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4:44 AM

> At 600KM above planet Earth the temperature fluctuates between +258 and -148 degrees Fahrenheit. There is nothing to carry sound. No air pressure. No oxygen. Life in space is impossible.

> --Gravity

I found it a little strange to use km, and then Fahrenheit.

Damkerng T.

6:05 AM

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Q: Can we use the abbreviation "etc" without a period/full stop?

Throughout Practical English Usage 3rd Edition (Swan, 2005), the author writes etc in a manner I can't help but wonder if it's a typo. Much/far/a lot etc more money Many/far/a lot etc more opportunities Throughout the book, he does not put a period (full stop) after "etc" and h...

An interesting question on ELU.

It's just a mistake in the book. It's that simple. It's either a flat-out typo, or, just poorly thought-out. Further, there are repost above that the book varies throughout - which is plain pathetic. Many books are poorly written and poorly put together. This appears to be such a book. Et cetera (I'm sure you realise that is what it is short for) is frickin' et cetera. Of course you should use an abbreviation period. And again there's zero excuse for having "mixed" variations in the one book. — Joe Blow Aug 6 '14 at 15:58

An interesting opinion on ELU.

> Like a lot of BE writers I only use a punctuation mark after etc if the context demands it (which is why I didn't use one just then).
Rover
http://forum.wordreference.com/threads/position-of-full-stop-after-etc-when-followed-by-ref-no.2625263/#post-13240718

An interesting opinion elsewhere.

> I'm with Rover: I don't use a full stop after etc, ie, eg and so on. I'd simply leave it out if I were you, NIGI.
But, as is clear from this thread (and others we've had on the same topic) even those who do use a full stop/period with etc don't double the full stop at the end of a sentence:).
http://forum.wordreference.com/threads/position-of-full-stop-after-etc-when-followed-by-ref-no.2625263/#post-13240769

Another interesting opinion elsewhere.

Anonymous

10:02 AM

I like the convention of writing abbreviations like etc or et al without periods

Ahmad

Hi

Anonymous

I think it's more common in BrE than AmE

Ahmad

@snailboat Hi

Anonymous

It can't be called a mistake, though, when so many educated native speakers do it on purpose

Anonymous

Hello

Ahmad

10:04 AM

Its intersting, with whom are you talking? I see no one here!

Anonymous

It's not necessary that someone be here

Anonymous

I was responding to the messages directly above mine

Ahmad

I have a question

could I ask?

Anonymous

Please feel free to ask questions without asking permission first

Ahmad

I wrote "The underlying assumption is that the web designers utilize visual cues such as horizontal or vertical lines, colored panels, boxes, special fonts or background images, to discriminate different regions of a web page. "

I don't know if "web designers" need "the"? just with "the" it is read better!

Anonymous

10:06 AM

As usual, this question depends on context

Damkerng T.

Hello, @snailboat!

Anonymous

Have you previously introduced a set of specific web designers to the conversation? If so, use the here to let the reader know you're referring to the same set

Damkerng T.

Hello, @Ahmad! I guess that you wouldn't need the the in your context. Though I don't really know your context.

Ahmad

No, it is the first sentence about them

Anonymous

Are you referring to web designers in general? If so, don't use the

Ahmad

10:08 AM

@DamkerngT. Hi, yeah you are right

just don't know why "underliying assumption is that web designers..." is a bit awkward? isn't it?

Anonymous

When you use the, it's a sign to the reader that you think they can identify what the noun phrase refers to as specifically as is relevant in that context (often to one unique referent)

Anonymous

I don't see any reason to call it awkward

Ahmad

right, then I was in mistake

Damkerng T.

In that context, the web designers is actually more awkward.

I found a good link for articles a while ago. Let me see if I can find it again.

Ahmad

Another question consider "Figure 1. shows a web page containing the search results for a product. In such pages, there is usually the phrase Search Results" or the pattern number + `results'" somewhere above a list of items. "

Is it "In such pages" or "on such pages"?!

Anonymous

10:12 AM

Good question!

Ahmad

So? what is the answer?!

Anonymous

I'm not sure

Anonymous

I can imagine both

Damkerng T.

When snailboat says "Good question!", it usually means, a) there are more than one possible answer, depending on which point of view you want to take, and/or b) it could be a good idea to ask that on the main site. ;-)

Anonymous

Traditionally it would be on due to the page metaphor

Anonymous

10:16 AM

But maybe in is a better choice here

Anonymous

Anyway, what Damkerng said :-)

Ahmad

Great! then I may ask it on website, how about this "First, the user loads a sample page of a website into an embedded web browser in the system. "

Do I need "in the system"?

Damkerng T.

Is the system your system, the one your paper talks about?

Ahmad

Yes my system

Damkerng T.

I can see of/in the system possible.

Ahmad

10:20 AM

I think for applications and software we use "in"

Damkerng T.

I'm not quite sure how an embedded browser works in your system.

Ahmad

thanks, sorry for lot of questions, I asked this question about this sentence "After selecting an element, a pop-up allows for creating an anchor based on the element's features. As can be seen from Figure 3, in addition to the element's content, one may utilize stable and semantic labels used for specific tag's attributes [to specify an anchor], such as id and class name (e.g. "main" value for the main division of a page)."

Do I need "to specify an anchor"?

if yes, how can I mention "such as" after it?

Damkerng T.

I think you don't really need it, but without it, it may not be very clear that the labels are used to specify an anchor.

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. Good morning!

Damkerng T.

Ohayou!

Anonymous

10:25 AM

おはよう＾＾

Ahmad

@DamkerngT. does ommiting it make the sentence ungramattical? how about the "such as" part? can It make an independent sentence?

or a clause that comes after another clause? because it has no verb !

Damkerng T.

@Ahmad Such as id and class name looks fine to me. You can also rephrase your last part as used to specify an anchor for specific tag's attributes before such as.

I think sometimes writing a document is quite like writing code. At some point, after revision after revision, we may need to take a step back and rewrite the whole sentence or paragraph.

Ahmad

@DamkerngT. sorry, I don't get your suggestion. All things I write may be used to specify an anchor not just attributes

Damkerng T.

Hmm... are the labels used for specifying both an anchor and attributes?

See, it's hard to suggest something perfect because I don't know about your system as much as you do.

Ahmad

I may write it as " in addition to the element's content, one may utilize stable and semantic labels of specific tag's attributes [to specify an anchor], such as id and class name (e.g. "main" value for the main division of a page).

@DamkerngT. labels are label of the attributes

Damkerng T.

10:35 AM

What is the part in addition to for?

Ahmad

Here again ID and CLASSNAME are examples of attributes and "MAIN" example of a label

Damkerng T.

In addition to the labels, or in addition to an anchor?

Ahmad

In addition to the element's content

Damkerng T.

Scratch that. Is it "Labels in addition to the element's content" or is it "An anchor in addition to the element's content"?

Ahmad

a tag in html is like this <tag id="main" class="mainClass"> Here is content </tag>

Content and attributes are used to make the element an anchor

to specify it

Damkerng T.

10:38 AM

@Ahmad I like this kind of sentence.

(Though I'm not sure what "element" is in your context.)

> One may specify an anchor by utilizing, in addition to the element's content, stable and semantic labels of specific tag's attributes such as id and classname.

(I think The user is better than One, but it's up to you.)

Ahmad

Thank you

Damkerng T.

(Also consider specifying in the place of utilizing. Oh, that's not quite right! We already used specify.)

Welcome!

Ahmad

I must go, see you, thank you again

Damkerng T.

See you!

> Is it safe for me to drink 2 litres of alcohol in a half hour?

I remember that someone died from having too much water in a short period of time.

I can't remember how much water he had. (He was forced to drink all that as a punishment.)

(It's clear that sergeant trainers don't know everything.)

Talking about unfortunate names, how about someone named "Loser Lane"?

housetohouse.com/HTHPubPage.aspx?cid=14368

StoneyB

11:53 AM

@DamkerngT. Or this one: [en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ima_Hogg]

Anonymous

12:15 PM

@DamkerngT. Oh, yes, drinking too much water can be very dangerous! Although it takes a lot of water to reach that level.

Anonymous

I remember one story in the news a few years ago . . .

Anonymous

A radio station had a contest where people drank as much water as they could without going to the bathroom

Anonymous

sfgate.com/bayarea/nevius/article/…

Damkerng T.

@snailboat I just checked some news archive websites, it appears to be 8 years ago, and the amount was 20 liters.

@snailboat Hah!

Anonymous

It's very sad, though.

Damkerng T.

12:22 PM

nods

Anonymous

People assume that drinking water is safe.

Anonymous

Which, you know, it usually is. But anything in excess can be dangerous!

Damkerng T.

How much is 2 gallons of water?

Ahh... about 7.5 liters.

Anonymous

It's actually a popular myth in the United States that you have to drink as much as 2 liters of water each day to stay healthy.

Damkerng T.

It's the same here!

I don't know where the number 2 liters came from.

Anonymous

12:26 PM

There was a recommendation in 1945

Anonymous

bmj.com/content/335/7633/1288

Anonymous

> One origin may be a 1945 recommendation that stated: A suitable allowance of water for adults is 2.5 litres daily in most instances. An ordinary standard for diverse persons is 1 millilitre for each calorie of food. Most of this quantity is contained in prepared foods. If the last, crucial sentence is ignored, the statement could be interpreted as instruction to drink eight glasses of water a day.

Anonymous

Most food we eat contains lots of water.

Damkerng T.

Unless we eat dried noodles.

I guess a lot of people probably do that sometimes. :P

Anonymous

It's true that you can eat food that contains no water, and in that case, most people will immediately feel the urge to drink water

Anonymous

12:27 PM

Particularly if it contains salt

Anonymous

I think this sort of discussion can go in the ELL Cabin

jimsug

Oh, it's there.

Actually, let me get rid of it.

Anonymous

Oh, cross-posted :-)

Anonymous

I see

jimsug

I guess if I were thorough I'd have edited them first :P

Anonymous

12:36 PM

More on 2 to 2.5L of water a day: ajpregu.physiology.org/content/283/5/R993

Damkerng T.

1:01 PM

@snailboat BTW, Amazon Japan has sent a book to replace the 2nd copy of MLA Handbook. (Yay!)

I also asked them:

> I'd like to send the incorrectly delivered book back to you (or Amazon) when I receive the correct one. What is the best way to do so without costing me the shipment cost?

Still waiting for a reply. :D

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Q: Is "update" transitive or intransitive?

According to many dictionaries including merriam-webster, update is a transitive verb. So I expect the following sentence (used in Firefox) to be incorrect: Please wait while Firefox is updating. I think Firefox is the object of this sentence and it should have been used like this: Plea...

transitive-verbs

> According to many dictionaries including merriam-webster, update is a transitive verb.

But!

> update [intransitive/transitive] to add the most recent information to something such as a book, document, or list

Thank you, Macmillan!

Ahmad

1:21 PM

Hi @DamkerngT.

Damkerng T.

Hi!

Ahmad

I wrote "After specifying anchors, the user must specify the patterns by which a region on the page is distinguished using one or a group of anchors (see Figure 4)."

Actually patterns is created using one or group of anchors

does the sentence convey that?

Damkerng T.

Not in the best possible way, imho, but yes, I think it conveys that.

Ahmad

How could I paraphrase it so it be clear?

Damkerng T.

Using more simple sentences would be one possible way.

Ahmad

1:25 PM

Could you show how?

Damkerng T.

Let's see... you have several ideas in that sentence:

a) After specifying anchors

b) the user must specify the pattern

c) a region on the page is distinguished by the patterns

d) [the user must specify the pattern] using one or a group of anchors

Ahmad

right

Damkerng T.

So this is one possible rewrite:

> After specifying anchors, the user must specify the patterns using one anchor or a group of anchors. Such patterns are used to distinguish a region on the page.

(I can't be very precise because I don't know the details in your system precisely.)

Oh, wait. You used the patterns.

Ahmad

Yes the user should first know the patterns that distinguish....

Damkerng T.

In most technical documentations, it's best to write straightforwardly: [ We have this, and this, and this, and this. In this, there are this and this. In this, there is this. This manages this and this. ... ] or [ In this module, the system does this, this and this. There are three sub modules: X, Y, and Z. X does this, for the purpose of this. Y does this. Z, together with Y, does this. ]

Anonymous

1:36 PM

I'd like to add that maybe update used to be a transitive-only verb, but as the use "some program is updating" is now kind of established... why not change the status of update... transitivity is a de not a prescription — Emanuel Apr 27 '12 at 19:32

Anonymous

This is a very exciting example of right node raising!

Anonymous

There are very few verbs in English which are always transitive.

Damkerng T.

^BTW, I meant in most technical documents.

Ahmad

@DamkerngT. thanks for advice

I think I should use patterns in another sentence

Damkerng T.

@Ahmad I remember I've seen a book (and probably dabbed into it a little) about simple sentences on Amazon. It looks like a great book.

Ahmad

1:41 PM

@DamkerngT. for example maybe"After specifying anchors, the user must specify how a region on the page is distinguished by using one or a group of anchors (see Figure 4)."

@DamkerngT. great, do you know its name?

Damkerng T.

@Ahmad Hey, that's quite good. ;-)

@Ahmad I'm trying to find it. :D

Ahmad

@DamkerngT. yeah and then to continue "To do this, the user must introduce patterns ...

Damkerng T.

amazon.com/Several-Short-Sentences-About-Writing/dp/0307279413

Ahmad

Just I must leave, you can put the link if I found it

Thank you, I got the link

see you next time

Damkerng T.

See you around!

Damkerng T.

2:41 PM

Hey, this is cool!

spectrum.ieee.org/cars-that-think/transportation/advanced-cars/…

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Oooooh "will".

No one knows when "will" is.

Damkerng T.

> It’s to begin later this year, and if it proves out, the government says it will proceed with tests on actual roads.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Riiight, it's not like constructing Iranian roads.

Damkerng T.

3:02 PM

Note to self: if you want to test someone who claims they can speak Thai in a chat, you can try this: ตอนนั้นอยู่แถวไหนครับ. Google Translate fails to understand this very simple sentence.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

I can speak Thai in a chat.

Damkerng T.

ตอนนั้นอยู่แถวไหนครับ

:D

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Hah!

translate.google.com/#fa/en/…

Hmm, "it is what it is" is wrong?

Damkerng T.

Very wrong! :D

Couldn't be more wrong, actually. :P

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

In that case, ตอนนั้นอยู่แถวไหนครับ to you too.

Damkerng T.

3:05 PM

LOL

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. One time I got a broken CD from Amazon and had to exchange it. What they did is send me a new one, along with some packaging to send the broken one back postage-paid. Then they said I had a few weeks to send it back before they decided I was keeping it and charged me for the second one :-)

Damkerng T.

@snailboat Hah!

Actually I was hoping that they will send me prepaid envelope or something, but there is no such thing in my replacement delivery.

Anonymous

Oh no!

Damkerng T.

I hope they won't charge me for the 2nd copy of MLA Handbook!

Anonymous

Well, I'm sure Amazon Japan is different.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

3:08 PM

Less like a jungle.

Damkerng T.

@snailboat I wasn't sure until most of the pending orders were cleared.

There is still one pending book; not sure when I will get it.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

1

Q: "came" or "comes" in the "when" block of the future perfect continuous in the past

In some Russian book about the English grammar I have read the example of the sentence for the future perfect continuous in the past: I said that I should have been writing a letter for an hour when he came. In my opinion the word "comes" must be instead of "came" at this case. But another...

grammar tense

> But another Russian man told me the sentence is incorrect completely...

@Copper was that you?

:\ He's not pingable.

Damkerng T.

Ah, I just got an email!

> Thank you for choosing [________]

This is to confirm that a replacement was sent on August 25th from our warehouse in the UK. As we use international standard delivery services, your item will arrive between 7 and 21 days.？(As it is standard delivery there is no tracking number, and it will be delivered by your local Postal Service.) Please let us know if there is any delay or if you receive any damaged items. There is no need to return the items you incorrectly received. Should you have any further questions, please let us know.

Anonymous

If you're going to label a construction Future Perfect Continuous in the Past, shouldn't it be would have been V-ing?

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. Yay!

Damkerng T.

3:11 PM

(I think I should try to avoid thinking of mail as countable.)

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. I think mail is often countable in reference to individual email messages.

Anonymous

But I don't think that mail is usually countable in reference to letters or packages that are sent via postal mail.

Damkerng T.

@snailboat It's kinda confusing because I still have both kinds of mail!

Anonymous

> I sent him a mail yesterday. (OK if I mean an email, NOT OK if I mean a physical letter)

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@Ruchir but please note that this was only misunderstanding, misinterpretation and rudeness from his side. I agree that the SE platform is hard to understand but this gives no excuse to behave that way. No one was being arrogant to him. To the OP, we'd be more than happy to address your concerns; in case they're constructively pointed out. The very title of this post is a rant. Rants don't usually turn out well. — inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M 2 hours ago

Guys let me know if I should delete this comment.

Anonymous

3:14 PM

If I'm referring to an individual piece of postal mail, I'll generally say a letter or a package depending on what its physical shape is.

Anonymous

In reference to email, I don't use either of those terms.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

I've not sent or received more than three mails in my life.

Anonymous

That will presumably change at some point.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

However, my hotmail/gmail/yahoo inboxes are full.

Anonymous

I mean, it might not.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

3:16 PM

. . . of SE newsletters. O.o From sites that I'm already active in. Double O.o

Anonymous

But if you ever work for a corporation, you'll probably end up using email to some extent.

Anonymous

I use it for various things. Last time I sent an email was this morning. It was about my colo.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@snailboat I think we're at a point where no one knows how much further technology will modify communication mediums.

A lot of this was unimaginable when you were my age, I think.

Anonymous

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Well, it's unlikely email will be gone in ten years.

Anonymous

Most of the changes in online communication have been relatively small since the 90s.

Anonymous

3:18 PM

Shifts back and forth between walled communities and open ones.

Anonymous

Facebook is what AOL was some years back.

Damkerng T.

I still call emails letters sometimes!

Anonymous

That is rather old-fashioned.

Anonymous

But you can do it :-)

Damkerng T.

Or, e-cat! :P

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

3:19 PM

A time span of 10 or twenty years is really small in comparison to many things.

Damkerng T.

Cat in Thai is pronounced "maew", so we sometimes call email emaew just for fun. :D

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. Oh, that's cute!

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Nice!

Hmm, I'm kinda in a good mood today.

Maybe I should go and answer something on ELL. O.o

Damkerng T.

@snailboat I still hear people mention AOL sometimes, probably in a postmortem context.

Anonymous

AOL is still around.

Anonymous

3:22 PM

They aren't what they once were, though.

Anonymous

I'd be happy if Facebook weren't around in 20 years, but it will probably be here in zombie form, all the same.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@DamkerngT. Or when mentioning why Microsoft sucks.

Damkerng T.

I wonder what's next.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Bookface.

Anonymous

Well, there are huge numbers of overlapping communities springing up, then dying slowly or quickly

Anonymous

3:23 PM

You can't exactly put them in order

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

I think we're getting closer and closer to image and video sharing revolution.

Anonymous

But there are many new communities that have already taken over from Facebook in some capacity

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Instagram and Telegram are the latest trending among my friends.

Damkerng T.

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Oh, yes. Videos. Probably 3D.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Me, not so much.

Anonymous

3:24 PM

Most of the old online communications media are still around

Anonymous

USENET, for example.

Damkerng T.

Ahh... I haven't used it for years.

Anonymous

I still do. It's dying, but it's dying very, very slowly.

Anonymous

And has been for years.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

> How dare they are!

I wonder what error leads to this sentence.

Anonymous

3:26 PM

Maybe a reanalysis of dare as a adjective (cf. "How flippant they are!") or a syntactic blend

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Do they take "dare" as an adjective? Or maybe it's just a mis-imitation of the construction?

Anonymous

A syntactic blend is a class of error in which two different constructions are accidentally blended together

Anonymous

Oops, yes, I meant 'adjective', not 'noun' :-)

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Hmm, now I need to find an analysis on where syntactic blend is most common.

Damkerng T.

Maybe a learner mistook dare for brave?

Anonymous

3:28 PM

These blends often happen because we start out saying one thing, but change our minds partway through and end up saying another.

Anonymous

They might have forgotten -ing.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@DamkerngT. Definitely not, judging by the context.

"Brave" has a positive connotation.

Anonymous

Anyway, there are a lot of possible ways that error could result, and I can only make guesses. I don't really know.

Anonymous

There are people who study the types of errors speakers make.

Damkerng T.

@snailboat There may be a good term for that!

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

3:30 PM

BTW @Snail @Dam have you seen my answer to "let's be careful with closing" thingy?

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. For what in particular?

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@DamkerngT. Errorology.

Damkerng T.

For something similar to the idea of "errorology"!

(I've heard "swimology" before, BTW!)

Anonymous

Oh! I don't know a term for that in particular.

Anonymous

If I had to describe it I would use a phrase.

Anonymous

3:31 PM

Something like "the study of speech errors"?

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

I successfully made data agree with what I had in mind in my meta answer.

@snailboat Or "the study of learner errors" or anything like that.

Hey should I write an ELL question?

Anonymous

Oh, it's true. We should talk about errors made by L1 and L2 speakers separately

Araucaria

Hi all

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Hullo @Arau!

Damkerng T.

@snailboat nods -- Or @inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M's suggestion.

Hi, @Araucaria!

Araucaria

3:33 PM

anyone know who got removed today?

Anonymous

I do not

Araucaria

Hi Dam

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Removed from?

Damkerng T.

Perhaps you meant suspended?

Araucaria

Got -30 rep "user was removed". Of course might mean left. Usually does ...

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

3:35 PM

That's just three upvotes.

I don't think they were someone we could guess or know.

Araucaria

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Yes, not worried about the rep. Never am for that, but always am interested who. That's 30 for me, but might be "someone",especially if a new "someone" ...

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

I'm always curious about that too.

These things I mean, in general.

BTW @Arau regarding my viewpoint on closing, my most recent meta Q represents some of it.

Araucaria

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Erm, don't want to sound cynical, but was your latest meta part of an election campaign?

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Nope.

Araucaria

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Timing .... haha

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

3:40 PM

No matter I become a mod or not, I'll continue with this.

Araucaria

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Good

That "timing" was meant to come before your "nope".

Timing in chat

permanent problem. Along with not being able to edit your comments enough

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@Arau you can edit your chat messages.

And you can reply to others' messages. :)

@Araucaria What do you mean?

Anonymous

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M I think you can edit chat messages for two minutes and comments for five.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Yep.

Araucaria

4:08 PM

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Exactly what Snail said. It takes me five minutes to evaluate my messages

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Hmm.

Araucaria

especially cuz i don't normally know what I'm going to write before it gets written!

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

:)

Araucaria

Timing's a problem because you don't know what's being written while you're writing and then you don't know what your comment will look like a comment about ....

or what it'll look like you should have taken into account before you posted your message ..

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Aha. Well I'm currently dealing with a troll and my crappy windows 8, so I'm a bit distracted.

Araucaria

4:12 PM

What troll?

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Hullo @Adam! I think @Dam-s not around to give you access, please visit ELL's Cabin for discussion.

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Q: Is it rude to call a girl " chick"

Is it rude to call a girl "chick", does it mean beautiful or young or both? I think young girls can be chick but adult people cannot. Where I live black community people call each other a "chick" but if a white man says to a black girl "hey chick" it is considered to be very naughty.

word-choice

Araucaria

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Was that your question?

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Of course not.

Araucaria

How come your name's on it?

Why don't you just flag it or speak to J.R.?

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Duplicate usernames are possible in SE.

Araucaria

4:18 PM

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Yes, ok. But that's obviously just a blatant trollism. When things are icensed by SE it doesn't mean they're licenced for the sake of abusing other users ...

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@Arau let's continue this discussion in ELL's cabin, Adam is asking me the same questions.

Araucaria

And it doesn't mean that .... ok

Damkerng T.

5:27 PM

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Q: If somebody call you "Hello Trouble", what does it mean?

What does it exactly mean if somebody calls you "Hello Trouble"?