David's hat store

> The Onion Knight has no special command since it is the default job class and the weakest during the beginning. However, once the character reaches level 90, their stats expand rapidly, reaching 99 in every stat, making it the most powerful class in the game.

PearsonArtPhoto

12:47 AM

And Balpha's?

hichris123

@MikeMiller Here: s3.amazonaws.com/winterbash2015/winterbash.7z. Two notes: first, there can be duplicates, if the user was on one page and another due to caching. Additionally, the time is marked in EST when the 'run' finished, so the timestamp of the last file will be closest to the time that the first page was logged, and the timestamp of the current file would be closest to the time the last page was logged.

2

FlagAsSpam

@quartata Do you know what question / answer your onion knight thing was tied to?

Mike Miller

Will have to take a look when I get home tomorrow, but danke schoen. Maybe @David can pin that?

PearsonArtPhoto

That being the case, maybe 90 views is the key? Less than 90 views, then it takes off?

quartata

@FlagAsSpam Alex-style addition

FlagAsSpam

12:49 AM

@quartata How quick was the first answer on that?

quartata

@FlagAsSpam Pretty damn quick since Doorknob had made a CJam solution in the sandbox

I don't think it is that

FlagAsSpam

How many up votes did you get before he posted it?

9?

quartata

Probably like 0.

I mean, he posted it right away.

FlagAsSpam

Oh, damn.

How many views? If you remember.

quartata

Idk.

Not a lot.

FlagAsSpam

12:53 AM

I can't help but think that the 90 bit is important.

quartata

It definitely wasn't 90 views.

FlagAsSpam

@everyone Who else got the onion knight hat?

quartata

There's a meta post with a current catalog of them.

+ isaacg

FlagAsSpam

@quartata How many answers did you get before hitting 99 views?

quartata

I do think something to keep in mind is that PPCG (where a lot of answers get posted) currently has the most Onion Knights

We have 4 that I'm aware of.

Mike Miller

12:54 AM

That sort of fits tho, not a lot of people actively post answers do they? But a lot of people read the HNQs to it.

quartata

@FlagAsSpam Maybe 10-20

Mike Miller

I know I do. And I rarely venture outside Math.

quartata

@MikeMiller This is true

FlagAsSpam

Can someone downvote this?

12

Q: Hats Load on Pages, but don't always go away

I had an interesting problem with hats loading oddly this afternoon: When I changed the hats on a separate tab, the hats loaded in, but never left, which was awkward for all of us. I was running Safari 9.0.2 (11601.3.9) on Mac OS X El Capitan with no add ons when the bug occurred.

Just one, please. c:

quartata

I do think it is important that we observe the natural lifecycle of a question on PPCG

Because the fact that we have the most Onion Knights means something

Mike Miller

12:56 AM

Your question sucks. I hate it, and I hate you, and I've downvoted your question.

You horrible bad person.

FlagAsSpam

D:

Mike Miller

@quartata: You should link potentially sexy things in here before they become HNQs, so we can watch closely whether they get onions or knot.

FlagAsSpam

@quartata We have an extraordinary answer/question ratio.

quartata

@MikeMiller gotcha

Mike Miller

@FlagAsSpam: There have been onions with one answer.

FlagAsSpam

12:57 AM

> ...the weakest during the beginning. However, once the character reaches level 90, their stats expand rapidly...

quartata

It's not that.

Mike Miller

It's still not clear to me what has to happen before 90 views, and what has to happen after.

FlagAsSpam

finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/…

Before 90 = weak, 90+ = OP.

Mike Miller

So you're suggesting the question gets few votes when it's <90, then when it's at least at 90 it starts getting a lot? I'm dubious, but I get the idea.

FlagAsSpam

Not even just votes.

What was the question that got it that had one answer?

Mike Miller

1:05 AM

It was the first 007 post.

Or one of the first. I think the OP got more votes after it became a 007 post.

FlagAsSpam

Link? :P

Mike Miller

11

Q: Multi-query multiple DNS record types at once

I am currently experimenting a bit with the DNS protocol. I have noticed that I can query both, A- and MX-record of a domain, using two separate DNS packets, each containing one question query. However, when I chain them together within the question section so that the question section of a singl...

domain-name-system dns-lookup

FlagAsSpam

Doesn't have to do with accepting the answer, because CG doesn't have accepted answers...

Well, not many.

Many times, I see the questions having fewer votes than the answers.

I think that quartata's got upvoted a lot more after he got the hat, so...

Josh Crozier

2:07 AM

Does anyone know if removed comments count towards the 007 hat?

Quill - HAT MANIAC

I think so

I think @Doorknob冰 called it, I might be wrong

Doorknob 冰

@JoshCrozier they do

As in, they prevent you from getting the hat

Josh Crozier

alright, thanks.

hichris123

Maybe the dupehammer hat will motivate me towards getting a gold tag badge...

Doorknob 冰

I'm literally one answer away from gold [code-golf] on PPCG

hichris123

2:21 AM

lazy ~~human~~ Doorknob. ;)

Mike Miller

@Doorknob冰: I was going to downvote you for funsies, but I only have 101. You win today!

Merry gold.

Doorknob 冰

@MikeMiller I'm 400 over the limit anyway ;)

Josh Crozier

2:38 AM

6 more days..

David

2:56 AM

@JoshCrozier lucky (good for you). I was counting on my marshal badge, but come to find out they ban mods form getting the badge!

Mike Miller

Marshal is the flag one?

David

yes

(still not happy about that)

hichris123

You can always resign... then you can get your badge. ;)

David

sure. (not going to happen) but that does show the dumbness of the situation.

Mike Miller

Just finished the last edit I'm going to do today. At my current rate, will be done in four days.

Thank god. Editing really shows how much utter shit there is on the site. I could spend my life fixing it... or I could hide in my tags :)

David

3:00 AM

I can not get the badge now, but tomorrow (with no changes in my flags) my diamond goes away, I would get the badge.

@MikeMiller there is plenty to edit!

Mike Miller

Dear lord is there ever

David

@MikeMiller just curious, why the edit?

Mike Miller

I already said Thank god one line back; to say the same thing again would be inelegant.

David

Oh.

(and I did not think people put that much thought in to the chat...)

Mike Miller

Compulsion in writing is all.

David

3:07 AM

is all what?

Doorknob 冰

oh huh wow I got a gold badge (Populist) for this answer O_o

Yay hats! (even though I was one answer away from a different gold badge anyway...)

Did I miss a secret hat? What in the world is Flying Tiger?

David

@Doorknob冰 thats the question of the day

David

3:31 AM

I found another! It’s Always 5 O’Clock Somewhere

hichris123

bluefeet's the only one with it.

David

how do you know? a script?

Doorknob 冰

so many new hats O_o

David

ikr

hichris123

@David ... the script I'm getting the data from? ;P

David

3:34 AM

@hichris123 so you wrote one too?

what hat freak didnt?

just a guess but I expect that this has something to do with that hat.

PearsonArtPhoto

@David My guess with that one is you have to have some site activity for each hour of the 24 hours in a day?

But that's not consistent really, is it. Sigh.

Doorknob 冰

@PearsonArtPhoto no

hichris123

@David yeah, it's pretty simple - just scrapes every page of the leaderboard looking for secret hats.

David

@hichris123 have you gotten locked out?

hichris123

Only on the first day. :P

David

3:48 AM

lol, at least I'm not the only one. :)

PS what is on your winterbash.7z file?

nevermind, I download it.

Quill - HAT MANIAC

Gday

hichris123

@David Oh I was talking to Mike about it. Now I know why I'm so confused. :P

7 hours ago, by hichris123

Basically what it is: a series of text files, each named by their timestamp, with a list of secret hats, the user who earned that hat, and what page of the leaderboard that user was on.

Quill - HAT MANIAC

Can someone post a photo of the new hat, J'm at Sea World on my phone and I want to see it

David

@Quill-HATMANIAC ^^

Quill - HAT MANIAC

Did you share your data @hichris123? I'd be interested to see :-)

Thanks @david

David

3:58 AM

(now dont just run to the meta and post that!)

Quill - HAT MANIAC

Sure

Doorknob 冰

It's Five O'Clock Somewhere

"It's Five O'Clock Somewhere" is a song performed by Alan Jackson and Jimmy Buffett, and written by Jim "Moose" Brown and Don Rollins. It was released in June 2003 as the lead single from Jackson's 2003 compilation album Greatest Hits Volume II. It spent eight non-consecutive weeks at Number One on the Billboard Hot Country Songs chart in summer of 2003. In addition, the song hit number 17 on the US Hot 100, making it the biggest pop hit for Jackson and the first top forty hit for Buffett since the 1970s. On November 5, 2003, it also won the Country Music Association (CMA) Award for Vocal Event...

maybe?

hichris123

@David Wonder if that one is a nod to 'It's Always Friday in Iceland'.

or not

Quill - HAT MANIAC

Probably just the concept @Doorknob冰

David

no idea, I already read the linked wikipeaia post, seams likely enough.

Pops

3:59 AM

Is everyone else seriously going to ignore the Sea World thing? What are you doing there?

Quill - HAT MANIAC

Um looking at sharks atm

Doorknob 冰

According to Urban Dictionary and Yahoo Answers (totally reliable sources), it's also slang for "go get drunk" o.o

David

@Pops good point! @Quill-HATMANIAC you are a "HAT MANIAC" come on!

hichris123

obviously the intended meaning @Doorknob冰.

Quill - HAT MANIAC

@David work christmas party ;-; I know I'd rather be spamming @pops with emails too

hichris123

4:00 AM

I’m not sure who to thank for this, but thank you. I’m pretty sure I know though. https://t.co/Opcu1aaqdJ

Tweeted by onlybluefeet on November 24, 2015 at 6:37 PM

David

interesting...

Pops

I feel like you should be more dedicated. Not sure if you should be more dedicated to Sea World (and therefore not thinking about hats or this chat) or more dedicated to hats (and either not be at Sea World at all or just not need other people to post screenshots here) but surely one of the two.

hichris123

DVK got Flying Tiger by the way.

Quill - HAT MANIAC

David

@Pops lol. you tell him. (then at the same time are asking for more emails)

Quill - HAT MANIAC

4:02 AM

Well I have outlook on my phone @pops dont try me

Pops

Hey, what else do I have going on tonight?

David

@Pops is there anyone else that does the hats, or you the only lone victim of everybody's madness?

Pops

I don't think the term "victim" can be applied to me this year. Only Jon.

Quill - HAT MANIAC

Maybe I already got one of them right and pops really just likes laughing at my emails (they're not funny though, that's where I get confused)

hichris123

Hmm, maybe Flying Tiger has to do with both answering & asking?

Quill - HAT MANIAC

4:04 AM

Yeah, it could be worse, I mean it could be made so he has to reply to you

@hichris123 how many posts did balpha post

David

@Quill-HATMANIAC 3 answers

Quill - HAT MANIAC

Sorry, questions

hichris123

Hmm, balpha didn't post any questions.

David

O, dont know, was still thinking of bluefeet and her hat

Quill - HAT MANIAC

Did she get it on MSE or SO

David

4:07 AM

meta

hichris123

Maybe it's just making two positively scored posts within 10, 20, 30 minutes of each other?

No, that'd be too obvious...

David

30 mins ago, by David

just a guess but I expect that this has something to do with that hat.

@hichris123 they were all within 1 min of the next

hichris123

I'm talking about Flying Tiger, but even I'm getting confused between them. :P

Quill - HAT MANIAC

I did a Selfie on MSO that should've qualified then

It might be a self 15 rated answer to a 15 rated question

Pops

Thanks to chat in the Tavern, I have discovered that under federal law, the minimum wage for a tipped employee in the US is $2.13/hr. A tipped employee is someone who makes at least $30 a month -- a month -- in tips.

Quill - HAT MANIAC

4:14 AM

Wow

No wonder being a waiter/waitress is so vilified

Pops

I don't know what state laws apply, but they can't make things that much better. I also don't know what the current exchange rate is, but I figure I can probably get US$30 for twelve million unicorn dollars. So in the interest of not having my pay slashed to $2.13/hr, all your requests to buy hats with unicorn dollars are hereby denied.

Quill - HAT MANIAC

What about if we want to buy Unicorn Dollars

I'll trade in all my New Hope and Pancake-Thing hats for UD

Pops

Find someone else! Tips are not appreciated here.

Quill - HAT MANIAC

Whatever! I'll ping @Shog9 later

Pops

He might be more accommodating. Unlike me, he does more than two hours of legit work per month, and might be able to handle the lower base wage.

Quill - HAT MANIAC

4:19 AM

If answering my emails counted as legit work, you'd get paid more

Pops

I'm thinking probably Monday for secret hat hints, by the way, since things seem to have slowed down.

If I format it right, maybe I can even get me a Do it Yourself hat.

hichris123

@Pops how about unicoins?

betcha there are still some people mining unicoins... or attempting to.

Quill - HAT MANIAC

Pops how about for Amazing Grace: A question tagged bug or support that gets at least +5 and is answered by a staff member?

m.slashdot.org/story/304157

Can SF&F do this too?

Pops

@hichris123 I don't even

@Quill-HATMANIAC Sorry, that is incorrect.

Quill - HAT MANIAC

4:35 AM

How about the same thing, but for 10 upvotes?

Pops

@Quill-HATMANIAC It's... not such a ridiculous idea that I would say no right off the bat. But I'm not endorsing it, either.

Quill - HAT MANIAC

Just gonna say:

He's actually Luke's father

/spoilers

Pops

Quill - HAT MANIAC

Lol

@pops: how about a meta question tagged bug or support that gets answered by a se staff member and gets at least 10 upvotes

Pops

Still no.

Quill - HAT MANIAC

4:50 AM

Okay

Am I getting hotter or am I just really cold

Pops

You are making progress... towards what we were originally thinking of as a trigger, before we realized "nah that would be too crazy." Except I suppose it wouldn't have been too crazy after all, because it's getting guessed earlier than the actual trigger.

So, honorable mention, of a sort, I suppose?

Quill - HAT MANIAC

Well that provides me a little info, so thanks

Cool fish

Is it just something like have a positively scored bug question answered by staff?

Also the 'do it yourself' hat should've been called

"Lemme take a selfie"

Eran

5:09 AM

@Quill-HATMANIAC I think it was called Selfie last year

Pops

@Quill-HATMANIAC It's actually sorta similar to a hat from last year, entitled "Selfie."

Dangit, Eran.

Quill - HAT MANIAC

Or a secret hat with a selfie icon called "but first"

Pops

That's the second time that's happened to me in like an hour.

Quill - HAT MANIAC

Oh, I see

Goddamn it @Eran 3 fast man

Where's your sonic hat

Eran

sonic hat?

Quill - HAT MANIAC

5:10 AM

You know

The blue hedgehog

It was a joke

Eran

I guessed it was, I just didn't get it

Quill - HAT MANIAC

Right.

Uh

3

Q: What is the Stack Exchange API used for?

This may sound stupid to those of you who happen to know, but I just can't figure out any practical use case where one would need to use the Stack Exchange API. Can you provide some examples?

discussion api

Does this guy have Amazing Grace

Matias Cicero, Buenos Aires, Argentina

195 6

bug localization site-recommendation status-completed support winterbash-2015

David

@Quill-HATMANIAC um, no.

Quill - HAT MANIAC

5:26 AM

Okay, I'm on mobile so I couldn't tell

Mike Miller

What's new, buttercups

David

@MikeMiller please change your hat, every time I see you in chat I think you are @Pops.

Mike Miller

@Pops That makes me happy. I like to believe that I could figure these out.

yeah but I was wearing this hat first

David

if you missed it:

2 hours ago, by David

I found another! It’s Always 5 O’Clock Somewhere

@MikeMiller ok, then I'll just have to deal with it :)

Mike Miller

Ah, I did. Cool.

But no new ideas?

David

5:31 AM

nothing

not only did SE add more secret hats they made them harder.

Pops

Ah, but is not the ability to make perfect copy decoys of himself one of Sun Wukong's many abilities?

David

grr, I haven't even been able to get clean up!

@Gwenn can you give me any more specifics on how you got the clean up hat?

unbelievable I just posted that, now I get the hat.

42 sec!

@Pops new hat guess sent.

@Pops thanks for taking the time (1 in the morning!) to answer all of our craziness. but darn, I was keeping a record of what I did to get that hat...

Pops

5:54 AM

What else would I be doing?

David

sleeping!

that is what I should be doing

Pops

What? Nobody told me that was an option! I'm out, y'all! (Not really, I'll still be here for... a bit.)

David

lol, good night.

Heslacher

I will get one last shot at secret hat : Cleanup Crew: Delete over 2 days 42 comments which are older than a year.

Pops

O ho, picking one of the fun numbers, eh? Sorry, that is incorrect.

Quill - HAT MANIAC

6:01 AM

@Pops by a bit, do you mean the rest of your natural life?

Pops

I sure hope not.

Heslacher

Ok, thanks. I will just wait for any secret hat and skip Archimedes :-(

Quill - HAT MANIAC

5% battery RIP

No more spam for @Pops for a while it seems

Mike Miller

Was Cleanup Crew not claimed? I'm surprised you care about the specific numbers involved.

Quill - HAT MANIAC

No it wasn't claimed

Mike Miller

6:04 AM

But I guess that's one you won't respond to.

Pops

I just re-read Shog's 2013 hints. Those things were cryptic.

@MikeMiller I am being pretty strict. But it's not like it's 40 and people are guessing 50 and that's the only thing they're getting wrong. There's more to it.

Quill - HAT MANIAC

Owing to her accomplishments and her naval rank, she is sometimes referred to as "Amazing Grace".

Obvious enough

Anyway, I need to keep thinking on Amazing Grace, I'm probably not going to get archie for the others...

@pops: how about a nice question tagged bug that gets the accepted answer nice question

Or: a nice question tagged bug that gets a project lead to comment on

Pops

Sorry, no to both.

Quill - HAT MANIAC

Yeah...

I'm walking in circles

1% - one more guess: a bug tagged question that gets upvoted by a staff member

Heslacher

6:25 AM

votes are secret, so this shouldn't work

Quill - HAT MANIAC

Yeah, it's a no again

Anyway, later guys

Heslacher

Recharge !

Pops

@Heslacher Eh, it wouldn't necessarily reveal which staff member, so I think it would be just on the okay side of the borderline.

Quill - HAT MANIAC

I'm at Sea World

But it's a no nonetheless

Pops

@Quill-HATMANIAC But no, that is not correct.

Quill - HAT MANIAC

6:27 AM

Meanwhile pops is getting material for next year

Pops

The spreadsheet for ideas for next year started before this year's event started.

Quill - HAT MANIAC

Um positive bug tagged question with an image in it

Pops

Okay, now you're just flailing wildly.

Quill - HAT MANIAC

Yeah, I'm losing ideas and charge

Sorry...

Okay, now I'm thinking it has to do with amount of Bug reports in a day

I'll come up with something more solid later

Quill - HAT MANIAC

6:45 AM

So I just turned my phone off and on again and now it's at 2%. Apple confirmed for kinetic charging?

Quill - HAT MANIAC

1:04 PM

oh hi

Eran

1:29 PM

hi

PearsonArtPhoto

Onion knight: Being on the hot topic list makes it more likely to achieve, but isn't the direct trigger.

Quill - HAT MANIAC

yep

PearsonArtPhoto

So it's some weak question (Votes, answers or views, I'd guess views) that suddenly explodes in (votes, answers, views)

Is one of the questions in the data explorer?

Maybe there's a pattern in the voting that would be made clear by looking at it there?

Many of the questions have low views/ votes (Well, at least not notably high)

So, the data explorer will be available Sunday. Hmmm...

PearsonArtPhoto

1:56 PM

Any mods out there for a site that has an Onion Knight?

Quill - HAT MANIAC

Try Doorknob

he even has one

PearsonArtPhoto

If so, take a look at the mod-> timeline for the question.

One of the things it shows is votes in relationship to events on the question. Something might show up there?

@Doorknob冰: Can you do so?

Malachi

@Quill-HATMANIAC did you figure out Grace?

Caleb Kleveter

2:11 PM

I've got an idea for a secret hat next year (even if SE doesn't do it, I thought it was funny). A hat called "Skeet Shooter", you get it for anything that would cause a SE notification on Jon Skeet's phone.

5

PearsonArtPhoto

I'm almost certain the 5 o'clock hat has something to do with meta.stackexchange.com/questions/271267/…

The timeline fits perfectly.

If I had to guess, it'd be posting a CW answer to your own question, although that doesn't really make sense...

Malachi

does someone have the posts that earned people the Grace Hopper hat?

I have an idea

Malachi

2:27 PM

could it be that the bug posts all have something to do with Winterbash? and that some of them might be intentional?

PearsonArtPhoto

No.

Mine didn't get an Amazing Grace, and it was clearly winter bash related.

15

Q: Hats on profile block access to mod tools

Note that I can barely click on "Mod", and can't even read the number in brown indicating the number of flags on the account. A pretty minor thing overall, but still annoying. This appeared on The Final Frontier (Space), btw. Through some experimentation, it seems to primarily affect beta sites...

bug status-completed profile-page moderator-tools winterbash

I don't understand exactly why others have gotten one and I haven't, but it is strange...

Malachi

let's give Balpha one more vote and see what happens

Caleb Kleveter

@Malachi, what are you expecting? Where does he need the upvote?

Malachi

3 mins ago, by PearsonArtPhoto

15

Q: Hats on profile block access to mod tools

Note that I can barely click on "Mod", and can't even read the number in brown indicating the number of flags on the account. A pretty minor thing overall, but still annoying. This appeared on The Final Frontier (Space), btw. Through some experimentation, it seems to primarily affect beta sites...

bug status-completed profile-page moderator-tools winterbash

PearsonArtPhoto

I've also heard that editing might be part of it. I just edited it slightly, perhaps another upvote to the question would give me the hat?

Malachi

2:34 PM

I hadn't upvoted it yet....

but I did now

Caleb Kleveter

I also did, does that mean he has 10 or 11?

Malachi

I upvoted the post, I am thinking that the post may need to be edited by someone else

PearsonArtPhoto

I'm sure that my question has to be close to the Amazing Grace. Just a slight nudge should do it, if we can only figure out the way to make it happen...

It has been edited by a few people.

Mast, Balpha, and myself.

Mike Miller

argh, that damned onion

Malachi

just posted to twitter

PearsonArtPhoto

2:39 PM

Well, nothing so far...

Caleb Kleveter

This user has the hat. take a look at his posts.

PearsonArtPhoto

I just got it!

So, what was done differently...

Malachi

Twitter post?

PearsonArtPhoto

A bug question with status posted on twitter?

Caleb Kleveter

Congrats! Have any idea how it appeared. One thing to note is that even if you fill the requirements, they show up later.

Malachi

2:45 PM

or that you edited it?

PearsonArtPhoto

Not the edit.

Might be upvotes after a downvote as well.

Caleb Kleveter

My though t is that you post a bug question, and there is an accepted answer with a score of 10 or more, and it has a status tag.

PearsonArtPhoto

I did request a downvote that I think brought me to 11, and no upvotes until today.

Malachi

@CalebKleveter that sounds about right? but didn't someone post that on the secret hat post?

PearsonArtPhoto

The post to twitter happens with 10 votes, so either way, we couldn't really tell.

Malachi

2:48 PM

if community posts to twitter it shows in the edits. but if a user posts to twitter you don't know.

I posted to twitter....

10 mins ago, by Malachi

just posted to twitter

PearsonArtPhoto

Nah, then it's not that.

Malachi

I don't think that meta posts to twitter....

PearsonArtPhoto

Accepted doesn't matter, nor status.

Only +10 answer, possibly +10 question.

Must be a bug.

Caleb Kleveter

Really? Why do you say that?

PearsonArtPhoto

meta.stackexchange.com/users/138999/jonh?tab=activity

No status on his only bug question, nor accepted, and he's one of the guys who is supposed to have it.

Caleb Kleveter

2:53 PM

I disagree: meta.stackexchange.com/search?q=user:138999+[bug]

PearsonArtPhoto

Sorry, it was migrated, looked different... Sigh.

Accepted doesn't matter.

+10 question, +10 answer, status message for a question tagged bug.

Could prove it with an SO moderator, just temporarily add a status to meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/312567/…

No upvoting, or anything else, just a tag change.

Doorknob 冰

@PearsonArtPhoto Okay, which question?

Malachi

I think it is just the Status tag and the question +10

PearsonArtPhoto

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Q: Apply pop-up does not make it clear which version of resume will be attached

I've used Careers in the past to find people as well as to answer employers' / recruiters' questions about whether I was interested in a job or not. However, I had never used careers to actually "apply" for a job until today. I have posted in the past about bugs and confusion in the Careers webs...

bug careers jobs

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