 
5:34 PM
They might add a delay to it for YER, show it at your death, or the end of a round. It would be very strange if they didn't.
 
@Wipqozn OK, see, the horse is already dead. You don't need to keep beating it.
 
@Powerlord Why would you beat a dead horse? That's a strange thing to do.
 
@Wipqozn That's a thing to do?
 
@Powerlord I've always considered bacon to be a very strange thing.
But yeah, I'll stop now (strange as it may sound).
 
@Wipqozn Yes, is a very thing.
 
5:38 PM
I really wish I could remember how to link tags. I really should paste it somewhere.
Since I always forget.
 
So, Ubisoft hasn't learned their lesson and put "always connected" DRM into a new game.
 
Which game?
 
@Wipqozn Driver: San Francisco.
This is in addition to the games it'd already been in, such as Assassin's Creed 2.
 
I thought people stopped caring about the Driver series years ago.
 
Well, the thing is... they'd removed this system for Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood.
and now it has come back.
 
5:40 PM
Didn't everyone still buy ACII though?
If everyone bought it, no reason they would stop.
Very few companies care if they piss off their customers, so long as they keep buying their products.
 
@Wipqozn I did mention it only affected the PC version?
No, apparently I didn't. Whoops.
Anyway, it only affects the PC versions of these games. Capcom is the only company evil enough to apply it to console releases.
Bionic Commando Rearmed 2 being one of them, and the PS3 version was completely unavailable during the month of May because of the PSN outage.
 
I have to say, my opinion of Capcom is getting lower by the day.
 
@Powerlord Apparently you forget I said "first"
 
6:19 PM
@Powerlord I meant you as well. It sucks that engie crates will drop squarely in the three weeks I won't be able to play through
@Powerlord You're assuming they're going to only make strange weapons that make sense. Unlike, what do I know, strange charge targes.
 
@badp You can still kill people by hitting them with the Targe, it's just not likely.
However, Strange Your Eternal Reward would break one of its mechanics.
Unless the Strange notification was adjusted as previously mentioned.
 
To be fair, they only know you just got a YER kill, not who you killed.
also it doesn't have to be just a backstab.
 
@badp I know, it's just far more likely to be a backstab.
@badp If it is a backstab, they just have to spin and spot the corpse fading out to know who the Spy is.
 
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I was glad today to kill the sniper who'd just jarate'd me with two consecutive hits with the enforcer
although... two consecutive hits with the enforcer? Really? That sniper had all rights to complain about it on alltalk!
 
6:26 PM
That depends on if you let the gun cooldown first or not.
The revolver type weapons (and pistols too for that matter) always shoot straight down the sight on the first shot.
 
Enforcer, not the headshotting one.
Oh. I didn't let the gun cooldown.
 
Then the second shot would have gone randomly off center. Of course, that means you're still extremely likely to hit him at close range.
 
eh, it was middle range.
 
Then he got unlucky!
 
So is deadstabbing frequent?
 
6:28 PM
@badp Deadstabbing?
 
Your arm raises, you click, your arm lowers, you hear the flesh sound from the knife hitting, and then you're dead at the hands of the enemy right behind me and my target is alive.
 
@badp Sadly more than you'd think.
The client side plays the sound before the server processes the stab.
 
Yeah, happened a lot today.
 
Higher ping also means it's more likely to happen.
 
I guess 160 ping doesn't help there
 
6:30 PM
Fun fact: Java 7 was released today.
 
Yeah, and the press release gives no link to, or summary of a changelog
 
Yay, binary literals are supported now.
 
You probably don't want to advertise it too much when your way-overdue upgrade contains mostly boring, minor changes
 
6:44 PM
Nimbus moved to a javax namespace now.
 
also I love how they mention how much they worked with the community, even though they basically told every other major player in the process to suck it
 
Hey, they said worked with, not cooperated with
2
Or collaborated with
Or paid attention to
 
Bleah, meeting
 
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