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hi
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@user62015 Hello.
03:05
@DamkerngT. I take the opposite view - if there is a 'real' context in which the sentence is valid and not awkward (euphonic?), then the sentence without context should be allowed to stand. In those teenagers example, both null article and definite article are fine. With the food example, the definite article works. I'm not sure about the null article, but the zero article might work as well.
(See Peter Master's paper that I mentioned in this answer for the distinction between zero and null articles.)
03:23
@Lawrence There?
@CowperKettle Hi
I need your help
31. (A) Today I / (B) shall dine / (C) at my uncle’s house. / D) no error
32. (A) The judge / (B) has issued order / (C) for his arrest. / (D) no error
33. (A) His / (B) wages / (C) is low. / (D) no error
34. (A) There / (B) is / (C) no place in your compartment. / (D) no error
35. (A) He / (B) needs / (C) two pairs of shoes. / (D) no error
36. (A) Two third / (B) of the area / (C) is under water. / (D) no error
37. (A) Distribute / (B) these mangoes / (C) between four friends / (D) no error
38. (A) The two sisters / (B) help / (C) one another. / (D) no error
@user62015 Good morning! I'm lurking because I'm translating a largish text...
Sawasdee khrap all!
There is an error in 32
@Cardinal Armstrong has a lot of great songs
And Ella Fitzgerald has too
They are like a couple in my mind
from the comments to the song (0;
03:44
@user62015 Here.
@user62015 What are your thoughts on these?
@CowperKettle Good point!
 
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05:03
@Lawrence I'm personally not very fond of the zero article. I suppose it's even less so for the null article. I understand that it's useful for some people, though.
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Q: Hello, could you please reopen my question?

Li Xiaodongcould you please reopen my question? The URL of my question is below. Questions about a sentence from "To the lighthouse" by Virginia Woolf Thank you very much for your help.

(BTW, in case I haven't mentioned this yet, I'm a lumper (as opposed to a splitter) :-)
But while we are at articles ...
12 hours ago, by Damkerng T.
> This is first official event in the campaign for the Republican nomination for president. Welcome to Cleveland Ohio. It is debate night.
Isn't this excerpt interesting?
05:21
@DamkerngT. :)
> SGal is the total area of peaks of the glycans G1, G1f, G2, G1fS1, G2f, G2S1, G2fS2 (should there be the, or does it count as "Room 301", that is, maybe no article is needed?)'
@DamkerngT. How would you express the ideas in the paper's examples? E.g. "Mice like cheese." - which explicit article would you add before cheese?
@Lawrence It's an uncountable noun.
Nothing's there (in the place where the zero article is supposed to be if we use a zero article theory).
@DamkerngT. Uncountable nouns can have articles, too. E.g.: "The water is clear".
05:27
Sure, but when there's nothing there, why would we have to try to make up something there?
Generic "cheese" has no article (google for "Generic Noun Phrase" pdf)
@CowperKettle I think I like it better with the, but maybe it's not wrong without it.
@DamkerngT. For the same reason we have the concept of null that is distinct from the concept of zero: it's useful to distinguish between having something but at a zero level, vs not having it at all. By analogy: suppose someone takes a test - before the teacher marks it, they have a null score (there is no score); after the teacher marks it, they may have a score of 0 or 100, or whatever, but it's no longer null.
Isn't it interesting that in database, we usually have an attribute that is either NULL or NOT NULL, but in XML, the most natural way to express an equivalent of NULL is just something that's not there? ;-)
 
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07:45
> The removed the remaining protein from the reaction mixture:
When I'm tired, I write the instead of We at the start of sentences.
And the spellchecker misses it.
 
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08:48
Another common special night is prom night. It's often used without an article. But now I wonder, what would be the way considered to be "correct" by most English teachers (when it's written without an article)? -- prom night, Prom night, or Prom Night?
Sawasdee khrap!
Robocop is right on the next curve!
Sawasdee khrap!
No wonder, I know a robot who serves in the Grammar Police.
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> Operated from a safe distance, these robots can blast through car windows and even kill, raising ethical issues about how they should be used.
The future might be very, very bleak.
08:54
nods
Because oppressive regimes might use this technology too, after the US and other countries have developed it enough.
Uzbekistan or Turkmenistan authorities will not bat an eye at killing people using robots.
@CowperKettle Which makes the future portrayed in the latest remake of Robocop quite a real possibility.
nods
The late Uzbekistan leader's regime boiled people alive..
Yikes!
And the US transferred dozens of militarized vehicles to it.
And when the UK representative in the country reported on the tortures, he was dismissed from his job
With robots, it will get even dirtier.
08:59
@CowperKettle Oh! That's, um, ... complicated? I guess.
Yes, complicated politics.
Craig John Murray (born 17 October 1958) is a former British ambassador to Uzbekistan, and was the Rector of the University of Dundee (2007–10). While Ambassador in Tashkent, he accused the Karimov administration of human rights abuses, which he argued was a step against the wishes of the British government and the reason for his removal. Murray complained to the Foreign and Commonwealth Office in November 2002, January or early February 2003, and in June 2004 that intelligence linking the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan to al-Qaeda was unreliable, immoral and illegal, as it was thought to have...
I was proofreading my sister's research paper, and read about it.
> Murray was summoned to the FCO in London and on 8 March 2003 was reprimanded for writing to his employers, in response to a speech by President of the United States George W. Bush criticising human rights violations by Saddam Hussein, that "when it comes to the Karimov regime, systematic torture and rape appear to be treated as peccadilloes, not to affect the relationship and to be downplayed in the international fora. Double standards? Yes."
I wonder where he is now.
Phrase of the Day: first generation students
(some sources spell it first-generation)
Anonymous
09:32
@DamkerngT. Good question!
@snailplane Thanks! I thought it would look odd to write it in lowercase prom night, but then I found many instances of on prom night!
Hi @DamkerngT.
09:52
> We unfroze the denaturing plate, then..
We unfrosted the denaturing plate, then..
> We thawed the denaturing plate, then..
O_o
> We unfroze the denaturing plate, then centrifuged it for 1 min at 1200 g (2710 rpm) on a centrifuge with a plate rotor.
Maybe "we equilibrated it to room temperature", but that is too long.
Maybe it's "thawed" then.
10:32
@Lawrence GHL
11:04
> We thawed the dye plate and centrifuged simultaneously the dye plate and the PNGase F plate for 1 min at 1200 g (2710 rpm), then transferred 8 µl PNGase F-treated samples into the dye plate.
Would not the reader think that 8 µl was the total amount of samples?
I need to get it across that there were a number of such samples, and each sample had a volume of 8 µl.
11:26
> We added 75 µl of Gel Matrix to wells 2, 3, 7, 8, 9.
Would not the reader think that we divided the 75 microliters between the 5 wells?
In Russian, we have a special preposition to indicate "each":
> We added po 75 µl of Gel Matrix to wells 2, 3, 7, 8, 9.
It looks like this: "po" or по in Russian.
> We added 75 µl of Gel Matrix to wells 2, 3, 7, 8, 9 each (that's clumsy)
11:40
@CowperKettle A preposition? That's interesting! It's interesting to see how different languages work.
@CowperKettle I read it that way.
@DamkerngT. Thank you! I must have overthought it
No problem! :-)
found the User Guide, now I know that it is "dye"
12:05
Word of the Day: tumultuous
Hi! @djna
Welcome to the room!
Ahh... I was greeting an afterimage...
 
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such (meaning "of the kind previously mentioned or implied or described") is a predicate adjective. The sentence in which it appears uses inversion: The extremes of emotion that Mr Ramsay excited in his children...were such. That is, they were so extreme as to be murderous. See the sentence that immediately precedes the sentence in question. — TRomano 34 mins ago
Hmm...
It gets complicated every time we want to analyze exactly what is what.
Personally, I think it's more natural (and easier) to think of this Such as a pronoun.
> It keeps eternal whisperings around
Desolate shores, and with its mighty swell
Gluts twice ten thousand Caverns, till the spell
Of Hecate leaves them their old shadowy sound.
Often 'tis in such gentle temper found,
That scarcely will the very smallest shell
Be moved for days from where it sometime fell.
When last the winds of Heaven were unbound.
Oh, ye! who have your eyeballs vexed and tired,
Feast them upon the wideness of the Sea;
Oh ye! whose ears are dinned with uproar rude,
Or fed too much with cloying melody---
If I were in California, I would travel to the ocean now and then. Ah, and I would surf on a board. (0:
14:18
@DamkerngT. I listened to this song in the winter while jogging
It's odd to jog in the snow in the dark and listen to this song. ():
Only I listened to the Mamas and Papas
A bit like watching a ghost story movie during the day, I guess. :P
@CowperKettle Ah, that's the original, I think.
@DamkerngT. Yes? It's great
They have some great songs.
Indeed. I guess I've listened to this song too many times, though. :)
14:21
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One of my colleagues played this song again and again, every day!
It was either this song or Kitaro's!
Hmm... maybe I misremembered the name...
This is a great song too.
@DamkerngT. Kitaro's?
He's a saxophone player, I think.
Hmm... possibly, but it sounds a bit different.
14:25
> Asif Mojtoba1 month ago
I listen to these while writhing codes; helps me to concentrate.
Oh, yes! I remember his Silk Road.
@CowperKettle Nice!
> In the first half of the year, Russia's chemical industry grew by 5.3% relative to the previous year. This has allowed the country's Ministry of Industry and Trade to state that the industry is faring well compared with the other fields.
Some good news
(translating)
Congrats!
> The statement was made by Alexander Orlov, Deputy Director of the Department for the Chemico-Technological and Forestry Complex at the Ministry of Industry and Trade of the Russian Federation.
This was a mouthful
> According to the ministry's data, in the lead is the sector of chemical plant protection agents (+51.8%), followed by the dyes (+19%), chemical fibers and threads (+17.2%), and paints and coatings (+13.2%) sectors.
14:48
> The list of waste materials designated for mandatory utilization by producers and importers may be expanded with a new section titled "finished product packaging".
Exciting news.
15:06
@V.V. Sorry, I don't recognise that acronym.
@Lawrence It's an LO (Language Overflow) thing. :D
Aug 7 at 9:16, by Cardinal
@JimReynolds God help learners
@DamkerngT. Oh. Thanks. :)
My pressure! -- Oops, I meant pleasure! :P
I suppose when you have to start looking for things that aren't there, it does sound rather tough. Phrased that way, there's probably a psychological term for it. :P
I correced the phrase "by pressure" to "by voltage" today
15:12
@CowperKettle Oh! That sounds crucial!
@DamkerngT. Pressure causing Language Overflow, hmm?
@Lawrence Hehe!
@DamkerngT. :)
@DamkerngT. Not very, the reader would have understood anyway that in Capillary Zone Electrophoresis it's voltage, not pressure
It was in a table.
Hello @JimReynolds, I haven't seen you here for a while. How are you?
15:14
He is well, judging by his Facebook feed
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. I think it's okay.
@CowperKettle Phew! -- I suppose it's not as serious as entering data in newtons when a rocket's software expects pounds!
@snailplane nods
\o, Snails! Good evening! I'll go and try fixing the front wheel hub.. it jiggles
And they promise a(?) beautiful weather tomorrow
It's called "play" or "wiggle" really (just found it)
15:19
A wiggling wheel could have you a tingling feeling. :P
It really does not feel like wiggling
Hmm... wobbling, perhaps?
A bicycle enthusiast I struck up an aquiantance with a week ago volunteered to do some minor adjustment on the wheel, and noticed that it wiggles.
I would have never known.
Oohhh! That's very cool!
Then I went to the repairs shop, and they told me that the wheel is "almost unscrewed" at the hub. So I bought a couple of cone wrenches and some grease.
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Anonymous
15:22
Good morning! :-)
(^_^)/
Anonymous
@CowperKettle It's really very difficult to construe weather as countable.
@snailplane Hello. :)
Anonymous
It's not impossible, but in your example it would be quite odd.
15:23
They plan to ride upon a hill tomorrow, and with the sunny weather it will be so beautiful - the golden trees.
@snailplane Thank you!
That aside if we consider usually as the clause modifier it means you can put it let's say at the beginning of the clause without changing the meaning which again I believe is problematic. Usually in stories, a witch ...' can mean 'rarely in real world, a witch...' based on this type of understanding I think it's not a sentence adverb. Otherwise we can think of almost all adverbs as sentence adverbs. Example, he does his homework carefully is the same as carefully, he does his homework I can claim in both carefully is a sentence adverb based on the logic you proposed. — Yuri 11 hours ago
@CowperKettle Probably the null article: promise beautiful weather.
Anonymous
I don't believe in a null article or a zero article. I'd just say there's no article. :-)
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@Man_From_India I think it's much simpler if we think of a sentence modifier or a clause modifier as the same thing.
Hi folk
good evenng
15:31
Evening!
Paeez came and days are getting short.
Anonymous
Chesterman and Master distinguish zero from null, saying zero article with non-count and plural NPs (milk, eggs) and null article with some singular count and proper NPs (lunch, London).
> his words set off a ------------ of excitement within her. Hobby of the evening
@Cardinal What's Paeez?
Fill the gap
Anonymous
15:32
The reason they use two names and distinguish them is because they have different grammatical properties, and because the former is indefinite while the latter is definite.
@DamkerngT. right. Actually I think it's same. Bas Aarts just used both the terms.
@DamkerngT. It's a Persian terms which means "autumn"
@Cardinal Ah, thanks! I see.
Anonymous
So @Lawrence, the zero–null distinction you make is not necessarily the same distinction that linguists use.
gush or rush, perhaps.
15:33
@snailplane :)
In OMEG he used CLAUSE ADVERB and in Syntax and Argumentation he used SENTENCE ADVERB.
Anonymous
I don't normally distinguish the two myself, although I think you have a potentially useful distinction there, and I don't have any problem with your terminology as long as you make it clear what you mean, as you did earlier :-)
@Man_From_India Oh, that's really interesting!
@DamkerngT. Hmm, yes, but my intended word is something else.
The answer is
ripple
@snailplane That's ok, my research group at uni was working with Logic (computing). Linguistics is a bit of a stretch for me anyway. :)
15:35
Oh! Yes, I think ripple would work, too.
@DamkerngT. Sure.
@Lawrence For some reason, uni for university sounds weird to me.
Anonymous
@Lawrence Linguistics is a bit of a wild west, at the moment. It needs to become a more mature field with more established ideas and agreed upon terminology, but it's not there yet.
@snailplane Yeah, I haven't really thought through the jargon. It was the difference in the concepts that clicked right away.
I think it's something to do with my first language. (University is a rather long word, มหาวิทยาลัย, read "ma-ha-wit-ta-ya-lai".)
Anonymous
15:37
@DamkerngT. Might be due to the dialect(s) you've acquired. I think uni is more common in BrE.
Anonymous
Oh, I see.
Anonymous
Uni sounds natural to me, though, and I'm an AmE speaker.
Naturally, people shorten it, usually as มหาลัย (read "ma-lai").
@DamkerngT. I'll go with what @snailplane said. :)
@Lawrence I didn't mean that the word is wrong. It just gives me a weird feeling. :D
15:39
@DamkerngT. Might be something you ate? :P
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. 違和感 :-)
BTW, "ma-lai" could be heard as หมาลัย? [dog-what?]. :-)
Anonymous
Research group at dog-what.
@CowperKettle I see.
@snailplane LOL -- Thanks for the word, BTW. :D
15:42
@snailplane Wait, what?
Anonymous
Ooh, Dog U!
Anonymous
@Cardinal Politics is depressing this year.
@snailplane I don't think they offer postgrad courses, though. :)
15:43
Source:Facebook, dammit, I forgot name of the page.
Anonymous
@Lawrence Well, someone oughta start a petition.
Anonymous
I'm sure there are plenty of graduates from Burger University who'd love to do post-grad at Dog U.
@snailplane They'd be pretty hot dogs.
Anonymous
15:44
I grew up near that place. It was a running joke in my hometown :-)
@snailplane nods
Anonymous
:-)
@snailplane The burger in the "Career Search" button looks a bit like a monster! :)
Anonymous
Seems appropriate.
Anonymous
I know I'd run away from a McDonald's burger.
15:46
Haha!
@DamkerngT. An alligator, perhaps. I'm not going to be so crass as to suggest the alternate. :P
Hmm... they have some kind of "roll", too. I've never tried that. I didn't even know it existed.
@Lawrence Okay, alligator it is! :D
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. The wrap?
@snailplane Yes. It looks like a roll to me.
Anonymous
I would call it a wrap. :-)
Anonymous
15:47
A wrap is a type of sandwich alternative made with a soft flatbread rolled around a filling. The usual flatbreads are wheat-flour tortillas, lavash, or pita; the filling usually consists of cold sliced meat, poultry, or fish accompanied by shredded lettuce, diced tomato or pico de gallo, guacamole, sauteed mushrooms, bacon, grilled onions, cheese, and a sauce, such as ranch or honey mustard. == History == Mexicans, Armenians, Mid Easterners, Greeks and Turks have been eating wraps since before the 1900s. Mexicans refer to them as burritos, and they come in different ingredient varieties, such...
A-ha!
Ahh -- Never tried that indeed!
Anonymous
Some of these images look a bit like the McD's one.
@snailplane Wrap sounds a lot more appetising than burrito to me.
Anonymous
15:49
When I make wraps, I like to use romaine leaves instead of flatbread.
I'm more familiar with spring rolls. (BTW -- Yay, I learned something!)
Anonymous
@Lawrence Same. :-)
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. Ooh, I love spring rolls :-)
Me too!
Anonymous
15:50
We have "egg rolls" here.
@snailplane Just googled it. Crunchy! It's fun food.
Must be Japanese ones.
Anonymous
Oh, no, we call them egg rolls here, but they'd be 春卷 in China.
@snailplane Egg rolls here, too! :P
Oh, the fried one!
15:51
@snailplane Are you conversant with Chinese as well as Japanese?
Anonymous
I only know a little Chinese :-)
@snailplane Such modesty. :)
@snailplane Literally, spring rolls.
Interesting that it's called "egg roll" when it has no egg. Maybe the color.
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. My Thai friend I mention sometimes likes to make egg rolls. :-)
Anonymous
I don't know why it's called an egg roll.
15:56
@snailplane I used to like egg rolls, too, but lately I find it's a bit too oily.
Anonymous
I don't eat them very often.
Anonymous
When my friend makes them, they have lots of cabbage. :-)
But it sure is delicious! :D
@snailplane Ah, I like it that way, too!
@DamkerngT. Maybe in the wrap ('pastry')?
@DamkerngT. The soft ones shouldn't be oily.
@Lawrence I'm not sure if they use egg to make the wrap. Maybe, they use it, but I'm not very sure.
@Lawrence Exactly! That's why I like it better at the moment. :D
16:00
@DamkerngT. I've seen the clear Vietnamese rolls. I don't think there's any egg in those. But the more doughy and opaque Chinese ones might include eggs as an ingredient.
Come to think of it, I haven't seen the dough for egg rolls before they're fried.
Maybe it's similar to egg noodles.
Egg roll is a term used for many different foods around the world. == Terminology == The term egg roll is commonly used in English speaking countries to refer to variations of fried foods involving filling wrapped in flat bread. The dish is considered a subtype of the spring roll in mainland China, with the Chinese term meaning egg roll referring to the biscuit roll instead. Egg rolls are considered distinct from spring rolls outside of mainland China. == Varieties == In Vietnamese cuisine an egg roll is a savory dish typically served as an appetizer similar in concept to what is commonly known...
@DamkerngT. I'm getting hungry. :)
Hehe!
You know what? Me too! :D
I invite all to Kolkata to have egg roll and other authentic North Indian dishes. I bet you would love them.
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:-)
Starred that!
16:03
And do come :-)
@Man_From_India The Indian pratha (spelling?) is delicious with curry 'dips'.
I guess I'll go find something to eat. :D -- BBL o/
I'm heading off too. Bye!
:-)
I'm having dinner. Healthy non oily stuffs. Only talks of Paranthas, butters, egg rolls :(
@DamkerngT. @snailplane @Man_From_India Hi! I have some questions of sporting errors
16:15
Hi @user62015
@Man_From_India @DamkerngT. @snailplane What is wrong this this ((A) Today I / (B) shall dine / (C) at my uncle’s house. / D) no error)?
No error?
Option C
I don't understand any error there?
Any explanation?
No.
I did not understand.
Anonymous
16:31
@user62015 I don't see any error in at my uncle's house.
@snailplane I agree that's why I got confused.
@snailplane Next question: (A) His / (B) wages / (C) is low. / (D) no error
are instead of is?
Anonymous
16:44
Right :-)
Thanks @snailplane
@snailplane (A) He / (B) needs / (C) two pairs of shoes. / (D) no error
Anonymous
What do you think?
17:07
@Man_From_India I starred this message, just in case I decide to travel to India. (0:
I would travel to Delhi, but Kolkatta must be just a day on a train away.
@user62015 Where do you think an error might be?
Answer says option C but I don't think so.
@user62015 That's odd.
Is it "two pair of shoes"? O_O
@snailplane Answer says option C but I don't think so.
two pairs is also fine?
I have pasted from the sheet
I think "two pairs" is okay
> I had, indeed, gotten two pair of shoes now, which I took off the feet of the two drowned men whom 1 saw in the wreck (Robinson Crusoe)
@CowperKettle So what do you think? Where is the error?
17:13
@user62015 I think there is no error
Yes. I agree. @CowperKettle
@user62015 What is the book you're using? Who is/are the author(s)?
It is an old exam paper. One more question (A) There / (B) is / (C) no place in your compartment. / (D) no error
I think answer should be no other place, what do you think? @CowperKettle
@user62015 I would say "no free space" or something.. I'm not sure
@CowperKettle Thanks.
17:15
@CowperKettle I guess they wrote it before 1840. :)
@DamkerngT. (0:
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Q: "Three pair" vs. "three pairs"

user2378Which one is more grammatically correct: "three pairs of shoes" or "three pair of shoes"?

@CowperKettle Thanks
> I had, indeed, gotten two pair of shoes now, which I took off of the feet of the two drowned men whom I saw in the wreck; and I found two pair more in one of the chests, which were very welcome to me; but they were not like our English shoes, either for ease or service, being rather what we call pumps than shoes. (Robinson Crusoe)
An interesting usage note at Dictionary.com.
But I don't know if it's legit. I don't know who curates Dictionary.com.
@DamkerngT. Two pair of supercomputers.
17:24
:D
@user62015 room is another viable alternative.
@DamkerngT. Hi I agree
Probably the last one.
17:31
But I guess all are in use!
Anonymous
17:43
@user62015 I agree with you. In fact, I prefer pairs.
Anonymous
We always say two pair if we're talking about card games :-)
Anonymous
For shoes, both pair and pairs seem okay to me.
@DamkerngT. They look like flat pastry sheets. Not as thick as egg noodles. Google "Wonton wrappers"
Anonymous
@CowperKettle People tend not to capitalize it. Of course, it tends to be something people write on the internet.
Anonymous
It's not a phrase I'd ever use.
Anonymous
17:46
In print, you might capitalize Nazi.
Anonymous
But it won't appear particularly often in print.
@LawrenceC The ingredients look similar, I think. Basically flour and egg.
Anonymous
Mainly in transcriptions of spontaneous speech, I imagine. And maybe in a poorly written op-ed.
Anonymous
@CowperKettle Only two occurrences in COCA, both have Nazi capitalized. In Google Books, they tend to be all over the place, mostly in low quality publications, but still Nazi tends to be capitalized.
Anonymous
Grammar is occasionally capitalized too, but not consistently.
Anonymous
17:51
And if you search online, you'll find all sorts of capitalization used for the phrase :-)
While we're at wontons and noodles ...
Hmm... yummy!
Anonymous
Ooh, pretty.
:D
I usually ask for a couple extra wontons when I order this dish. :D
Hmm... I ran into a new word today, but now I can't recall it!
Anonymous
18:15
@DamkerngT. Let's go with fictive for WOTD then :-)
Anonymous
Word of the day: fictive
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Nice! :-)
Anonymous
Fictive kinship is a term used by anthropologists and ethnographers to describe forms of kinship or social ties that are based on neither consanguinal (blood ties) nor affinal ("by marriage") ties, in contrast to true kinship ties. To the extent that consanguinal and affinal kinship ties might be considered real or true kinship, the term fictive kinship has in the past been used to refer to those kinship ties that are fictive, in the sense of not-real. Invoking the concept as a cross-culturally valid anthropological category therefore rests on the presumption that the inverse category of "(true...
I guess brothers by a blood oath would count as fiction kinship. :)
> His brash style and megalomania also make him enemies.
That plural sounds tricky, but my intuition says that is very correct!
 
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Word of the Day: procrustean
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