The Bridge

Powerlord

00:12

Fine Valve, I'm killing my TF2 Beta server and reinstalling from scratch. Hopefully this'll get the bugs out of it.

LessPop_MoreFizz

00:38

damnlag.com/cnn-3ds-doesnt-look-as-good-as-a-ps3

Nintendo 3DS: The Graphics aren't as good as a PS3.

2

Also, the fact that this guy 'grew up on Halo' and is working at CNN now makes me feel like an aging underachiever.

Brant

Android.SE's new design is live, and their error page is awesome.

Mana

So awesome.

Tim Stone

01:10

Apparently I upgraded myself with future-seeing powers:

in The Tavern (General) on Meta Stack Overflow Chat, 2 days ago, by Tim Stone

►

@LessPop_MoreFizz It also does games that are part real world, part make believe (he guesses) :D

LessPop_MoreFizz

@TimStone Yeah, he's pretty dumb.

I have been reading BetterMyths all night.

this is the best Mythology Related Website ever.

bettermyths.blogspot.com/2010/10/what-fuck-loki.html

> then frigga calls all the gods together, and she is like guys what the fuck, who is plotting to kill my son, and they are like what, we like Baldur why would we do that, what are we some kind of band of scheming murdering assholes?, and loki is like I am, and everyone is like shut the fuck up Loki

Tim Stone

lmao, oh boy

> like have you ever played katamari damacy, it is like one of those fucking lists the king of all cosmos rattles off during the loading screen for every level like someone gave acid to a random number generator and hit it with a shovel

Ahahaha

Good ol' Katamari

LessPop_MoreFizz

bettermyths.blogspot.com/2010/07/bonus.html

2

> so the moral of the story is if at first you don't succeed try crossdressing

Feeds

04:08

2

Bob

0

Q: In M.U.G.E.N, how do I resize the background in the select screen page?

Hopefully you guys know what M.U.G.E.N is, but I'm going to explain to the people that don't. It's basically a two-dimensional fighting game where you put your own fighters, stages, music, backgrounds and so on. Anyway, recently I got the Black Rock Shooter Screenpack. Everything was fine, but th...

pc fighting-game

Feeds

06:39

Stack Overflow Blog: Welcome Valued Associate Josh Heyer

Posted by Jeff Atwood on March 24th, 2011

Our community team has been growing by leaps and bounds:

We’re serious about building community — and that means having a full time team dedicated to you. The community team’s role is to participate alongside everyone and help come up with ways to for us, and our Q&A software, to serve our community better.

I’m pleased to announce that, under the leadership of Robert Cartaino, we’re bringing a fourth member into the community team: Josh Heyer, aka Shog9, from Colorado. …

Bob

08:40

stares

0

Q: What Overcharge Capability means in Borderlands

Certain Shields in Borderlands have "Overcharge Capability" as their special power. What exactly does it mean?

borderlands

Bob

09:04

0

Q: xbox360 slim cables. cant connect hdmi and audio at the same time

hello, i recently got an xbox slim and i have some troubles connecting it to my monitor and stereo. for the monitor i got a hdmi2dvi cable and now i can see something at least, but for the audio i have this problem. the big cable with the audio connectors that came with the xbox has a part, tha...

xbox-360 video-cable

0

Q: Do both players need the Lara Croft GoL DLC to play online?

Hi, If I buy the Guardian of Light DLC, can I invite my friends to join my game without them having bought it, or do they need to purchase it as well? I was more interested when I thought they were just puzzle maps as they're some of the best co-op bits in the game, but I doubt it would be wort...

dlc online lara-croft-gol

Yi Jiang

10:35

Seriously @Mana? Why did you edit that obviously spam/stupid/not an answer answer?

fail badp

10:59

WHY ARE PEOPLE REFUSING TO PLAY ON EGYPT PART 3

THEY ARE RUNNING AGAINST THE WALLS

I DO NOT GET IT

Oh obviously

They're bots and they can't get through the door

@YiJiang Flag weight for everybody \o/

fail badp

11:31

mmm. Pizza.

Brant

13:20

@Bob lolwat?

Powerlord

@failbadp Must be a bad .nav or .ain for cp_egypt... those control AI bot behavior.

Mana

14:01

@YiJiang shrug I felt like toning down the content until a mod destroyed it. Sorry.

Yi Jiang

@Mana Nothing to apologise for, but isn't that more than a little pointless?

Mana

It is entirely pointless and simply something I did out of extreme boredom.

Bob

1

Q: Punishing the banshee play on Scrap Station TVT

Let's say I'm 90% sure that the player is going to make 2-3 banshees with Cloak on Scrap Station. I know I have a lot of options here, but I'm interested in what the community would do. Here's a list of what I'd usually do: Grab a fast E-bay and throw up 2 turrets. Favor marines over mara...

starcraft-2 terran

Powerlord

@Mana You did it for the lulz?

Mana

pretty much

Powerlord

14:31

zzz

You guys are boring.

Bob

14:42

1

Q: Splash damage to burrowed units in Starcraft2?

In Starcraft 1 I vaguely remember that burrowed units wouldn't take splash damage (but would take damage from Psi-Storm), and units under dark swam did take splash damage, but you could avoid this by being burrowed. In StarCraft 2 I haven't seen any information on if there are any differences be...

starcraft-2

0

Q: What is a "seed" in a StarCraft II tournament?

All over several StarCraft II progaming websites I read about "seeds" being invited to tournaments. What exactly is a "seed" as far as gaming tournaments are concerned? Thanks, Dharma

starcraft-2 tournament

Powerlord

flags both for moderator attention with the reason "too many starcraft-2 questions."

4

GnomeSlice

@Powerlord Yes, please.

Powerlord

So, I was editing the Source Mapchooser Extended plugin yesterday to backport a change from my dev version to the stable version.

Oh wait, I might have talked about this already.

15 hours ago, by Powerlord

I just pushed a new version of Mapchooser Extended to fix issues with KillTimer being called instead of the timer naturally ending.

Whoops, I did.

Granted, it's counter-intuitive, because its Action handler has to return Plugin_Stop to stop the timer.

whacks SourceMod Devs Even if it's the same constant value, give it a new name, like... Timer_Stop

fail badp

Did I mention I never managed to kill anybody with that damn scatter gun? Maybe it's the ping, maybe it's me, but...

Powerlord

14:58

@failbadp The scattergun is... weirdly... a close-range weapon. Well, it does damage at longer range, but it isn't until you get in close range that said damage is reasonable.

Also, how its shots work depends on if the server has tf_use_fixed_weaponspreads on or not.

fail badp

@Powerlord O_RLY

Powerlord

If said cvar is on, they shoot in a 3x3 square. If it's off (which is the default), all 9 pellets from it shoot in random directions in a cone-shape in front of you.

11 pellets if you're using the Force-a-Nature.

fail badp

meh, I know I'm cycling all classes and I still get consistently owned right now

Powerlord

But, because they spread out in a cone, less of them hit the father you are away.

@failbadp Did I mention that TF2 operates a lot like Rock, Paper, Scissors? :P

Like... Sniper beats Heavy, Heavy beats Scout, Scout beats Sniper...

Well, assuming that the Sniper can't headshot the Scout... they're harder to headshot than the other classes. :P

fail badp

and whatever I do I get beaten

I have 5 dominations right now

Powerlord

15:04

While the Flare Gun is tempting as Pyro, it takes away your Shotgun... your best weapon against other Pyros.

fail badp

well, the game's over, so I can't get 6

Powerlord

@failbadp Yes, I saw that the first time.

Unfortunately, a lot of classes have a learning curve, even ones you think wouldn't.

Also, Spies and Snipers when you're playing Soldier/Heavy suck.

fail badp

meh, I usually go medic and do decently

This ga--- HEADSHOT

Powerlord

With Medic, at least you can get revenge/domination by healing.

@failbadp: OK, what map are you on now?

(I was going to suggest a class based on map)

fail badp

Freight

Powerlord

15:09

Having said that, medics can't hurt unless you have like 3 or more already on a 12-person team..

Hmm... defensive Engineers can be OK... Offensive, too. Snipers are really good near the center point, but less-so at the other four.

Medics are a must for taking the final point if there's a defense.

Oh, I almost forgot... Huntsman snipers can be pretty good on Freight, too, but enemy Heavies kinda put a stop to those.

fail badp

Total of 2 points :D

Powerlord

If you do choose another class, don't forget that there are water routes from above the second points to the middle area.

Water routes tend to be favored by Spies, though.

Bob

0

Q: Which rune is better for a Death Knight tank?

I just hit 82 on my Death Knight and am tanking normal 5-man dungeons at the moment, with intent to move on to heroics in a few weeks. My question is which rune is best on my weapon: Rune of the Stoneskin Gargoyle, Rune of SwordShattering, or something else. Stoneskin Gargoyle looks awfully dec...

world-of-warcraft

Powerlord

Oh right, one important note about water: Several maps have bridges that go over water areas. In Well and Freight, those bridges are close to the water, but still up far enough for you to surface so you don't drown.

Also, don't underestimate the damage you can do with mini-sentries as Engineer with Gunslinger... especially if you're running around shooting them with your pistol at the same time.

Arda Xi

15:25

Hunh. I don't visit for a week, and I earn more rep than when I actively participate on the site.

Powerlord

makes note to downvote Arda

Oh wait, downvotes only remove two rep.

So, I saw I got the Enthusiast badge this morning. Only 70 more days to Fanatic!

If I remember to visit every day that is.

I should set a random question as my browser's home page, or write a script that visits one or two pages with my login credentials every day. :P

Arda Xi

I had like 200 consecutive days, but I really had to take a break.

I've got both Enthusiast and Fanatic already though.

Powerlord

I tend not to visit the site on weekdays unless I'm continuing a conversation here that I started at work.

Arda Xi

Well, I'd been a bit too enthusiastic on the site, I guess.

Powerlord

StackOverflow I tend to not visit on weekends... except the one time I was trying to get the badge, and got tripped up by thinking that days were in my local time.

Brant

15:36

That's cost me the gold badge twice already. I'm glad they added the UTC time to the UserDropdown(tm) NonEnvelopeMenu(R).

fail badp

Just pin the tab

pl_repository_rc3

Powerlord

@failbadp Don't think I've played that one before.

I've played pl_aperturescience_iiia before though!

Bob

15:52

0

Q: which seven kingdoms buy?

Due to this week end sales (http://www.gog.com/en/promo/enlight_games/). I'd like to buy one seven kingdoms game. which one of the 2 is better? I'm more interested in management than in combat

strategy

fail badp

@Powerlord If you defend, the last respawn room has a 25 seconds respawn timer

a 25 seconds respawn timer

Powerlord

@failbadp Sounds stupid to me.

Yi Jiang

@Bob Game rec!

Powerlord

Even Valve's default varies between 15 and 20 on symmetric or defense on non-symmetric types.

(It respawns people in waves)

fail badp

Is there a limit on the amount of people per class?

GnomeSlice

16:07

@failbadp What happened to not needing the ghetto login link anymore?

0

A: Name of old mech arcade game

I used to play at the one in Chicago before it closed. They offered two games: BattleTech and Red Planet. BattleTech was typically either free-for-all or team-play (up to 8 players total), and offered a variety of environmental options such as fog, nighttime (there was a infrared mode you cou...

^ Is this even an answer?? It looks more like a review... :S

fail badp

@GnomeSlice 'clickety'

Bob

0

Q: How to make NPC's in multiplayer

Hi I'm a OP on my friends server And i'm wondering how to make NPC's He told me that it's a vanilla thing i think Hope some1 can help anakinkp

minecraft

GnomeSlice

@failbadp Oh, I thought you meant that that was no longer needed anymore.

Brant

16:22

@GraceNote is on a network-wide meta retagging spree today

fail badp

So let's sort out the spoils of war

GnomeSlice

16:42

identify-this-game get.

0

A: Can't remember the name of a point and click edutainment game

I believe you're thinking of The Fennels Figure Math, from 1996. Secondary link & Image source I remember playing this when I was younger. I don't recall ever actually finishing it; some of the puzzles were fairly difficult! Hope this helps. :)

I don't see why so many people on Gaming dislike those questions.

Aardvark

most of us are engineers and engineers hate ambiguity

plus, they provide very little value in terms of finding the question in the future

fail badp

do they?

GnomeSlice

I'll have to read up on your reasoning later, I have to run for an appointment immediately.

Aardvark

someone's recollections of a game are not specific enough (usually) to come up in a search result

okie dokie :)

fail badp

they help though

Aardvark

16:49

I agree, I'm a huge advocate of it... but I can understand why people don't like them

I'm of the impression that being able to help a single person is value enough to the site. Maybe that person will become an active member and help someone else or ask other good questions

fail badp

For some reason we've gone above AU in visits by 1.5k

Aardvark

AU?

fail badp

Ask Ubuntu

Aardvark

wow thats impressive

Mana

@badp woah what really?

wait, does that mean our visits have been increasing or AU's have been dropping?

Aardvark

16:52

must be Mana's tasteful handling of game-rec

fail badp

@Mana I imagine; they'll gain again traffic in less than a month tho with 11.04

it's a big release too, with direct links to AskUbuntu.com

Mana

...:(

why can't there be direct links to Geesee inside of PC video games

whyyyyyyy

Aardvark

lol the 'help' button should bring them here

fail badp

You can visit Gaming with the overlay!

In other news, I R ROXXORZ

Mana

'gratz on ur roxxorz

Aardvark

16:58

is it just me being unbelievably colorblind or is your score impossible to read

Tim Stone

@Aardvark Oh wow, that is pretty illegible, heh.

Aardvark

thank god, I'm colorblind to virtually everything... Glad it wasn't just me

fail badp

@TimStone Have you tried 'View full size'?

Tim Stone

Yeah, the 8 is still pretty hard to make out.

fail badp

At any rate the 8 wasn't the point

Tim Stone

17:06

Not impossible, it's just not particularly clear.

fail badp

The point was the row of icons near the scores on the other team

Powerlord

@failbadp <late>Not by default, but servers can be modded to do it</late>

fail badp

That means, how much, at least 6 kills in a row without me being able to pay back from each?

@Powerlord Thanks, at least I know it's not a default

Powerlord

Valve does have support for class restrictions, but only if the server is running in Tournament mode.

Powerlord

17:23

Valve has support for bacon, but someone has to cook it.

By the way, I heard a nasty rumor: The Firefox crew plans on releasing more versions of Firefox in order to get Microsoft to send them more cakes.

Yi Jiang

@Powerlord Well, it didn't work for Chrome, so... :P

Arda Xi

@YiJiang Can't say they didn't try.

(Oh great. Linux decides that dead keys must apply for every key, even if there is no associated glyph)

Powerlord

@YiJiang Right, but the IE team sends cake to the Firefox team every time they ship a major version. I'm not aware of the Chrome team getting one.

Bob

0

Q: Register Revenge of the Titans on Steam

Can I register on Steam my copy of Revenge of the Titans, obtained buying the Humble Indie Bundle 2?

steam revenge-of-the-titans

Powerlord

That's the Firefox 4 cake. :P

Arda Xi

17:33

The font rendering is a little off. obscure-reference

Yi Jiang

@Powerlord I know, that was a joke too, of course the Chrome team doesn't get one

They've been baking each other cakes since, I dunno, the first version of Firefox?

Powerlord

@ArdaXi That's because you have 3D rendering enabled. If you go into about:firefox, then scroll down to...

@YiJiang Firefox 2, I think.

Arda Xi

@Powerlord I included that tag on purpose. It's an old joke about that cake.

Powerlord

However, Netscape and the IE Team had more... interesting trades.

Ronan Forman

if firefox 4 only for win7 like ie?

Powerlord

17:35

@RonanForman Nope, it has an XP version.

Arda Xi

@RonanForman Also Mac and Linux.

Ronan Forman

but it doesn't auto update

Powerlord

Firefox 4 for WinXP tries to use Direct3D to do acceleration instead of Direct2D or so I've heard.

Yi Jiang

@RonanForman It does, it just doesn't silently auto-update. Minor versions are pushed out automatically, and major ones after one or two months after release

Powerlord

You can still go to Help, Check for Updates to see it. Provided you have the latest 3.6 release.

If you don't have the latest 3.6 release, it'll offer 3.6.16 instead.

Ronan Forman

17:38

got it now... it looks very chromey

Powerlord

@RonanForman If you have menus turned off, it looks even closer to Opera 11.

Ronan Forman

it still can't import information from chrome

Bob

0

Q: Which is the highest point in Panau?

I need to get the achievement 'Top of the World'. Which is the highest point in Panau?

achievements just-cause-2

Powerlord

@Bob murder woods.

Ronan Forman

@Powerlord i see

Powerlord

17:41

Honestly, though, I don't know if Opera 11's look was copied from Chrome or vice versa.

fail badp

@Powerlord I think Chrome was inspired by Opera, then Opera was... more inspired by Chrome.

Arda Xi

Chrome was inspired by Opera. Opera copied Chrome.

Powerlord

I do know that when Chrome was announced, its draw was really something like 10 features other various browsers had combined into one.

I even made a blog post about said features, iirc.

I'd have to look for it.

Ronan Forman

I'm sticking with chrome

Yi Jiang

I remembered when I first tried Chrome, it had trouble handling transparent pngs, and I swore when I saw the effect of that

Powerlord

17:47

Speaking of bad first impressions of programs, has Windows Media Player ever sorted out its issues with VBR MP3s?

Last version I tried to use was whatever version shipped with Vista, and it still had issues with VBR mp3s.

fail badp

Don't worry, Windows Media Player is still a bad program.

It's better than Winamp perhaps.

Powerlord

Winamp at least has the Windowshade button.

Yi Jiang

The text-shadow bug that afflicted Chrome when I first used it still affects it now. Yeah...

Powerlord

So I can get it out of my way but still have the controls to mess with them.

Tim Stone

@YiJiang The same issue that badp had where it just says "Naw...I don't feel like rendering this text anymore"?

Powerlord

17:50

Oh yay, I get to waste my time rewriting some code another developer removed... because some of our other code changed, I can't just revert his changes.

Yi Jiang

@TimStone No, the one on Windows where it looks like it stops anti-aliasing text-shadow'd text. The effect can be pretty horrendous sometimes

I was sufficiently annoyed that I went and starred the issue to receive updates on the status of the bug at the end of last year

Tim Stone

@YiJiang Ah, yeah, this is a Windows-specific bug too. I'm not sure if you saw when he was having the problem, but basically if you use particular fonts with text-shadow, it runs into an error with certain glyphs and stops rendering the text, heh.

Yi Jiang

Though it looks like there's finally some progress after almost two years sitting on the bug list

Updates:
    Status: Assigned
    Owner: [email protected]

Comment #49 on issue 23440 by [email protected]: Wrong text-shadow blur rendering
code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=23440

Tim Stone

At least it's better off than those toString() bugs in Firefox.

Yi Jiang

@TimStone The one I had which I asked on SO should be fixed with Firefox 4

The one you had, well...

Tim Stone

17:57

Oh, they actually are fixing it? Nifty. I hadn't kept up with it, since BugZilla is BugZilla.

Yi Jiang

@TimStone I'd still prefer it to Chrome's flat issues list

Bob

0

Q: In M.U.G.E.N, how do I resize the stages?

Well, I recently asked a question on how to resize the background in the selection menu, but now I have this question to ask. Out of my 50 stages, about 15 or so are too zoomed in. This causes the fighters to appear floating in the air when fighting. For example, a stage was supposed to take pla...

pc fighting-game mugen

Tim Stone

@YiJiang I suppose, but there's no convenient star for me to click :P

Yi Jiang

@TimStone There is a voting system, and a mailing list. The two are separate

Tim Stone

Yeah, I'm not a huge mailing list fan.

Yi Jiang

18:01

Though voting on bugs in either system has around nil effect to whatever's on the developer's list of stuff that needs fixing

Tim Stone

nods

Powerlord

I wonder when Mozilla will get around to fixing the issue with the HTML4 <col> tag not supporting the align attribute or its equivalent CSS.

It's only been in Bugzilla for... 12 years now.

or is it 13.

They may have finally closed it as WONTFIX, which incidentally means Firefox is lying if they ever try to claim 100% compatibility with HTML4.

and HTML3 for that matter.

Yi Jiang

Is it this one? bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=915

The bug id is suspiciously small, coming in at only three digits

Powerlord

@YiJiang If that site will load for me, I'd tell you.

Yi Jiang

Comment 354 nidaisfree 2010-10-07 08:19:33 PDT
Happy 12th anniversary! Only one more year to go to become a teen!

> Bug 915 - implement inheritance of alignment attributes from columns (align, valign, char, charoff, (lang, dir)?)

Yup, definitely looks like the one you're talking about

Powerlord

18:09

Yup, likely it is!

Incidentally, despite CSS1 requiring table cell tags to support alignment stuff, it conspicuously disappeared before the CSS2 spec was released.

Mozilla browsers remain the only ones I've seen to not support it.

Yi Jiang

It was closed and then reopened; there's a (according to the comments) a half working patch entered in 2007. The dev who last commented noted that a significant amount of work will still need to be done to make this work

This comment here bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=915#c353 noted that none of the other browser have implemented this

Powerlord

@YiJiang That would be wrong. Let me see if I still have screenshots of one of my 2005 test pages.

Sorry, 2006 test pages

Yi Jiang

At least, it points to what looks like equivalent unresolved bugs on the Webkit, KHTML and Chromium issues list

Powerlord

IE7: rbemrose.com/images/screenshots/piano-af-ie7.png

Opera 9: rbemrose.com/images/screenshots/piano-af-opera.png

FireFox... 2, I think: rbemrose.com/images/screenshots/piano-af-firefox.png

Note how Opera and IE7 both center the Sequenced By and File Size columns while Firefox doesn't.

Yi Jiang

The Chromium bug report says that it works in IE

Right, so IE and Opera has this, Chrome, Safari and Firefox doesn't... ?

Powerlord

18:21

@YiJiang Yes, and at the time I took those, there were no Webkit browsers on Windows.

Those screenshots predate Chrome by two years. :P

It's also important to remember that KHTML, Safari, and Chrome are all different versions of the same rendering engine.

Yi Jiang

I thought Safari, eh... yeah, first Windows Safari version was 3, which is in 2007

Powerlord

So, if one doesn't support it, naturally the other two won't either.

@YiJiang Those screenshots are from 2006.

Yi Jiang

Not entirely, but mostly true, yes

Powerlord

I had a cheeseburger for lunch, but it was missing one important ingredient... want to guess which one?

Aardvark

burger?

Powerlord

18:30

@Aardvark You don't know me very well, do you? :D

Yi Jiang

Erh... bacon?

Aardvark

@power guess not, I don't care whats missing as long as theres plenty of meat

Powerlord

@YiJiang Bingo! ;)

@Aardvark There's a running gag where I'll just randomly start talking about bacon when I'm bored. I also usually put it in chat as a tag instead of a word.

Aardvark

would you perhaps be one of our redditor users? :)

Powerlord

I rarely visit Reddit's... site.

...but if you play TF2 on Reddit's Great Lakes server, you've likely seen me there. Sometimes on Midwest, too, but not as often.

fail badp

18:35

Today I added a few more 24/7's to my blacklist

It's now grown to 130/510 servers.

All pretty much full, although one has to wonder how many of those players are bots and how many are actual humans.

My bots answer is woefully inadequate :/

Powerlord

You don't see bots that often in TF2, namely because the game wasn't originally built for them.

Yi Jiang

In the same vain as Adjustment Team, I've now pulled a copy of The Machine Stops, for your enjoyment

Powerlord

Does it have any bacon?

fail badp

@Powerlord Oh, you'd be surprised. I surely was this morning.

Yi Jiang

@Powerlord Eh... no

fail badp

18:41

I'm going to try and idle on clan servers now. They'll have dead times, they'll be much harder to play on, they'll be on the wrong continent but at least they have actual humans.

Powerlord

@failbadp The game does support bots now, but most maps don't have AI nodes or navigation meshes... strangely, TF2 tends to have both files. I'm not sure if they're supposed to work together or what.

You can have the game autogenerate one of the two, but as you noticed on cp_egypt, it sometimes gets them wrong.

GnomeSlice

@ArdaXi No, Rockmelt copied chrome.

Powerlord

Ah yes, Rockmelt. Isn't that by Marc Andreessen, the guy behind Netscape?

Arda Xi

18:56

@Powerlord IIRC one is for NPCs (like enemies in HL2) and one is for bots (NPCs playing like humans)

Powerlord

@ArdaXi Well, HL2DM has .ain files, TF2 appears to have .nav files.

Arda Xi

Exactly. No bots in HL2DM.

Powerlord

@ArdaXi I thought HL2DM did support bots.

Arda Xi

@Powerlord Only third-party.

L4D however, uses .nav meshes exclusively, for the bots. The infected don't need any advice on where to go.

Which makes making L4D maps much easier than most Source mods, since you don't need to map out a graph throughout the entire map.

Powerlord

So, I need to decide what to work on next in mapchooser_extended. Basically, I've taken a copy of the SourceMod Mapchooser and I'm reimplementing the features mapchooser extended added to it.

The obvious part is done, changing how the timer works.

Arda Xi

19:02

So you're recreating the entire project from scratch?

Powerlord

@ArdaXi Basically.

Arda Xi

Err, why?

Powerlord

@ArdaXi Because it's a horrible mess that randomly makes calls across include files.

Arda Xi

@Powerlord Ah.

Powerlord

The work I've done rewriting it already allows me to split the sounds module into a separate plugin.

Basically, there are issues now with how it does text output.

There's a problem when %%%% still doesn't display a % because of how many different layers of printf it's passing through.

Arda Xi

19:05

It's incredibly layered to start with.

Powerlord

There are also issues of it using the server's translation language rather than deciding based on the user's locale (however that work in SourceMod)

Arda Xi

A Sourcemod plugin is hosted by Sourcemod, which is hosted by Metamod, which is hosted by Source, which is hosted by Gabe knows how many layers, which is hosted on the OS.

Sourcemod seems like quite a mess to me.

Powerlord

@ArdaXi Well, I'm not sure how much processing MetaMod actually does for SourceMod.

I'm too lazy to check to see if all MetaMod does is load other plugins into the game engine.

Anyway, the next thing I should work on is likely how the maplist is displayed.

Oh right, I need to look up how to load external files into an array in SourceMod.

Wait... maybe I can make the "official map list" functionality a separate plugin and not have to load it from a file... just make it an optional dependency.

Basically, I want to move it out of the plugin itself so it can be updated without having to update the entire plugin.

Bob

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Q: Finding all the mooses. Er ... moose? Meese?

I'm unable to find all of the moose throughout the campaign in Magicka. Where are all the moose located? The goal is to get the "King's Quest" achievement.

pc steam achievements magicka

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@Powerlord Remember to implement jerk mode

where you pretend you listen to the vote, then write "Your feedback is appreciated. Continuing as planned..."

Powerlord

19:20

@failbadp That would be a hilarious one to add.

Actually, there's at least one cvar that's going away. Simply because it's not necessary any more since the functionality is identical to that provided by SourceMod 1.3.

And SourceMod 1.3 is several years old now, iirc.

Hell, I don't think there are even any games you can run from SourceMod 1.2 now, thanks to Valve moving them all to the OrangeBox engine, which causes errors in SourceMod 1.3.4ish until 1.3.5 and MetaMod 1.8.2 came out.

Arda Xi

@failbadp Ooh. And if you turn it off: "As part of a previously mentioned required test protocol, we can no longer lie to you."

(By the way, chat is a lot nicer on Chrome on Linux. No idea why.)

I always have the idea that most anything is smoother on Linux.

fail badp

Nicer than what?

Arda Xi

Windows.

fail badp

Font rendering, especially of those fancy fonts, is superior.

Arda Xi

But also the effect where the message is posted to the room is smoother.

Powerlord

19:36

@ArdaXi When the testing is over, you will be... missed!

That Companion Cube is a Spy!

Arda Xi

Feb 15 at 21:17, by Arda Xi

Arda Xi reminds you that badp will never threaten to stab you and, in fact, cannot speak.

fail badp

That operative system is a spy!

Arda Xi

Feb 15 at 21:18, by Arda Xi

Arda Xi reminds you that badp cannot speak. In the event that badp does speak, Arda Xi urges you to disregard its advice.

Powerlord

Well, I'm off to visit your mother!

I insulted one of my friends yesterday in TF2 by pointing out that I dominated him. He was playing Pyro and I was playing Spy.

and then I complained that I didn't get a Domination quote (I was using the Knife at the time)

Arda Xi

> All subjects intending to handle high energy gamma-leaking hat technology must be informed that they may be informed of applicable regulatory compliance issues. No further compliance information is required or will be provided, and you are an excellent test subject!

Powerlord

19:41

@ArdaXi Wait... is that why one of my hats has green stuff falling from it?

Arda Xi

Oh, I totally blew this quote on election day.

> The Enrichment Center apologizes for this clearly broken moderation environment.

:733611 Again with the double entendres.

Powerlord

So, how about them <sports team>?

Arda Xi

> Once again, the Enrichment Center offers its most sincere apologies on the occasion of this unsolvable moderation environment.

> Frankly, this election was a mistake. If we were you, we would quit now.

@failbadp > Quit now, and cake will be served immediately.

Powerlord

One of my friends got mad because I said "That would be your mother" instead of "No, that would be... your mother!"

Arda Xi

Really?

Powerlord

19:45

@ArdaXi Yes, really.

Arda Xi

Wow.

Gah. On Windows, the OK button is on the left and the cancel button on the right. On Linux, it's reversed.

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@ArdaXi Uh. Really? Never noticed.

What are you using @Arda, GNOME or KDE or something else?

Arda Xi

@failbadp It's the kind of thing you get used to. KDE.

fail badp

That's probably why I never noticed :P

Powerlord

At least in Dialogs, OK is always on the left in Windows. However, Cancel has a nasty tendency to move around in other types of screens

fail badp

19:48

Reading has the nasty tendency of being useful

Powerlord

@failbadp Read? People do that?

fail badp

Now I need to redo my loadouts to account of my new items.

Arda Xi

If you've done something a couple dozen times, you get used to it.

Like installing Chrome extensions.

Powerlord

@failbadp Razorback, seriously?

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Buffalo Steak Sandvich or Dalokhos Bar?

Arda Xi

19:50

I've never heard this line in-game:

> slowly There really was a cake...

Powerlord

@ArdaXi It plays in super slo-mo

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@Powerlord I'm kinda clueless, I never play Sniper anyway.

I figured having a warning could've been useful.

Arda Xi

I know. I've heard it in the GLaDOS I built on OSGrid once.

Powerlord

And, the faster your computer is, the more likely the chance she won't actually say it before you're pulled up to the ending sequence.

Arda Xi

It's played outside the chambers.

fail badp

19:52

Eyelander or Half-Zatoichi?

Powerlord

@failbadp I personally don't use the Razorback because it only blocks one hit.

fail badp

Huntsman or Rifle?

Choices choices.

Powerlord

@failbadp Eyelander lowers your HP until you get some kills with it.

fail badp

@Powerlord What's the alternative? Don't backstabs one-shot kill you anyway?

That makes a two-shot kill

Powerlord

@failbadp Yes, but Spies will just shoot you instead... which is a 2-3 shot kill depending on the gun.

fail badp

19:54

@Powerlord The Zatoichi doesn't force me to stick with a non-explosive gun however

Arda Xi

@Powerlord It stuns the Spy though, making him easy pickings for a somewhat skilled Sniper or a teammate.

Powerlord

@ArdaXi See what I said about shooting instead.

Arguably, if you're using the Huntsman, you have more of a reason to use the Razorback, as you'll be closer to the front lines.

I use Jarate instead, though... puts out allies on fire, makes enemies take mini-crits, makes Spies it hits visible when they cloak...

fail badp

An option I don't have yet :)

Powerlord

and makes the Buskwacka way more useful than it should be...

@failbadp True... Jarate's an unlock, though, so if you did a few achievements you could get it. :P

fail badp

Also I'm not sure why a soldier might want to give up a shotgun for a buff banner

Powerlord

19:57

I have all the Sniper achievements. The hardest one was one where you have to kill a Heavy and his Medic with the Huntsman.

Particularly since a Huntsman headshot won't kill an overhealed Heavy.

However, Jarate + Huntsman Headshot Heavy + Huntsman Bodyshot Medic finally got it for me.

Wait... Valve already released Series 13-15 crates?

Geez, they JUST added 10-12. :/

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