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06:22
@userr2684291 I have a shorter version: ionize
07:18
> Thus, in this study, samples of native and deglycosylated protein were reduced, alkylated, and hydrolyzed simultaneously.
Will the reader understand me correctly, i.e. that the three steps were not carried out at the same time, but sequentially, and that "simultaneously" refers merely to the fact that the native and the deglycosylated samples underwent these procedures in parallel to each other?
 
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09:09
@CowperKettle I have an even shorter version: lion
LOL.
You win :-)
09:58
> 1. We have submitted a marketing authorization dossier for DRUG NAME.
> 2. We have submitted a marketing authorization dossier on DRUG NAME.
Which preposition?
@CowperKettle That sentence itself is ambiguous. I suggest you rewrite it.
@CowperKettle Without checking anything, I would go for 'for'.
@CowperKettle You can write: Thus, in this study, native protein samples were reduced, alkylated, and hydrolyzed, and this was done for deglycosylated protein samples simultaneously.
10:16
Thank you, Jasper!
10:54
Hello @userr2684291 you come to this chat often, it seems.
Maybe for another week.
Oh, I guess you will be busy after that.
ell.stackexchange.com/a/141314/3395 "If the sentence reads 'A committee comprising eminent members...,' then that means the committee makes up the members." Given the usual meaning of comprise, which is "consist of", why does it switch its meaning in comprising?
Yeah, the academic year will begin again. I'll still come but I'll be less active.
I don't get it.
A committee comprising eminent members = A committee consisting of eminent members
So where is the problem?
The members make up the committee.
What I quoted is the answerer's interpretation.
10:58
Yeah, but I don't see any switch in meaning.
Yeah, me neither.
So the answer is wrong, lol.
Okay, I wasn't sure, especially because the answerer wasn't even aware of the second (opposite) meaning of comprise.
People do say 'A comprising B' and 'A comprised of B'.
But whichever way you say it, it is B that makes up A.
Oh, um, I misread their explanation. Apparently the newer interpretation is the one they find more salient.
So they were basically only aware of the Members comprise the group interpretation for some reason.
11:07
Oh OK, as long as it settles the matter for you. I can't think too clearly these days, lol.
@Jasper Yes, I know, and some people disparage comprised of.
@userr2684291 Yes, but I think it is in very common use.
It is, so some people will just have to deal with it.
Haha.
Some disparage the use of hopefully in the sentence: Hopefully it won't rain.
11:10
Hopefully originally meant full of hope, not hoping that something would happen.
But today, the disparaged meaning is the one in common use.
Language changes as people using it change.
So stick to the rules 90 per cent of the time, and break them the other 10 per cent, LOL.
That's why I say again that the more questions I see on English, the more I think I don't know English anymore, LOL. Maybe I need to go back to grade 1, LOL.
I don't think people change, people just don't care or don't know.
It's always been like that. But thankfully there's always been this natural balance which evens things out.
I think snailplane talked about that when CowperKettle asked about hypothetical languages which become more and more complex.
The same is true of languages which're becoming simpler: there's just no such thing, and no matter how much people misuse words or deviate from the rules, (the people speaking their) language will find a way to express the same meaning as before.
Anyway, happy Taco Tuesday, everyone!
I've never even had tacos, and probably never will. I'm very conservative about my meals, sticking to what's gud and tested.
11:44
@userr2684291 I just had dinner. I never had tacos either, lol.
@Jasper What do you mean by dinner, like a large meal eaten in the middle of the day or supper?
@userr2684291 Supper, lol.
Alright.
I mean, I didn't wanna sound intrusive, I was just wondering how people usually use it.
It's alright. You can ask me anything you want.
Hehe, okay. I'm going off now, though. I'll see you guys later!
 
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17:59
@userr2684291 Wait, isn't it Thursday and not Tuesday? LOL.
@userr2684291 I keep my location in SE chat a secret, for secret reasons, LOL. But if you want you can email me and I will disclose more things. Email in my profile. =D
18:15
@Jasper Yeah, haha, shoot. My friend (from America) told me that and I didn't even double check, lol.
I generally don't know/care because I'm on summer break.
Happy Post-Hump Day, then, folks! (:
@snailplane I just saw the musical notes in your profile, LOL.
 
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20:17
Hey @ColleenV I saw you rejected an edit of mine. Not a problem, but if you are free, I would like to discuss the grammaticality of the edit, thanks.
Oh I see, I should have used 'is' and not 'was', but the rest of it is fine to me actually.
Like we should say 'He asked her how things went yesterday' instead of 'He asked her how did things go yesterday'.
20:32
@Jasper also, you changed the order of "was" and "he" in one part, I noticed the "is" when I corrected the spelling error.
I'm on my phone, I'll see if I can find more detail when I get on a proper browser
Sure not a problem!
The is/was is my mistake, but I deliberately changed the order.
And the reason is because of the example sentences I gave above. =D
how old was he at that moment? Not how old he was...
There are two inversions I made actually.
But maybe it could go either way
I would say 'How old is John?' but 'He asked her how old John is'.
And also I would say 'Is it unclear?' but 'He asked her whether it is unclear'.
20:37
I wonder, how old was he? Tell me how old he was.
Actually I misread the sentence
The was inversion was OK, but the sentence as a whole was awkward and I didn't fix it.
The final sentence in that question in its current form looks weird to me too.
Or not. Now I've confused myself
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Q: "12-year-old boy changes his mind just two years later" — how old was he at that moment?

enkryptorI've encountered an article from The Independent: 12-year-old boy who transitioned to female changes his mind just two years later Isn't it ambiguous, how old was he at that moment? Was he 12 when he transitioned to female or when he changed his mind? The article itself clarifies this, but...

Let me just paste it here for reference.
In general, if the question is understandable, I only correct spelling
Ah OK. Anyway, never mind, it's a small thing. When I do edits, I try to fix everything, lol, and sometimes I introduce new errors.
20:41
And leave awkward wording, or small problems in questions. Answers need to be more correct
Anyway, why do people even use internet on the phone? LOL. It's dangerous, LOL.
@Jasper I was rushing. I think that sentence could go either way with different punctuation
I have never used the internet on my phone, LOL. But who knows, maybe I will some day.
Even old folks do that now, not just kids, LOL.
21:31
The Merriam-Webster.com Dictionary contains the following definition of integrity: 1 firm adherence to a code of especially moral or artistic values. What would be an example of an artistic value the definition mentions?
Could we say something like 'We cannot doubt the integrity of this painting'? I don't know if that fits what is listed.
@Jasper I think it's more about the painter and not the painting.
But maybe, I don't know. I don't know what the heck artistic values are.
@userr2684291 I have never seen the artistic sense used before, and have never used the word myself in my entire life.
Like I said, I use only a very small vocab, lol.
And when I write math, I do it using very few pages, lol.
My undergrad paper was only 28 pages long, lol, while most people had theirs at 100 pages, lol.
21:38
Perhaps I should read articles on art criticism.
It's just that it seems too much an extension of the figurative meaning (of the literal "the quality of being whole").
I never understood why integrity is used that way either. Which is why I asked the question on ELU on my first account...
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Q: Why "integrity" means "honesty"

user2683The word integrity meaning wholeness seems to come from the word integer which, roughly speaking, refers to whole numbers. Why does integrity also mean honesty?

@userr2684291 It is a strange coincidence that we both had doubts about 'just deserts' and 'integrity', LOL.
Yeah, haha.
Which is why now I am wondering: Are you me from another universe?
By the way, are you left-handed? I ask because maybe you type your smilie that way because you are so.
21:45
@Jasper Haha, no.
OK, I am left-handed, lol, but I still use :)
I type it that way because I find it cute, and because I don't want my emoticons to render into some emoji automatically, etc.
Haha.
Ah I see. You must be talking about Google Hangouts, LOL.
I use that to talk to some people, and I like the automatic conversion to emoji, LOL.
Well, I might be, but I've been using (: and ): for a while now so I don't know whether that actually happens there.
I think you can turn the conversion off in Google Hangouts if you want. But I leave it on.
21:53
I have a couple of exceptions, though; namely, :> and :<. But if I notice they render into something I'll delete it and not express that emotion, haha.
I don't like the white background on Google Hangouts, and I can't be bothered to fiddle with the settings (which there didn't appear to be many of, IIRC).
Actually, I only use Hangouts to talk to one person regularly, so far.
Other people are not so free to talk to me that often. =D
I haven't used it recently. I only used it once because the person was around my age, and sending short emails back and forth was getting old.
Also, I think the received or seen or whatever indicator it uses once the recipient has read the message, just like on Facebook, I think, is a major invasion of privacy in some way (I can't pin down in what way it bothers me but it does).
Oh? I have never used that indicator myself.
Well, I don't know if you can opt out of that system.
I never had a FB account, waste of time, lol.
Besides, I don't really have any friends to add, lol.
22:07
I don't think it is if you use it correctly, which means not posting/sharing any statuses, not liking others (or your own?) pictures, but posting stuff your group of friends (usually classmates) needs in one private group, as some sort of repository, in addition to chatting privately with your friends.
They're called status updates actually; I forgot.
I just email the few friends I have. Most of my friends have abandoned me long ago, lol.
Also, disabling anything anyone posts outside that/those groups from showing in your feed.
I really think your written English is superb. You use the right punctuation and formatting even in this chat, lol, unlike me.
I don't think it's good enough, but thank you. (:
Trust me, it is excellent, better than most native speakers I have seen.
I have no idea why I get so many upvotes on one simple answer, lol. I guess that's SE for you.
22:14
Indeed.
There's a bit too much drama in the other SE chats I visit, so I think for now I will just come to this room and not go to the others, lol.
I also really like it on the ELL main site so far, so maybe I will keep this account for a long time, lol.
Yeah, there isn't any drama in this neck of the woods.
Nothing serious at least – especially on the main site.
I got a bit too involved in some unpleasant bits of drama in the past, which is why now I want out of it.
And my offline life is already a big drama in itself, lol.
Hmm, Damkerng hasn't logged in for months. I used to talk to him quite a lot here.
And I see that Josh, the highest rep user on ELU, is called 'Absolute Beginner' on ELL, lol.
Interesting.
@snailplane Would you mind taking a look at this? chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/39830816#39830816 I wonder if both choices are correct, depending on how you read the sentence; i.e., what's ellipted.
@Jasper I'm gonna go now. See you later. (:
22:31
@userr2684291 OK, you can always email me too. =)
2 days ago, by CowperKettle
> The arrows indicate the signals produced by the singly-charged and the doubly-charged ion.
Hmm, I guess we need to read that conversation to know the context.
 
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23:42
I fixed 5 different spellings in 1 edit, lol.

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