TUG2015 - 2015-07-17

Joseph Wright

8:54 AM

Welcome! This room is for discussion about the TUG2015 meeting taking place in Darmstadt, 20th to 22nd July 2015

Paulo Cereda

11:07 AM

Quack!

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Paul Gessler

@PaulMcCartney is in the house! I'll be working for a few hours this morning, then heading to the airport to catch my flight. Quack!

Paulo Cereda

@PaulGessler Yay! Have safe and fun trip. :)

Joseph Wright

Sounds like people are already beginning to arrive: @barababeeton is presumably on a flight now

I don't travel until late Sunday so will only see people on Monday

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright I suspect it will be about 8 ~ 10 hours from America to Frankfurt.

Joseph Wright

@PauloCereda Something in that range sounds about right

Arthur Reutenauer

11:47 AM

Have a safe trip @PaulGessler! See you in Darmstadt.

I’ll be coming from Brittany, where I have a family reunion, late-ish on Sunday. Then flying back to Britain on Thursday at noon.

While I’m at it, I might as well say this: I will have to work for my day job during the conference. I am not taking a holiday, and going to the conference on company time was completely out of the question. So my plan was to sit at the back of the conference room and put in my eight hours for my job, which means I won’t be able to pay close attention to every talk. But I’ll be available for questions of course.

I’ll also have to get out for our daily brief, which is at 10.15 London time, hence 11.15 CEST. That means I’ll be missing part of both your talks @JosephWright :-/

Stefan Kottwitz

Just booked my flights for the TUG meeting, arriving Frankfurt Sunday, 13:10

Joseph Wright

@ArthurReutenauer Phew: sounds like hard work

@ArthurReutenauer At least you can do your job remotely

@ArthurReutenauer Oh well

Arthur Reutenauer

@JosephWright I’ll survive :-) Yes, it’s really great to be allowed to work remotely. In May I spent two days in Rome, sightseeing during the day and catching up work in the evening :-)

Paul Gessler

12:07 PM

@ArthurReutenauer @PauloCereda thank you both! :-)

Arthur Reutenauer

@StefanKottwitz Do you get any special fare from Lufthansa? :-)

Paulo Cereda

@ArthurReutenauer He will be the pilot. :)

Das Airplanepilot!

egreg

I'm leaving tomorrow morning, with a stop for the night at Landsberg am Lech. I'll be in Darmstadt on Sunday afternoon.

Joseph Wright

12:37 PM

@egreg Nice

@ArthurReutenauer Sounds like our travel is much the same

Joseph Wright

12:58 PM

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Stefan Kottwitz

1:32 PM

@ArthurReutenauer Sure, I don't pay the flight.

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Arthur Reutenauer

@StefanKottwitz Wow! That’s cool :-)

Stefan Kottwitz

@ArthurReutenauer They saw my TikZ programmed network drawings, and TeX-macro-generated switch config files, and considered this as useful for the company, so they support my TeX conference travel

Arthur Reutenauer

@StefanKottwitz That’s great. I couldn’t dream of my company sponsoring my trip :-)

David Carlisle

@StefanKottwitz maybe I should have done that sort of thing instead of obfuscated Christmas carols.

Joseph Wright

1:53 PM

@StefanKottwitz That's almost worth a star :-)

OK, so chat-based survey: other than @StefanKottwitz, who is going in an official capacity? (Work supporting travel or at least allowing the days not to be 'holiday')

barbara beeton

4:06 PM

@JosephWright i'm here. i'm "official". (hi, all.)

egreg

@barbarabeeton Welcome to Europe!

barbara beeton

4:22 PM

@egreg -- thanks. trying to cope via ipad; gordon has locked the laptop in the room safe, but didn't tell me the code, and i don't want to wake him. i've already encountered a couple other tug-goers: boris veytsman and pavneet arora. all still recovering from jet lag.

egreg

@barbarabeeton Short night. The worst.

Johannes_B

5:16 PM

@barbarabeeton Welcome to germany :-)

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Arthur Reutenauer

7:53 PM

Good luck @barbarabeeton. Hopefully you’re sleeping now.

And welcome to Europe :-) I’m on the boat from Portsmouth to Saint-Malo, with a semblance of Internet connection through the ship’s satellite link.

egreg

@ArthurReutenauer Will you have some moules?

Arthur Reutenauer

@egreg Not sure yet. It’s not very Breton, too be honest ;-)

Joseph Wright

9:16 PM

@ArthurReutenauer Ooh: fun

@ArthurReutenauer With hindsight, wish I'd gone for the train rather than flying

Stefan Kottwitz

@JosephWright Oh no! Fly Lufthansa!

They like TeX :-)

Big topic is Big data (see website (lufthansa-industry-solutions.com/home.html) )- how would you print big data ... with Word? ;-)

Joseph Wright

@StefanKottwitz I am

@StefanKottwitz So is @DavidCarlisle

Stefan Kottwitz

@JosephWright Very good! Want a class upgrade? ;-)

Arthur Reutenauer

9:57 PM

@StefanKottwitz I am too! On my way back to London. Can I get a class upgrade? ;-)

@JosephWright I’ll be taking the train too, from Saint-Malo to Darmstadt (via Paris), so I’ll really have done it all, so to speak :-)

Joseph Wright

@ArthurReutenauer Cool

Arthur Reutenauer

This satellite connection really is better than I expected.

Stefan Kottwitz

@ArthurReutenauer VSAT? C-band? Ku-band?

@ArthurReutenauer ping latency usually 600 ms, otherwise it depends on booked bandwidth or WAN optimization tool

Arthur Reutenauer

10:18 PM

@StefanKottwitz No idea, I’m afraid. I know very little about these things.

What can I do to test my current connection in this respect?

Stefan Kottwitz

@ArthurReutenauer "ping latex-community.org" shows you latency ;-) with geostationary satellite and european terrestrial station 600 ms. With US earth station 800 ms.

normal WAN 20-40 ms

Arthur Reutenauer

@StefanKottwitz That’s over 1s

PING latex-community.org (78.46.26.59) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from static.59.26.46.78.clients.your-server.de (78.46.26.59): icmp_seq=1 ttl=46 time=1136 ms
64 bytes from static.59.26.46.78.clients.your-server.de (78.46.26.59): icmp_seq=2 ttl=46 time=1306 ms
64 bytes from static.59.26.46.78.clients.your-server.de (78.46.26.59): icmp_seq=3 ttl=46 time=1687 ms

etc.

Stefan Kottwitz

@ArthurReutenauer Wow! Looks like bad 3G or saturated satellite

Arthur Reutenauer

@StefanKottwitz I wouldn’t expect any better anyway: I’m just using the public wifi on a passenger ferry over the English Channel.

Stefan Kottwitz

@ArthurReutenauer I'm used to cruise ship satellite connections and the data comes from there

Arthur Reutenauer

10:24 PM

@StefanKottwitz I assume they’re reserving some of the connection for the ship’s essential communications (I really hope they do!)

Fun anyway :-)

Stefan Kottwitz

@ArthurReutenauer hopefully not too expensive

Arthur Reutenauer

@StefanKottwitz Oh, it’s free, I wouldn’t use it otherwise :-D

Stefan Kottwitz

@ArthurReutenauer Are you using Windows or Linux?

Arthur Reutenauer

@StefanKottwitz I’ve had fun with free wifi on Norwegian too (sorry, not Lufthansa!)

@StefanKottwitz Linux

Stefan Kottwitz

@ArthurReutenauer what does traceroute latex-community.org say?

Arthur Reutenauer

10:29 PM

Hum, Telenor, it seems ...

@StefanKottwitz Here comes the full output:

traceroute to latex-community.org (78.46.26.59), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
1 10.21.240.1 (10.21.240.1) 1.834 ms 1.869 ms 2.138 ms
2 10.138.51.179 (10.138.51.179) 4.041 ms 4.077 ms 4.294 ms
3 10.138.51.179 (10.138.51.179) 4.416 ms 4.536 ms 4.664 ms
4 10.107.61.1 (10.107.61.1) 1497.985 ms 1498.161 ms 1497.698 ms
5 148.122.187.13 (148.122.187.13) 1498.301 ms 1498.608 ms 1498.434 ms
6 148.122.180.6 (148.122.180.6) 1585.141 ms 1268.477 ms 1132.412 ms
7 ti0086a430-ge1-2-0-16.ti.telenor.net (194.248.41.17) 1132.596 ms 1133.114 ms 1132.747 ms

Stefan Kottwitz

@ArthurReutenauer Ah, I know them, but I thought they were bought by Vizada (lot of names, Sealink, Marlink, ...)

Arthur Reutenauer

@StefanKottwitz I think the advertised name is Marlink, I saw that at some point when I connected to the wifi point.

Stefan Kottwitz

@ArthurReutenauer Yes, I used to work with them. Their earth station is Eik Teleport in Norway

Arthur Reutenauer

@StefanKottwitz Nice. Anyway, I think I’ve got another problem right now, the bar is closing.

Stefan Kottwitz

Run! :-) good night

Arthur Reutenauer

10:41 PM

@StefanKottwitz They weren’t closing after all ;-)

The ship is running on British time for some reason, so it’s one hour earlier, so to speak.

Now my phone kindly informs me that it’s 23:47 by local time where I am, and that by contrast it’s 23:47 at home.

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