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12:33 AM
@AbhigyanC features questions?
Bounties?
 
 
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Q: how to post information that others might find useful (if I don't have a question)

BennettSuppose I've discovered something that I think will be useful for others. But I don't have a question, I just want to share it. Can I post that on Chemistry Stack Exchange? Do I have to do it in a "question-and-answer" format, even if I never had an actual question? The specific thing I found...

 
2:08 AM
Last night dream has some chemistry (which unfortunately involves a nonexistent metal called Zelene)
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Basically in the dream, these two molecules are part of my PhD and when they are discussed on the molecule visualisation software in the dream (whose interface is approximate almost exactly by the Paint 3D here) in my supervisor's office (along with another male professor with an unfamilar face)
I first talked about how the first molecule, consists of a dizelenide ligand Ze$_2^{-}$ attached to a zinc with oxidation state +3 and a sulforxide group sticking out
and then I talked about another molecule where the H$_3$Ze$^+$ ligand attached to the +2 oxidation state zinc
I then reported that I observed the molecule where zinc in H$_3$-Ze-Zn-S=O preferentially had the zelene based ligand to bind trans to the SO, while "electronically speaking, the opposite happens for Ze=Ze-Zn-S=O"
(The latter phase need some translation in order to make sense because what the dream is referring to for Ze=Ze-Zn-S=O is that when the electron density is plotted for it, it is less concentrated at the dizelenide and more at the S=O, while it is more balanced in H$_3$-Ze-Zn-S=O)
After that, my supervisor said this is some really exciting result and he is looking forward to the follow ups. I then left the meeting as I woke up
The inspiration of this dream is probably from my recent calculations in my PhD on Rh(I) complexes which half of them failed due to non convergence. My supervisor's happy expression might be directly inspired from my last meeting which is also happy
While only these molecules are described, a lot of this Zelene chemistry is mentioned such as how when the electron density is made to oscillate in the molecule, the dizelenide complex will have a lot less electron density at the dizelenide (as if some enhanced pi backbonding occurs that caused the whole ligand to donate electrons to the SO)) whereas the "Zelenyl" complex will have electron density being balanced evenly about the zinc
and that Zelene behaves like zinc
Interestingly, a long time ago in the past I create a fictional gas called Zenide in a sci-fi of mine with the same symbol. This fictional gas is basically an inverted version of fluorine in that it is so reducing that it behaves as if it has a formal charge of -14
 
3:27 AM
Typo Zenide -> Zenon
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Q: What is the source for Osmium's colour?

ShroomZedThe majority of metals are known for appearing grey to our eyes, but the main exceptions to this are the "famous" group eleven metals, where their distinctive colours have been adequately explained before due to electron bands and the jump from d to s shells (along with the relativistic effects h...

 
 
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4:38 AM
@Loong Why hello! :D
 
 
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6:13 AM
@Secret Cool name zelene
14 hours ago, by Abcd
Is it okay/allowed to ask "is my synthesis method for the compound correct?" type questions?
Someone please reply to this.
 
6:29 AM
@Abcd yes
 
Thanks.
 
 
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12:25 PM
Please let me know, I want to correct my understanding
 
 
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1:27 PM
wikipedia does not explain why inverse demand diels aldar is rarer than the normal one, thus it is not answering the OP's
 
Zhe
This question can't really be answered
Because how do you define "rare"?
 
Adjective: rare (comparative rarer, superlative rarest)
  1. Very uncommon; scarce.
  2. Synonyms: scarce, selcouth, seld, seldsome, selly, geason, uncommon
  3. Antonyms: common, frequent
  4. (of a gas) Thin; of low density.
qualitatively
 
Zhe
1:43 PM
That doesn't at all answer this question
Is it rare because fewer examples exist or is it rare because people don't want to run it?
It's unclear to the point where you can question if it's rare at all
 
I know, I'm just trying to help :-)
 
Zhe
@skull You're definitely not doing that
>:(
 
 
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2:47 PM
@hBy2Py Brian Hullo! \o/
 
@paracetamol Heyo!
 
Does a little jig
 
All: opine, please! (cc @szentas when you do)
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Q: Chemistry write-ups in LaTex - is it worth drawing figures in LaTex?

szentsasBeing an undergraduate chemistry student I have to write a significant amount of hand-ins e.g. lab reports. Up until now I've been using LaTex with mhchem for equations and siunitx for numbers/units, but I've not invested the time and effort in learning other, more complicated chemistry related p...

Being an undergraduate chemistry student I have to write a significant amount of hand-ins e.g. lab reports. Up until now I've been using LaTex with [`mhchem`](https://ctan.org/pkg/mhchem) for equations and [`siunitx`](https://ctan.org/pkg/siunitx) for numbers/units, but I've not invested the time and effort in learning other, more complicated chemistry related packages. This means, that I usually draw mechanisms with ChemDraw and other figures with image editors.

So my question is: which packages is it worth spending the time on learning (and using)?
Hi, @szentsas. I went ahead and posted it for you. Hope that's ok.
 
Looks the other way
 
@hBy2Py :D
 
2:49 PM
Waves at @szentsas
@hBy2Py Making full use of your RO powers I see 8D
 
Whassa point of 'aving 'em if ya don't use 'em, eh?
 
Whimpers
 
@para, how's things?
 
They're..going O:)
<--- Will be a college student soon :D
Not Chemistry, unfortunately XD
 
@szen I don't have a lot of experience with advanced LaTeX tools, so I can't advise very well about specific packages.
In the end, I would recommend using whatever gives you the least headaches to get it to look how you want. Generating images in other software and including those seems like a perfectly fine approach.
It's sort of like what we usually do here at work: compose figures in Powerpoint, then paste into Word as images.
@paracetamol Oh, no? Why not?
 
2:53 PM
Oh wait, I don't think I've ever told you I was a high-schooler until a few months ago XD
Kinda like M.A.R..
@hBy2Py I chose medicine :3
 
Nah, I either knew that or guessed from a ways back
 
At least we've got biochem. I'll be sure to ping you for any nitrogen-oxide queries (or if I ever need to get high...)
@hBy2Py :O
 
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ To be fair, the identity of the cation makes a big difference in certain circumstances. (Just none that are relevant in intro chem.)
@paracetamol I actually don't know nearly as much about nitrous
 
Well, I'll be your guinea pig then 8D
 
But, you'll for sure run into plenty of chem. Will you have some elective slots that you can fill with an extra chem class or two?
@hBy2Py @ortho, I figure you might have thoughts here?
 
2:58 PM
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ I second what @hBy2Py Brian said; in the Kolbe-Schmitt carboxylation using NaOH favours the @ortho product, whereas KOH favours the @para product (courtesy: Clayden's) :3
@hBy2Py Nope, I don't think it works that way here ;P
@hBy2Py Incidentally, I hope to trick convince @ortho into making me his protege. I could do with his Org. Chem expertise O:)
 
hehehe
 
^ On the downside, I might have to buy him coffee...
 
@paracetamol Another example!
 
Nods happily
 
Oy, the cation-sensitivity of some of the things we work with...maddening!
 
3:01 PM
Also, it was ortho who suggested Clayden's to me X3
@hBy2Py Pats back
 
Best I can figure, it's all to do with the effect of the different cations on solvent structure.
 
^ Ehh, more-or-less about there ;P
Gimme a second..
 
@hBy2Py chemfig is hell. Good luck with that one...
 
@szen
 
modiagram looks beautiful....*drool*
 
3:07 PM
@penta This is ironically awesome.
 
@hBy2Py boooooooooooooo
 
@hBy2Py Can't seen to find the page :'( But the logic was (more or less) like this: The Na+, which is associated with the phenoxide ion (as a counter cation, obviously) is fairly polar and coordinates with CO2, thus paving the way for ortho- substitution. K+ isn't as polar, hence you observe para- substitution (as is typical for electrophilic aromatic substitution) :3
Waves at lord @penta
@hBy2Py Pffffft.
I can't seem to ping Jan... and my spine's tingling :'(
 
3:35 PM
ugh, I really don't understand SCF. The PES is reasonably smooth and if the molecule is unstable, why can't they just let it fully dissociate as its "optimised geometry" and keep throwing these SCF not convergining errors that inform absolutely nothing about what went wrong with the inversion of the Fock matrix
 
@Secret You can't calculate a reliable geometric gradient if you don't have a reliable wavefunction.
Sometimes manually wrangling the geometry into something the SCF can handle is a necessary step in getting a calculation to where you want it.
@paracetamol What do you mean by 'polar' here?
 
But I don't really understand what makes the wavefunction so screwed up when multiple PES scans in different directions and comparing trends with similar molecules basically indicated the minima has to be somewhere in the middle, and yet the wavefunction keep screwing up whenever it tries to approach it
 
What sort of system is it? Any transition metals in there?
Radical? Ion?
 
Uh, there's one fat Rh(I)
 
@hBy2Py Electophilic/Acidic? :3
 
3:39 PM
@Secret Oooph. You might have a surface crossing or something.
Try different multiplicities
 
Interestingly, the whole batch runs fine when it is Rh(III) also in singlet ground state
so perhaps for indenyl Rh(I) complexes, the ground state is not singlet, hmmm...
 
@paracetamol AFAIK Na+ is less polarizable than K+... meaning that its charge distribution is more compact.
Is this what you mean by 'polar'?
@Secret Yeah, AFAIK in the middle of the transition block you have to pay mucho attention to whether you've got a high-spin or low-spin system.
 
"More polar" = "Greater polarizing power" O:)
@hBy2Py So, yeah
 
Bingo, gotcha
 
3:46 PM
Looks like my already lengthy filename need a new specifier for what multiplicity I am computing hmm, that makes 5 parameters
 
<--- Poor choice of terms, my bad. Thanks X3
 
T-01-01_03-00-00a0.com anyone lol
 
@Secret Bookkeeping run parameters is a major PITA, absolutely.
@paracetamol NP -- This is potentially very useful to us over here, so I wanted to make sure I understood the argument.
 
Nods So, if I ever find the relevant page in Clayden's again, should I ping you with it, or will that be unnecessary?
@hBy2Py Maybe opting for Medicine was a good idea after all XD
 
ok so here's the plan. After T-01_03-00-00a0 finishes running (which won't be long if it hits SCF not converging again), I am gonna make a new batch with multiplicity 2 and see how that goes and compare their SCF energies
gotta be glad I wrote some code that allow me to run all of the last 3 digits in the filename at the same time, hence saving me heaps of time
 
3:51 PM
@Secret Automated input generation and run queueing for established computation processes is amazing.
@Secret If you're computing singlets right now, then you can't have a doublet--it's not physically possible.
Triplet and quintet are the configurations to try.
@paracetamol Sure, might as well -- more depth on the topic can't hurt.
 
ah right, odd and even electrons thingy. Right, will try a triplet then
gaussian keep berating me with that whenever I get the counting wrong
 
Yep. Software gets grouchy when your electron count doesn't add up. :-)
 
....pretty sure if a quintet is a ground state it will be very weird...
 
If this is what's going on, with Rh(I) in the picture I would guess the quintet would be what works best.
Nah, happens all the time
Look up "high-spin transition metal complex"
Think about Aufbau filling of the valence d-orbital
It's way more complex a thing than Aufbau, but if you do have a high-spin complex then the paradigm fits.
 
4:12 PM
when checking energies and geometry of the current batch (including the failed ones) this is the most wacky indenylrhodium complex I have ever seen (it is not even tetrahedral)
T-01-01-03-01-08a0.xyz
 
sulfonates?
 
phosphines
 
ah
The Rh isn't tetrahedral?
AFAIK very few transition metal complexes are tetrahedral
usually you only see Td with main group complexes, IIUC.
 
Well, these class of complexes normally like to take a pseudo octahedral geometry (when the eta bonds of the indenyl are included)
but this one seemed to try to fall apart but failed given how distorted the tether is
 
Oh weird -- is that some sort of C=C side-on coordination of the indenyl?
 
4:16 PM
yeah, $\eta^2$ coordination of indenyls are uncommon but not unheard of
 
What are you trying to do to that poor rhodium?
I mean, I know that, e.g., ethylene does side-on coordination sometimes... but a polycyclic? Yow.
Very interesting.
What method are you using? DFT?
 
yeah, (you cannot do these with ab initio, not without taking years)
 
If you're working on a computing cluster, you might be able to handle DLPNO-CCSD(T) in ORCA.
 
I see, my PhD project already done all the benchmarking with DFT stuff though, so we are going to keep using it
 
A decent functional is probably worth it for this screening stage, though
<nod>, makes sense
 
4:19 PM
we are lucky to have PBEPBE to be our best performing functional as the benchmarking shows
so we can do optimisations with it also extremely quickly (cannot tell how quick else those gaussian pying eyes will sue me)
 
Is there a new tag we can use instead of the deprecated #homework one?
 
@szentsas For what purpose?
We're trying to move away from tagging things as specifically being homework problems or not, so there are no plans to replace with anything else.
 
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Q: Reaction of Limestone with HCL

Goel Ansh When a piece of limestone react with dilute HCL, a gas X is passed through lime water then a white precipitate Y is formed. On passing excess of gas X, the white precipitate dissolves forming a soluble compound Z. Identify X, Y and Z. White the chemical equation taking place.

 
http://crimmingroup.org/blog/blog.html
Greens et. al. has a eta2 indenyl. Indenyls are more commonly found as eta3 or eta5 (and very rarely, eta1) though
I recall I also used one paper on my thesis introduction that has a eta2 inidenyl, but since it s late at night, I am not bother to try to find it and dig it up
 
@Secret Looks like you're trying to crowd the indenyl away from eta5 via sterics?
 
4:29 PM
nope, we are trying to understand the electronic trend that controls the structural indenyl effect (the stablisation of indenyl complexes due to the conformation of the ligands wrt the indenyl ligand)
this is why the data set is so huge as we screen like 600 molecules for each batch
 
Huh... anything to do with the potential for ligand-ligand charge-transfer?
And/or NCI?
 
We use NCI as our supercomputer, but we don't expect any charge transfer stuff to happen since they are all in ground state and there is no electrochemistry
 
Oh, sorry: "non-covalent interactions"
 
I will suspect it will probably be minimal since the ligands we picked are specifically to not be very bulky so that only the electronics will be in focus
 
Mmmm... phosphines, aromatics... yeah, I guess I could see minimal charge transfer there.
Are these aqueous complexes?
 
4:34 PM
they are, and they are not very sensitive
the actual complexes have some extra benzene rings at the tether, thus the computation only serve as a guide on where to look next, though more detailed computations were done for the benchmark studies and some experimental complexes
 
Do you expect waters to coordinate to the phosphines at all?
 
that I am not sure, cause phosphines are often quite stable in many 1st and 2nd row metal complexes. If I recall, I think we don't have any aqua containing complex being isolated, though the complexes we have so far synthesized are sulfoxide and sulfane tethers
phosphines are good sigma donors if I recall?
I only remember their pi accepting properties
 
I don't know a lot about it
But at a high level I would expect phosphines to be good Lewis bases, like amines
And thus you might get hydrogen bonding or some other such happening between those and water?
Mmm, though you're coordinating through those basic sites
So they indeed might be inert to H-bonded solvent interactions
 
T-01-01-00-00a0.com has failed (as expected). Now preparing the triplet calculations
 
@Secret So, yeah, don't let me second-guess what you're doing -- I'm a dilettante at best, here.
 
4:47 PM
Don't worry, you and martin and pentavalentcarbon and terdon have been very helpful in giving me good computational chemistry advice on how to troubleshoot calculations, I really appreciate it
I am probably a lot more amateur than you guys on quantum computing despite doing a PhD and most of the time I only can rely on my chemical knowledge and the property that things roll downhill in a PES to guide my calculations
 
Hehe - I have no formal training in quantum chem at all. Everything I know, I got from tinkering away over and over again at calculations, from reading manymany papers, and from asking other people their thoughts.
The more you do it, the better you'll get at it.
 
That is true
 
Don't let impostor syndrome get you down.
 
Zhe
@hBy2Py +1
You want to operate in the sweet spot between Dunning-Kruger and imposter syndrome
 
Waves at @Zhe
 
Zhe
4:59 PM
@paracetamol \o
 
\o/
Anyone into amateur/experimental rocketry here?
(I doubt it, but thought I'd ask anyways..) O:)
I'd like to know if there are any guides on solid-fuel rocket propellants 3:)
 
@paracetamol Would have loved to have gotten into it as a kid, but sadly no, no experience here.
@Zhe There's probably a really entertaining Internet meme to be made of this.
 
ok, triplets just submitted. Wish me luck
144 molecules!
 
Hehe
I bet the triplet will converge, but I also bet the quintet will be lower-energy
 
now to go to sleep
 
5:05 PM
@hBy2Py Sniffle
@Secret G'nite o/
 
@Secret Aww, so I have to wait until tomorrow to find out the end of the story?!?
Dude!
Internet-age attention span over here!
 
Not a "recipe-book" per se, but more of a catalogue that lists common solid-fuel propellants O:)
@hBy2Py Brian, meh, I developed my passion for amateur rocketry about 20 minutes ago, so I'm just as nascent (or so I'd like to think) O:)
 
@paracetamol Very high-level overview on p20 of this PDF (numbered internally as p18)
I think Estes is one of the major motor manufacturers in the US; the name sounds familiar to me.
Looks like they won't ship internationally, though, at least from the website.
 
Whoa, thanks! How long did it take you to look this all up? 8D
 
45-60 seconds?
 
5:16 PM
@hBy2Py Yeah, I ran into one of their PDFs a few minutes ago, fairly useful for a total noob (such as I) O:)
@hBy2Py Ah, I forgot, you type lightning-quick XD
 
:-D
 
@hBy2Py I'd like an even higher level overview than what's provided there (no, this isn't Dunning-Kruger at work... I'm just interested in the exact kind/composition of propellant)
Black powder isn't fun enough for me :'(
Rocket-candy is just as dull..
But this sounds promising 3:)
Ammonium perchlorate composite propellant (APCP) is a modern solid-fuel rocket used in rocket vehicles. It differs from many traditional solid rocket propellants such as black powder or zinc-sulfur, not only in chemical composition and overall performance, but also by the nature of how it is processed. APCP is cast into shape, as opposed to powder pressing as with black powder. This provides manufacturing regularity and repeatability, which are necessary requirements for use in the aerospace industry. == Uses == Ammonium perchlorate composite propellant is typically used in aerospace propulsion...
 
I think that Ohio 4-H PDF said that some of them use the same material as is used in NASA solid boosters
 
:O
Re-reads again
 
@paracetamol famous last words
 
5:21 PM
XD
 
Looks like it may be that ammonium perchlorate stuff you discovered, with metallic Al as the fuel
..... you know to be really stinkin' careful around perchlorates, right?
 
The perchlorate it is then! :D
@hBy2Py Not a chemist, but I've watched enough Nurdrage to know ;P
Tickles @Loong
@hBy2Py Since I'm a noob; what kind of binder would you recommend? It'd help if it's commonly available/ (relatively) easy to synthesize O:)
I guess PVA glue won't really cut it X3
^ Best I've got
 
I ... will not be helping you play with perchlorates, my friend.
 
:'O
 
Plus, I really don't know anything about rocket propellants. No advice available to give.
 
5:26 PM
Slumps into chair
<--- Heartbroken
@hBy2Py So, how goes?
O:)
 
Well, all told. Not as busy as it was from mid-2016 through end-2017, thankfully.
Interesting stuff to work on.
 
Ooh? Such as? 8D
If you don't mind telling, that is O:)
 
I'm not able to go into too much detail, unfortunately.
 
Pats back
 
But I'm putting what I learned in graduate transport to direct and extensive use, for the first time since grad school
So, that's fun
 
5:29 PM
@hBy2Py Because it's boring or secretive? 8O
 
Boundary layer mass transport.
 
Too broad ^ XD
 
Mainly because I should be working :-)
 
:O
What time is it over there?
 
But you can read about what I've been working on most, lately, here: ecsarxiv.org/wybx6
1:30 pm
Eastern Daylight
UTC-4
 
5:31 PM
Very detailed, thank you X3
@hBy2Py What would "difficult-to-cut" materials include?
 
Nickel alloys, cobalt alloys, tungsten, tantalum, niobium, others
 
You guys sure work with a lot of interesting stuff :3
Googles uses for tantalum
 
> Due to its high density, shaped charge and explosively formed penetrator liners have been constructed from tantalum. Tantalum greatly increases the armor penetration capabilities of a shaped charge due to its high density and high melting point.
Drools in anticipation
 
Zhe
@paracetamol beryllium
 
5:39 PM
> Tantalum is also highly bioinert and is used as an orthopedic implant material.
@Zhe :O
@hBy2Py You guys ever tried extending your "etching process" (I know, I oversimplify) to beryllium?
I suppose it's oxide layer would be an issue...and being an alkali earth metal probably doesn't help...
 
@paracetamol The lighter group II metals usually aren't too terribly challenging
The oxides aren't passivating, and so they dissolve pretty readily in acidic electrolytes
I've written a couple of proposals for electrochemical etching for Be forming, but none got funded.
 
Oh? But wouldn't the metal reacting with water be an issue? (Not as vigorous as group I, but still..)
 
The reaction is slow enough that it's not a huge concern
 
@hBy2Py Nice edit; I was about to ask you about calcium XD
 
You can stick a chunk of Mg metal in water and it will only gas very slightly
 
5:43 PM
Nods
 
Gassing from submerged Be is nigh-on undetectable to the eye, AFAIK
 
Not sure how it'd fare as an electrode though ^^^
@hBy2Py Yep
 
Should hold up fine - just don't push the anodic potential very high
And, if you're worried about it, keep a cathodic protecting potential on it any time you're not actively pushing it anodic.
3-4 V should suffice to stop it from oxidizing.
 
Cathodic protecting potential? O:)
<-- Pleb
 
Group I and II metals react with water because, in the absence of an applied potential, it's very thermodynamically favorable for them to push their electrons onto water
 
5:46 PM
Nods
@hBy2Py Oh, wait..I get it..
 
If you apply a strong enough cathodic potential to them, you shift the thermo such that it's no longer favorable for them to shed electrons to water.
 
Slaps forehead Thanks :3
 
:-)
 
@hBy2Py But what you guys are doing is essentially (from my pleb POV) etching metals at a microscopic scale. At that scale, wouldn't the reaction of the metal with water, as slow as it is, be enough to ruin the design/etching?
 
@paracetamol Yes, potentially (no pun intended)
 
5:49 PM
<--- Bear with him
@hBy2Py :D
 
That's where our claim to fame is -- identifying pulsed waveform conditions that yield a high-performance process, that work even though things like that might be liable to happen.
 
:O
If I ever win a lottery, you'll be sure to have my backing! O:)
@hBy2Py Brian, nice big, green "Thank you" at the end; caught me off-guard XD
 
Hahaha, well, it always is appreciated when people are interested enough to come to a talk.
It's never a guaranteed thing that you'll have people in the audience, much less interested people.
 
@hBy2Py Apologies, my lack of the requisite knowledge prevents me from engaging ye further O:)
Skimming through that, the only thing I'm even remotely familiar with is Fick's law X3
 
Indeed, I cannot pretend that I don't know a lot of advanced stuff.
Always sooo much more to learn, though
 
6:02 PM
@hBy2Py Yep 8D
<--- Hoping I can juggle org.chem and general chem along with my syllabus O:3
<--- Hoping he can get ortho on board with his evil designs O:)
<--- Hoping he can find that mosquito that's been bugging him for the past 10 minutes ಠ_ಠ
 
Ugh. Mosquitoes == WORST
 
You should come to where I live then X'D
<--- Tropics
Or maybe Russia will do..
 
Zhe
@paracetamol You could not pay me enough money to work with chemicals again
 
@Zhe I could buy you lunch (someday), will that do? ;-)
 
Zhe
@paracetamol In all serious, no
 
6:10 PM
Sniffle
@Zhe So what happened? You seem to hate hands-on work with chemicals? 8D
Or did I interpret that wrong? ._.
 
Zhe
@paracetamol That is correct.
 
Leans forward to listen
 
Zhe
5 years is a long time to learn about yourself if you're paying attention
 
._.
Leans back in resignation
 
Zhe
Some people like working with chemicals
I'm not one of those people
Though I chose to learn it in a round about and stupid way
 
6:23 PM
Pats @Zhe on the back gently
 
@Zhe I've learned I'm not one of those people either, really.
I can do it, but it's not a strength, and it stresses me out
 
:O
You guys scare me ._.
 
It's not just chemicals -- I'm actually not a very natural experimentalist in general.
I don't like it when things don't work the first time. :-)
 
^ I concur with that
 
Zhe
@hBy2Py I'm OK with things not working the first time
It's just that they won't work any other time either
 
6:27 PM
Hahaha
 
I clearly missed out on a lot on Chem.SE:
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Q: Is identifying a chemical equivalent to be able to produce it?

JacobianThis question is a follow up of another thread, where we are discussing Theresa May's accusation of the Russian government which is supposedly behind the recent chemical attack in the UK. Soon after the attack the UK implemented a chemical analysis which again supposedly shows that this compound...

permeakra's answer has a surprising number of downvotes (5); nothing in his post strikes me as incorrect :/
 
Zhe
7:05 PM
The biggest mistake is probably attempting to answer a question like this
 
^ Point X3
 
 
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9:40 PM
@hBy2Py stop splitting hairs cc @para. You know what I mean
 
9:51 PM
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hello, there's anybody out there?
 

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