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CowperKettle

02:10

> Resistance Exercise Training Significantly Curtails Depressive Symptoms medscape.com/viewarticle/907875

If you self-study, even without a credit you get knowledge

Jasper

03:21

@CaptainBohemian Unfortunately, 9 out of 10 research papers is rubbish.

SmokeDetector

05:33

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in link text in body, pattern-matching website in body, potentially bad keyword in body (164): In which war generation we are living? by Jason Smith on ell.SE

CowperKettle

06:57

Word of the day: epidermodysplasia verruciformis

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

07:37

@CowperKettle That's gotta be at least 3 words

Scratch that, four.

Thankfully my epiderm is mostly normalia despite prednisolone's side effects

CowperKettle

08:04

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ No striae? Good

Word of the noon: Stolypin's necktie

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@CowperKettle That's such a weird plural

Of course there is striaeaea

Just mostly nothing out of the ordinary

I had some acne initially

There's also prolonged healing in case of a wound or something

Captain Bohemian

08:26

@Jasper if 9 out of 10 papers are rubbish, then qualification acredited by exams are even more rubbish.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Well, the ultimate fate of any used paper is the trash can, so, I guess.

It's about English

08:50

Hi,

Why is "Stop splashing water on me" not so common

Why is it usually : Stop splashing me.

When it can be : I splashed water on my face.

Or even : I splashed my face with cold water

userr2684291

@It'saboutEnglish Ah, I see. I concede I had only skimmed the preview and told you what I assumed fit the context.

It's about English

When both of them are used in case of a particular past,then

Captain Bohemian

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ certificates are even more useless; they are the result of studying textbooks only.

It's about English

No I mean in case of a pool, someone told me that it should only be :Stop splashing me.

But in other contexts either could be used?

Why's this difference?

I mean: It's :

Stop splashing me.

And not : Stop splashing water on me.

But , in case of face ,it can be : Splash your face with water.

And : Splash what're on your face .

I'm confused.

Pls help me out

Anonymous

09:08

Stop splashing me sounds weird. I think stop splashing me with water sounds okay, though, and so does stop splashing water on me.

Anonymous

Maybe people say stop splashing me too. I wouldn’t worry too much. The with water part might be kind of obvious in context.

Anonymous

Do people really think it has to be one particular phrasing? Seems to me there are lots of ways you could say it.

Anonymous

Just sitting here thinking about it, I think all of the versions we’ve talked about here are probably fine.

Anonymous

I don’t see any difference based on context.

CowperKettle

09:39

The one thing I learned about computers in the last 5 years is that it's no use waiting for new technical processes on CPU. Now the speed of advancement has slowed down to a crawl. I won't wait for AMD's 7 nm and just upgrade my stationary PC this spring.

Because it may take till December for 7 nm to crawl to store shelves.

I waited for 1.5 years for Intel to produce something on its 10 nm process, and seems like it's dead in the wafer.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

11:25

@CowperKettle I don't think processors can sleep

Even with Nemo and friends

Jasper

12:04

@CaptainBohemian Yes, it is easy for idiots to get PhDs these days actually.

@CowperKettle I waited 7 years for a book. Today it arrived in the mailbox.

CowperKettle

12:20

@Jasper Wow!

userr2684291

12:47

Oh, I didn't see @It'saboutEnglish was in chat when I replied.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer (94): "He did many mischiefs." vs. "He made much mischief." – How are these different? by user89306 on ell.SE

userr2684291

13:02

@CowperKettle Why do you need a fast CPU anyway? The only time I thought I needed a little faster computer was when I was working with neural networks. (And even with this it's customary to use your GPU, and for relatively simple/small projects a 5–10 minute waiting period isn't that long.)

(The difference between a GPU and CPU is not really important; they're probably built the same way in that regard, it's just that the former is optimized for certain operations.)

Jasper

@userr2684291 By the way, how does the CPU affect the speed of your work? How does using SSD vs HDD affect the speed of your work? Maybe you can give a quick expert answer to these two questions.

CowperKettle

Word of the eve: Frigorific mixture

@userr2684291 I love silent computers, and a newer model would generate less temperature with the same performance.

Jasper

13:17

@CaptainBohemian My math professor long ago said 9 out 0f 10. My physics professor friend actually said 99 out of 100. And I thought I was being extreme.

@CowperKettle Today when my computer was updating the firmware, it made a very loud sound, probably the fan. Now I know what loud fan noise means. If there is constant loud fan noise, it's terrible! Which is what happened to some of the Dell computer reviewers online.

userr2684291

@Jasper I'm not an expert, but I've never encountered any real difficulties in my work with respect to that. Sure, sometimes waiting for 5 seconds for something instead of 1 or 0 can be annoying.

CowperKettle

Yes, I hate that frigorific feeling of waiting extra 4 seconds.

userr2684291

If you have to wait for 5 seconds every 30 seconds, though, then you're either not doing something correctly organization-wise, or you're working on a big project, and maybe it's time to ditch the extra emulation/virtualization layer.

userr2684291

13:46

My roommate is vacuuming again. What's wrong with people?

What I really don't understand is how she manages to fill the entire... receptacle in that thing with dust every three days. When I vacuumed, more than a month ago, lol, I couldn't do that, and I hadn't vacuumed for a month or two.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

How on Earth are your lungs still operational? O.o

userr2684291

I think by frequently vacuuming she creates this negative dust pressure, dus' attracting dust.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Dust settles on everything at crazy rates per minute

I clean the outer surface of this home treadmill every three days, and a white handkerchief turns black every time.

userr2684291

Uhm, if you ignore it, it goes away? Science.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Hmm, VTC, downvote and flag?

Bonus if you flag dust as Rude/Abusive. It casts an additional downvote

CowperKettle

13:53

Every three days? My second table, originally black, is now gray from dust.

I should clean it.. someday.

userr2684291

My table is clean.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Or patent a new material for table manufacturing

A new . . . piece of material? These bloody English nouns

A new type.

userr2684291

I mean. Some parts of the table have never even been reached anyway.

I do keep the window open all the time.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Someone keeps flagging a message in Spanish

@userr2684291 That means more dust would come in, not go out

I guess YMMV though, us Iranians always tend to have these fancy carpets and stuff

We clothe everything, even the ground

userr2684291

I have a tiny carpet but most of the laminate floor here is nude.

The carpet does gather a lot of dust, or whatever these green, wiggling things are.

I don't have much to do this week, so it's better if I put off cleaning until next week.

Captain Bohemian

14:21

@Jasper what I think is how difficult for you to make publications when you have no academic position without funding, not judging others' papers.

CowperKettle

> UC San Francisco researchers have for the first time transformed human stem cells into mature insulin-producing cells, a major breakthrough in the effort to develop a cure for type 1 (T1) diabetes.

Captain Bohemian

I think every paper makes some contribution even though I can't understand it.

CowperKettle

I feel frigorific.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@userr2684291 Aliens

Captain Bohemian

if you just take certificate by exams, you just study what others contribute, not contributing yourself.

actually when I can't understand others' paper, I wish there is someone who can help me disentangle.

userr2684291

14:45

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ The technical term is bryophites.

I vacuumed now, and it wasn't at all pleasant.

Cleaning the vacuum is just... I have no idea how to do this properly.

That's why God invented vacuum cleaner bags, so that we wouldn't have to deal with that.

Now everything smells of dust. How exactly was I in danger with the dust sitting quietly under my bed?

Now I'm gonna get a headache.

Captain Bohemian

i have never read a medical paper.

userr2684291

I've opened both the windows and now I'm cold.

Okay, it's better now.

(:

CowperKettle

15:02

I have a vacuum cleaner without a bag. You just pour water into the container, and all dust gathers there.

In theory.

In practice, it gathers everywhere, so you spend some minutes cleaning the cleaner.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

15:20

@userr2684291 Yeah, aliens

CowperKettle

15:40

It will fall below minus 30 tonight, so I dare not open windows

I do open them to let fresh air in, in truth, but then it takes some time for the room to get warm.

CowperKettle

16:19

> The microbial purity of complete culture medium fails to conform to the requirements of the Specification, with a total count of aerobic microbes, yeast and mold fungi of 41 CFU/mL exceeding the normal limit of 10 CFU/mL.

Should it be "a" or "the"?

e1.ru/news/spool/news_id-65916101.html

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

16:37

@CowperKettle "a" IMO

Captain Bohemian

16:54

sleepy

but don't want to sleep

Captain Bohemian

17:29

CowperKettle

18:05

WOW

@CaptainBohemian Beautiful

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Thank you!

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

19:39

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6664843/amp/…

. . .

Jasper

20:36

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ WTF

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

20:46

So much indirect object questions lately

Or maybe it's just me

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Q: Is grammar important?

when i talked with native speakers my grammar was very bad " Still bad" , I noticed that they didn't make any interest on they grammar, But i still think the grammar is important in some fields like technical writing or some related fields , Do you think the grammar is very important ?

dun wory dood in 20 yrs time txtspk iz teh only english ther iz

userr2684291

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ *u'r

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ I think their lawsuit(?) is justified provided the law says parents ought to ensure their child's happiness and carefreeness.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@userr2684291 dats only teh brit dialect

userr2684291

Wouldn't you forbid, say, extremely poor parents to have kids?

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Phrase of the day: the sugar-sticks of the sweet-stuff women

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Q: What's the meaning of "the sugar-sticks of the sweet-stuff women"?

Good gracious, what a quantity of gold there was! enough to buy all the sugar-sticks of the sweet-stuff women; all the tin soldiers, whips, and rocking-horses in the world, or even the whole town itself There was, indeed, an immense quantity. Now I'm reading a fairy tale titled "The Tinder-B...

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@userr2684291 I'd advise against but I don't think anyone has the authority to forbid

Anyone but the couple.

userr2684291

21:03

Then you're indirectly sentencing that child to that same, if not worse, poverty. Why do you want people to have children they can't provide for?

You already punish not caring for the child; why allow it in the first place?

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

So not forbidding it as I would lack the authority is sentencing the child to a miserable entry?

Kinda a stretch

userr2684291

Well, forbid doesn't really mean "forbid", it means you'll get punished if you do it.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

You can't punish people for using their organs the same way as billions of others do

Regardless of the (culture/religion-specific) nuances of being married and things couples have total authority of

userr2684291

People do a lot of things with their organs, like for example kill other people.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Billions of other people don't kill other people

That's why I suggested 10^9

Plus, poverty tends not to be 100 percent people's fault

userr2684291

21:11

A lot of people smoke.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

If you get philosophical, nothing is ever probably, but you know what I mean. It's a 70/30 thing

userr2684291

A lot of people drink alcohol. Probably billions.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@userr2684291 There's a chance that a child born in poverty will be your next Bill Gates

userr2684291

The only reason why smoking isn't forbidden is because some companies profit from them.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

But the consensus among peer-reviewed articles that are worth their shit is smoking does far more harm than good.

@userr2684291 I guess. Same goes more or less for gun control

userr2684291

21:14

(They profit from people who smoke.)

So you have things that billions of people do, and under normal circumstances would be banned.

And you wouldn't bat an eye. But for some reason, having kids without having the means to raise them isn't that big of a deal.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

You don't know for sure that the harm being done to a poor kid is going to outweigh the good

Responsible parents would either think twice or get their arse smoked raising the kid, and irresponsible parents would do it anyway. But how do you tell responsible parents from irresponsible ones, and how do you know the irresponsible ones won't end up doing it anyway?

userr2684291

Yeah, because there've been so many cases where these poor child geniuses cured cancers.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

There's also the fact that you'd be actively filtering out the genes of a portion of population because they're poor.

userr2684291

Yeah, think of the geeenes.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@userr2684291 I'm not saying there's such a big chance that a child raised in poverty will end up like a Gandhi or something. It's actually obviously logically much lower than a rich kid's. What I'm saying is 1) the chance isn't negligible, and 2) You can't be sure the harm is more than the good.

@userr2684291 How would it be any different than the dystopian futures where rich people get free clones to donate stuff to them?

Inequality is why we resent such concepts.

userr2684291

21:21

1) It's negligible. 2) If you think letting people (kids) die is okay (and less harmful than a couple of future cancer-curing geniuses being born), then I'm pretty sure there's more harm than good.

Pretty sure everyone would profit more if poverty were eliminated.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

In an overpopulated Earth of the 2100s the law you say might actually be passed, but it would be a suboptimal quick-and-dirty solution "until we find a better alternative"

@userr2684291 I doubt disallowing poor people from reproducing would fix poverty

You'd just mop the middle class down to the poor region

userr2684291

I don't think it would, but it definitely might help it.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Unless the rich agree not to earn exponentially more than the average person

userr2684291

In normal countries they don't. There's taxes and stuff in place that prevent this sort of disparity.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@userr2684291 To be relentlessly rational, actually, the few geniuses that would propel humanity forward is worth the death of the unremarkable examples. It's exactly how natural selection shapes species and adapts them to the environment, but that would at best be robo-logic, and we're human

But then again, we'd be back to square one: Would any human have the authority to ban a couple who, arguably by becoming a couple, 'bought' a child ticket from having the child?

userr2684291

21:30

Sure, but you never said those geniuses would survive in the first place. Imagine the odds of a genius being born. Now multiply that with the odds of their surviving in poverty.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Of course your average Kim Jung Un could punish people with two babies etc., but this is a question of morality, not what governments can do

@userr2684291 I actually had someone that ends up useful to the society in mind, as opposed to your genetic superiority thing

And those people aren't too few

Let's find some numbers and make them numbo-wrestle

Numero-wrestle?

Dangit, 1 a.m. again. I was supposed to sleep early

userr2684291

Good night.

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