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SoylentGray
SoylentGray
3:16 AM
@Kaz what interests me is how many solid connections there are to TWP from everywhere else. most other sites have just a few big hitters and a bunch of tiny ones.
and then to prove the ubernerd creativity connection... the overpowering connection from unix to worldbuilding LOL
 
 
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Rory Alsop
Rory Alsop
6:21 AM
I'm amused that Infosec has got connections to everywhere except Seasoned Advice, Cross Validatd and Math Overflow. I now have a challenge to work out a cooking question with security implications...
 
Lilienthal
Lilienthal
6:59 AM
@gnat Well at that point I'm going to have to ask you to link to this study of yours. It would be one thing to say that the conversion percentage of HNQ visitors into long-term contributors is low, which is reasonable. It's something else altogether to claim that the HNQ is a useless "drain on society" with no redeemable features. That's demonstrably untrue since we already have two examples of regulars finding this site through HNQ and I'm gonna guess there are more.
 
 
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motosubatsu
motosubatsu
8:27 AM
@Lilienthal Pretty sure HNQ was how I came to join TWP actually... it's certainly the way I've "discovered" some of the other SE sites
 
Kaz
Kaz
8:38 AM
@SoylentGray I suspect it's because "The Workplace" is one of those universally-relevant things in peoples' lives.
 
Kaz
Kaz
8:52 AM
@motosubatsu I don't remember how I got here, but HNQ was probably involved.
 
motosubatsu
motosubatsu
@Kaz all you know is you woke up with 150 rep and a traffic cone on your head?
 
Kaz
Kaz
@motosubatsu Something like that.
> Member for 2 years, 5 months
Wow, that's been a while.
Though apparently, it took me 9 months to write my first answer, and almost 2 years until my first (and only) question.
 
motosubatsu
motosubatsu
9:08 AM
I've only been here 4 months.. feels like longer (in a good way!)
 
Kaz
Kaz
9:20 AM
@RichardU Just took a look back at my first ever TWP answer, and it reminded me of you ^^ workplace.stackexchange.com/a/55274/31777
 
gnat
gnat
9:56 AM
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Q: Can we track the positive effects of a popular question?

DibstarIn response to this question, is there a way in which we can work out the positive effects on traffic and questions following this? I've noticed a few good questions from users with referral bonuses but otherwise new to workplace, and assume they've been directed as that question came under the ...

discussion specific-question
...and yet another one here:
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A: How can I encourage Stack Overflow to rein in the 'subjective' vigilantes?

yannistl;dr We already tried supporting those questions, we even gave them their own site. Sadly, it didn't work out. C'est la vie. In 2010, a Stack Exchange site called Not Programming Related came out of Area51, the Stack Exchange staging zone. NPR was supposed to be a site where questions that ...

 
 
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Lilienthal
Lilienthal
11:16 AM
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Q: What is the difference between being fired and being laid off?

DragonturtleThis may be seemingly obvious question, but I can't quite grasp the difference, and I also haven't found a satisfying answer. Is it something like when you get laid off you still get to work for a month ( or some time period ) at the company, and when fired, its instantaneous? Are there pros a...

termination layoff
Ugh, I'm tempted to hit the final close here just to get it off HNQ.
I actually think this is a good, albeit not great, question. But the answers are all pretty damn terrible.
 
Kaz
Kaz
@Lilienthal I don't think it's a bad question. It would help a lot to narrow it down to a specific region though.
 
 
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Richard U
Richard U
2:51 PM
@Kaz YEP, HR is NOT your friend
 
Feeds
Feeds
3:01 PM
0
Q: Can we make the accepted answer check mark greener?

SaggingRufusCan we make it greener, or make the colour of the voting button a different colour entirely? I thought I had seen an accepted answer on question because my down vote blue is not that far off from the accepted blueish green. On other stack exchange site, the accepted answer colour is very differ...

discussion user-interface
 
 
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Masked Man
Masked Man
4:43 PM
Is it unethical to downvote a post and also comment "this is a great answer, I wish I could upvote it more than once"?
 
David K
David K
@MaskedMan I think I'm going to need to see an example of a post that would warrant that response
 
Masked Man
Masked Man
@DavidK Ok, then let's just make it less cheesy with downvote an answer and comment "+1, good answer".
Since "is it unethical" seems to be the flavour of the week around here, I thought I might as well get that off my chest. ;-)
 
David K
David K
Lol, gotcha
And yeah, ethics questions have been going crazy lately
 
Masked Man
Masked Man
Speaking of which, is it "lying by omission" if I upvote an answer and do not comment +1 good answer? That phrase also gets thrown around a lot.
I just found out that waiting to get your bonus before handing in your resignation is seen as "lying by omission" in some places, which greatly confuses me, so I am using another example to try to understand it. ;-)
 
David K
David K
Is it professional to vote to close a question you haven't read?
 
Masked Man
Masked Man
4:52 PM
Is it common practice to make sarcastic remarks in chat about the main site?
 
David K
David K
Is it legal to be mean and unwelcoming to new users?
 
Richard U
Richard U
5:38 PM
Is it ethical to expose the ignorance of management?
 
Richard U
Richard U
6:14 PM
What happened to good manners?
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Q: Is it acceptable to bring a fidget cube to work?

Steven VascellaroI often find it difficult to stay focused for long periods of time without fidgeting in some way. Multiple studies1,2,3 have shown that fidgeting at work can help productivity . For me, this typically takes the form of paper clips, rubber bands, and pen clicking.. I've considered bringing a fidg...

professionalism work-environment distractions
the answers are downright abusive
 
Steven Vascellaro
Steven Vascellaro
@RichardU Yep. I screenshotted them just in case
Comments like those are exactly why I asked the question
 
Richard U
Richard U
@StevenVascellaro they've been deleted.
 
Steven Vascellaro
Steven Vascellaro
@RichardU There's already been 4 saying "No its a toy"
There's another getting downvote bombed now
 
Richard U
Richard U
@StevenVascellaro Since the community is kicking those answers to the curb, you have nothing to fear.
@StevenVascellaro I'm in IT, and people have Transformers on their desks, another guy had a bunch of rubber ducks. Don't let these people get to you.
 
Steven Vascellaro
Steven Vascellaro
Even so, the fact that some think that way, even if unjustified, is why I don't think the answer is as simple as "Sure, go ahead and bring it"
It's not necessarily something I need to focus
Even if the judgements are unjustified, as a 2 week-old intern, impressions are important
Also, hello! I'm pretty new to The Workplace. :P
 
Richard U
Richard U
6:25 PM
@StevenVascellaro don't look at what the individuals say, watch what the community does in response.
@StevenVascellaro I saw that, which is why I stepped in. I can assure you that the kind of abusive posts you've been receiving will not stand
Oh, and if you want to ping someone in here, use that @ sign before their name
 
Steven Vascellaro
Steven Vascellaro
@RichardU I don't think it's that simple. The abusive posts don't bother me really. I'm looking for a more neutral assessment weighing the negative connotations
 
enderland
enderland
@RichardU funny you mention those ducks, I just wrote an answer there using that example :)
 
Richard U
Richard U
@StevenVascellaro Well, welcome in any event. :D
 
Steven Vascellaro
Steven Vascellaro
Perfect example: My parents originally bought me the fidget cube to help with concentration, but even they were very hesitant about introducing it at work
 
Richard U
Richard U
\@StevenVascellaro enderland's answer is the best one.
 
Steven Vascellaro
Steven Vascellaro
6:29 PM
Even though they were trying to help, it became a touchy topic for me fairly quickly
 
Richard U
Richard U
@enderland great minds run in the same track
 
Steven Vascellaro
Steven Vascellaro
Agreed. Very good answer @enderland
"Ultimately, some people will horribly judge you, some will not care, and some will find it really interesting."
I'd bold that
 
Erik
Erik
I think in your job the reaction will be roughly the same as here: if anyone makes a problem about it, the rest of the office will probably look poorly on them, not you
 
enderland
enderland
@Erik it depends on the environment too
I've worked in major finance offices, where appearance matters a bit more
I was known as "the guy with a fancy keyboard/mouse" because I used an ergo keyboard of my own >.>
 
Erik
Erik
Yeah, I was assuming a workplace that wasn't entirely drone-like :P
 
Richard U
Richard U
6:34 PM
@Erik I think not having a degree and a few other quirks about me has actually been helpful to my career. I would never fit into such rigid environments.
 
Erik
Erik
Yeah, I avoid those as well
 
enderland
enderland
@StevenVascellaro I try to avoid bolding unless absolutely necessary, normally only do it if I have a way too tl;dr post hah
oh man that question looks HNQ bound already
 
Steven Vascellaro
Steven Vascellaro
@enderland I kinda expected it to. :P
I was really surprised to see nobody had asked that question yet
 
Richard U
Richard U
@enderland I was surprised at the rudeness of some of the answers. One of them was written by a user who's been irking people lately.
oooooo, the one related undeleted rude answer is getting bombed.
 
Steven Vascellaro
Steven Vascellaro
Somehow, I didn't expect fidget cubes be more controversial than my last trending question
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Q: What is a less controversial name for the clothing item known as a "wife-beater" in the United States?

Steven VascellaroIn the United States, a white sleeveless shirt is often referred to as a "wife-beater". Typically I try to avoid using "wife-beater" due to its negative connotation. I've tried using a few different terms in the past, but each felt a bit too broad or generalized. Tank Top: Can refer to formal ...

word-choice word-usage american-english offensive-language alternative
I'm still trying to get that post removed from my "hot network questions"
 
enderland
enderland
6:44 PM
@StevenVascellaro I don't think you can, you mean on your "network profile?"
 
Richard U
Richard U
@StevenVascellaro You're a controversy magnet, eh? :D
 
Steven Vascellaro
Steven Vascellaro
@enderland Yeah. It's my third highest ranked question stackexchange.com/users/4030991/steven-vascellaro
@RichardU It only seems to happen in communities I'm not an active member in. :P
 
Richard U
Richard U
@StevenVascellaro My answers here tend to be very highly rated when I take someone to task, for some reason.
 
enderland
enderland
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Q: Question still appears in my top network posts even after having it disassociated from my account

AlliterativeAliceA while back I asked to have a question disassociated from my account (this one). It was, but today I noticed that it still appears on my profile under "Top Network Posts".

bug stackexchange.com network-profile
 
Steven Vascellaro
Steven Vascellaro
@enderland Also related
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Q: Top posts taken from hidden communities

RajuFrom Edit Profile & Settings, we have below information Hide Communities Choose which communities will appear in the Communities and Top Network Posts sections of your profile Hiding a community means other users will not see it in your Communities list or Top Network Post...

bug network-profile hidden-communities top-network-posts
 
enderland
enderland
6:50 PM
yeah it's annoying
 
Steven Vascellaro
Steven Vascellaro
7:04 PM
Considering his earlier answer, this comment seems a bit ironic.
 
Kaz
Kaz
7:18 PM
@enderland I have, at last count, 3 dragons and an origami swan inhabiting my desk ^^
Though actually, I'm probably most notable for being "The LARP guy".
 
Steven Vascellaro
Steven Vascellaro
I'm hoping to become known as "That guy who knows how to use AutoHotkey"
 
Kaz
Kaz
@StevenVascellaro I think the word you're looking for is "Magician" ^^
 
David K
David K
7:38 PM
I have one of those shirts hanging up that says "I'm a ___ because BADASS isn't an official job title"
@StevenVascellaro Honestly, I don't think you have to worry about employers seeing that question. The fact that you are trying to find a more appropriate term to use should reflect positively.
The only thing might be explaining why you wanted to know in the first place, which could be completely benign, or just "I was curious"
 
Steven Vascellaro
Steven Vascellaro
@DavidK That's why I haven't disassociated the question from my account. I'm not necessarily ashamed of the question, but it makes me hesitant to link my network profile on a resume.
 
David K
David K
@StevenVascellaro I'm not sure how useful linking your SE profile would be anyways. I think you'd have to be a pretty high-rep user for it to matter
 
enderland
enderland
I'm always curious if my Workplace profile is a positive or a negative :v
 
David K
David K
@enderland I think if an employer saw the time of day that I usually post it would be a negative...
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Richard U
Richard U
Is that one answer to Steven's question not getting deleted because people are having too much fun down-voting it?
 
David K
David K
7:53 PM
@RichardU It just needs 1 more
 
enderland
enderland
@DavidK "personal development" ?
 
Steven Vascellaro
Steven Vascellaro
What happens to rep if an answer is deleted from flagging?
 
enderland
enderland
@StevenVascellaro if it's deleted as a "rude/offensive" the user gets a 100 rep penalty (and loses all from the post, too)
 
Richard U
Richard U
beat me to it.
 
enderland
enderland
8:15 PM
Beth always has such good answers
 
Steven Vascellaro
Steven Vascellaro
What is up with these comments?
What kind of person compares a fidget cube to a vibrator?
 
Richard U
Richard U
@StevenVascellaro that would be Kilisi. He's..... Kilisi.
 
Steven Vascellaro
Steven Vascellaro
I'm attracting all the interesting characters, aren't I?
 
Richard U
Richard U
8:31 PM
@StevenVascellaro you get used to Kilisi. He always speaks his mind, no matter the consequences
AAAAAAAAAAAND another one....
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Q: Colleague is writing hours he did not work

user8935718347678146I work a software engineer and recently we hired someone to be our scrum master. He works as a contractor. Once I heard him ask a software engineer colleague (that is also a contractor): "When you're not working, you're not writing hours right?" This scrum master often leaves around 14:00. I ass...

work-environment scrum
 

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