@gnat I agree that it changed the question too much from the original, and am glad to see you roll it back. Plus, I think the revised question may be a duplicate :)
@BVR The question has no problem to solve. Ethics are not on topic here and obviously you recognise it is not terribly professional to do so. There is no question I can see that would be on topic and constructive here.
I have almost completed my masters degree in computer science. I have interviewed at a lot of companies, where they told me that they don't think a Masters degree is necessary for a software developer.
They don't give any special preference to a Masters degree holder: in their eyes we have the ...
I agree about the masters question. The title is super broad and not a good summary of the question, but the question itself is constructive and on topic. The OP thought that lucrative offers would be coming in because of the masters, and they're not, and wants to know why. Some answers have made it clear that software doesn't much value advanced degrees, and have suggested particular industry segments that would
others (including mine) are suggesting demonstrating the skills to get the better paying jobs. None of the answers are getting into list territory, and people are not writing opinion based answers. I don't see Not Constructive there at all.
@Rachel "earn" in title could attract answerers making irrelevant suggestions on how it could be leveraged after getting employed. On the other hand, "negotiate" sets a closer expectation that question is being asked from a perspective of someone passing interviews, which better fits question text ("interviewed at a lot of companies...")
@gnat Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. There are many ways to "earn" money, however the OP is specifically asked about getting a higher salary because of his degree
I've already edited the question though. I used the phrase "get a higher salary" instead of "negotiate more money" because I didn't think the question was only about salary negotiation tactics
@gnat Oh... I didn't look at the original version of the question this time. I just saw the chat discussion and Kate saying the title was super-broad. For some reason I thought that was the original OP version of the question. Very unlike me to do any edit without checking the original version
@Rachel The original question asked basically that it also had a retorical question in there that if you took it as an actual question would make it too broad. I do not think the OP actually meant for that to be answered, rather wanted to know how he could make more money at entry level with a masters degree.
I think the answer is get some experience and success under your belt but...
I'm surprised HGLEM's answer has been downvoted so much since I last saw it. I thought the last sentence summed it up the problem fairly well: "But ordinary web development or Enterprise application jobs? Nah they don't need or want to pay for your Master's degree."
Actually I re-read the comment on it and it makes sense - The answer isn't really that helpful in regards to the actual question of how to use a degree to make more money :)
@Rachel The answer is not constructive. If the question was should I get a masters degree, or would a masters degree help that would be different. The OP already has the masters telling him he wasted his time is not constructive.
@Rachel There are queite a few of us with no advanced degree that have alot of experience that get really tired of newly crowned graduates telling us what we are doing wrong
Those still trying to pay of student loans seem to be the most bitter :p
But then again, I recognize that my schooling didn't prepare me for the real world. It really just gave me a starting point and the resources I needed to figure things out if I took the initiative to keep learning.
I was curious if it made a difference. I went to ITT Tech for a degree in software programming, and I enjoyed the material even if I sometimes hated my classmates :)
Yeah I had some great parents despite our disagreements... always encouraged me that I could and should do whatever I wanted, and to ignore what others said :)
I was actually considering going back to school for another degree
I should probably have done community college looking back.... itt-tech wasn't really worth the price tag in terms of course work and teachers, although they did have some great resources
Wasn't there some research done by IBM or something that estimated there would never be a market for personal computers back them?
I figured computers and technology would be the way of the future, and they'd need someone to create/maintain the computers so it would be a safe career investment :)
I am easily distracted by noise and annoying noises especially.
I am newer to my current job (~6 months) and have a co-worker about 30 feet from my desk that LOVES to eat any type of thing that goes in a bowl: oatmeal, soup, noodles, porridge, chili, you name it!! The co-worker is also a friend ...
A competitor has been stealing employees from my company. We are partners, but we have recently undergone a rough patch while they are growing massively. About 8 of our former employees now work there, in some cases it is evident that 2 weeks notice was not offered when they left us.
I suspect t...
If there was I do not know. I am not sure this is illegal(criminal) but rather in breach of contract anyway. And I do not think the OP is saying people need to go to jail for itl.
@Chad I wouldn't say it's asking for a legal opinion - I read the question more as "I suspect there is some illegal activity going on. Should I report it?", which isn't off-topic for here
@atconway I read on your profile that you are a Senior Architect with 11 years of experience. With that title and that amount of experience I am somewhat surprised that you need to ask here for advice, and more surprised to see your responses to comments you do not like. If you react similarly in your team, you risk being perceived as being the one with an attitude problem and not the ones annoying you. Talk to your common boss in private and ask how you should solve your problem, and consider having your door closed e.g. From 8-10 and 13-15 and open the rest of the time. — Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen6 mins ago
Blowing off steam for no good reason: Personally I make extra money with my master's degree by (insert illegal activity that uses paper: forgery, counterfeiting, rolling stuff in it and smoking it, whatever). Really, folks, what I did in grad school while you were busy getting all that experience that as you say doesn't require grad school skillz was writing a lot of code that requires grad school skillz. Now I have grad school skillz. Do you want me to take to heart that it was a waste of time?
Well, I feel better, or at least no worse. Bye now.
@Rachel well it's not necessarily true for many companies, so, well, it's wrong in many senses to tell someone "your advanced degree is not valuable"
that being said, if you hang out in school taking classes without really doing "real work" then yes it is a waste in some sense, but my masters has given me a TON of value I probably wouldn't have gotten if I had gone into a "code monkey" job - I was doing software architecting for a large scale project and had to deal with that code for several years. Most undergrads have code for 4 months, and normally the architecture can be hacked/broken into working in these situations
@Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen: Senior architects with 11 years of experience are good at solving problems. I have a hard time believing that this guy is a senior architect with 11 years of experience. He doesn't know how to close his door or tell an obese coworker to skip the 8th bowl of cereal in the afternoon. — Jim G.3 mins ago
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