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6:13 AM
@LordStryker My profile only says "1,079 posts edited", so I am quite far away from being 1337 and even further from being 31337 :D
 
 
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Q: "Is my calculation correct" is back again

Del PateThe answers of What should be done with "Is my calculation correct ?"-type questions? clear out that questions need not be deleted by the OP/Community. Note: This is the Part-2 of the same issue but instead of editing it, I am starting this new thread so that the comments,answers and votes on ...

 
7:56 AM
@Wildcat I can't view it :(
@Martin-マーチン What happened about that football match? How was the experience?
And thank you for this. Its neat:
You can bookmark an entire conversation in chat, and link to it. I did it for you and inserted the link. — Martin - マーチン 1 hour ago
 
@user223679 You are welcome... I always wanted to use this feature :D
Football was great, weather was almost too awesome, so sunny.
We ended up watching a draw, drinking a lot of beer and eating japanese fast food
nom nom nom
At that day I was so tired, I went to bed at about 9 lol
woke up way to early to go to work
 
@Martin-マーチン lol. So came on Chem.SE?
 
Nope, stayed in bed, had some coffee and went in just a little bit early
that's nice for a change
I am often in the chat during work hours anyway
 
Whats your take on that phosphrus question? @Martin-マーチン
 
I really don't know... never even thought about it
I will have a look at my book, see if they mention anything...
 
 
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9:07 AM
@Martin-マーチン Alright.
 
 
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11:47 AM
 
Hellas @Wildcat
 
Hi @Martin-マーチン!
 
How are things going?
 
Not so well. :D Need to finish a monograph. But permanent procrastination gives me almost no chance to do so.
 
Ohhh... yeah, procrastination..
i know that well
 
11:55 AM
I hate writing. Do not know why, but I always hated it. From my childhood. :D
 
I understand that, it feels like a chore, probably because it is one...
I do sometimes enjoy it though, gives me a break from thinking too much about my current research problems...
 
Yeah, but my only research problem now is to write this stupid monograph. :D
 
haha... good luck then, happy thought might help
like a dancing hamster or something...
when ever I have to do some stupid chores I am thinking that I can reward myself with icecream... that helps ;)
 
I like the edit to the chat guidelines :)
I hope you didn't feel bullied into changing it ;)
 
@tschoppi Nope, not at all. You made a quite compelling argument
I am happy for any feedback
 
12:08 PM
heya @Martin-マーチン
 
hey there what's up?
 
did someone say dancing hamsters?? hampsterdance.com/classics/originaldance.htm
 
Yes exactly!
 
OOOOLD SCHOOOOOL!
 
12:20 PM
yaayo!
 
@tschoppi !! whatsupwithchabadselfnao son?!
 
Just graded a report
it's the only one that got the best mark possible
I might be picky but this was like a pearl of works.
Beautifully typeset (of course using LaTeX) and very well written
The term is ending soon and when I have put all marks I will have to check how they are distributed. I hope I'll learn something from myself
 
LaTeX is a beast
 
12:37 PM
Interestingly enough you might also manage using Word or Writer
But it's just so much less of a hassle when you use LaTeX
But try explaining that to students. Lazy bastards, as I was one
 
after being forced to use LaTeX for five years, I can't imagine using anything else now
 
I got a nice template document from a friend of mine
That got me hooked, because it was more of a select-and-rematch thing
Now I know all the nice tricks by heart
 
12:51 PM
i know gaussian has eigentest which, if it finds a negative eigenvalue it terminates the program. anyway to have gaussian optimize a molecule and to KEEP GOING if it finds ni=1 as opposed to ni=0?
 
thanks @Wildcat but that doesn't help me
 
or wait
 
I'm trying to minimize to a minimum on the PES but G09 keeps giving me a BS transition state
 
you're looking for true minimum but find TS instead?
 
1:00 PM
Correct
 
then you can
can't do anything
in Gaussian
 
Exactly what I thought :(
 
No way!
 
no way?
 
At least I'm not aware of it.
 
1:01 PM
me either
The worst is when I get an imaginary mode with a magnitude of about 12 cm-1 or less
thing is a complete itch you can't get to go away
 
You see. The geometry optimization tries to find not a minimum, but rather a stationary point. TS is also a stationary point. Thus, finding TS is 100% valid result of geometry optimization.
Try to manually shift atoms in the direction of imaginary frequency. GaussView can do that easily.
 
Yeah I know. I just wish there was a way to specify what type of minimum you want
With magnitudes that small, manually displacing along the mode is very difficult
The opts generally snap back to the original TS
may just do a partial opt/scan
 
Try tighter convergence criteria.
 
i have
also the biggest numerical integration grid i could get my hands on
SUPA-FINE GRID YO
anyway, its cool. I just wish there was a way to tell G09 to regect negative eigenvalue results and to keep going if it does encouter them
*encounter
 
Are you sure that it is TS?
Small imaginary frequency can be just a numerical problem.
 
1:07 PM
Yeah, its a TS. If the magnitude was around 5i cm-1 or less I'd agree with you
but these are around 9i to 19i
too big to ignore
 
Wait. When you say that you use SuperFineGrid
you mean
Int=(Grid=SuperFine)
?
 
yeah
well technically I mean a pruned grid consisting of 150 radial shells and 974 angular points per shell
but yes. that grid is superfine ;)
 
Yes, but do you know that this grid is used only in the SCF procedure and that Coupled Perturbed Hartree-Fock (CPHF) equations used to calculate frequencies use a different grid?
You can try to add something like Perturbed CPHF=(Grid=Fine)
or CPHF=(Grid=UltraFine)
I do not know which grid is used in CPHF when SuperFine grid is used in SCF.
But when one uses UltraFine grid in SCF, only SG1 grid is used in CPHF.
That might be a problem.
 
link is broken. could you resend it?
i'll check into it
thanks @Wildcat
 
1:14 PM
badgateway :\
i gotta run but I'll check in later
 
Hmmm... The link works for me pretty well.
 
 
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11:40 PM
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