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Man_From_India

02:05

@DamkerngT. I don't think grammatically Apple's is not wrong there.

> an old people's home.

the sentence above is correct.

> the most strongly built animals' cage.

this is also correct.

So OP's sentence is not wrong grammatically.

> The iPhone has been the most successfully sold Apple's product.

But we don't use Apple's there. The issue is again the hot debate of genitive vs attributive noun - Apple product vs Apple's product.

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A: Possessive and language cases

A Noun Phrase (NP) can have a plain case or a genitive case. Man [PLAIN CASE] Man's [GENITIVE CASE] Though genitive case generally means possession, but it doesn't in all cases. Consider the followings - Henry's father. Henry's car. In both cases the determiner position of the NP is f...

> their newly completed children 's museum.

Damkerng T.

07:35

@Man_From_India I think children's museum is like children's book (i.e., it's one of those words that, even though when they're in the form a(n) X's Y, we take them as a(n) [ X's of Y ] rather than [ a(n) X ]'s of Y).

But these words are special cases. I don't think we can really do that with Apple's (i.e., we wouldn't use an Apple's product for [ an [ Apple's product ] ].

Ah!

*we take them as a(n) [ X's of Y ] rather than [ a(n) X ]'s of Y).

V.V.

Apple is a name.

Hi Dam.

Anonymous

In a children's museum, the genitive NP children's has attributive function. But this function is limited to only certain genitive NPs, most commonly representing generic classes of people.

Anonymous

More commonly, genitive NPs have determiner function.

Damkerng T.

@V.V. Privet!

Anonymous

It's not a matter of genitive vs attributive, but of determiner vs attributive, @Man_From_India.

Damkerng T.

07:45

Good evening, @snailplane!

Anonymous

Good morning :-)

Man_From_India

@snailplane i tried to analyze a sentence in my answer with tree diagram. It's very strange!

V.V.

@snailplane you can't say "the most interesting children 's book",right? Morning.

Damkerng T.

PEU 386.6, .7, .8

Also 439.3

V.V.

08:14

Very illogical about parts of the body, live, dead.

Thanks, Dam.

Damkerng T.

My pleasure!

CowperKettle

08:51

Good afternoon all, good past-midnight, Snails!

> The obtained test solutions and reference solutions were diluted with the ADCC assay medium in order to plot calibration curves, in accordance with the following scheme: (do we need the there?)

ADCC stands for antibody-dependent cell-mediated cytotoxicity

Damkerng T.

I think you need either a or the there.

CowperKettle

Thank you! I noticed that when it is simply "assay medium", it has no article in publications (by native speakers)

Damkerng T.

Interesting!

CowperKettle

Yes..

> Cells were allowed to bind I-ANP at 4°C for 60 min, then washed with assay medium and re-incubated in fresh assay medium at 37°C.

LUDWIG

Damkerng T.

The authors: Indra Mani,* Renu Garg,* Satyabha Tripathi,* and Kailash N. Pandey*,1

CowperKettle

08:59

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Maybe I'm wrong then.

I'll use the

Damkerng T.

nods

But maybe it's not the most important thing in this kind of technical paper. Lots of these papers are written by non-native speakers anyway.

CowperKettle

nods

I like to polish my grammar when I have time

My sister wants to start learning Hungarian

I've lost count of the languages she has been starting learning over her life

But Hungarian must be tough

There's a joke in Russian that if you hear someone speaking a language in which you cannot recognize a single word, that must be Hungarian

Damkerng T.

LOL

@CowperKettle She's a natural polyglot!

CowperKettle

To get paid by a translation agency, I should first receive their payment Act, then print it out, put my signature, then scan it and send it back. This is so odd. One can just photoshop any signature there.

10 minutes wasted, and a sheet of paper

Damkerng T.

nods -- The process must be traditional.

CowperKettle

09:14

Yes, it must date back to the late 16th century, the years of Ivan the Terrible

Damkerng T.

LOL

CowperKettle

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The agency's logo says: "Let's save trees! Do you really need to print this?"

This is real Monthy Python

Damkerng T.

:D

CowperKettle

I mean, they use this logo in their correspondence, showing their support for nature.

Damkerng T.

@CowperKettle Let's save trees (except when you want to get paid). The logo says the parenthetical part in a very, very fine print.

:P

CowperKettle

09:28

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I can write several dozen signatures on a sheet, scan it, and photoshop them in randomly in my next letters. Thus I'll save some trees.

BBL

Damkerng T.

@CowperKettle Good idea!

See you!

Damkerng T.

10:17

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Q: How is antonym pronounced?

Is it pronounced as 'an + to + nym' or 'auto + nym'? Is there any difference between how it is pronounced in different regions?

pronunciation

I wonder what makes him think it's pronounced differently in different regions (dialects?.

Rubisco

I wonder what makes a lot of people on ELL ask what a lot of people on ELL ask these days.

Damkerng T.

:)

Rubisco

I mean, I feel the XY problem is much more widespread on ELL these days.

Damkerng T.

The XY problem?

Rubisco

To the extent that answerers tend not to give the answer, but throw random pieces of knowledge in hopes of being accepted by Lord Askerer.

Damkerng T.

10:20

Ahh

Rubisco

944

Q: What is the XY problem?

What is the XY problem? When asking questions, how do I recognize when I'm falling into it? How do I avoid it? Return to FAQ index

discussion faq asking-questions terminology

Damkerng T.

Thanks for mentioning the XY problem!

Rubisco

Thanks for being mentioned the XY problem!

CowperKettle

10:34

> Into 50 ml tubes we introduced 15 ml of Ficoll and layered 30 ml of the diluted blood over it. (Will it be understood as 15 ml per tube, then 30 ml per tube?)

Damkerng T.

@CowperKettle I think it's a bit ambiguous. (The fronting is a bit unusual in technical writing, too, I think.)

CowperKettle

my first version is:

> We introduced 15 ml of Ficoll to 50 ml tubes and layered 30 ml of the diluted blood over the Ficoll.

But I wanted to aviod the repetition of Ficoll

Deo

Hello!

Wha... "diluted blood"? What is this text about?

CowperKettle

Good afternoon, Deo!

Deo

I'm starting to think CowperKettle is working on something sinister

very sinister

CowperKettle

10:48

The text is about the obtainment of peripheral blood mononuclear cells

Peripheral blood mononuclear cell

A peripheral blood mononuclear cell (PBMC) is any peripheral blood cell having a round nucleus. These cells consist of lymphocytes (T cells, B cells, NK cells) and monocytes, whereas erythrocytes and platelets have no nuclei, and granulocytes (neutrophils, basophils, and eosinophils) have multi-lobed nuclei. These cells can be extracted from whole blood using ficoll, a hydrophilic polysaccharide that separates layers of blood, and gradient centrifugation, which will separate the blood into a top layer of plasma, followed by a layer of PBMCs and a bottom fraction of polymorphonuclear cells (such...

Nothing sinister

Deo

It's almost like you had that answer prepared...

CowperKettle

11:01

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Q: Does Goryaev's chamber have the same grid layout as the conventional counting chamber used in the West?

I'm translating a Russian biotec text where some cell counting operations are mentioned. The piece of equipment the authors mention in this context is "Goryaev's chamber": We discarded the supernatant, washed the cells with DPBS twice (suspended and centrifuged them for 10 min at 200 g), then...

hematology terminology

Too lazy to find that out myself. (0:

Damkerng T.

:D

CowperKettle

Bio SE even has the Translation tag

But it refers to a step in DNA processing

Lawrence

11:29

Huh! The system records that I've been on this site for exactly a year. That means I joined Learners before I joined ELU! Fancy that.

Damkerng T.

@Lawrence Maybe it rounded up the number of days?

Lawrence

@DamkerngT. Nope, I got a yearling badge.

Damkerng T.

Ahh... I see!

BTW, congrats!

Lawrence

:)

Thanks.

CowperKettle

I still haven't received my t-shirt

Damkerng T.

11:31

Me either.

Lawrence

Nor me.

:P

But that's ok. I have other clothes to wear.

Damkerng T.

LOL

Damkerng T.

11:49

@AshkanSirous do you see how I related to the question but I didn't talk about me? Your culture, means your country. — Mari-Lou A 2 days ago

Hmm... really?

unarist

@DamkerngT. Yay, I got a response about "contracted by" from contact!

Damkerng T.

@unarist Oh, hooray!

What's the meaning?

unarist

He directed how to sing at recording. In other words, he contracted for vocal recording.

Damkerng T.

@unarist Hmm... I think I've come across that, but it's a rather technical term, I think.

I don't know if it applies to recording. I've only heard in it in the context of orchestra. But they sound like they know.

> Often in soundtracks, the individual members of the orchestra that performs the actual score are not credited (with some exceptions being the "orchestra leader" or concertmaster). Usually, only the "orchestra contractor" is credited.

> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_Studio_Symphony

unarist

At least, I saw this usage first time. So I think it is not usual usage in CD booklets in Japan too.

Damkerng T.

12:01

nods

unarist

orchestra contractor...this sentence sounds like orchestra conductor :)

btw, if he directed how to sing at recording it seems to be able to say something like "Vocal directed by"...

Damkerng T.

@unarist nods

@unarist IIUC, they're not the same person, though sometimes they are.

Your understanding is correct but than is generally used for comparison. Then is more correct in the second sentence. — Sadiq 40 mins ago

Let out a sigh quietly. I'm too tired.

unarist

12:21

I started a car driving class this week. It's interesting but...driving is hard.

Damkerng T.

Some new cars make things much easier.

unarist

maybe I'm tired.

Damkerng T.

@unarist :)

Maybe we don't have to drive anything in a decade or two.

unarist

@DamkerngT. My parents have MT cars (in English, stick shift?) license, but my class is automatic cars license only. It should be little easier than that.

Damkerng T.

@unarist nods -- Probably the hardest thing will be parallel parking.

unarist

12:29

If I live in urban area like Tokyo, cars are not important because there are many bus and trains.

My home town is not so :(

Damkerng T.

I understand that trains are almost everywhere over there.

And maybe bikes. :-)

unarist

Driving a bike seems to be as hard as cars, and it doesn't have solid frames which guards driver...it is scary than cars.

Well, I thought bike is motorbike in last sentence.

Damkerng T.

@unarist I used it to cover both bicycles and motorcycles.

unarist

@DamkerngT. The term 二輪車 would cover both in Japanese, but we usually distinguish those.

Damkerng T.

12:48

@unarist I see.

Man_From_India

I finally modified my answer there in Apple's question. I edited it a number of times since I posted it, and interestingly every time I said different things :-) This time this is the last edit I think :-) thanks to @snailplane and @DamkerngT. for pointing out the errors.

Damkerng T.

@Man_From_India Yay! (And you're welcome!)

Man_From_India

:-)

So LawrenceC is 38 years' old? :-)

considering he hasn't resided anywhere outside USA.

Damkerng T.

13:03

To be honest, I haven't checked out his profile. :-)

Man_From_India

Me neither. But the bounty question revealed it .

Damkerng T.

Oh!

Man_From_India

Bounty note As a native AmE speaker of 38 years I know it doesn't work but cannot explain why.

Damkerng T.

I see! Thanks!

Man_From_India

hehe

Damkerng T.

13:05

Somehow I hadn't read that. :-)

CowperKettle

> We put 300 µL of solution into wells E – G of row 7, as well as into well A of rows 1 – 12. (Is it okay to say well in the second occurrence? There were 12 wells in total)

Damkerng T.

Sounds good to me. Like Room 103 or Set A.

CowperKettle

Shouldn't it be plural "wells"?

If we filled the solution into 12 wells designated "A" - in rows 1, 2, ... 12?

Damkerng T.

Hmm... that's a good question.

Man_From_India

I think it's Well A like as DT said Room 103, so no plural I guess.

CowperKettle

13:09

Ah, this way. Dhanyavaad!

Man_From_India

:-)

Damkerng T.

Is this a possible alternative: Well As?

CowperKettle

Well as?

Damkerng T.

I suppose that it could be more confusing if we used the plural form.

CowperKettle

nods

Damkerng T.

13:15

@CowperKettle I thought wells A might work better than well As but somehow it looked weird.

Ah, a real example! (It's rare, but it's there!)

> The enrolment at the beginning of the year was for all four college classes 101, of whom 74 were sent from American Board schools.

CowperKettle

@DamkerngT. Wow! Nice.

user62015

13:59

Hi @CowperKettle @DamkerngT. 2. Few people were present ,————— ?
(A) weren’t they (B) were they (C) wasn’t they (D) was they

Damkerng T.

You've asked that once already. :D

CowperKettle

Didn't you?

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Anonymous

@V.V. Sure you can, 'cause children's there is an attributive modifier.

CowperKettle

"were they" can be used as a request of confirmation

Anonymous

@CowperKettle In my dialect, there would never be a question tag there. I'd always rephrase it: There weren't many people there, were there?

CowperKettle

14:12

@snailplane Oh, thank you! It was a drive-by remark.. I'm translating. O_O

\o

BBL

Rubisco

@Rubisco I wasn't very clear - I think the help center text could use a lot of improvement. We don't talk about it though unless someone posts a discussion like this one pointing out a particular flaw. — ColleenV ♦ 1 min ago

@Colleen Shrug I'm just being dramatic.

ColleenV

@Rubisco :) I do share your frustration.

I am a fan of clear documentation because I have no patience and get annoyed having to say the same thing over and over

user62015

@DamkerngT. @CowperKettle Yes, I did and I understood now, thanks.

Damkerng T.

14:36

@ColleenV FWIW, I don't think it's really an etymology question (that sticking place one). But I know that my opinion would be in the minority, as I think it's a trivial dictionary question.

> merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sticking%20place

> Definition of sticking place
1 : the place where something stops and sticks fast <screw your courage to the sticking place — Shakespeare>
2 : the place or point in the neck of an animal where the knife is stuck in

"What did William Shakespeare mean by sticking place?" -- We can only speculate that. One given by the dictionary above is good enough.

"What, or where was this sticking place in Shakespeare's time?" -- Same as the above.

But nobody mentioned that it's a dictionary question, so I'm sure that I'm probably an odd man.

ColleenV

@DamkerngT. I agree with you, but because I have a diamond by my name now I bite my tongue a lot. It certainly is a nicely formatted and well-written question

Damkerng T.

nods -- I agree, and it's perhaps an important factor.

ColleenV

I just don't think it's all that interesting myself.

but when I say that as a moderator, it means more than when I was just another community member. It's hard for someone like me who just loves to tell people what I think lol

whether they ask or not!

Damkerng T.

Hehe! I know that kind of feeling!

Rubisco

Thank God I didn't become a mod then

I . . . don't really mind what comes off my mouth

Damkerng T.

14:45

@Rubisco By saying that, you remind me of Charles Barkley, and ex-member of the Chicago Bull.

Rubisco

Yay, I always wanted to be remembered as Charles.

Damkerng T.

Most people would enjoy Jordan making scores again and again. I somehow enjoyed Barkley and Rodman doing the dirty work in the background as well. :P

ColleenV

I never really understood basketball. Too many points scored. Soccer has the opposite problem. Hockey is a nice middle ground :)

Rubisco

Hockey and basketball seem to have the pace that's needed.

Soccer is only pretending to have it.

I can never help but yawn in a soccer match. Even a football match.

ColleenV

Besides hockey players have weapons!

Rubisco

14:51

And cool hockey masks.

ColleenV

so do lacrosse players, but hard to find games in the US unless you're close to a university

Damkerng T.

I don't even know how it plays! :-)

Rubisco

I don't even know if you eat it with ice cream or just on its own.

ColleenV

I had a friend who played and he was telling me all the ways to foul people without getting caught. It's a pretty vicious game

Lacrosse

Lacrosse is a contact team sport played between two teams using a small rubber ball (62.8–64.77 mm (2.472–2.550 in), 140–147 g (4.9–5.2 oz)) and a long-handled stick called a crosse or lacrosse stick. It is often considered as a rough sport, with slashes and intense checks to the stick and body. The head of the lacrosse stick is strung with loose mesh designed to catch and hold the lacrosse ball. There are many different ways to put mesh on the head of the stick, also known as "stringing the stick." Offensively, the objective of the game is to score by shooting the ball into an opponent's goal...

Rubisco

Oh.

Sounds like a bull fight.

Except with humans.

Humans with sticks

ColleenV

14:53

and weapons!

Rubisco

And RPGs

ColleenV

although bull's horns are probably more dangerous

Rubisco

If you blow up the referee, they won't be able to catch you when you foul

Damkerng T.

Judging from the photo on Wikipedia page, it looks like a serious version of butterfly catching. (Just kidding! :P)

ColleenV

It's not very sportsman-like though

Yeah, you can tease them about being badminton players that didn't keep their racquets strung properly. They hate that.

Rubisco

14:56

@DamkerngT. This is why you'd be a good mod. Making a joke that's hardly even less than white, but writing a 'no kidding' in the end. I'd say something brutal the crowd would keep watching me for the next hour in amazement

Damkerng T.

LOL

I'm happy the way it is, though.

Rubisco

Hello happy the way it is, though. Welcome to LO

I'm gonna make that joke until I get tired of it

Lawrence

Perhaps this will help speed things up.

Damkerng T.

@Rubisco Thanks, gonna make that joke until I get tired of it!

Lawrence

Hello gonna make that joke until I get tired of it. Welcome to LO.

Damkerng T.

14:59

LOL

Rubisco

@Lawrence Let me think. No

Lawrence

@Rubisco I was sure that would work. :P

Rubisco

I have a high threshold

Like a boss

Lawrence

... Double-barrel, too.

Rubisco

Like the final boss of the game

Whose unmatched omnipotence shocks you for the next century

user62015

15:30

@V.V. Hi

(A) When he saw me / (B) he / (C) wished me. (D) no error Could you solve the question please? @DamkerngT. @CowperKettle @V.V.

Rubisco

15:45

@user62015 C.

I can't wish you even if I wanted.

Unless you mean wash.

user62015

@Rubisco Could you please explain?

Rubisco

Sure. "wish" requires a direct object. The thing that you wish is your direct object.

I don't see it in that sentence.

This sentence is grammatical:

> I wished him a bright and happy new year.

You can rewrite it as

> I wished a bright and happy new year for him.

In your sentence, the direct object is missing. You need a phrase like "a bright and happy new year" to make your sentence complete and grammatical.

Sentences . . . more accurately, the verbs in sentences require some extra things to work @User. A direct object is one of them.

I wonder if you're nodding, you've left, or you have some problem with my explanation and you're not telling me.

user62015

I agree @Rubisco

Please wait @Rubisco I am checking

@Rubisco Thanks, it made sense.

Rubisco

16:02

Thank God

Damkerng T.

@Rubisco Well explained!

Rubisco

@DamkerngT. BTW, I wanna answer something on ELL today. But I gotta check the main page after thirty minutes. Got anything I could answer?

Damkerng T.

This one still has no good answer: ell.stackexchange.com/q/105149/3281

CowperKettle

16:25

Башкирская бригада едет на работу.

►

> Bashkir working crew arrives at work

Rubisco

@DamkerngT. But that's based on a typo. :/ I guess I shouldn't complain and just answer, like everybody else

Brings me to my next question, is then always an adv? @Dam

Damkerng T.

@Rubisco It usually is, I think.

Rubisco

@DamkerngT. All three gaps require a preposition, don't they? Problem solved

CowperKettle

> We used normal human serum complement as our source of complement.

(0:

> Human serum complement standard is a uniform pool of human serum complement.

Thanks, Cap

I think that immunology is physiology's hell. It's so complex.

Rubisco

Well, you're not wrong

CowperKettle

16:42

> I want to complement my compliment that compliments your complement, lady, and add that you blood assay readings are perfect.

Rubisco

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A: Is the use of "then" wrong in "it has been around for much more then ten years"?

In all three cases, it's either a typo, or someone is very wrong in their use of than. We don't have to get to the meanings to find out the mistake. than is a preposition and sometimes a conjunction. then is almost always an adverb. All your empty slots, should we have been filling them with eit...

@Dam how does it look like?

Too embarrassing? Too much lacking figures?

Damkerng T.

@Rubisco Good info, and not too long. Good answer!

Rubisco

@DamkerngT. Thanks

Damkerng T.

:)

CowperKettle

16:57

ludwig.guru/s/viable%20proliferating%20cells

In Russian it is "live proliverating cells", in English "viable proliferating cells".

But "viable" seems odd to me.

We want to assess how many cells are at this moment alive and proliferating

"Viable" only indicates that they "have the capacity for staying alive"

But Ludwig suggests "viable" is the word.

Rubisco

I think 'viable' means it can exist and it can reproduce.

It's technical.

CowperKettle

nods

oops, Google only finds 67 results for "viable proliferating cells"

Maybe it's not the best phrase

> We assessed the number of viable proliferating cells using Alamar Blue, a vital dye. (another pun)

Rubisco

@CowperKettle Don't proliferate man.

Proliferation isn't what they expect from cells.

CowperKettle

@Rubisco Why?

Rubisco

They only expect being alive and being able to produce.

So 'viable cell' is a complete phrase in and of itself

CowperKettle

17:09

I'll ask on a translator's (translators'?) site

Rubisco

Translator site

Unless you don't mean Google

CowperKettle

As I understand, Alamar Blue will stain just any cell that is metabolically active, so probably "viable" is the best choice.

At translator sites, some responds are outlandish.

A common marker of an outlandish response is "I've been working in this field for 20 years"

Rubisco

Some cells don't proliferate that much.

CowperKettle

Or "I used to do this operation when I was a biotechnologist"

Rubisco

Just really, there's only two factors to consider.

CowperKettle

17:15

@Rubisco You must have studied the cell cycle recently.

It's in the biological textbooks, at least in Russia

Rubisco

@CowperKettle Depending on what recently means.

Common man, I live in a cell myself

CowperKettle

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Man_From_India

> the searchlight reeled in its beam, then went out.

This use of reel is probably figurative. But what does that bold expression mean?

CowperKettle

Is this the whole sentence?

Man_From_India

Yes

Let me give the context.

CowperKettle

17:25

To "reel" is to kind of wobble

But how can something "reel" in its own beam is beyond me

Man_From_India

The air raid plane was doing their round at night. It was a moonless night, completely black. A man came out and used the searchlight to spot the plane and on seeing it, shoot his gun. (then comes this sentence).

CowperKettle

"plane"?

Man_From_India

There seems to be only one result in Google search, that lead back to the book I'm reading.

Sorry, plane.

CowperKettle

This may be a quaint turn of phrase to show that basically the searchlinght's beam became unsteady (did some "drunken" motion) and then turned off

Man_From_India

At first I thought it means flickered.

CowperKettle

17:28

Or rotating motion.

I remember a beautiful sentence in DH Lawrence where flowers are "reeling" in light breeze.

I can't find it now.

Man_From_India

Then it occurred to me it might not be. The jolt he got from shooting might have made his hand move with which he was holding the light.

Rubisco

@CowperKettle Like a helicopter?

CowperKettle

> a : to turn or move round and round
b : to be in a whirl
2
: to behave in a violent disorderly manner
3
: to waver or fall back (as from a blow)
4
: to walk or move unsteadily

merriam-webster.com/dictionary/reel

@Man_From_India Maybe it is as if the searchlight "took the beam in" like a fisherman who "reels in" the lenght of his fishing lane.

The fisherman rotates the little drum and "reels in" the lane.

It may be poetic language.

The light might have gradually lessened, reminding the narrator of a rope or lane or whatever being "reeled in".

> Now, reel in the line until you can pick up the fish with your hand. (It's line! (0:)

So you kind of "reel in" your beam back inside the searchlight's compartment

CowperKettle

18:04

Good night, ladies and gentlemen!

Shubh ratri, Man ji

Rubisco

19:06

Oh my God. Only two answers and I earned more than 100 rep.

Damkerng T.

;-)

Damkerng T.

20:56

Three years ago:

Would you sign up to die on MARS? 200,000 people apply for one-way ticket to red planet | Daily Mail Online

Three days ago:

Elon Musk Mars mission will send people to die on Red Planet on hope of colonising it | The Independent

Also three days ago:

Elon Musk Wants To Fire Donald Trump Into Space

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Q: I found her having been waiting for her husband for three hours. / I found him having been killed home

Please tell me, why can´t I say/write sentences like this: I found her having been waiting for her husband for three hours. I found him having been killed home.

grammar

What? We can't say I found him having been killed? (Okay, having been killed home is weird.)

Even though I agree it's not a very likely thing people say, I don't think it's ungrammatical or forbidden.

> I fell in, indeed, with one of these; but he was badly hurt, apparently dying, when I found him, having been wounded by a wanton shot fired by my late companions in their retreat.

> Once a Week, Eneas Sweetland Dallas, Bradbury and Evans., 1877

Damkerng T.

23:19

@Andrew, Early Modern English used forms of "be" to form the perfect of some intransitive verbs, especially ones of motion: "I am come; he is arrived; they are grown tall". Modern English has standardised on forms of "have" for all perfects, so those forms are archaic (though familiar from the King James Bible). French and German continue to work like EME. — Colin Fine 37 mins ago

^Worth noting

Anonymous

23:30

@Man_From_India To be honest, I don't really know what that means.

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. Yes, and I'm glad we have Colin Fine here on ELL to tell us :-)

Anonymous

@CowperKettle It seems like that must be it, but I don't really know what that means.

CowperKettle

oh, we can ask on the main site (0:

Anonymous

Someone else might understand.

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