The Periodic Table

Gaurang Tandon

2:19 AM

@Martin-マーチン SOXv2.2.30DEV works, at least for me.

paracetamol

5:19 AM

@Zhe True :(

@CowperKettle Bu...but...you have my dear comrade! You speak English better than ~~@M.A.R.~~ most people I know O:)

paracetamol

8:28 AM

@Mart Wanna give this a look, and consider reopening it?

:: chemistry.stackexchange.com/questions/99664/… (reopened; message edited by Martin)

Avnish Kabaj

You need one more vote

Martin - マーチン

@GaurangTandon I'll have another look later, but currently it seems still not working. Are you using chrome or something different?

paracetamol

8:46 AM

@AvnishKabaj Thanks O:)

(I'm assuming you're the one who cast the 4th vote)

Martin - マーチン

@paracetamol done

paracetamol

This is why I love @Mart <3

Thanks :-)

Thomas Weller

9:22 AM

Hi. I'm looking for the size of the coffein molecule but can't find it online since I'm a chemistry noob. I guess I just need the right term to Google.

paracetamol

@ThomasWeller Define "size" ;-)

(I assume you mean "caffeine")

Thomas Weller

For me, putting it into a rectangular box is enough

Sure, caffeine is certainly the better choice :-)

paracetamol

@ThomasWeller I'm not sure I quite get you :P

Maybe some context would help? O:)

Thomas Weller

If I put it into the smallest possible cube, what's the size of that cube?

paracetamol

Ah...

Lemme see what I can dig up

Thomas Weller

9:27 AM

I'm glad I didn't ask an official question...

paracetamol

In the way, you're asking it here, it'd prolly be closed XD

But if you tweak it to "Where can I look up the dimensions/bond lengths of organic molecules", it'll probably work O:)

Still searching

Avnish Kabaj

0.322 nm

Radius in water

google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://…

Your cube would be

.644nm*.644nm*.644nm

Martin - マーチン

@ThomasWeller It's actually not that simple... Molar volume: 133.4±7.0 cm³ (chemspider.com/Chemical-Structure.2424.html)

Thomas Weller

@AvnishKabaj: thanks

@Martin-マーチン: cm³ is definitely too much. I could not swallow that

paracetamol

Actually, a molar volume is more meaningful than a "molecular volume" (of sorts)...

@Mart Can you make something work with ChemBio draw?

Thomas Weller

9:42 AM

Oh, I see. It's the volume of 1 Mol, which is millions of molecules.

Phew. I just wanted a number :-)

Martin - マーチン

@ThomasWeller That is the volume of one mole of the substance. You should divide by Avogadro's constant

here are experimental results: sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S002196140200263X

@paracetamol don't know if they have a feature like that

@ThomasWeller what do you need it for? Does it have to be a quotable source?

paracetamol

@Martin-マーチン Neither do I (I don't have the software). Thanks though o/

Thomas Weller

No, it's just for some advertisement, nothing scientific

paracetamol

X3

Avnish Kabaj

@ThomasWeller no problem

Thomas Weller

9:49 AM

If I have a look at the 3D view in chemspider.com/Chemical-Structure.2424.html, it looks quite flat.

Perhaps a .322 nm radius, but much less in height

Martin - マーチン

@paracetamol couldn't find anything like it

Thomas Weller

The Avogadro freeware avogadro.cc has a caffeine molecule

Martin - マーチン

@ThomasWeller yeah, it's quite a standard molecule... nothing special. The problem lies in defining where a molecule 'ends'

Gaurang Tandon

11:19 AM

@Martin-マーチン I'm using Chrome latest

Martin - マーチン

12:45 PM

@GaurangTandon strange... on tampermonkey it says 2.2.1DEV last update 38d ago, but when i click update it says 'no update available' what do i have to do?

paracetamol

1:01 PM

@Martin-マーチン Welp. Thanks for checking it out though! :D

hBy2Py

2:01 PM

@EnderLook In general, yes, if you're talking about flammability/ignition from a safety perspective.

In other contexts (air/fuel mix for internal combustion engines, arbitrary chemistry experiments, etc.) it might be more complex.

@gateprep @Gaurang Yeah, that should absolutely be written as an equilibrium reaction. Super-rapid equilibrium, too, both in gas- and aqueous-phase.

CowperKettle

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Waves at @Cowper and @hBy2Py

hBy2Py

@paracetamol Hey-ho -- how are things?

paracetamol

It goes...

O:)

I see you've got a new display photo ;-)

All this time I've seen the red/maroon version, so it looks weird to me XD

hBy2Py

2:17 PM

<nod>, it definitely looked odd to me at first, too.

paracetamol

Meh, I'll get used to it :3

hBy2Py

But, I wanted to make sort of a rebranding of my various online presences, and the green works better with that python/dragon thing

bskinn.github.io

I like it better now, actually, especially now that I'm used to it.

paracetamol

I see, nice! :D

(Dragon thingy's not bad, but I miss the red python)

O:)

hBy2Py

Change is rough. :-)

paracetamol

Speaking of change, your midterm elections are coming up >:-D

hBy2Py

2:23 PM

<chuckle> It gonna be interesting, that.

paracetamol

Rubs hands in anticipation

Pity independent candidates aren't really a thing in the States :/

hBy2Py

It would be interesting to see how things would be different if we had a more parliamentary/party-coalition-forming system.

paracetamol

It's always a brawl between dems and GOP

hBy2Py

<nod>, apparently the more winner-take-all structure tends to squeeze out independent parties pretty dramatically.

At least, that's the explanation I've always heard.

With how dramatically divergent the political/worldview philosophies of the two major parties have become... it's pretty ugly, because large chunks of each side have no particular interest in actual debate.

paracetamol

@hBy2Py Trust me, you don't want a parliament XD

@hBy2Py Yep, makes sense

hBy2Py

2:27 PM

Which, given that the disagreements are at the level of quite-fundamental premises, isn't all that unreasonable.

@paracetamol hehe

paracetamol

> because large chunks of each side have no particular interest in actual debate.

I'd +1,000,000 that

@hBy2Py Because in parliaments, ideas don't take off (but shoes and pens do)

@hBy2Py If I'm not mistaken, they aren't completely different in their world view (I dunno about domestic policies). Both dems and GOP think military intervention is the best way to solve problems :/ (So in the respect, I don't really see the difference between neo-cons and neo-libs)

^ A non-American's view of things O:)

hBy2Py

@paracetamol We've not had skilled statesmen at the helm for a while, AFAICT.

The inclinations either tend to be overt, active military approaches

Or, no stick whatsoever... all conciliatory talk, and no attempts at tough negotiation, clever machinations, etc.

paracetamol

@hBy2Py I can tell XD (and you guys aren't alone)

Martin - マーチン

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paracetamol

@Martin-マーチン :')

hBy2Py

2:35 PM

It's possible there's a lot more of that, that isn't visible to me as a regular citizen..but.

Lol

Martin - マーチン

hBy2Pie

hBy2Py

@Martin-マーチン That looks more like hBy2Cake

paracetamol

Yeah ^

Martin - マーチン

yeah, it is... I didn't like the pie clipart

hBy2Py

Makes one wonder whether Planck had a sweet tooth...

paracetamol

2:36 PM

@Mart Ooh ooh! Do one about me! \o/

hBy2Py

Mart, I'm impressed at how good that looks with you not having access to my Powerpoint original.

paracetamol

@hBy2Py I think most Germans do :3

@hBy2Py Well, if military-industrial complex = clever machinations, then that's definitely there :3

hBy2Py

@paracetamol Lol, no, that's clever machines

paracetamol

:D

hBy2Py

The bureaucracy of the military and its major suppliers is about as fouled up as most of the government, AFAIK.

Martin - マーチン

2:39 PM

@paracetamol isn't your avatar some christian symbol?

@hBy2Py just don't enlarge ;)

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@paracetamol What the heck did you just do?

paracetamol

@hBy2Py I was actually referring to the means via which they siphon public money for themselves, and not the actors/complex per se

@Martin-マーチン Yeah ._.

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ I shared my secret Blin-making recipe with Brian here O:)

Martin - マーチン

@paracetamol Yeah, I'm not touching that ;)

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

No the other thing

paracetamol

Ah, for religious reasons, or for not wanting to offend anyone (or both)? :P

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Ah, the other one's my kompot recipe..

Martin - マーチン

2:42 PM

yeah... exactly... well, I am not religious ;)

paracetamol

@Martin-マーチン I thought chi-rho's were well-recognized in Western Europe..

@Martin-マーチン Ah...

Well, to each his own O:)

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@Martin-マーチン sausage is a religion

paracetamol

Wait..

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ No, spaghetti is ._.

Flying Spaghetti Monster

The Flying Spaghetti Monster (FSM) is the deity of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, or Pastafarianism. Pastafarianism (a portmanteau of pasta and Rastafarianism) is a social movement that promotes a light-hearted view of religion and opposes the teaching of intelligent design and creationism in public schools. According to adherents, Pastafarianism is a "real, legitimate religion, as much as any other". It is legally recognized as a religion in the Netherlands and New Zealand – where Pastafarian representatives are authorized to officiate weddings. However, in the United States, a federal...

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

That one isn't a religion

Martin - マーチン

google.de/…

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

2:44 PM

It's just a mobile theme for atheists

Martin - マーチン

crap... i was about to paste the same

paracetamol

XD

Beat you to it X3