@RubberDuck Also, I hate the GPL. The strictness of it is just tiring and I try and stay away from it as much as possible. That's probably why I hate it so much :)
@All I've just posted a big meta discussion and site name criteria. I'd like to suggest we put a hold on choosing a name until we can resolve it
@RubberDuck The GPL was never focused on making it easier for developers. It's purpose is to ensure the freedom of the software. Humans are just side effects.
Tim Post (Director of Stack Overflow Communities) has visited this site before to help us with the issue of choosing a site name. He and the other staff had ruled out the 'Free & Open' name, but I do not think their explanations are sufficient. This post is a request to Tim or someone else in the...
@curiousdannii I would add my argument's if you really want to add bait:
@TimPost I think I would also have to present the argument that you also have successful sites such as Super User: which is definitely not a site about people who work on their computers. grow magical capes, and become superheroes :P There is an indirect relationship with that name: The fact that the site is about users, and I see the exact same principle here with this proposal. Non-Programmers aren't going to go to Stack Overflow because it's a site about stacked paper management that "overflows" their desk... – Zizouz212♦ Aug 12 at 11:36
> I think the SE staff have done us a great disservice. If they had returned and explained themselves 11 days ago then we might not be in this quagmire.
SE is a work environment: they won't expel their resources for a single site, and they have other priorities anyway. It's like a weekly meeting between everyone, and Tim Post told us quite a bit, which we have attempted to relay, but have instead gotten slammed down for not revealing some minor transcripts.
@curiousdannii I'm not sure. I'd love to see the input of a few more SE people here as well. Regardless, the thing to do here is wait, and carry on with any results. — Zizouz212 ♦Aug 14 at 0:10
@Zizouz212 You yourself have said you want more details!
I'm just putting in a formal request for more information as a Meta question, rather than another comment
@curiousdannii It's written...stiffly. Certainly remove that last paragraph; it may have some valid concern, but a rant is not the way to phrase it. That should improve it. The rest...just feels like it's written from the perspective of someone who's pissed off at the powers that be.
Look, I'll make sure that we get into contact sometime soon. Like I said, we'll keep the community posted on updates. But it's important to be reasonable, in that they are not solely in charge of this site.
@curiousdannii You'll have it. Our point here is that your meta post is unlikely to help matters. They've been informed, we poke them occasionally, they're not going to forget us. Meta posts that seem to accuse them of doing things wrong and badly aren't going to make them want to help.
@Zizouz212 I'm saying it could be because we don't know sufficiently how they judge the name suggestions. That's the whole point of the post. We just don't know. It would really suck if we thought they'd allow FLO but they decided to reject it
> believe I can speak for the community, and the moderator team in that we preferred the original proposed site name of Free & Open. I believe Tim Post had also strongly supported the suggestion, and attempted to present strong arguments in favour of the name.
However, one of the biggest concerns was still ambiguity.
Today, we had a visit from Tim Post to discuss our potential name change. After a meeting at Stack Exchange and some discussion in a chatroom, we've nearly settled on our site name:
Free & Open... something.
Free & Open was the highest voted suggestion on the site name brainstorming post, and b...
Now, Open Science/Reserach belongs on Open Science, will stay on Academia for the meantime. If you want to allow it, fine, but we're not promoting it. — Zizouz212 ♦1 hour ago
@Zizouz212 Is this the position of all the mods, that FLO licensed journals don't really belong here?
Hi, a few days ago I asked if a project using code under GPL should be all in GPL. Now i ask the same for MIT license, what are the differences between GPL and MIT licenses? (I'll leave this question here while i search, if it's recommended i'll ask in Open Source :P)
@AbhiBeckert so? You said yourself that they're the same result. I quote myself: There's nothing opposite about the products of Bill Gates and Linus Torvalds.
The fact that there are multiple approaches to a solution is granted. When asking questions, they should be specific enough to warrant a best approach.
@Unihedron 99% of questions have more than one "best approach" and which one is "best" will depend on individual circumstances. I'm not writing my answers to help the person who originally asked the question, I'm writing my answers to help everyone who ever has the same question and the best approach will be different for some of those other people. I've seen tons of questions (on more mature sites) where there is an accepted answer and five other answers that have hundreds of upvotes.
@curiousdannii @curiousdannii I don't think it's the position of "all the mods" that science/research belongs elsewhere and also I don't think that is a decision that the mods get to make. We, the community who got this site out of "proposal" stage and into beta stage, get to define what topics are acceptable here
Each person has a different opinion and right now it's not clearly defined
@curiousdannii have you considered just sending an email to Tim Post asking him to clear it up?
@AbhiBeckert you're aliasing "best approaches" as best approach as if they're in any way synonymous - they're not
if the solution changes based on individual circumstances, they should be addressed - otherwise, the question is too broad and unspecific, case closed sealed wrapped and unappealed.
Today, we had a visit from Tim Post to discuss our potential name change. After a meeting at Stack Exchange and some discussion in a chatroom, we've nearly settled on our site name:
Free & Open... something.
Free & Open was the highest voted suggestion on the site name brainstorming post, and b...
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